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Q1: Why is this article titled "Chinese" New Year?
A1: This article covers celebrations of the Spring Festival in Chinese culture specifically, commonly known in English as the Chinese New Year. Celebrations of the Spring Festival or similar holidays in other cultures are covered in their own articles (e.g. Japanese New Year, Korean New Year, Tết Nguyên Đán) or more broadly in the article Lunar New Year.
This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.
Chinese New Year was a good article, but it was removed from the list as it no longer met the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.
Review: August 14, 2006. (Reviewed version).
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@CentreLeftRight: in places such as Singapore and Malaysia, which are in Southeast Asia and has significant Chinese cultural influence and an overseas diaspora, it is very much called "Chinese New Year". Another example would also be for Indonesia. The citation for Okinawa, which was added by me and not by an anonymous user, explained that the continued celebration on the island was directly influenced by the one from China due to its history as the Ryukyu kingdom, and not something slightly distinct like the variants on Lunar New Year. In essence, the term "Chinese New Year" is officially used outside of China, especially in Southeast Asia, and is not a strictly "Chinese" holiday as only in China itself. Razali Osman (talk) 22:51, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Razali Osman: I reevaluated my edits and I am certain you will be in agreement with the (new) changes I kept (compare). I addressed the problems you pointed out and the rest of the edit (I made) should be obvious maintenance / grammatical corrections. If you want me to clarify for a specific part of it, leave me a reply. CentreLeftRight✉ 23:00, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@CentreLeftRight: Seems fine by me. It's just that in these countries/regions, it specifically refers to and is based on the same Chinese calendar, no different to China itself. This is why it wouldn't be exactly accurate to assume that these celebrations are Lunar New Year or something else (like how's it celebrated in Korea or Vietnam), and not Chinese New Year, hence why they should be reflected here just as prominently. Razali Osman (talk) 23:08, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Razali Osman: I did not read carefully enough the material I removed the first time, which caused a misunderstanding as my intention was the same as your explanation above. CentreLeftRight✉ 23:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I noticed that the festival is referred to as the Lunar New Year and bolded as such in the introduction, which to me as a reader suggests a pre-minence in naming. I understand calling the general set of traditions in various ethnicities surrounding the lunisolar new year as Lunar New Year, since it is shared among different ethnicities. This article seems to specifically be about the Chinese tradition - shouldn't it still be called the Chinese New Year? If the common argument is that the lunisolar new year celebrations of the different ethnicities are actually different holidays/festivals, then to label the Chinese New Year the "Lunar New Year" in the article specifically about the Chinese variant could easily be misinterpreted as once again saying that they are all the same festival. 67.225.31.68 (talk) 16:32, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Why dates in Gregorian calendar are given for the current year and future ones only, and not for past ones? Meridiana solare (talk) 11:14, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Procedural close. No valid rationale presented by nominator for requested move. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:23, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strong oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and also this very article. IP Clearly did not do any research. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:38, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Many other countries in Asia also celebrates this. It is not inherently Chinese. 117.58.154.100 (talk) 16:40, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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I've looked at a couple of references (1 and 2), neither of which seems to be at the article, whose table seems unsourced. However, both agree that the new year in 2030 will begin on 3 February. Dhtwiki (talk) 01:03, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In Special:Diff/1134402969, the 2024 date was changed from 31 January to 10 February, without explanation and without a citation, which caused some confusion for people relying on this article.
The top results in my web search ([1], [2], [3]) agree that it should be 10 February. But the way this change was implemented seems to be wrong. In addition to lacking a citation, this change hard codes the date into the article, instead of using templates like the other dates.
I hard-coded the date into the article because I couldn't find the template for the date. Taiwanexplorer36051 (talk) 09:10, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The template to use is {{Calendar date|holiday=...}}. You put the name of the holiday and it produces the date. However I found there is a bug in the Wikipedia code for lunar calendar computations for 2024. User @GreenC: eventually tracked it down to template {{ctime:x}}.
I didn't know how to read the code in ctime:x. Also it is one of many templates in Category:Chinese traditional date templates. Maybe the bug actually lives in a related template or is repeated in several.
That is why 2024 lunar dates should be hard-coded, until it is fixed.
Maybe, now that 2024 is just over the horizon, we can raise the issue again at Village Pump (technical), or some other appropriate forum. -- M.boli (talk) 10:33, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@M.boli:, according to User_talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq#"twk", this bug may have been fixed. It does appear to be the case by looking at the examples here. The fixes were made in different templates the diffs are in the "twk" talk page link. -- GreenC 21:02, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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