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Looking forward to watching Matt Ryan become a stiff old man wearing a suit with sneakers.
Edit: just realized I'm older than Matt Ryan.
The sneakers with suit trend is so bad
It's the uniform of that one kid at graduation who realized the day before that his dress shoes are now too small for him
Or "cool" boss who also will fire you via an email depsite it only being a 75-employee business
Specific... U ok, broski?
Disagree sneakers have been steadily progressing in American culture so far beyond athletic wear. Been going on for nearly 20 years, the term trend doesn’t work as I feel footwear in general has been going through a drastic shift recently (last 10+ years)
Easy fix. Don’t wear suits.
I'm on my knees in a suit and sneakers at Men's Warehouse realizing I too am older than Mr. Ryan.
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Bill Cowher got re-signed? Honestly, that's shocking
He can’t move 60% of his neck and gets lost in his own sentences, of course he is returning!
Sounds like he should run for office
Sleepy Bill
Sleepy Bill, bad coach, folks, people are saying it more and more. Needed Crooked Bill Leavy just to win a stolen Super Bowl, very sad.
He's not old enough. Only the oldest or most evil men will do for our oval office!
Offal office
He needs to be at least 80 years old before he can run for office
I think his tongue is like 75% too big
I feel like CBS heads get really shitty notes or don't get to watch the full games. I've seen Bill go on other shows and be very coherent, never forget player's names, etc.
Oddly, it seems that well-known coaches never get too old for broadcasting in the way well-known players do.
Yeah I love Terry and Jimmy but man they aren’t easy to listen to
Agreed, watching Bradshaw and Jimmy Johnson is just awkward and sad at this point.
If you think that’s bad, watch what College Gameday is doing with Lee Corso
Jimmy's rant for the Cowboys to play better against the Pack was top tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMylmv18MT8
Bradshaw needed to retire like 5 years ago
Time to put them out to pasture
Terry is far worse than Jimmy
Jimmy is still awesome. Terry, though, chemo brain has done its number on him and he gets completely lost at times. At the very least, he needs to stop doing highlights.
Yeah, I hate hearing either one stumble over their words every other sentence. It's pretty sad.
Totally. Ditka was on for a decade after he stopped having anything meaningful to say. And this is from a Bears fan.
The last decade of Ditka was really hard to watch. He would start every sentence and then interrupt himself each one of those sentences. I felt like I was having a medic alert moment every time he was on camera.
The heart attacks also did not help him too. He seemed great though on the 85 bears 30 for 30.
They clearly get too old but all the old people viewers get mad if you change it up at all. Especially talking about CBS...the old person network
Because it takes so much longer to get too old for coaching. I remember Bill Cowher was still getting talk regarding coaching opennings not too long ago. We all saw what happenned with Gruden.
It’s that odd. Usually Super Bowl winking or very elite coaches get broadcasting jobs. A lot of tier 2 and 3 players get media jobs based on name recognition when they retire.
Like why have Boomer and Simms when most most modern fans didn’t watch them and you could slot a guy like Rivers, Ryan, and even Greg Olsen in there. Montana and Marino from that era would have staying power. Those other guys are expendable.
Which is ironic when you consider that Boomer and Phil both had longer staying power on the show than Marino. Wish they were able to keep Shannon Sharpe on the show as well.
Montana’s reputation has staying power but he really sucked when he tried broadcasting after his playing days. On paper, he seems like he’d be an amazing broadcaster: one of the best players ever, good looking, witty. He just froze up when the camera light came on.
Some got it, some don’t, I guess.
Real ones remember when it’s was boomer, Shannon, James brown, Marino, cowher
Real ones remember when it was Brent Musburger, Herb Cross, Jimmy the Greek & Phyllis George
One of the first people ever cancelled.
If you got Cancel Culture’d in the late-1980s, you did something especially fucked up.
I remember a Letterman segment where he was presenting rejected children’s books, and one of them was “Jimmy the Greek’s Plantation Tales.”
Trailblazer.
Irv Cross
Jimmy was on NBC, though. (edit: apparently my memory sucks, I looked it up and he was in fact on CBS)
The Hans & Franz bit on SNL the week he got canned was fucking hilarious.
I remember when the CBS pregame was Brent Musburger, Irv Cross, Jimmy the Greek & Phyllis George. CBS did NFC games, NBC did AFC games & FOX didn't exist.
You forgot:
ABC did MNF games.
Terry Bradshaw was a solid to good game color analyst (on CBS) and wasn’t yet a total yahoo.
The good old days - I miss them.
Real ones remember when it was Musberger, Cross, Phyllis, and Jimmy the Greek
Even realer ones remember when it Jim Nantz, Marino, Boomer and Deion Sanders (who eventually left the show to get back on the field).
The Roy Kent special (kind of)
He's here, he's there, he is fucking everywhere!
Prime timeeeeee, Prime timeeeeee
The difference is Roy seems like a grouch but is really cool and well meaning. Deion seems really cool but is actually a massive asshole
I remember when it was Merlin Olsen and Hank Stram when I was a kid.
Merlin Olsen was a really good commentator...not as entertaining as Madden but every bit as good.
Him and Dick Enberg were a great pairing.
Deion Sanders and Jim Nantz
Nantz, Deion, Randy Cross, Mike Ditka, Jerry Glanville.
Man, those early CBS years after they got the NFL rights were rough. They had a full studio reboot like 3 times in 3 years. At one point Craig James was on there (disrespecting the family members of the hookers he allegedly killed).
Deion and Marino actually upped the playing credentials and quality quite a bit imo.
I remember when Marino gave Boomer the death stare.
OGs remember brent, irv, phyllis, and the greek. actual real ones.
I know it’s been 7 years since Romo took the color man job, but this feels like a quick fall for Phil Simms. Seems like yesterday he was CBS’s number one color commentator.
He was terrible as a color commentator and added next to nothing as an analyst
He was a lot better in the 90s and still decent in the 2000s. But he fell off quick.
Yeah I distinctly remember an article in SI in the early 2000s talking about how Simms was ahead of the pack in terms of breaking down plays and calling the game. I believe he even got nominated for a few Emmys back then. He just fell off hard. Actually both things I referenced in this comment fell off hard between Simms and SI lol. Just because something was bad recently doesn’t mean it’s always been that way
Indeed, people turned on him quickly. He was never truly great, but he was inoffensive and fine. Then he just stopped being that and folks hated him.
I will never forget his, “When the running back lines up behind the quarterback it’s either a run or a pass,” ‘insight.’
He’s been a blow hard ever since I can remember. He was so boring he would put me to sleep
A coworker pointed out that Phil Simms constantly asks rhetorical questions and then answers his own question. Once it was pointed out it made him basically unlistenable
The fact that Romo (who gets all kinds of hate as a color commentator) was an instant improvement over Simms in that role says a lot.
The Romo hate train didn't really start until his 2nd year though. That first year he was such an amazing breath of fresh air compared to how awful Simms had gotten
Romostradamus really pumped me up for what color commentary could really do to improve the viewing experience compared to Simms basically recalling the previous play while teams got set.
Romostradamus was so fun and entertaining. I miss that
I think it was literally the last few years the Romo hate train started.He was actually a really decent commentator for the first bunch of years. I don't know if he got lazy or what but the quality just tanked
I think there's 2 factors in Romo's decline in quality.
He's been out of the league long enough that his encyclopedic knowledge of NFL offensive and defensive schemes is starting to get out of date. The Romostradamus thing worked really well his first couple years, because he was fresh out of the league and still knew all the schemes he had been studying as a QB. The further he gets from being in the film study room with NFL coaches every week, the more that knowledge will decay. He'll never lose it completely, but it will certainly affect his ability to call out the exact playcall and be correct.
He's been getting nudged by the network to glaze the big stars. I think this is something that happens across all networks, which is why people complained about Rodgers getting glazed and why people complain about Mahomes and Allen getting glazed now. The network wants to push the big stars since they drive the most viewership, and if you talk down on the big stars that hurts the narrative the networks want to sell.
Yeah people didn't turn on him for no reason. He went from a guy that gave amazing insight into the game to basically just being a soundboard of annoying phrases and noises.
A good friend of mine is long in the tooth when it comes to sports casting. In Romo's first year of commentary, he said all the praise would go away quickly because his "predictions" is holdover knowledge of gameday prep. Once a few years get in between him and the playing days he will lose that edge. Sure enough, that came to be. CBS also is a good ol' boys club which doesn't set him up for sustainable success.
Romo hate train hadn't started until 3 years ago really
Romo was great his first year or two. Idk what happened, but he's definitely got less fun to listen to over the last few years.
He became a motormouth who won't stop yapping and he got really obsessive with Mahomes and Allen, making games with them hard to listen to. It's mainly the "excited puppy energy" issue, he won't let Nantz get a word in and is still talking when the next play is underway.
Romo's especially bad, but this is an issue in American sports broadcasting in general. Color commentators don't speak because they have something to say, but because they have to say something.
Exactly. I think Romo read his own press clippings and thinks the audience is waiting breathlessly for his every word. He just. won't. shut. up!
He was always like this, but most fans didn’t notice because what he was saying was new and fresh compared to others.Now that he has been doing it for years, people have grown tired of what he is saying and noticing how much he just yammers away.
I still remember watching the first game he called and I had to google who the new announcer was because he would not shut up. I had no idea Romo was going to be calling games. I came to Reddit thinking he would be getting roasted for how much he was talking and was shocked that everyone was loving on him so hard.