NYC Public Schools are falling apart due to COVID according to this High Schooler

strawberryanise said:

Is there a teacher who can confirm or deny this?

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It’s not entirely true. Last year, we did have a shortened schedule. We started/ended 40 minutes earlier than. So technically it is less teaching. However, I feel like I worked the hardest during that time because there was more accountability than ever before. The parents saw what we were teaching at all times, we had to grade EVERYTHING (any teacher would tell you that that is not the norm), having to plan engaging lessons that were conveyed well over the internet, and make sure that they retained the info. It was exhausting. I had to always have two computers in front of me to monitor engagement/attendance and small groups. Thank God for the paraprofessionals.

Boujiee said:

Unpopular opinion

These kids need to be in school not behind a computer, sorry to say. Especially special needs students where online learning in a MAJOR hassle (I've witnessed with my own eyes). Parents become the teachers and it causes way too much stress on certain households. Many parents do not have the patience or time to be the teacher while teachers sit on their asses at home and do the bare minimum. I'd want online learning if I was a teacher as well. They teach less and collect more. Kids get sick. Can't compromise their education because of a virus they will most likely recover from (of course there are some special cases). Officials KNOW this, which is why they aren't budging. Where officials went wrong is fear mongering and now they have to deal with the backlash of scared people. Be honest with the people, remove mandates, get your teachers back and clean up this damn this mess.

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Parents are supposed to be the first teachers in the kid’s lives. What kind of clownery is this?
I bet you sent your kid to pre-school not knowing their ABCs, colors or how to count to ten.

strawberryanise said:

Is there a teacher who can confirm or deny this?

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Yes and no. Most teachers are working HARD to educate children. Yes, of course we have some bad apples that don’t want to work but they are not the majority. It’s really not safe in the schools. The kids do not wear their mask correctly. The schools are not properly ventilated like they are suppose to be. The kids are not social distancing. Plus the schools are absolutely not being cleaned like they are suppose to be. The teachers are SCARED and overwhelmed . It’s literally like going to war everyday.

All school is lunch in public schools is FREE because of covid so that can’t be the excuse. School lunch funds are provided by the federal government.

I’m not in NYC but in another major city on the East coast and it is a complete shit show. So many teachers are quitting(including me; I handed in my letter on Monday). Students are out; we’re packed into classrooms 35-45 students to cover classes. These kids can’t get vaccinated yet. This isn’t sustainable. I don’t know what’s it’s going to take but I’m out of here in 2 weeks and going to corporate.

linlin27 said:

Chicago is literally in a fist fight with its teachers, all classes have been cancelled this week because they refuse to do in-person teaching until negotiations are final.

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Yes, but again schools across the country are open and across the globe. Teachers and parents are not fistfighting everywhere even though the pandemic impacts the entire globe. Many countries, first world countries at that, never closed their schools at all even when we didn't have a "vaccine". This clearly is about more than just COVID.

Boujiee said:

Unpopular opinion

These kids need to be in school not behind a computer, sorry to say. Especially special needs students where online learning in a MAJOR hassle (I've witnessed with my own eyes). Parents become the teachers and it causes way too much stress on certain households. Many parents do not have the patience or time to be the teacher while teachers sit on their asses at home and do the bare minimum. I'd want online learning if I was a teacher as well. They teach less and collect more. Kids get sick. Can't compromise their education because of a virus they will most likely recover from (of course there are some special cases). Officials KNOW this, which is why they aren't budging. Where officials went wrong is fear mongering and now they have to deal with the backlash of scared people. Be honest with the people, remove mandates, get your teachers back and clean up this damn this mess.

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How about you teach then?

For most Americans the coronavirus is a scourge. But teachers seem to think it’s also an opportunity—to squeeze more money from taxpayers, shorten their workload, shorten their workday, complain about COVID then you see them out to eat at restaurants, etc.

You get summers off. You signed up for a job where you have to be in person. Much like a nurse or doctor. Either get a new job where you will work past 3pm and during the summer, or get back to work.

These kids online are learning nothing. No social skills, no sports or team comraderie, they're online about 2 hours a day doing remedial work. Anyone who thinks this is ok better be fine in 15 years when Jimmy is living in their basement living off of them still cause he cant get a job or hold down a college course load or work well with others.

And for the dummies in the back…vaccinations has nothing to do with it. I’m in the south; there is no mandate. What don’t y’all get? TEACHERS ARE LEAVING! Some of y’all are about to be in for a real shock come August. There are currently 250 openings in my school district alone. My school alone, has 6 openings, and NO ONE is applying. This is one of the better schools.

I’m glad teachers are standing up for themselves and quitting. So glad. Teach the children you chose to have yourselves.

NopeNotMe said:

NYC should be doing things differently because it is the most densely populated city in the world.

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Um... Not even close

YokoSussex said:

For most Americans the coronavirus is a scourge. But teachers seem to think it’s also an opportunity—to squeeze more money from taxpayers, shorten their workload, shorten their workday, complain about COVID then you see them out to eat at restaurants, etc.

You get summers off. You signed up for a job where you have to be in person. Much like a nurse or doctor. Either get a new job where you will work past 3pm and during the summer, or get back to work.

These kids online are learning nothing. No social skills, no sports or team comraderie, they're online about 2 hours a day doing remedial work. Anyone who thinks this is ok better be fine in 15 years when Jimmy is living in their basement living off of them still cause he cant get a job or hold down a college course load or work well with others.

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Teachers don’t get summers off, they’re spent on workshops and certifications that come out of their own pockets.
Also, reaching out to parents, planning (as many planning periods no longer exist) and grading takes the day way beyond 3:00.
Anymore clownish takes?

LGTTMB said:

Parents are supposed to be the first teachers in the kid’s lives. What kind of clownery is this?
I bet you sent your kid to pre-school not knowing their ABCs, colors or how to count to ten.

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I don't have any children but I help out family members with their children from time to time and was able to witness what was going on last year. You're wrong and probably one of the teachers I was talking about. The children in my life are intelligent, well mannered, potty trained AND are taught the basics before stepping foot in an educational facility. Yes, parents are the first teachers however teachers have studied and are trained to give them formal education. That does not go away just because the pandemic started and does not mean parents should fulfill the roles that TEACHERS are paid to fulfill.

This is just temporary though. After 5 days everyone will be back to work/school from when they took off. Also COVID cases will start to come down. At this point it’s nothing we can do anyways.

LGTTMB said:

Teachers don’t get summers off, they’re spent on workshops and certifications that come out of their own pockets.
Also, reaching out to parents, planning (as many planning periods no longer exist) and grading takes the day way beyond 3:00.
Anymore clownish takes?

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That first part is laughable. I know at least 5 teachers, not one is doing that shit over the summer. Again, teachers and teachers union are the biggest liars there are.

Half this online work is multiple choice, grading takes literally 5 minutes to grade 30 quizzes. Or it's online. GTFO

linlin27 said:

No one has a duty to children 'no matter what the world is going through' self preservation comes first. What kinda shit is that? That's like your job saying you can't leave under any circumstances because you made a pRoMiSe. It's AT-WILL employment and they're allowed to stand up and protect themselves just as you would. You just don't give a fuck because you're getting free child care.

Matter of fact, what are YOU doing for the child that you BIRTHED into the world. Did you not make a committment to teach them no matter what? That's your job, end of story. If a teacher can't get it done are you just gonna bitch and moan? no, sis, you made a REAL promise to said child. You do it! You should be making posts about pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, since you know so damn much.

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Girl stfu. You're also probably one of the teachers I was talking about. When was risks for illnesses never a risk for teachers? Please let me know. If you feel like being a teacher is not in your best health interest and you'd rather compromise your students education for your own benefit, then do yourself and students a favor by finding a different profession.

Don't have any children but I'm involved in young children's lives and I want nothing more than for them to receive the proper education I was and YOU were able to get. If parents should take up the responsibilities that teachers no longer want to take, make sure you give up your checks and benefits in the process <3

AND WHOS GETTING FREE CHILD CARE? THAT'S HOW YOU VIEW YOUR JOB? GIRL QUIT LMFAOO. You shouldn't be anywhere near someone's child.

Remote learning would not really affect me because I run my own online business, so I don't have to worry about working for someone else outside of the home. However, if they shut schools down, there will definitely have to be some sort of money coming in for parents that have children that are either too young to stay home by themselves and/or have disabilities that prevent them from being able to be left alone.

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Makes me wonder what school this is because they definitely don't do that at my son's school. Everyone in that classroom would've had to stay home.

YokoSussex said:

That first part is laughable. I know at least 5 teachers, not one is doing that shit over the summer. Again, teachers and teachers union are the biggest liars there are.

Half this online work is multiple choice, grading takes literally 5 minutes to grade 30 quizzes. Or it's online. GTFO

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Your brief interactions with teachers you allegedly know doesn’t make you anywhere near an expert on what teachers do and don’t do.
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Someone who has actually actively subbed and previously planned on being a being a teacher myself but saw firsthand (keyword saw, not “heard” or read) what teachers have to deal with

HipsDontLie said:

I'm confused! Aren't all NYC teachers VACCINATED? They fired the unvaxxed teachers so why are NYC schools STILL in shambles? I thought firing unvaxxed teachers would prevent this from happening? Is this a pandemic of the vaccinated?

Covid Cult, please answer!

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Yes all the teachers & students are vaccinated

LGTTMB said:

Your brief interactions with teachers you allegedly know doesn’t make you anywhere near an expert on what teachers do and don’t do.
Source:
Someone who has actually actively subbed and previously planned on being a being a teacher myself but saw firsthand (keyword saw, not “heard” or read) what teachers have to deal with

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Girl, my sisters are both teachers in NJ. I didn't just "hear". During the summer my brother works construction, my sister is off.

And guess what, both have kids and are back at schools teaching and want their kids in school.

If you subbed only and didn't teach that means you couldn't get a job or are not even educated enough to be a teacher. So bye.

Oooohgirl86 said:

How about you teach then?

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Sure, hand me your checks and benefits while I do.

Children and Families are not a monolith. After the first shutdown, the NYC DOE should've given parents a remote option, and a separate group of teachers should've been selected for remote teaching only.
I work from home remotely, so unlike other parents, I can (and would rather) have my nephew learning at home. His social skills with peers can be done with play-dates (something I did during the first shut down). As well as taking him to museums and doing hand-on activities that correlate with his schooling. Many parents I know, just don't want to stay home with their children, and think of schools as babysitting their children. But for those parents who want remote learning, we should have that option. Because if you have some children home remotely, then that's less bodies in the classroom and a lesser chance of coming into contact with Covid for those who are in the school building. Therefore, for the parents who have to work or want to send their child to school, they can do so knowing that the school isn't at FULL capacity.
If I could afford to home-school, I would do that. However, if remote learning was an option, I think it could be a win-win situation for everyone. My nephew (a sixth grader) thrived while learning remotely, because he didn't have those classroom distractions, and I made sure that he was up, dressed, fed, and ready to learn!
Parents have to do their job as well, and work with the teachers.
Many parents do not understand this new Common Core curriculum, and many of the younger teachers don't understand anything before Common Core. There were many times when I had to teach the teacher (especially with math and ELA) on how standard algorithms made math easier to learn vs the new common core method. And in ELA, they're not even teaching these kids how to critically think and properly analyze literature. However, because the teacher and I were working together, my son understood the material better and it showed. There was a drastic upgrade when he took his standardized test.
Many teachers are burnt out because some parents ain't doing a third of the shyt they should be doing as a parent! I've sat through some of those remote classes last year, and the teacher literally had to tell some students to get out of the damn bed and sit at a table or on the couch with their laptop, and not lay in the bed with it! That's a parental matter, not an educational matter that the teacher should have to handle. Parents and teachers should work TOGETHER during times like this because the new mayor of NYC and this new governor don't know WTF they're doing!!! They only care about the economic numbers, NOT the health/safety of the children or teachers.

"His social skills with peers can be done with play-dates (something I did during the first shut down). As well as taking him to museums and doing hand-on activities that correlate with his schooling."

So he can't be in school, but hell the MOMA is totally cool? THIS IS THE PROBLEM. Play dates, museums, are just as risky as being in school.

YokoSussex said:

Girl, my sisters are both teachers in NJ. I didn't just "hear". During the summer my brother works construction, my sister is off.

And guess what, both have kids and are back at schools teaching and want their kids in school.

YOU honestly sound like you just didnt want to actually WORK. If you subbed only and didnt teach that means you couldnt get a job or are not even educated enough to be a teacher. So bye.

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First, I only subbed as I had not yet graduated.
I live in a relatively low cost of living area and first year teachers get paid $65k right off the bat.
If the job is so damn easy, why on earth would I or anyone be rejecting a position with a low barrier of entry with a high starting salary?
Your sister being a teacher still doesn’t mean you know every detail of what she has to do every moment of every working day.
Being that I actually had an interest in teaching, I actually know what teachers were doing from the moment they started their day, till they finished, as I wanted to know what it’d look like for me.

My best friend is an engineer and I’ve known him for several years and I’d look like a damn fool claiming to intimately know every bit about what he does on the job and when he does it.

never mind

Blacmirrors2 said:

Yes, but again schools across the country are open and across the globe. Teachers and parents are not fistfighting everywhere even though the pandemic impacts the entire globe. Many countries, first world countries at that, never closed their schools at all even when we didn't have a "vaccine". This clearly is about more than just COVID.

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Chicago is the 3rd largest city in America, that's a big deal. NYC is #1. LA #2, is refusing to go back without testing....soooooo, something isn't adding up if our 3 largest cities are having issues.

What are these cities returning without issue? I just listed the top 3 in America..

Delet This said:

Yes all the teachers & students are vaccinated

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Not all students are vaccinated.

linlin27 said:

Chicago is the 3rd largest city in America, that's a big deal. NYC is #1. LA #2, is refusing to go back without testing....soooooo, something isn't adding up if our 3 largest cities are having issues.

What are these cities returning without issue? I just listed the top 3 in America..

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Not Philly.

‘This is not the way to handle things’: Teachers and parents say Philly’s partial reopening of schools is chaotic

As some Philly kids return to buildings, schools cope with staff and student absences due to COVID-19

Boujiee said:

Unpopular opinion

These kids need to be in school not behind a computer, sorry to say. Especially special needs students where online learning in a MAJOR hassle (I've witnessed with my own eyes). Parents become the teachers and it causes way too much stress on certain households. Many parents do not have the patience or time to be the teacher while teachers sit on their asses at home and do the bare minimum. I'd want online learning if I was a teacher as well. They teach less and collect more. Kids get sick. Can't compromise their education because of a virus they will most likely recover from (of course there are some special cases). Officials KNOW this, which is why they aren't budging. Where officials went wrong is fear mongering and now they have to deal with the backlash of scared people. Be honest with the people, remove mandates, get your teachers back and clean up this damn this mess.

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It's obvious that you aren't a teacher much less one during this time. Most teachers have to keep the regular schedule for virtual classes as well. We are to maintain normalcy with lunch, stretch breaks, specials such as art, etc.

Some teachers also have school age children who are home as well while having to get a Zoom class of 23-24 students to stay engaged, stop watching YouTube or Roblox when you are trying to teach them the fundamentals of long division or review basic facts, etc.

Know that the teachers you claim who "sit on their asses at home and do the bare minimum" still have to go to IEP meetings for the special needs students---have you asked those parents what they are doing to help their children or are they depending on the teachers to do everything? Are they asking for weekly conferences with the general education and special education teachers to keep up with progress? Are they logging into the online gradebook to see how their child is doing? We still have to give the accommodations that are legally binding so that calls for having to create lessons with breakout rooms often when the special education teacher is not available.

Teachers have to prepare lessons for online teaching which takes far longer than when we are in person. Have you ever had to make a Google slideshow that is interactive and engaging? Have you ever had to call a parent during your virtual lunch break to tell them that their child will not respond when their name is called just to take attendance only to be cursed out and told that "They know their child is in class because they told them so?" Or my favorite---when I mark down incomplete work that was to be turned in online and a parent wants to rant about that, go back and forth until I send a screenshot of the incomplete work with a million other game tabs open at the top of the child's screen. Or the child who knows how to keep clicking off the class and acting like something is wrong with the laptop so that when the teacher calls home (I've done it) in the middle of class with the parent claiming to be sitting right there but being embarrassed when I can prove that the child isn't doing the work. Parents don't want to have cameras on...fine. All I would ask is that you flip your camera on to say good morning, answer a question, or say goodbye even though I know they were off camera on phones, playing video games etc.

Until you have had any of this happen to you, don't generalize teachers who are doing the best we can with some flippant "sitting on their asses" comments. People like you are part of the problem.

powderpuff said:

It's obvious that you aren't a teacher much less one during this time. Most teachers have to keep the regular schedule for virtual classes as well. We are to maintain normalcy with lunch, stretch breaks, specials such as art, etc.

Some teachers also have school age children who are home as well while having to get a Zoom class of 23-24 students to stay engaged, stop watching YouTube or Roblox when you are trying to teach them the fundamentals of long division or review basic facts, etc.

Know that the teachers you claim who "sit on their asses at home and do the bare minimum" still have to go to IEP meetings for the special needs students---have you asked those parents what they are doing to help their children or are they depending on the teachers to do everything? Are they asking for weekly conferences with the general education and special education teachers to keep up with progress? Are they logging into the online gradebook to see how their child is doing? We still have to give the accommodations that are legally binding so that calls for having to create lessons with breakout rooms often when the special education teacher is not available.

Teachers have to prepare lessons for online teaching which takes far longer than when we are in person. Have you ever had to make a Google slideshow that is interactive and engaging? Have you ever had to call a parent during your virtual lunch break to tell them that their child will not respond when their name is called just to take attendance only to be cursed out and told that "They know their child is in class because they told them so?" Or my favorite---when I mark down incomplete work that was to be turned in online and a parent wants to rant about that, go back and forth until I send a screenshot of the incomplete work with a million other game tabs open at the top of the child's screen. Or the child who knows how to keep clicking off the class and acting like something is wrong with the laptop so that when the teacher calls home (I've done it) in the middle of class with the parent claiming to be sitting right there but being embarrassed when I can prove that the child isn't doing the work. Parents don't want to have cameras on...fine. All I would ask is that you flip your camera on to say good morning, answer a question, or say goodbye even though I know they were off camera on phones, playing video games etc.

Until you have had any of this happen to you, don't generalize teachers who are doing the best we can with some flippant "sitting on their asses" comments. People like you are part of the problem.

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More likely than not one time she just simply heard a teacher say that they had an easy day one day and took it and ran with it, turning it into teachers not ever doing shit at work.

Boujiee said:

So teachers are expecting the parents to be the teachers? When teachers are paid to teach??? Teachers get many benefits aside from pay so who's really the lazy ones? Miss me with all of this.

If nurses and doctors can get up and go to work in disease-ridden hospitals (because it's their job), teachers need to go teach in schools because it is their jobs. Not to be at home and let the parents be the main teachers while they're collecting the checks and benefits.

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No. Teachers are expecting parents to actually COME to parent teacher meetings, check homework when it's given (my parents actually SIGNED mine, unprompted), to follow up with notes and phone calls when their child has bad behavior or lacking attendance.

These kids are 9, 10 years, ditching school, coming when they want to, mouthing off, trying to FIGHT teachers and guess what? They can't even TOUCH them to break up a fight between kids OR defend themselves if a child raises their hand to them.

Teaching does NOT stop in the classroom and you canNOT make a child learn who absolutely refuses, made even worse by parents who don't even do the bare minimum of backing the teacher up to show that they are serious about their child's education.

Your responses show you are EXTREMELY biased against teachers. Just say that and go.