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Trump, the Establishment, and the Middle Class
Gary North - January 28, 2016

Reality Check

I really wanted to title this: "The Assassination of Donald Trump" But I am not looking for publicity.

If Donald Trump ever becomes a serious threat to the American establishment, he will be assassinated.

If you really believe that he is a threat to the American establishment, then you had also better believe that his Vice President had better be an even greater threat to the establishment. That will be his life insurance policy.

That's the bottom line. That's real conspiracy theory. I am a conspiracy historian.

As far as I can see, Trump is not a threat to the American establishment. Nobody is a threat to the American establishment. Ron Paul would have been, but he was never going to be vetted by the American establishment, which is what it takes to get elected President of the United States. In any case, getting elected President of the United States is of only marginal relevance, except symbolically, unless the President gets the country into a major war. I don't think this is likely.

Symbols are important. Reagan's rhetoric was important. But to imagine that Ronald Reagan fundamentally changed the American political system, except to make massive federal deficits a legacy of the Republican Party, is to believe in a fairytale. I liked his rhetoric, but his budget deficits overwhelmed his rhetoric. I can't think of a single cabinet level appointment the Reagan ever made that made a difference. The best appointment he ever made was David Stockman, and Stockman resigned. But Stockman was not a cabinet level appointment.

So, what I say here is based on a premise, namely, that nothing the American public can do politically threatens the American political establishment. It has the Federal Reserve System. It has the Internal Revenue Service. It has gerrymandering at the state level. It sets the rules for political contributions. It controls the three dozen major universities that shape the thinking of the entire world. It controls the accreditation of American universities. It runs the show.

I don't think it will run the show half a century from now. I think computerization, robotics, online education, communications, and the Great Default will combine to remove legitimacy from the prevailing American establishment. But there will be a replacement establishment. I hope that it will be decentralized, and that there will be not much communications and cooperation among the various local establishments. I think the good old boys are going to replace the old boy network.

Therefore, I don't think the election of Donald Trump is going to change anything. He will not get anything through Congress that Congress doesn't want to get into law. He will face enormous hostility from the media. He cannot recruit the leadership that he will need, unless his recruits have been vetted by the establishment and the establishments system of accredited higher education. I do not see a single spokesman for Trump who has experience at any level of government. He is, more than anyone I have ever seen in American political history, a one-man show. This is why, if he ever does become a threat, the show can be stopped. It will be stopped.

Trump has no backup. He has a one-year constituency, but this constituency has no political experience. He has great appeal to millions of Americans who rightly understand that they have been blocked out of all aspects of leadership in American life. This especially applies to politics, but it surely also applies to education. They are people without much money, much experience, much self-discipline, and much willingness to do anything except go to the polls. America is not going to be transformed by people who come out for the first time to vote in the Republican primaries, and then come out to vote next November. When the voting is over, they will still be locked out. The American establishment will still be in control.

This assumes that Hillary Clinton does not get the nomination, or does not get indicted, and does not win the election. I think she will get the nomination if Obama lets her avoid being indicted. The betting sites still have her as the winner in November. So, what I'm saying here is mostly hypothetical.

AMERICAN POPULISM

Populism. The word is common, but most people's understanding of populism in American history is virtually nonexistent. I am aware of it because I studied it in a graduate student half a century ago, and I have studied it intermittently ever since.

Do a Google search for two words: populism, Trump. There is a large body of material regarding the connection between Trump and populism. Political commentators of all ideological commitments recognize that Trump's candidacy is an outgrowth of populism. I would go further than this. This is the most important manifestation of populism since the three-time candidacy of William Jennings Bryan in 1896, 1900, and 1908.

Bryan's candidacy was directly the result of agrarian populism. That populism is long gone, because only 2% of America's population is involved in farming today. That was not true in 1896.

The populist movement in 1896 was about 25 years old. It was socially conservative. It was part of the rural South and the Midwest. There was a strong degree of anti-Semitism in it. There was a strong commitment to fiat money -- anti-"cross of gold." There was also a strong commitment to government regulation.

Bryan was the most politically liberal candidate in the history of the United States. This is not to say that there have not been liberal candidates since him, but the disparity politically between Bryan and McKinley was comparable to the Grand Canyon. When Lyndon Johnson defeated Barry Goldwater, we were all aware of the disparity, but by the time Johnson was elected, he was no longer considered to be a far Left politician. He was simply an extension of the New Deal. McGovern versus Nixon was analogous. McGovern's political roots were pretty much the same as Bryan's had been: agrarian populism. But by 1972, populism was urban, not agrarian.

Here is what is rarely discussed: the alliance between populism and maverick elitist politicians. It began during the Stamp Act Crisis, 1765-68. It brought on the American Revolution in 1775. What is significant is this: after the American Revolution, competing regional establishments got together in Philadelphia to hammer out a Constitution that would enable each of the elitist regional establishments to keep power at the expense of the voters.

The South's elite was incredibly rich, and the region was hierarchical almost to the point of feudalism. There has never been an American hierarchy as rigid as the one that dominated the South, and especially the most rigid hierarchy in American history, the hierarchy that ran South Carolina. South Carolina seceded in 1860, just as it had threatened to secede in 1832. It became the representative of the South, and the common man had no say in the matter. The legislatures had nothing to do with this in South Carolina. Legally separate conventions did.

The campaign of Andrew Jackson in 1828 began to undermine this consolidation. But the issue of abolitionism created two distinct political regions out of what had originally been at least six regions in 1775. The outcome of the Civil War enabled the consolidation of power in the hands of Northerners, who now regarded themselves as a single separate culture -- a new idea. The South could get back into the arrangement only by capitulating on most issues. But the North after 1877 deferred on matters of race. From the end of Reconstruction in 1877 until about 1970, Southern racism controlled southern politics, and no other issue was central to political victory. This is no longer the case. But the South remains solid, this time for Republicans rather than Democrats. That is because Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 in July. He knew this would happen, and it did. It happened before the year was over. Barry Goldwater had regional support only in the South.

There was a populist resurgence in the South after Reconstruction ended in 1877. One of the most famous of its leaders was a man known as Pitchfork Ben Tillman. It was all fake. He was a wealthy landowner. But he was the most popular politician in South Carolina. He was elected governor. He was elected to the Senate. He hated Grover Cleveland. He hated the gold standard. He hated anything remotely resembling a free society. He once said that he would have been happy to participate in a lynch mob. Lynch mobs in South Carolina did not lynch whites.

The most successful American populist politician in the 20th century was Louisiana's Huey Long. He was a dictator. But he was smart. Wikipedia reports:



As chairman of the Public Service Commission in 1922, Long won a lawsuit against the Cumberland Telephone & Telegraph Company for unfair rate increases, resulting in cash refunds of $440,000 to 80,000 overcharged customers. Long successfully argued the case on appeal before the United States Supreme Court (Comberland Telephone & Telegraph Co. v. Louisiana Public Service Commission et al., 260 U.S. 212 (1922), prompting Chief Justice William Howard Taft to describe Long as one of the best legal minds he had ever encountered.
Huey's style of politics ended with his assassination in 1936.



The populist Greenbacker, Ellen Brown, whose views I have dissected in a department on this site, has recently praised Bernie Sanders as a populist. She sees European socialism as populist. Populist rhetoric is experiencing a revival.

SAM FRANCIS'S 1996 ARTICLE

To understand why Trump really is a populist politician, you would be wise to read an article, written 20 years ago, by Sam Francis. It is here. In recent days, it has received a lot of attention, primarily because Rush Limbaugh discovered it, wrote an article about it, and talked about it on his radio show. Limbaugh connected this article with Trump's campaign.

I knew Francis. He was very smart. He had a Ph.D. in history out of the University of North Carolina. He was a very good writer. But he was truly alienated from politics.

He made a crucially important observation about the American middle class. In my opinion, all political analysis of the middle class in the United States should begin with the following summary:



Middle Americans, emerging from the ruins of the old independent middle and working classes, found conservative, libertarian, and pro-business Republican ideology and rhetoric irrelevant, distasteful, and even threatening to their own socioeconomic interests. The post-World War II middle class was in reality an affluent proletariat, economically dependent on the federal government through labor codes, housing loans, educational programs, defense contracts, and health and unemployment benefits. All variations of conservative doctrine rejected these as illegitimate extensions of the state and boasted of plans to abolish most of them, and Middle American allegiance to political parties and candidates espousing such doctrine could never become firm. Yet, at the same time, the Ruling Class proved unable to uproot the social, cultural, and national identities and loyalties of the Middle American proletariat, and Middle Americans found themselves increasingly alienated from the political left and its embrace of anti-national policies and countercultural manners and morals.
Pat Buchanan echoed this sentiment this week.



Republicans in power not only failed to roll back the Great Society but also collaborated in its expansion. Half the U.S. population today depends on government benefits.
Consider Medicare and Social Security, the largest and most expensive federal programs, critical to seniors and the elderly who give Republicans the largest share of their votes.

If Republicans start curtailing and cutting those programs, they will come to know the fate of Barry Goldwater.

This means that the Republican Party must submit to the New Deal. It has. It does. It will. So, it does not matter who is elected in November if we want a roll-back of the welfare state. The welfare state will be with us until the Great Default.

Then why get excited by Trump? Entertainment, yes. Any other reason? Not that I can think of.

Francis blamed Buchanan in 1996 for not being sufficiently populist. He had no use for the Beltway conservatism of the think tanks. He didn't have any use for Richard Viguerie's direct mail operation. Here is the advice he gave to Pat Buchanan in 1991.



I recall in late 1991, in the aftermath of a wall-to-wall gathering at his home to discuss his coming campaign, I told him privately that he would be better off without all the hangers-on, direct-mail artists, fund-raising whiz kids, marketing and PR czars, and the rest of the crew that today constitutes the backbone of all that remains of the famous "Conservative Movement" and who never fail to show up on the campaign doorstep to guzzle someone else's liquor and pocket other people's money. "These people are defunct," I told him. "You don't need them, and you're better off without them. Go to New Hampshire and call yourself a patriot, a nationalist, an America Firster, but don't even use the word 'conservative.' It doesn't mean anything any more."
Here is the point that Francis missed. With the exception of the Goldwater campaign, which came out of nowhere, the conservative movement was never a serious threat to the American establishment. The American establishment has vetted all roads to political leadership and social leadership in this country. This process began early. It began in the 17th century in most regions, and it has consolidated its power ever since 1788.

TECHNOLOGY VS. THE MIDDLE CLASS

The populist movement of agrarianism after 1877 was doomed from the beginning. It was doomed for a very specific reason: technological improvements. Fewer and fewer people had to live on a farm in order to feed America and much of the rest of the world. The extraordinary increase in agricultural productivity that began the later than 1840 doomed the small farmers. They desperately cried out for financial support from the federal government, but they never got it. By the time the new deal gave support to the farmers, these were large farmers. Agribusiness took over American farming, and the populist movement disappeared. It disappeared as a separate political force after 1908.

The same thing is happening to the American middle class. It is not a matter of tariffs. It is not a matter of immigrants. It is a matter of technological progress that has displaced the traditional employment of the working class, and now these same forces of technological progress are replacing high wage jobs among the middle class. Nothing can stop this. Nothing is going to stop this. As surely as the farmers were displaced by technological progress, and were forced to move to the cities, so will computerization, robots, and the constant decline in the price of information replace traditional middle-class occupations. There is no way to avoid this.

The voters who re-elected Roosevelt in 1936 in order to secure their welfare state goodies became addicted to these goodies. So did the whole nation. Their heirs will never turn loose of them voluntarily. The Great Default is going to pry the goodies out of the hands of the great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren of the people who voted for Franklin Roosevelt. He was the pusher who addicted the masses, and the masses remain addicted.

These pathetic souls really believe that voting for a particular candidate is going to in any way slow down the forces of technological progress which are eliminating their careers they can also not avoid the great default. It is going to happen, and anyone who looks at the figures knows it is going to happen.

TRUMP AS TEDDY ROOSEVELT

Teddy Roosevelt was the first politician in the 20th century who understood how to manipulate the middle class. He was not simply a Harvard graduate. He had actually been a member of Porcelian, the secret society that was founded a generation before Skull and Bones at Yale. Roosevelt's choice for president in 1908 was William Howard Taft, whose father was a founder of Skull and Bones. But of course none of this gets into the textbooks.

Roosevelt was an elitist's elitist. But he used the rhetoric of the middle class to get elected in 1904. He was wildly popular, and he remains popular.

His cousin Franklin understood what Teddy had done, and he adopted a similar strategy in 1933. Both of them were famous for their broad smiles.

The only significant difference between Donald Trump and the two Roosevelt is that he is famous for his scowl.

Neither of the Roosevelts was openly ideological. Neither of them was openly liberal when they first got elected. But they always used the language of democracy. They positioned themselves as representatives of the broad masses of America's voters.

Teddy was overwhelmingly elected in 1904, and that was the last gasp of the old gold standard, low-tariff wing of the Democratic Party. That was the Cleveland wing, and almost nobody remembers who the candidate was who went down to defeat as the representative of that link. You can look it up.

Donald Trump has no ideology. Neither did the two Roosevelts. Donald Trump appeals to the masses with rhetoric against the elite. So did both of the Roosevelts. Donald Trump is a member of the elite. So were both of the Roosevelts.

Donald Trump came out of the Wharton business school University of Pennsylvania. This is one of the Ivy League schools. He did not work his way up as a member of the working class, or the middle class, or any other class except the ruling class. He was the son of a multimillionaire real estate developer.

I don't think Donald Trump has the makings of a dictator. Congress is not going to allow it. The Supreme Court is not going to allow it. And if he is ever seen as a threat, he's going to be assassinated. But I don't think this is going to happen. He is not a threat.

He has shown up the Republican establishment. The old boy network does not like to be shown up. He is one of their own, in the same way that Franklin Roosevelt was one of their own. The Republican establishment really hated Roosevelt. They referred to him as "that man." But the Republican establishment never went away, and it has never made a serious attempt to repeal the New Deal.

The New Deal is going to be repealed by the Great Default, not by the Republican Party.

What I'm saying is this. Don't be misled by vague rhetorical appeals about sticking it to the elite. Don't be misled by any talk about tariffs protecting American manufacturers. American manufacturing are down to about 10% of the economy, and lots of this is going to be replaced by 3-D printers, not by the Chinese. In any case, Chinese workers are being displaced now by workers in Bangladesh in Vietnam. They can't compete.

Congress is not going to give Donald Trump a round of tariff increases. Even if Congress does, and Trump signs the bill into law, the WTO will not allow it. American sovereignty on trade got transferred to the WTO two decades ago. Congress has nothing to say about any longer. In any case, Congress is generally in favor of low tariffs.

It is all about rhetoric. Trump has issued no position papers. He doesn't have any advisors, as far as I can see. If he gets elected and submits people for cabinet-level candidates who are not part of the Council on Foreign Relations' circle, Congress can block the appointments. Congress can refuse to pass bills he wants. The bipartisan establishment is not about to surrender power to Donald Trump.

CONCLUSIONS

If you want to know how the system works, I can do no better than to quote Jimmy Carter's campaign manager, Hamilton Jordan. Historian Douglas Brinkley reported in 2002 in The New York Times:



Carter's selection of Vance to head his foreign-policy team in December 1976 surprised even his closest advisers. After all, he had run for president as an outsider, a one-term Georgia governor who wanted little to do with so-called Eastern Establishment types like Vance. "If, after the inauguration," Carter's campaign manager, Hamilton Jordan, told the press, "you find Cy Vance as secretary of state and Zbigniew Brzezinski as head of national security, then I would say we failed. And I'd quit." Both men, as it turned out, were selected for those posts, and Jordan never quit.
The establishment has pushed the limits of taxation. They are not going to go through another round of tax increases. The system is pretty much set. Federal spending is pretty much set. Nothing is going to change for as long as Washington's checks don't bounce. Neither Clinton nor Trump is going to find lots of new sources of taxation. The budget is not going to be balanced. The recession is going to hit.

The system will survive for as long as its financing can survive. Serious social and economic change will only begin when Washington's checks bounce. It will be politics as usual until then.
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The show must go on !!
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Hard to put down article.

I'm not sure that he ever really defined 'Populism' though.

There are terms for other aspects of Mr. Trump's 'popularity' like nativism, individualism etc.

First blood was drawn in Oregon recently.

Assassination of a 'Popular' President would take the gloves off. really, what's the point of living in the collective?
 

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Hard to put down article.

I'm not sure that he ever really defined 'Populism' though.

There are terms for other aspects of Mr. Trump's 'popularity' like nativism, individualism etc.

First blood was drawn in Oregon recently
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Assassination of a 'Popular' President would take the gloves off. really, what's the point of living in the collective?

It's so sad because...I'm not sure what else it was people were expecting.

People still don't get it... they don't care about you. They don't like you, they don't want you around. Why does it take such an agonizing, glacial process to learn how this works?

They really think .gov is going to see how upset they are about genocide and dispossession and say"we're sorry, we'll never do it again". lol

The gov is doing the same thing to them THEY should be doing. THEY should have set up that trap if they wanted to win so bad, not driving to meetings to plead a case. It's some fundamental disconnect with reality.

"We don't want people to think we're bad guys. We were complying."

Guess what pal? People think you are bad guys because most people are worthless and weak. They'll fall in line with whoever is stronger, nobody wants to follow some compliant loser. Do you see men buying t-shirts that say "I am compliant"? No, they'd love to be identified as some badass to seem like less of a pussy.

If the patriots seem invincible while taunting their enemies and issuing commands people want to be a part of that. If they sit in a cell whining they are innocent, nobody will be with them. Nobody want to be a stupid little victim afraid of bad names, they only follow alpha.

The trick is, make them more afraid of you than the real bad guys. Cultivate a badass winners reputation of guys who get the hottest chicks and know no fear.

"Those guys are terrible but you do not want to fuck with them. Did you hear what they did last week to those poor immigrants who were complying innocently? Oh it's awful. I hope they're not watching, they are everywhere.".

Incidentally this is also the way back into women's hearts.

"My bf is a 3%er" oooooooooohhh

Now you're getting warmer goy.
 
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It's so sad because...I'm not sure what else it was people were expecting.

People still don't get it... they don't care about you. They don't like you, they don't want you around. Why does it take such an agonizing, glacial process to learn how this works?

They really think .gov is going to see how upset they are about genocide and dispossession and say"we're sorry, we'll never do it again". lol

The gov is doing the same thing to them THEY should be doing. THEY should have set up that trap if they wanted to win so bad, not driving to meetings to plead a case. It's some fundamental disconnect with reality.

"We don't want people to think we're bad guys. We were complying."

Guess what pal? People think you are bad guys because most people are worthless and weak. They'll fall in line with whoever is stronger, nobody wants to follow some compliant loser. Do you see men buying t-shirts that say "I am compliant"? No, they'd love to be identified as some badass to seem like less of a pussy.

If the patriots seem invincible while taunting their enemies and issuing commands people want to be a part of that. If they sit in a cell whining they are innocent, nobody will be with them. Nobody want to be a stupid little victim afraid of bad names, they only follow alpha.

The trick is, make them more afraid of you than the real bad guys. Cultivate a badass winners reputation of guys who get the hottest chicks and know no fear.

"Those guys are terrible but you do not want to fuck with them. Did you hear what they did last week to those poor immigrants who were complying innocently? Oh it's awful. I hope they're not watching, they are everywhere.".

Incidentally this is also the way back into women's hearts.

"My bf is a 3%er" oooooooooohhh

Now you're getting warmer goy.

I more 'feel' what you're saying than understand it.


We are superfluous trash to the 'elite' who have won their positions by 'hook and crook'.

The ''women''!, ?

Who are the most successful breeders in the world now?

Aarabbs, hispanics.

They keep their women as slaves.

That works.

They are winning.

We don't want to do that.

Somebody or something has convinced women that millions of years of evolution are meaningless.

They lack a feeling of responsibility.
 

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I more 'feel' what you're saying than understand it.


We are superfluous trash to the 'elite' who have won their positions by 'hook and crook'.

The ''women''!, ?

Who are the most successful breeders in the world now?

Aarabbs, hispanics.

They keep their women as slaves.

That works.

They are winning.

We don't want to do that.

Somebody or something has convinced women that millions of years of evolution are meaningless.

They lack a feeling of responsibility.

White women often go with blacks because white men are pacifists and do not control the territory. They let blacks and the government beat them up and make the rules.

Women of nubile child bearing years like exciting, dominant bad asses, men like getting pussy. You want pussy? Be a bad ass who controls other men and controls your land. If men think they'll gain status by fighting, they'll fight.

Once this dynamic is used to regain control they are put back in the kitchen, wearing decent clothes, raising children and never again having a say in our nations. That is non-negotiable and they love it anyway. Women never wanted control, they wanted to be told "no". Women today are extremely unhappy because they were tricked by the jew to trade the rewards of motherhood for corporate drudgery, the cock carousel and finally, spinsterhood.

From valued members of a loving family, to being raped on the streets by Africans while other whites nervously pretend not to notice...

We are not "breeders" like bunny rabbits or muslim dogs, we are white humans who value our children. We do not shit low quality children from our asses to roam the streets hungry hoping a couple survive because we are too stupid to conceive anything else.

Civilized society is where people follow rules for the good of all, women will also follow rules, not just the men.

This is no longer civilized society until order is restored - the government defeated, minorities banished, our women and children once again safe and back in our care.
 
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Damn. I have to agree with a lot in this thread. It is not pleasant, but I can't argue. Damn.
 

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Well, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they capitulate.
I believe that's about where we are now with most of these establishment economists and political soothsayers.
My goodness, heaven help Glenn Beck's total melt down as he watches his status quo show on the skids.
The political winds have turned and are now blowing hard from the other direction and they all got caught with their sails down.
I guess Mr. North's drab view of Washington DC's landscape all depends on how strong this populism movement becomes.
To slap down a statement that so and so will be assassinated is so......predictable.
All individuals that have attempted any true change in government have encountered resistance and or attempted assassination or otherwise.
His attempt to relegate Trump's future presidency to "politics as usual" is sorely mistaken.
Anything could happen, of course, but if you are going to capitulate at least add to the movement, not pout that your status quo got spilled.
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Hopefully all those that can come to some form of acceptance can start thinking "out of the box" for solutions because once we all start looking forward this country has a bunch of work to do.
Trump 65% in NY
Predicted to pick up 25% of African American vote.
Unprecedented.
Change is coming, not just hope.
 
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Mr. North's analysis failed because he didn't explain why the the establish is hell-bent on keeping Trump out of office.

I lost at least 50K by following Mr. North's advice to pull my money out out of the stock market several months in late 1999 in anticipation of the Mr. North's predicted Y2K disaster, which turned out to be a non-event.

Gary North is a big time loser and I wish I had never heard of him.
 

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North hasn't lost money himself--just others. Reminds me of a local guy who hit it big with broadband companies but those who bought his stock went down while he got out before the downturn.
 

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You don't know exactly what will happen until it does. The problem with the entire electoral process is its all lip service. They may have some sort of political history, but as the saying goes history does not predict the future. Sure, trump may mostly be in a bind once he gets into office, but aren't we all? No one is truly free. That doesn't mean he is powerless. Trump knows how to deal, and he knows how to minimize his risk and losses. He ain't stupid. I bet his entire campaign at the very least is a big tax write off.
 

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You don't know exactly what will happen until it does. The problem with the entire electoral process is its all lip service. They may have some sort of political history, but as the saying goes history does not predict the future. Sure, trump may mostly be in a bind once he gets into office, but aren't we all? No one is truly free. That doesn't mean he is powerless. Trump knows how to deal, and he knows how to minimize his risk and losses. He ain't stupid. I bet his entire campaign at the very least is a big tax write off.
the last billionaire to run I'm sure he used the tax write off as well !
 

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What billionaire wouldn't be enjoying his wild ride? It would even probably be worth it if you take down the political establishment in the process then get gunned down by a crazed assassin and subsequently get regarded as a martyr for a just cause.
 

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What billionaire wouldn't be enjoying his wild ride? It would even probably be worth it if you take down the political establishment in the process then get gunned down by a crazed assassin and subsequently get regarded as a martyr for a just cause.


Krag, pardon my slight revision.
It would even probably be worth it if you take down the political establishment in the process then get gunned down by an establishment assassin and subsequently get regarded as a martyr for a just cause.
 

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What is the likely hood that the GOP does not pay for any of Trump's candidacy if he is the winner of the convention? Will Trump take their money or will he still be self financed?? Personally, he has run his mouth enough, I would have him pay his own way.
 

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What is the likely hood that the GOP does not pay for any of Trump's candidacy if he is the winner of the convention? Will Trump take their money or will he still be self financed?? Personally, he has run his mouth enough, I would have him pay his own way.

Rusty, he has yet to run his mouth enough, he is the ONLY candidate worth listening to.
The others are no more than establishment shills, that are hell bent to take us over the cliff that we are standing at.
 
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I turned him off weeks ago (years ago after the first episode of apprentice if you wan the truth). A loud mouth blow hard that offers little more then insults to his competition ain't my cup of tea especially one who's views on everything and I mean everything today are 180 degrees off from just a decade ago. People change, but not to the degree Donnie claims.
 

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The communist party has become so blatantly dominated by victim class zealots and collectivists that JFK would have to run as a repuke today. Even then he likely wouldn't be nominated, but would instead be Ron Pauled right out of public consciousness. TPTB wouldn't even have to shoot him today, they'd just assassinate his character and use their mockingbird media to erase him from their teevees.
 

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F JFK, whatever he was going to do he didn't do.

He started Nam, picked 'johnson' for vp, all Fucked Up.

And, a bad role model for young men.

'marry' a decent women then fuk around as much as you can.

That's the morals now?

That's ****** morals.
 

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He picked LBJ because it was the only way to win in the general election. It was extremely close and he needed to get votes from Texas. How do you know he was a bad role model? None of the dirt came out at the time and how do you know the "decent" wife wasn't ok with it? Your generalizations about morals are exactly what has gotten this country to this point where we sit today. Blame it on the "******" morals as you put it. Sure, but didn't you forget the other non-whites? Stewie can define them for you if your not sure what non-white means. Oh, but wait, what about the Jew morals, I thought that's what got us to where we are today?

Ideas like your are what have gotten us here. Symptom issues and no root causes. He didn't start Nam, the MIC did, recently released documents show that he wanted to pull out.

Apologize for him all you want.

History has proven him to be lacking in moral fiber.
 

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He picked LBJ because it was the only way to win in the general election. It was extremely close and he needed to get votes from Texas. LBJ carried Texas and it was required to win in the general.

How do you know he was a bad role model? None of the "dirt" came out at the time and how do you know the "decent" wife wasn't ok with it? Your generalizations about morals are exactly what has gotten this country to this point where we sit today. Blame it on the "******" morals as you put it. Sure, but didn't you forget the other non-whites? Stewie can define them for you if your not sure what non-white means. Oh, but wait, what about the Jew morals, I thought that's what got us to where we are today? Your post is a "division" tactic.

If you think you can fix things with a religion or with some collective definition about social norms and morality, then you better become a really strong dictator, because freedom and liberty don't arrive from some person's defined morals they arrive from personal responsibility. They're not the same thing.

Ideas like yours are what have gotten us here. Symptom issues and no root causes. He didn't start Nam, the MIC did, recently released documents show that he wanted to pull out.[/QUOT
He picked LBJ because it was the only way to win in the general election. It was extremely close and he needed to get votes from Texas. LBJ carried Texas and it was required to win in the general.

How do you know he was a bad role model? None of the "dirt" came out at the time and how do you know the "decent" wife wasn't ok with it? Your generalizations about morals are exactly what has gotten this country to this point where we sit today. Blame it on the "******" morals as you put it. Sure, but didn't you forget the other non-whites? Stewie can define them for you if your not sure what non-white means. Oh, but wait, what about the Jew morals, I thought that's what got us to where we are today? Your post is a "division" tactic.

If you think you can fix things with a religion or with some collective definition about social norms and morality, then you better become a really strong dictator, because freedom and liberty don't arrive from some person's defined morals they arrive from personal responsibility. They're not the same thing.

Ideas like yours are what have gotten us here. Symptom issues and no root causes. He didn't start Nam, the MIC did, recently released documents show that he wanted to pull out.


None of 'the dirt' came out at the time,, because the media owners where in the bag for the demoncrats way back then.

'Camalot'.....The Round Table?, Please
 

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Funnymoney, I largely agree with you. But the bedroom argument should stay in the bedroom. It is now out in the wide open and what so many want defined by. I will give B Clinton props for Don't Ask Don't Tell.
 

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Funnymoney, I largely agree with you. But the bedroom argument should stay in the bedroom. It is now out in the wide open and what so many want defined by. I will give B Clinton props for Don't Ask Don't Tell.

With Bill the sell out, the problem is that he brought his personal behavior into the office and into his work. He wasn't guiding the nation correctly either because of his personal issues or simply because he never intended to. But what do you expect from a career criminal? Criminals are rarely able to keep their personal lives separate from their business lives. But when they do, watch out, because that's when they rise to the top and become mafia bosses or dictators. At which point, they will sell out even their mother.
 

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I'm not making an apology. I only used the "dirt" word because you believe it to be "dirt" not because I agree that it is. I believe it to be none of my concern unless it impacts the nation's most important agendas.

We don't need you to tell us how to live our personal lives. This is not about personal relationships, color, race, religion or the morals which you would like to impose on the rest of an already very diverse nation. We're not going back to the days of the "white man" vs. the "red man." Get over that, because it was 300 years ago. Your post is nothing more than a "division" tactic.

You say "lacking in moral fiber" but that is your opinion only and is based on what goes on in the bedroom. What I want is personal responsibility and the "best interest" of the nation while they're at work. Those are the things which make a leader.


Big Blahh, say something substantial.

Refute anything.

Democrats have been in the forefrount of our demise for fifty years.
 

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Now it's the dems, I thought you said it was "nigga morals" that were responsible for our demise? Bush1 and Reagan had nothing to do with it? Most of the jobs that went overseas didn't start with them? Bush2 wasn't a problem either? I'm really confused now, can you tell us who caused this problem we're in. I know you don't like JFK because of his morals, but did he cause this? He was only in office for a very short time and his brother was shot prior to even getting there. Blaming the dems and "nigga morals" doesn't seem to be the root cause to me. But what do I know, so can you please tell us what you really believe? TIA


Of course bush and raygun had 'something to do with it.

This crap has been in the works for many years, since the late forties.

The monsters that caused WII took their winnings and moved to the USA.

Meanwhile they raped Russia and the Slavic countries.


Nigga morals is an oxymoron.

Kennedy thought he was bullet proof.

I hope Mr. Trump does not.

God Help Us.
 
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Today's Trump Death Threats on Twitter - For for the Record
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Published on Mar 25, 2016
Continuing to document the vicious hatred of liberals and their death threats and death wishes posted on social media aimed at Donald Trump, here's just a small sample of the latest so you can get the picture. All major social media services have been allowing such material to spread, but if you use too critical of language or quote certain passages from the Bible about certain liberal groups, then accounts are terminated for supposed "terms of service violation. Liberal hypocrisy has no end.
 

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Regarding Kennedy and morality/honor.

Like most people back then, I was dewy-eyed about Camelot. The ONLY news in 1960 was news that never, no-where, ever even hinted about any White House mis-moves. Even Marilyn, when she was done singing the sexiest Happy Birthday song in history... was spirited into a room wearing that dress that had only one way it could be taken off.

OK, that was just screwing. Jack screwed a blond Nazi spy (it's why he was sent to the farthest corner of the earth in a PT Boat). Let's not talk bumping uglies.

Let's talk flat out FELONY vote-tampering: The Chicago Fix. OH. First, I must point out just WHO would decide whether to investigate voter fraud in the election was: Some guy named Robert Kennedy.

"Kennedy won the state by 8,858 of 4.7 million votes. Mayor Daley was known for stuffing ballot boxes and giving ward bosses and precinct captains vote quotas.

"Two recounts of Chicago-area voting later showed that Democrats had likely stolen tens of thousands of votes for the Democratic ticket, including down-ballot races. Special prosecutor Wexler's report, issued in April 1961, found "substantial" miscounts in the 1,367 precincts it examined, including unqualified voters, misread voting machines and math mistakes. In one precinct, voters asked where to deposit tickets for drawing for hams. In another, a precinct captain handed out slips of paper entitling voters to free lunches. In many precincts, boarding house bums and vagrants were promised and given a shot of whiskey for a vote.

"There is substantial evidence that these fraudulent voters were shuttled from polling place to polling place and were "repeaters."

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Things worked out poorly for both of them. Don't fuck the Mob. The assassin/suicider IMO is Robert Kennedy. He got a totally inflated opinion of himself... and made a terrible error because of that ego.

First thing as AG, he "decided" the hoopla about several dozen precincts voting 100% or more Democratic in Illinois was not worth "investigating". (swing vote for Kennedy)

Then he screwed his own pooch (and his brother's): He went after Hoffa, who saw him as an effeminate rich kid.

There came a day, when right in front of the Commission, all the senators, the rolling cameras, and ME (I was watching it live on TV)...

Hoffa threatened Kennedy with absolute clarity when Hoffa's totally disrespectful answers had gotten under Kennedy's skin to the point where Kennedy said he would adjourn the meeting for the day:

Hoffa: "You won't adjourn the meeting. YOU WOULDN'T DARE TO CLOSE IT!" (emphasis to match the delivery)

Kennedy: "MEETING ADJOURNED! You will NOT tell a United States Senator what he can and cannot do!"

And he stormed out. The camera panned in on Hoffa -- this is burned into my memory -- I could SEE the utter loathing in Hoffa's face. And I thought: Kennedy might be in trouble.

He was.

I cannot find a film clip with that quote, but this short video is precious with the way Hoffa disrespects Bobby:

 

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Thus far, the Teflon Don has not only survived, but capitalized on, HOW MANY CHARACTER/POLITICAL ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS PER DAY?

The back story is the lack of SS response to all of the murder threats to the undisputed POTUS frontrunning challenger.

If someone tweets "Kill Barry or Lynch Hillary" the SS shows up on their doorstep post haste.

But it is OK to repeatedly threaten Trump's life without fear of repercussion?

There is an overt agenda in play, and for anyone paying attention, MSM and Social Media are playing a major role in these assassination attempts.


This is yet another reason that I think Trump is for real.

He is the enemy of my enemies, and they are legion.
 

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Regarding Kennedy and morality/honor.

Like most people back then, I was dewy-eyed about Camelot. The ONLY news in 1960 was news that never, no-where, ever even hinted about any White House mis-moves. Even Marilyn, when she was done singing the sexiest Happy Birthday song in history... was spirited into a room wearing that dress that had only one way it could be taken off.

OK, that was just screwing. Jack screwed a blond Nazi spy (it's why he was sent to the farthest corner of the earth in a PT Boat). Let's not talk bumping uglies.

Let's talk flat out FELONY vote-tampering: The Chicago Fix. OH. First, I must point out just WHO would decide whether to investigate voter fraud in the election was: Some guy named Robert Kennedy.

"Kennedy won the state by 8,858 of 4.7 million votes. Mayor Daley was known for stuffing ballot boxes and giving ward bosses and precinct captains vote quotas.

"Two recounts of Chicago-area voting later showed that Democrats had likely stolen tens of thousands of votes for the Democratic ticket, including down-ballot races. Special prosecutor Wexler's report, issued in April 1961, found "substantial" miscounts in the 1,367 precincts it examined, including unqualified voters, misread voting machines and math mistakes. In one precinct, voters asked where to deposit tickets for drawing for hams. In another, a precinct captain handed out slips of paper entitling voters to free lunches. In many precincts, boarding house bums and vagrants were promised and given a shot of whiskey for a vote.

"There is substantial evidence that these fraudulent voters were shuttled from polling place to polling place and were "repeaters."

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Things worked out poorly for both of them. Don't fuck the Mob. The assassin/suicider IMO is Robert Kennedy. He got a totally inflated opinion of himself... and made a terrible error because of that ego.

First thing as AG, he "decided" the hoopla about several dozen precincts voting 100% or more Democratic in Illinois was not worth "investigating". (swing vote for Kennedy)

Then he screwed his own pooch (and his brother's): He went after Hoffa, who saw him as an effeminate rich kid.

There came a day, when right in front of the Commission, all the senators, the rolling cameras, and ME (I was watching it live on TV)...

Hoffa threatened Kennedy with absolute clarity when Hoffa's totally disrespectful answers had gotten under Kennedy's skin to the point where Kennedy said he would adjourn the meeting for the day:

Hoffa: "You won't adjourn the meeting. YOU WOULDN'T DARE TO CLOSE IT!" (emphasis to match the delivery)

Kennedy: "MEETING ADJOURNED! You will NOT tell a United States Senator what he can and cannot do!"

And he stormed out. The camera panned in on Hoffa -- this is burned into my memory -- I could SEE the utter loathing in Hoffa's face. And I thought: Kennedy might be in trouble.

He was.

I cannot find a film clip with that quote, but this short video is precious with the way Hoffa disrespects Bobby:



There's a lot of stuff there that needs the light of day.
 

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There's a lot of stuff there that needs the light of day.

Yer right, bro.

NONE of what I posted is "conspiracy theory" shit. It is 100% verifiable to anyone with connection to the Internet to bother to look up each and every fact.

FYI, Joe Kennedy Jr. was being set up to become the first Catholic president. Jack got his aristocratic ass in a sling when, as a Naval Intelligence Officer, he was nailed nailing a Nazi spy (Inga Arvad -- a confidant of Hitler, Goebbels, and Field Marshal Goering). That's her below in the still from the video. She was hawt, most ricky-tick.

This was hushed up (back then, the MSM followed orders no matter what) but documented. <-- J. Edgar Hoover had the Kennedys by the scrotes.

It would totally screw up Joe Jr.'s chances forever if his horn-toad younger brother's stark idiocy went on... so JFK was sent to Saturn's moons.

That people are unaware of how the Kennedy family stole that election, is a sad thing.

This is just a short intro... but I betcha NOBODY here knows who else JFK furgled in the Lincoln Bedroom... and I betcha EVERYBODY here will be surprised:

 
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"Establishment wants to Assassinate Trump" | Wayne Allyn Root
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Teen Thugs Threaten to Kill Donald Trump in Amateur Rap Video
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Published on Mar 28, 2016
A group of black teens posted a music video threatening to shoot Donald Trump in what they're calling the "Fuck Trump Anthem" as they march down the street carrying baseball bats and shovels. Clearly these kids have been influenced by mainstream gangster rap artists like Rick Ross and others who have called for the murder of Donald Trump. Media analyst Mark Dice shows you some clips from their disturbing video, and decodes their ghetto talk. Song by DooleyFunny, Tlow, and Lor Roger - CIT4DT.
 

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Teens Threaten to KILL DONALD TRUMP in Amateur Rap Video - UPDATE Leader's Friend Charged w/ Murder
Mark Dice


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The "Kill Donald Trump" aka Fuck Donald Trump Anthem rap song aka Chopper in the Trunk for Donald Trump - CIT4DT, was produced by American Muslim Abdel Ibrahim aka DooleyFunny, whose good friend Tyshawn Francis was charged with first-degree murder and is currently serving time in prison. Other thugs appearing in the video, calling for the assassination of Donald Trump are Tlow, and Lor Roger, who all live in Baltimore, Maryland. The upload on Dat Terance TV is a freeboot re-upload of Abdel Ibrahim's video, and has nothing to do with the production.