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#1 ·
Is this new or something you all are familiar with? Gimmick or what? 125gr just to be different? It’s more than twice what any other 124fmj would cost?
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And why do they refer to the mags for these guns and others similar by mm instead of round capacity? 126mm and not 21rnd or whatever it takes?
 
#2 ·
It's Hornady Action Pistol projectiles, and I'm fairly certain loaded by Longhorn Ammunition. I believe Staccato acquired them, or bought into a partnership.
My XC test target was shot with it, and it's one ragged hole. My intention is to get a box or two and then disect and replicate the load.
 
#3 ·
IMO it is absolutely not worth the extra cost. Staccato acquired Longhorn, and it is being produced at Staccato's factory in Florence Tx now. I like to support local businesses as much as the next guy but I am not paying extra for a name on ammo.

As for the Staccato test targets, they are always one ragged hole, which is nice, except it is shot at like 5 or 7 yards, and is more of a function and general accuracy check than a true accuracy test. Certainly nothing to get excited about in terms of the ammo used.

As for 2011 magazines, they use MM instead of capacity because despite the fixed tube lengths in the 2011 world a variety of spring and follower combinations can make for different capacities. I have 140mm mags that hold everything between 20 and 23 rounds depending on the guts.
 
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#6 ·
Definitely not worth it. If these are intended to be defensive ammo (which it doesn’t seem like it is), would need to see ballistic testing that shows it’s on par with other popular / effective defensive loads.

For range ammo, definitely not paying 2x the price of most other factory brass 9mm. When you can get blazer brass 124gr and PMC 124gr for 26cpr and 28cpr respectively that tend to run pretty reliably and reasonably accurately, I don’t see the point here.

7.62 said:
And why do they refer to the mags for these guns and others similar by mm instead of round capacity? 126mm and not 21rnd or whatever it takes?
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Stems from the competition side, and the origins of the 2011 as a competition platform. USPSA (and other division rules) stipulate maximum length of magazine allowed, hence why it’s described that way. For example, my MBX 140mm mags hold 24 rounds (without lockback), but are the same length as the factory Staccato 21 round magazine.
 
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#8 ·
whan said:
Definitely not worth it. If these are intended to be defensive ammo (which it doesn’t seem like it is), would need to see ballistic testing that shows it’s on par with other popular / effective defensive loads.

For range ammo, definitely not paying 2x the price of most other factory brass 9mm. When you can get blazer brass 124gr and PMC 124gr for 26cpr and 28cpr respectively that tend to run pretty reliably and reasonably accurately, I don’t see the point here.



Stems from the competition side, and the origins of the 2011 as a competition platform. USPSA (and other division rules) stipulate maximum length of magazine allowed, hence why it’s described that way. For example, my MBX 140mm mags hold 24 rounds (without lockback), but are the same length as the factory Staccato 21 round magazine.
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This. Mostly a gimmick, although they're probably trying to tune ammo performance for pf in competition. IPSC and USPSA rules dictate the length of the mag in mm not how many rounds it can hold.
 
J
#7 ·
Hey, you have a gun costing $2500-$4300, don't you think it deserves the Good Stuff?

Wilson has their own brand of ammo, too.
Wilson 9mms loaded with 125 gr HAP bullets are $479.95 for 500.

The HAP bullet is a hollowpoint because that gives a cleaner base and a better center of gravity. It will likely be more accurate than FMJ econoball... if the gun and shooter are good enough to show it. It lacks the expansion increasing jacket slits of XTP hollowpoints.

As said, USPSA and IPSC regulate magazines by length, not capacity in most Divisions.
 
#9 · (Edited)
I agree with others who have said don't get that ammo unless you have some external requirement to do so. I shoot pretty much any name brand ammo (Blazer, S&B, NORMA, PMC, Magtech, etc.) as long as price is less than 30¢ per round. Applies to my STI, Staccatos, Walther PDP, Glocks, etc.

For defensive rounds, it's Federal HST LE 9 mm and Double Tap for 10mm.
 
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