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Hello all,
I just got terminated from my job today. Without giving too much PII out, I was IT Technician (both in person and using remote software) and got let go 11 weeks in during my probationary period. This is my 2nd IT job but my 1st job in an office environment (Had access to AD, SCCM, etc).
I was let go because of "communication" reasons. I asked what was wrong with my communication but HR refused to tell me the exact communication reason. Honestly, I felt blindsided, I was not expecting this. Was it over an email or something I said verbally that rubbed someone the wrong way? who knows. I don't think it was a lack of communication though. The most frustrating thing is not getting feedback on what was wrong with my communication despite asking for it. No feedback is the most frustrating thing, and I am sure you guys can relate to no feedback when it comes to applying for jobs.
I guess the lesson learned is to watch what you say (both verbal and especially written) and to trust nobody (especially when you are new). The hardest part now going forward is I have had 3 jobs in one year (two IT jobs and one job unrelated to IT) which will make it harder for me to land an interview because of my unstable work history.
I am staying positive though! I think my 8 months of experience in IT and my CompTIA A+ will get me another shot with another company. Any helpful advice is appreciated.
To make a jump to termination is super strange. I feel like there was a different reason. It's crazy how communication was the reason but HR won't communicate the issue to you. Is someone gonna fire the HR people...
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I agree. Getting terminated during probation usually means they are not considered “fit”. Seen this happens all the time at my old place.
Claiming “communication” is an open-ended way of saying “we don’t want you, it’s not you, it’s us, but still we don’t want you”. I would be surprised if it’s actually communication at all.
It isn’t HRs job to explain things during a termination. Only to provide details about off boarding.
Generally, from a CYA perspective, a manager would have already discussed these issues and documented them at some point during the probationary period. It could just be that OP missed that feedback, or the gap was so wide that it was easier to let OP go. Discussing issues during a termination opens the door to argument and emotional escalation, which is the very last thing anyone should want in that situation.
Terminations suck for everyone and I’ve never met a professional that felt good about it, people know that they’re having a massive impact on the persons ability to buy food and pay rent.
Eleven weeks? Would you feel comfortable calling it three months? As in: the job was a three month contract which ended. You are now seeking another IT position.
On paper, it looks like I worked there for three months. I do not think lying and saying I was a contract worker would work. A background check checking previous places of employment would show I was an employee there and not a contract worker.
You can tell any prospective employers that there was a probationary period and they decided not to keep you -- that much is honest. It is unlikely there is some negative reason on file there -- probation things like this are basically a reset button. So don't worry about people calling the previous employer to overly verify -- in most states they cannot ask many deep questions legally and the few that do are usually only able to ask if they had cause to not hire you again which in this case they probably wouldn't have cause to say no. That is the point of letting someone go during probation -- it could be for tons of reasons but the truth ultimately is that they decided to keep looking after trying you out. It doesn't necesarily mean your performance was a problem and it can be stated as such, basically "at the end of the probation period they decided they wanted to go in a different direction" and then you know if they ask if there were issues...as far as you were told, there weren't.
I'd stress that it was on the table as a possibility. You could always frame it as just not being a fit with the established personalities on the team. You could also always just cite one of your weaker areas and say they were looking for someone with more experience in XYZ (and spin it by adding that you have started to work on building that skillet).
I had similar difficulty in my employment history and if I'm being honest it was rarely looked into as long as you give off the right vibe that you weren't fired over something problematic. This corporate speak language works well to convey that -- "the team didn't synergize well" "my role had some redundancies and they phased it out" "the team is still in flux post pandemic" I mean there are a ton of things you can say that will make it sound amicable. That's the key -- you weren't FIRED they just opted not to keep you, and that is not the same thing.
So make damn sure you don't say you were fired, because that is not true. And phrase it more positively/diplomatically -- after all they kept you the whole three months. It is unlikely they had any serious problem with your work, it could have been behind the scenes things with the team or funding or a million other things. If you were doing a truly bad job they wouldnt have waited -- so they tells me if nothing else, it was likely a split decision they struggled with.
I'm sorry this happened to you. I'd hop on LinkedIn and see if you connect with some people you worked with, it's a good space to get headhunted and a few recommendations or good connections go a long way.
Don't be discouraged, no matter what. This is the journey. Move forward.
This. We hire contact workers who were great and has intentions to keep, but changes in the market and we couldn’t keep them on.
All the background check can ask for is your start and stop dates. That is all. They cannot tell the investigator why you left, or if you are rehirable.
Right. If I lied and said I was still employed or falsified employment dates, say goodbye to the conditional job offer.
I worked in payroll where we did verifications for huge institution. I would hear these all day long next to my cube. Lying seemed to common place on loan/work applications. Being off on work dates by 2-3 months is something that could easily be dismissed as insignificant, in this context.
I always felt suspicious of this b/c there's no way for me to know whether or not that that was the only question being asked
Not all jobs look at your job history yo in depth. I know some who lied on there whole job history time table and still got the job. They mostly asked about her background check and drug test.
My first IT job did ask for my paystubs from my previous places of employment as part of the vetting process. Yeah, you are right though, not all companies want to shell out the money for an extensive background check.
You showed them pay stubs? You 100% got under paid doing that, bevause they knew you would take anything with a higher pay, even by a dollar or two. NEVER show paystubs.
Wildly inappropriate and horrible HR practices. You should be glad you got out of there when you did.
You can say no.
They often ask for paystub when you checked the box ‘No’ to contact ur current or previous employer. If not, I don’t think they should, especially if you hv accepted to contact ur current/previous employer.
Potential employers should not be given prior paystubs. This can be seen as a means for you not to negotiate a higher salary. This happened to a young associate at my current job. In return for showing her previous pay stubs, she was low balled $5 less than the entry level for her position. She had recourse (union) but chose not to use them. This would not have been the case for me, because 1 year of back pay and a pay increase would have been well worth it to see the look on the face of that manager.
What you SAY during an interview and what comes up on the background check are different. There will be no discrepancy between during your conversations SAYING your last job was a contract. They're just going to verify dates
Bingo
11 weeks is not 12 weeks.
A contractor can't bet on the 3 month rule. Shit, I've been on jobs back in the day where you're a contractor until you're not one anymore.
In a machine shop, it's according to your attendance and performance. If by a few months, you aren't building and producing parts that are passing QA because of random absences, you won't be there long anyway since you're not putting out required numbers.
An old shop supe: "Why isn't that machine running?"
Unless you got a warning, they had to cut someone and used "Communication" as an excuse.
It could have been political in nature to reduce headcount.
reducing headcount is rarely political
but if you were talking politics at work that could be your communication issues
Needing to reduce headcount is not political. The choice of who is laid off is often political,
I always remained PC because I know anyone can send a passive-aggressive email to a person that is in a position of power (like my boss).
You can file for unemployment benefits since they're legally required to give a reason for why they fired you. If you get fired after 30 days, companies are legally required to provide an explanation. Go to the unemployment office ASAP and explain your suspicions about political motivations.
OP, be selective with your work history. You aren't under any obligation to give prospective employers your total work history, just don't tell too bad of a lie. You can say you were taking a break from work for a certain period, instead of reporting that you worked at a company during that period.
You don't need to necessarily say they left you go either. "We both decided it wasn't a fit" is a perfectly valid answer here.
I'd also be comfortable saying "laid off" even if that isn't technically true
Depends upon employer and terms/policy. That could get you instafired, kill your shot with them, or not only that, but get you blacklisted forever with them. Or, ... about none of that. Quite depends upon the employer.
Low risk high reward
That is usually why I have 2 jobs. one as an as needed worker (prn) and my full scale. I can always opt out of not reporting the job I left, and report the one I still at.
1000%
Might also be good for OP to claim he was working on short term contracts as a temp rather than full time positions
Sorry to hear. Believe it or not 'Communication' is feedback its just not elaborate. If you really want to reflect on it and to try to improve you are ahead of most. Think about not just what you say but how you say it, how often and to whom. Documentation is another form of communication. One of the early lessons I learned in IT was it's not just about taking care of technology its about helping people.
General rules for good communications in tech:
Be nice and friendly
Be specific and consistent.
When encountering a new problem likely to be repeated, create documentation be it an FAQ or full guide.
When working on a problem, project, or ticket - document contact attempts, bullet point work done, outstanding issues.
When you run into trouble, reach out for assistance. Don't be afraid to ask questions
Remember taking notes is never a bad thing.
Thank you for the wise word of advice.
As someone who just went through the hiring process for new techs, let me give you some advice.
First off, HR is not going to give you a valid reason for firing you. Everything they say after "communication" is ammo for you to sue. Go get unemployment and start job hunting. If you want a reason why, odds are your position was never supposed to be permanent or some internal politics was at play and they dropped the new guy. I highly doubt you did anything wrong because you would of had a very different meeting with HR if that were the case, they would have come at you with documentation if that were the case.
Secondly, fix up your resume. Hiring staff can read through BS so do not lie, if your next interview is with a company like mine, we will call you out on the things we find odd. The rule of thumb for me is "Embelish, but don't lie". I handle transactions for a multi billion dollar company looks way better then I was a cashier at McDonalds. I'll be honest, 8 months and 3 jobs in that time frame doesn't look great, but you can spin it in a more favorable direction. Don't list reasons for leaving in the resume, leave that part up to the potential interviewers imagination. I see that and I assume short term contract rather then quits fast or fired easily.
If you have more questions or need some advice, shoot me a dm. I have a good chunk of experience on both sides of the interview.
Thank you for the advice. It was three jobs over a 12-month period just an FYI so it does not look as bad as 3 jobs in 8 months. I may take up your offer and send a dm!
Since this job was brief and you were let go in the probationary period it is also perfectly valid to simply leave it out. But over time the employment gap looks worse than the whole probation period departure thing.
And they wonder why some I.T. techs are anti-social. Never trust anyone, & move on. This crap happens to many. It sucks & you're not alone.
I actually have bartending experience so I am on the opposite side of the spectrum when it comes to interpersonal skills. I guess being extroverted and saying too much leads to more opportunities for termination.
You're a former bartender so I'm sure you have much better social skills than average, but you may need to read the room a bit...if you were a geeky introvert your whole life I would have assumed you were rude/short and/or very blunt either in emails or voice communications, which I don't think that's case (especially after reading how you write on reddit as well).
I'm thinking maybe it was like, getting too jokey? Like I make jokes with my some of my millennial/Gen-X colleagues that I wouldn't make around Gen-Z or Boomers, and definitely avoid getting too jokey with people I don't know.
This was my first job working in an office environment so I was inexperienced with socializing in an office environment. Some of the stuff I could say working behind the bar would cause HR problems if I said the same thing in an office environment.
This makes me mad.
Terminated for poor communication.
"Reason? Oh, we can't communicate that."
They're probably covering their asses from having to pay toward your unemployment if they lay you off.
Fuck man, thats the worse. Seems like the people most deserving of unemployment dont get it. You would think that documentation would be needed to deny unemployment. The people who dont deserve unemployment are people who dont show up, violate common sense rules, and people who literally do nothing all day.
Not true. Lawsuits are the issue.
They likely wouldn't have to pay any unemployment as he was released during his probationary period for reasons that are (ostensibly) his fault. In other words, he was terminated with cause. Unless where he lives REALLY hates businesses, the law will say that they're not going to have to pay unemployment in that case.
Basically the same thing happened to me at my first IT gig. It was an arts school NYC. Turns out the sysadmin really didn’t like me. Him and his assistant were a little echo-chamber and people would always go along to get along.
The point of my story is it is 100% a different reason and you don’t really need their feedback. It wasn’t a good fit. That’s all you’ll get sometimes and it’s maddening.
You’re good. My A+ has served me well.
The sysadmin was a napoleonic douche bag though.
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You aren't the first person to be fired and you won't be the last. As a former manager, if you weren't told the specific reason you were terminated, that is on them. Clear and candid communication matters and if they wanted you to improve, they would have done it.
All this being said, there is a valuable lesson learned here. You really should look back upon this situation and learn from it. Was it something you said? Was it an email you typed? Were you an asshole in a situation or two? That is something you should think back on and make adjustments.
Organizations don't fire people for no reason whatsoever. Whenever I read a lot of posts on Reddit when someone got fired, its a pile on to bitch about the horrible employer. While that is true in many cases, there are also employees that are not good fits for certain organizations.
You have 8 months of total experience between two jobs now. One job you were at for only 5 months and then this one for 3. Why is that? Did you have communication issues there as well? If so, there could be a trend here that you have to fix.
Don't think I am picking on you here. Everyone has things they can work on. Myself included.
Apply for unemployment. Don't stay down on yourself for too long. Update your resume on Tuesday and treat your new job search as your full time job.
I am already updating my resume as we speak. Hey man, I take constructive criticism quite well so I do appreciate your advice.
I was only at the first IT job to get experience to get a better job. I worked odd hours, the pay was not a living wage, and the working conditions were just straight-up terrible. The work culture in the first job involved working off the clock (hourly employee) or you get terminated for not getting enough work done. It was a very toxic work culture where my previous boss verbally expressed that he would fire half of us if he just hired us for "looks." I did learn a ton of IT though so I am grateful for that!
I had every intention of staying at the office IT job for the long haul because I was fairly compensated and it was not a toxic work culture. Unfortunately, on paper, I look like a job hopper and that is something I have to live with.
I got fired back in November for Culture, i know how you're feeling.
Where do you live? Willing to move to Norcross, GA for an IT job? Write to me here.
Personally, I would include the IT related jobs on my resume and not the other one if I was in your situation. You can be selective when choosing what to add and what to leave out of your resume. Always embellish your experience. The rule of thumb is if you feel guilty you are lying and should correct your resume. If you don’t, it’s probably fine!
It sounds as if you have worked for a few toxic companies in the past. IT can be a very toxic career dependant on what employer you work for. My last position lasted six months and was hell. It was a family run business and the family was bat shit crazy and passive aggressive. I would spend the next little while upskilling and improving your resume. Network on LinkedIn and reach out to as many people as you can. Select your next employer based on their company culture.
I will never work for another toxic employer again. If you’re fired in the first few months HR will use any reason whether it is legit or not. They don’t care. In my experience everyone I’ve ever spoken to in HR has been a scum bag. If someone ‘up top’ didn’t like you for any reason at all you’d just be terminated and they’ll rehire. Check their Glassdoor reviews to see if it’s a reoccurring theme.
Good luck in your journey, if you have any questions or need help with anything DM me!
Sounds painfully similar to what happened to me a few months ago. My new strategy is to be very selective about anything I say or type at my next job. No more small talk or chitchat. If it's not directly related to work, I have nothing to say about it.
Yeah, I did talk a lot about my personal life. Probably too much and it could have affected my job status in the company. My desk was in a closed-off environment where not everyone can hear like in an open concept cubicle environment. I did put a lot of trust in my co-worker. I do not think he sent a passive-aggressive email though. This was my first office job and it was quite the transition working in a professional environment. At least I did not get terminated the first week though so I did improve my soft skill of professionalism over the course of my tenure there.
I mean, some talk about your personal life is ok. Did you say you were planting heirloom tomatoes in your back yard, or did you say you punched a cop at the Jan 6 insurrection and said the N-word? Obviously you should expect different results for those two examples.
Congratulations on your newfound freedom!
Maybe, ... maybe not. They may not necessarily tell you the truth.
And ... perception is ... what, 90% of reality? Well, how you're perceived does matter.
Uhm, ... who's having communication issues?
Don't believe everything you think.
Uhm, ... is there a pattern here?
One can well be a one-off. Three ... not so likely to be random or uncorrelated. So, what is going on? And remember, don't believe everything you think.
Moved to a new city 12 months ago but it follows:
4 months bartender (voluntarily quit to pursue an industry change, big mistake imo)
5 months entry-level IT (got my experience with less than ideal working conditions and voluntarily left after accepting another position).
3 months (office and professional job, involuntarily terminated)
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You know. Some time if one door close it’s mean another door open for you. Keep move on!
Fuck 'em and chive on.
That sort of communication to HR would get me fired lol
No I meant walk away. Sounds like one of two scenarios.
Someone in the company don't like you and this is their reason to shove you out. Or HR don't want to get into a legal tangle.
Move on.
Idk about you, but stick me in a closet and leave me the fuck alone and I will be happy. Maybe give me a window to watch squirrels.
You got this job, you’ll get another one, probably easily.
Don’t let them get in your head. If you know your shit, the money will find its way to you. Keep getting better.
Getting the interview for me will be the hard part because of my unstable job history over the past 12 months. The interview for me is usually the easy part.
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I don't think this will be as large of a problem for you as you think. In the IT industry in general it's very common for people to do short contract stints, sometimes several per year. So it really won't look too out of place on your resume.
Nothing unstable. Gainfully employed for 12 months seems stable to me. Just as many have stayed here though, adapting to a professional environment is not easy. Being "yourself" is not encouraged. But you can still be your own person while adapting to the culture of your environment. Don't be "that guy/girl" and not know it. Read the room. Essentially fake it till you make it.
I hope everyone uses this as a learning experience
Temp or full time I would recommend you go to your supervisor or manager and ask for written feedback every end of week. Ask what you can do better. Be able to take constructive criticism and correct what they come back with. Next session ask if you are doing better and what can you work on - rinse repeat.
I don't know OPs story and it sounds like he got blindsided but working on the other side as manager/team lead all it takes is unknowingly rubbing a higher up wrong and its over.
Remember that it's not what you give people, it's what they think they got.
If someone is having a prolonged issue that you are working make sure you communicate daily and let them know you are working on it and what you've found out so far and what steps you are taking next.
The technically most proficient person on our team got let go about 5 years ago all because he was terrible at communicating and following up on very jugular projects. PMs were having to email him to get the status from him - he was working it but failed to relay. The first RIF and he was on the chopping block.
If this company truly had a position open they don't want to invest 3 months of training and getting someone up to speed only to let them go. Think of it from the other side. It's not a power trip. When we have slots to fill we want them filled and interviewing and onboarding more people is absolutely an time sinkhole. If the position was going away or they needed to make room for some other reason then they would just use any excuse like communication but it really doesn't matter at that point.
So keep your head up and fail forward. You will be fine and something better will come along.
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I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet but you could combine the time of the 2 IT jobs as 1. Maybe others can elaborate more.
This would not pass a pre-employment background check if the company checks for previous places of employment after the conditional job offer is made.
You can leave off the 11 week job. If they ask about the small gap you can say you were moving/freelancing/consulting/taking a break or whatever. No one needs to know every job you’ve ever worked at.
Hell I left off a job I was at for 5 months and still had multiple job offers come through and not one of those companies asked about the 5 month gap on my resume.
Get on unemployment. They cant just tell a judge "communication" was the issue without evidence in case they want to fight you.
Hey there, I'm not going to say anything technical or overly helpful, but I will tell you that this sounds like the smallest speed bump you're going to have in the journey of life and I think you should stop worrying! Seems like you have a lot to offer and organizations understand that administration can be shitty too.
For all you know the VP's nephew needed a new job. "Communication" as the reason isn't even enough for you to stress about because you already stated that you never said anything egregious, and since they won't give any other reason I think you should put this place completely out of your mind. Best of luck moving forward!
My work history is pretty bad. I made money online for like 6 years pretty successfully and didn’t need a job. Then things dried up while I was in college and my online business fizzled out. So I just put down that I was a freelancer for those 6 years. (Which is true)
I had a warehouse job for 6 months that I was working and resigned last week after I landed an imaging job last Monday. Worked 4 days and got laid off because of “decreased business volume.” (I was hired as a temp)
So now I’m out of my stable job, and my new IT “career” lays me off in 4 days. I was only at the warehouse for like 6 months so now I have 6 years of self employment, 6 months at warehouse, and a 4 day IT career…smh.
However, I am still landing tons of interviews because I graduated last month. I personally think you probably said something wrong to a client or you possibly have a particular disposition that you could be unaware of when you interact with others.
I know I personally am very sensitive to certain people’s demeanor/energy. I’m not the type to try and get anyone fired, but if some don’t vibe with you and they are the rotten type, I can see them trying to do so.
Like others have said, I’d be extremely mindful of my interactions with others moving forward - both clients and co-workers.
Good luck finding your next gig BTW. You’ll have something new before the end of September if you’re putting out enough resumes!
Don’t think about it. If they just fired you without just reason like not doing your work properly then you did nothing wrong. It was your probation, the company be like a dick, but they can do it
Damn it's illegal in my country to even motion to fire someone without providing a list of specific reasons and examples.
Employment is at will in most states. A company can fire you if you are wearing a pink shirt if they wanted and it would be perfectly legal. US labor laws heavily favor businesses. There is a reason why Amazon workers are trying to unionize, to prevent situations like what happened to me.
I had a job like this. I was hired on, they were a hugely nepotism shop - so I'm wondering if someone in the family wanted to try their hand at IT. I was told my second week that I needed to focus on certain projects so I did and they sent the other guy on vacation. Well they didn't want to give me any credentials to anything of use so while the guy was on vacation most of the requests I got were "Well I don't have access to that". They also wanted me to image some computers for people but then didn't show me where or how they did. I still to this day have no idea if they were manually doing it, had a pxe boot somewhere, or how they expected me to know. But damn if I didn't. They knew I was a sysadmin but the job ended up being a more helpdesk role. Which was funny because the only other IT guy knew much much less than I did. Was a blessing I guess.
Count yourself lucky that you found out they're a bad employer early and not after you'd invested a bunch of time in them. You'll get something better I'm sure. Chin up!
If you find your job history to be difficult in your future, state that they were contract positions. Makes it a bit easier for yourself
Apply for unemployment you absolutely qualify that is not a valid firing to deny it.
I feel for you comrade, I recently went through a similar situation. I graduated in January of this year with my second degree, and spent four months struggling to find a job before I was finally able to get one through TekSystems as a contractor. I had been working through contract for a company for about four months as a TSA but was told to assist the deployment team that day so that we could maybe get this massive list of stuff completed by an ultimately unrealistic deadline.
I was told to use these makeshift plastic washers in order to secure the wire of an antenna when lined through this other makeshift PVC “antenna extender”. The hole in plastic washers wasn’t large enough to fit the wire from the antenna, so I decided to use a utility knife to widen the hole a little bit and the utility knife ended up slipping due to some protective oil coating the use on the blades to prevent deterioration, stabbing me directly in the center of my hand.
Avoiding all of the gory details, the laceration ended up severing the nerve of my ring finger and left me with a gaping hole in my hand. I can still move my ring finger, but all feeling in the finger is completely gone with little hope for any recovery from the nerve damage. My boss, who I previously thought was one of the nicest and reasonable bosses I’ve had, assured me that this would not impact my status at the company in any way but not to come back until I was able to work without restrictions, which was reasonable.
Fast forward two weeks later, it’s late afternoon on a Friday and I’ve been cleared to return to work without restrictions the following Monday. I receive a phone call from the person who handles my contract telling me that the company I had been working has terminated my contract because my injury was a result of my “poor judgement” and that keeping me as an employee was a safety hazard. I was totally blindsided by this because I had been praised very frequently for how good I was at my job, as well as going above and beyond to help our network admin snd sys admin with stuff in my down time (I was fairly over qualified for the position I had been working), and had even received multiple raises in the short amount of time. I hadn’t even been working there for a month when I was told they already agreed on making me a full time employee when my contract had been completed.
Our small IT team was a very close-knit group of people and we all got along extremely well, which I guess gave me a sense of security and loyalty as an employee, but that was clearly misplaced seeing now how disposable I really was. So now I’m back to being unemployed, back to struggling to find a decent job, but now I can’t feel my ring finger.
Sorry for the rant, it’s been a tough few weeks. Keep staying positive, and don’t be afraid to apply for those positions that you may not technically meet the preferred qualifications for. Always put emphasis on your willingness to learn, and you’ll land a job in no time!
I got bounced out of a job in my desktop support job, many years ago, because I pointed out to an executive secretary that the issue she was furiously blaming on IT was her own fault.
I learned to play dumb after that. I stopped trying to help users understand why something they were doing was causing the problem.
Since HR won't tell you the actual reason, I'm inclined to think that there was no reason and they needed an excuse to offboard you. It is good practice for the manager to have 1-1s with his direct reports, and if someone is not doing a good job, the manager should communicate what the issues are. The fact that none of this was done, tells me they needed to downsize.
Ask yourself this question. Was there anything you did during your 11 weeks that would suggest a termination? If you are honest with yourself, and you can't find anything, you were let go for reasons outside of your control, such as downsizing, or hiring the bosses son, etc.
Honestly, man, I was pretty pissed about it last night. Bitching and moaning about it isn't going to solve my problem. I updated and polished my resume. I pumped out like 25 applications and loaded every single application into an excel spreadsheet and took detailed notes (salary, location, other stuff). Two of the jobs asked me what salary I wanted (hate that shit) so I had to notate that.
I am done with applications for this weekend. I have to wait until Tuesday to find out if I get any callbacks before I put more time investment into applications.
I mean... you seem to be communicating perfectly fine and with decent grammatical syntax from what I'm looking at, so I'm not 100 percent sure what they mean lol
But yeah, I have a personal policy. I try my hardest to keep my work life separate from my home life. Can't trust anyone until a certain point. I definitely don't spend much time talking about my life or anything personal at work until I have a very established relationship with who I'm communicating with. Like, on the minimum, 1+ year if not more.
Appreciate the advice and I made a mental note.
I've worked in some pretty bad places. Sometimes workers can feel very threatened by the new employee. Especially if that new employee has the gift of gab, and they don't. If that new employee is friendly, sociable, positive, upbeat, etc. That new employee isn't doing anything wrong, but somehow is making all of the other workers feel more miserable about their lives. Of course the complaints will come masked as work complaints when they're not work related in nature. Can this be your situation?
Did you make friends with your boss or college’s? If so, ask them what happened? If not, that’s probably the reason.
No one can do IT on an island. Learn how to make friends. Learn a lesson (any at this point) and move on. I’ve been fired more times than I’ve quit and I’d like to think I’m successful now.
So about the three jobs in one year, just lie, or don't, but I would just lie...
$20 says it’s nothing to do w you. The boss’s kid/nephew/stepkid needs a job. So, you’re out.
This is exactly what is happening where I am at now. Gotta keep the fam happy and pockets lined! It’s messed up!
If you're in the USA you could look at airforce or Navy for IT work.