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UCLA Taser Incident

Posted in Uncategorized by pugilist on November 21, 2006

The Infamous UCLA-Taser Incident (YouTube)

Ok, lets start off with this one since it’s getting a lot of media attention right now.

First of all, if you weren’t one of the officers involved, the suspect, or an eyewitness who saw the whole thing from beginning to end then you have NO business saying what should or should not have happened, or who’s wrong and why. You don’t know all the circumstances, and that video of the event is really horrible as far as deriving solid facts goes–you can’t actually SEE (literally) what is going on the entire time, you hear a lot of stuff (much of which is muffled by lots of people yelling) but you can’t really tell what’s going on.

Second of all, people seriously overrate what a Taser is capable of: it’s a long range stun gun, that’s it. It is a less-than-lethal weapon that is low on the

    force continuum

due to it’s very low likelihood of causing serious injury or death. Notice I said it was very unlikely to cause serious injury or death, not impossible. This really isn’t important, because technically there is no ‘non-lethal’ weapon, although people call them that. The professional term used by LE (Law Enforcement, and a LEO is a Law Enforcement Officer, FYI) is ‘less than lethal’, and the reason is that just about anything can cause serious injury or death–remember that girl that got shot in the eye with a paintball by a Boston cop a while back? See what I mean? You might not think of a paintball gun as being able to cause serious injury, but it is possible which is why something like that is never called ‘non-lethal’, as there’s always the off chance that it will do something it shouldn’t and seriously hurt or kill someone, however unlikely it may be.

It is VERY uncommon that a Taser seriously injures or kills someone, yet it’s VERY effective at incapacitating an aggresive suspect, which comes out to mean a win-win situation for the cops which is why it’s so damned popular: incapacitates suspect causing him to cease dangerous activity, cops don’t get hurt, bystanders don’t get hurt, and the suspect doesn’t get hurt (hurt meaning injured here, Tasers hurt but they don’t cause injury–big difference)! “Hey, that’s great!” says Law Enforcement.

And this really is accurate, it’s just that on the RARE occasion that someone is injured or killed by a Taser, the news media jump on it like jackals so it seems like it’s a much bigger problem than it really is: if cops were subduing suspects by throwing cow patties at them and 1 in 100,000 people who have a cow patty thrown at them die, BUT every time someone dies as a result the news media plasters it all over the place but don’t mention the statistics, so every week you’re hearing about cops killing people with cow patties, you might think the cops are being overzealous and abusive, and that maybe the cow patties are too dangerous and shouldn’t be used, or at least a lot less often–but what if you knew the actual odds of being injured or killed by said cow patty, that is 1 in 100,000? Then you might think differently, then you might say the media is blowing it out of proportion! See what I mean?

Also, Tasers are weapons that tend to incapacitate for a very short period of time with no lasting effects. Notice I said ‘tend to’, not ‘always’–it’s all about the odds of serious injury, not whether or not it ‘could’ happen. Want to see a lot of examples of Tasering’s, maybe enough to be STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT so that you can see what is most LIKELY to happen?? Video demo’s on Tasers website: http://www.taser.com/law/videos.htm

What’s that? Taser is obviously biased so they probably cherry pick the videos they show? How about every Taser video on Google Video and YouTube??


By the way, I am NOT Law Enforcement, never have been, have no family members or close friends who are or ever have been, and I am not associated with Taser or anyone else selling their products or anything similar. I just have common sense, respect for Police and other Law Enforcement, and a complete LACK of respect for CRIMINAL SCUMBAGS!

4 Responses to 'UCLA Taser Incident'

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  1. Face said,

    I’m just not too hot on anything that can be used to electricute anyone, or put holes in anyone. Some good points here though.

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  4. Matt said,

    Nicely said. The clarification of terms is great too, cause there’s always those people who take it the wrong way. What’s better getting shot / getting hit with a baton (each with lasting long term effects) or getting tased for 5 seconds and being subdued without any colateral.

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