Discuss your reactions to the episode with perspective. Talk about the latest plot twist or secret reveal. Discuss an actor who is totally nailing their part (or not). Point out details that you noticed that others may have missed. In general, what did you think about the last episode and where the story is going?
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I'm actually really sad that he's gone now.... I thought he could be even more evil than Fisk himself
It's all down here for Fisk now. Everyone knows that when the wife dies the husband is soon to follow.
Did they ever confirm that Vanessa Fisk died here? I thought she was in some kind of coma or something.
Bit late to the party, but I think the joke was that Wesley was the wife. :)
If I wasn't already team Kingpin before this episode, I 100% am now. This girl killed one of my favorite characters. I really hope Kingpin beats Matt Murdock
Damn Karen!!! I did not see that coming at all
Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and Karen killed a guy with a handgun.
Karen, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
I really expected Wesley to be the one orchestrating the attacks on the Kingpin, and I also wondered if they were going to fridge Karen in that scene. Colour me surprised! You gotta love what they've done with her character
I need a gif of sad Matt holding a monkey balloon
Make it a wallpaper!
http://i.imgur.com/ofMqTI1.png
I love you forever! Finally a new wallpaper
hug
SHIT! I thought that extra "thank you" Fisk gave Wesley was going to lead to epic irony that Wesley was the one behind the poisoning and that he had lost faith in Fisk.
I do enjoy the recent trend in fiction for villains to act like "You're not going to shoot me," and then get shot.
I think the appropriate word in the MCU for this situation would be "punished".
And oh boy I love it.
Holy shit. I did not see that ending coming at all. I was fully expecting Karen to die and be some kind of fuel to bring Foggy and Matt back together.
I like how humanized Kingpin is portrayed. The best villains have a twisted logic that could make sense from a POV, and this show does a good job of doing that for Fisk.
So it's been 5 episodes since Claire's appeared - really strange that they mention her in 10 but don't show her patching Matt up...her and Foggy sharing a scene would have been immensely amusing so I guess it would have undercut the seriousness of dealing with the betrayal.
EDIT: annnnd there we go. Hello, Rosario.
great episode! the ending had me shocked, i thought something else entirely would happen!
Why would Wesley do that? I expected him to die sometime but his actions didn't make any sense to me.
I'm upset about this. I really enjoyed watching him. Go Karen, but, damn.
I'm having trouble buying that he could be that stupid or careless.
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He shouldn't have put a loaded gun on the table where she could reach it. I expected better from that guy.
I guess it was a result of his arrogance throughout the series
A gif I made after seeing this ep: "MRW A Character Thinks They Have Better Plot Armor Than Me: http://i.imgur.com/Kb8RHtH.gif"
So y'all noticed he fought the Gladiator (Melvin Potter), the saw blade bit was a nice touch :-)
I really loved Wesley's acting and I'm gonna miss the character. His last scene with Karen was so damn intense
Karen lovingly caressing Matt's face makes me feel happy for what I hope to come. Also the look on her face when Matt says he likes the sound of her voice(:
Do you think they'll end up together?
I hope it does but it may just end up like Matt and Claire with the cliché that you can't love someone and be a vigilante. Like with Oliver over on Arrow.
To talk about something else than Karen kicking ass: That scene with Murdock talking to Melvin was really nice and sweet, so heart warming after they just beat the crap out of eachother.
49 minutes seems like a blatant agent smith ripoff! or maybe matrix homage?
I picked up hints of the Architect's speech as well as Agent Smith's speech to Morpheus in the first movie.
FUCK! Wesley was the main reason i watched this show, my favourite character was always Wesley and btw, i cant stand the actor of Karen, she acts the same way none stop, its overacting and too serious, non-stop. So seeing my favourite character get killed by the character that annoys the shit out of me whenever shes on screen, was like the saddest thing ever, but at the same time, the twist was pretty damn awesome. So my brain is confused
Karen has gone too far. She crossed the line from what heroes are supposed to do, into what punishers do. That said, Wesley put her in a trying situation. No easy answers. Interesting development of the character. I wonder what her role in the show will be now.
I just finished episode 11, and I just gotta say.... well she showed real strong remorse so...... I'm gonna go on a whim and say she was acting on strong adrenaline and just followed her carnal instincts to save herself/everyone she loves... Still doesn't justify her killing Wesley.... but she'll have a fun time pleading manslaughter in court. ;)
Also RIP Wesley, really like his character.
Here. Here. Wesley was a good character. The loyal servant. Loyalty is an admirable quality, but loyalty to a Child-Monster is...questionable. No. I'll say it. It's wrong.
Karen's behavior is understandable...sort of. I don't know. I just personally felt that being a noble character she was acting in a manner outside of the normal parameters. Just my feeling though.
Thanks for the comment! Glad you're enjoying the show!
Well, Shit. I did NOT see that coming. Things escalated pretty quickly...
Karen's very light mustache(very noticeable in the final interrogation scene) somehow makes her more attractive.
Feels so weird saying that.
Ewww.. what is it with women having facial hair that's clearly visible in the light, yet everyone acts like they totally don't even seen? All she's gotta do is wax her face before shooting a scene but NOOOO.. "I don't care what people think" - Her
Sorry, but I'm glad Karen killed Wesley, I didn't want to see the good guy has opportunity to win but let's bad guy go cliché.
Oh my god. She shot him. First time watching- Holy shit, what's going to happen!? Is she... Will she?.. I... I just don't know. I'm just... Holy sh***.
Does anyone know the track playing during the scene at Josies Bar?
Heartless Bastards - Only For You
Thank you so much. Shazam didn't want to know.
Uh, why is Melvin potter retarded?
FUCK YOU KAREN. FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU.
Wesley was my goddamn favorite goddamn character.
Fuck you.
Am I the only one who feels Wesley's speech to Karen is reminescent of the one Agent Smith gives to Morpheous in The Matrix? How he talks of filth in the air that attaches to his skin and can't get away from it..Why he hates the city..