Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid 4K UHD (1973) Criterion Collection - Blu-ray Forum

MifuneFan · 04-15-2024, 03:29 PM

Sam Peckinpah's Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1973) coming to 4K from Criterion in July! This 4-disc set (2 UHD / 2 BD) will include 3 different versions of the film.

https://www.criterion.com/films/2902...-billy-the-kid

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4K UHD + BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES

New 4K digital restoration of the 50th Anniversary Release, supervised by editors Paul Seydor and Roger Spottiswoode, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
New 4K digital restoration of the Original Theatrical Release, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
Audio commentary for the 50th Anniversary Release featuring Seydor, Spottiswoode, and critic Michael Sragow
Two 4K UHD discs of the films presented in Dolby Vision HDR and two Blu-rays with the films and special features
New 2K digital master of director Sam Peckinpah’s Final Preview Cut, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
Dylan in Durango, a new interview with author Clinton Heylin about the film’s soundtrack
Passion & Poetry: Peckinpah’s Last Western, a new program about the making of the film
Archival interview with actor James Coburn
Trailer and TV spots
English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
PLUS: An essay by author and critic Steve Erickson

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Sam Peckinpah’s cycle of genre-redefining westerns came to a close with this blood- and dust-caked elegy for the American West, which marries his renegade style with a fatalistic sense of finality. As newly minted lawman Pat Garrett (James Coburn) stalks the outlaw Billy the Kid (Kris Kristofferson) across the plains, their old friendship is twisted into rivalry, and mythic ideals of freedom come up against an emerging ruling-class order—all to the strains of a haunting soundtrack by Bob Dylan (who also appears as the mercurial Alias). Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid—presented here for the first time in three separate versions—stands as perhaps the maverick auteur’s richest, most mature work, a world-weary ballad that bears the solemn weight of history passing into legend.

dressedtokill · 04-15-2024, 04:02 PM

Ugh, yet another release that doesn't port over the Warner extras.

RCRochester · 04-15-2024, 04:02 PM

Finally! I'm assuming the "50th Anniversary Release" is the same as the version Seydor edited in 2006? Or are there differences?

Lou24 · 04-15-2024, 04:02 PM

So, is the 50th anniversary edition another cut of the movie?
There�s 3 different versions of the movie, 106 minute theatrical release, the 122 minute version which I believe is labelled the Turner Preview version and is allegedly the cut that Peckinpah handed in and the 115 minute Seydor cut that was released in 2005 on DVD.
I�m guessing that the Turner version is the one labelled as Final Preview Cut.
The run time listed on Criterion is 106 minutes which is the original theatrical run time.

kwisatzhaderach · 04-15-2024, 04:03 PM

Absolutely incredible. Tears of joy here.

SpookyDollhouse · 04-15-2024, 04:03 PM

Wow this is an all timer

dvining · 04-15-2024, 04:12 PM

Day 1, of the next flash sale!

Which...only lasts a day...

Dwigt · 04-15-2024, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RCRochester

Finally! I'm assuming the "50th Anniversary Release" is the same as the version Seydor edited in 2006? Or are there differences?

Spottiswoode wasn’t involved with the 2006 edit. I guess that he gave some feedback to Seybor, and that this is a refined version of this 2006 edit. I hope that they stick with the sung version of Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door instead of the instrumental Peckinpah wanted to use as an olive branch to usual composer Jerry Fielding, who had been sidelined to make room for Bob Dylan.

Also, if they indeed provide Peckinpah’s final preview cut, the scene between Garrett and his wife should be there. It was removed from his personal copy when they needed extra material to make up for the deleted scenes for the TV broadcast, and it was forgotten when Spottiswoode assembled the 1988 cut. The 2006 edit has it.

MifuneFan · 04-15-2024, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dvining

Day 1, of the next flash sale!

Which...only lasts a day...

It'll be on sale day one (or very soon after) from B&N

yellowcakeuf6 · 04-15-2024, 04:29 PM

I had to sit down for this.

dvining · 04-15-2024, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

It'll be on sale day one (or very soon after) from B&N

With sales taxes suddenly added to Criterion's sales (perhaps my move to NC is to blame) and the increased threshold for free shipping combined with my recently having hit the most recent gift card, leaving many more purchases to go until I earn another, maybe it is time to move away from ordering from Criterion directly...

Winslow Leach · 04-15-2024, 04:38 PM

The release of the year (so far) for me!

sb5 · 04-15-2024, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwigt

Spottiswoode wasn�t involved with the 2006 edit. I guess that he gave some feedback to Seybor, and that this is a refined version of this 2006 edit. I hope that they stick with the sung version of Knockin� on Heaven�s Door instead of the instrumental Peckinpah wanted to use as an olive branch to usual composer Jerry Fielding, who had been sidelined to make room for Bob Dylan.

Also, if they indeed provide Peckinpah�s final preview cut, the scene between Garrett and his wife should be there. It was removed from his personal copy when they needed extra material to make up for the deleted scenes for the TV broadcast, and it was forgotten when Spottiswoode assembled the 1988 cut. The 2006 edit has it.

Yeah, I hope the preview cut here fixes that. The Preview Cut including that scene would be my �go to� version.

Moonlight Shadow · 04-15-2024, 04:52 PM

Yessssssss.
Just came home from a bad dentist session but this news made my day!!!

PullBackCamera · 04-15-2024, 05:19 PM

NOnononnonono.

Peckinphah's cut, the so-called Turner Preview Cut, must be on the 4K disc, not the absolute abomination that is Paul Seydor fan edit. Utter joke. Absolute disgrace. Please complain to Criterion.

gates70 · 04-15-2024, 05:22 PM

Day uno!

RCRochester · 04-15-2024, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PullBackCamera

NOnononnonono.

Peckinphah's cut, the so-called Turner Preview Cut, must be on the 4K disc, not the absolute abomination that is Paul Seydor fan edit. Utter joke. Absolute disgrace. Please complain to Criterion.

The Seydor cut is not an "abomination".

lilboyblu · 04-15-2024, 05:28 PM

Been wanting to watch this for a long, long, time and had been holding out for the 4K. Can't wait!

Stanis · 04-15-2024, 05:51 PM

Wow, I can't believe its finally coming to HD! Why did this skip BD right to UHD? Whatever I'm there for it man (now we need Fuellers Big Red One DC in HD)

MifuneFan · 04-15-2024, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanis

Wow, I can't believe its finally coming to HD! Why did this skip BD right to UHD? Whatever I'm there for it man (now we need Fuellers Big Red One DC in HD)

Criterion had it since 2017. No idea why they sit on some titles so long, but it did benefit many of the Warner licenses like this, Mean Streets, Roaring Twenties, and Lone Star which got 4K's because of that delay.

04-15-2024, 04:02 PM	#2
dressedtokill Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2011 4K collection:60 Blu-ray collection:387 Trading Score:1	Ugh, yet another release that doesn't port over the Warner extras.

04-15-2024, 04:02 PM	#3
RCRochester Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2017 Trading Score:9	Finally! I'm assuming the "50th Anniversary Release" is the same as the version Seydor edited in 2006? Or are there differences?

04-15-2024, 04:02 PM	#4
Lou24 Member Member since:Apr 2015 4K collection:144 Blu-ray collection:409 Trading Score:1	So, is the 50th anniversary edition another cut of the movie? There�s 3 different versions of the movie, 106 minute theatrical release, the 122 minute version which I believe is labelled the Turner Preview version and is allegedly the cut that Peckinpah handed in and the 115 minute Seydor cut that was released in 2005 on DVD. I�m guessing that the Turner version is the one labelled as Final Preview Cut. The run time listed on Criterion is 106 minutes which is the original theatrical run time.

04-15-2024, 04:03 PM	#5
kwisatzhaderach Expert Member Member since:Mar 2016	Absolutely incredible. Tears of joy here.

04-15-2024, 04:03 PM	#6
SpookyDollhouse Active Member Member since:Mar 2024 Location:New York	Wow this is an all timer

04-15-2024, 04:12 PM	#7
dvining Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2011 Location:South Carolina 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:1416 DVD collection:36	Day 1, of the next flash sale! Which...only lasts a day...

04-15-2024, 04:29 PM	#10
yellowcakeuf6 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 16	I had to sit down for this.

04-15-2024, 04:38 PM	#12
Winslow Leach Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2020 Location:Connecticut 4K collection:33 Blu-ray collection:251 DVD collection:314	The release of the year (so far) for me!

04-15-2024, 04:52 PM	#14
Moonlight Shadow Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007	Yessssssss. Just came home from a bad dentist session but this news made my day!!!

04-15-2024, 05:19 PM	#15
PullBackCamera Active Member Member since:Dec 2020	NOnononnonono. Peckinphah's cut, the so-called Turner Preview Cut, must be on the 4K disc, not the absolute abomination that is Paul Seydor fan edit. Utter joke. Absolute disgrace. Please complain to Criterion.

04-15-2024, 05:22 PM	#16
gates70 Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:272 4K collection:1221 Blu-ray collection:4851 Blu-ray reviews:1	Day uno!

04-15-2024, 05:28 PM	#18
lilboyblu Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:19	Been wanting to watch this for a long, long, time and had been holding out for the 4K. Can't wait!

04-15-2024, 05:51 PM	#19
Stanis Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2016 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- MA collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Prime collection:- Trading Score:23	Wow, I can't believe its finally coming to HD! Why did this skip BD right to UHD? Whatever I'm there for it man (now we need Fuellers Big Red One DC in HD)

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