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Official Discussion - The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare [SPOILERS]

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Summary:

The British military recruits a small group of highly skilled soldiers to strike against German forces behind enemy lines during World War II.

Director:

Guy Ritchie

Writers:

Paul Tamasy, Eric Johnson, Arash Amel

Cast:

  • Henry Cavill as Gus March-Phillips

  • Alan Ritchson as Anders Lassen

  • Alex Pettyfer as Geoffrey Appleyard

  • Eiza Gonzalez as Marjorie Stewart

  • Babs Olusanmokun as Heron

  • Cary Elwes as Brigadier Gubbins 'M'

  • Hero Fiennes Tiffin as Henry Hayes

Rotten Tomatoes: 72%

Metacritic: 57

VOD: Theaters

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u/mikeyfreshh avatar

Everyone in this movie is distractingly hot. Eiza Gonzalez might be the most attractive person I've ever seen. Alan Ritchson is jacked to a level that I didn't even know was possible. Henry Cavill is still Henry Cavill.

I don’t know what Alan Ritchson is taking but he literally looks like a cartoon character now. It was actually distracting in some scenes.

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His steroids are on steroids. He looks like a He-Man action figure made a wish to be a real boy. I don't even know what kind of weight you have to lift to get to that point. Is he bench pressing two 2004 Dodge Neons attached to either end of a decommissioned firehouse pole?

u/Toidal avatar

He says it was healthier or easier on his body for him this way than what he did to get in shape for season 1 so all power to him I guess. Maybe though, get a stunt double for anything that needs him agile, man was clunky af in season 2. Also better writers too. Season 1 was by no means smart, but it sure as shit wasn't stupid like season 2

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Season 1 and 2 of what?

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u/irsw avatar

He made Henry Cavill look small. That's not easy to do lol

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u/thearmadillo avatar

It's rabies.

He's got a body built by rabies and Bosnian pocket pussies.

Don't forget the occasional oil change too

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u/howdoikickball avatar

She's one of the best examples of amazing surgery changes https://i.redd.it/jrgad4e37e7b1.jpg

If I ever get work done I'd want her surgeon

u/wordfiend99 avatar

oh wow u aint lyin

u/Idontevenownaboat avatar
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She went from Blossom to Adria Arjona

I didn't even think that was possible

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You’d think that people with more money than her would look better but that doctor is worth every dollar.

Her and Ben Affleck's veneers are my go-to examples of minor and major procedures done flawlessly.

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Whoaaaa

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Alan Ritchson was peaking during the boat takeover. I wonder if his character was supposed to be gay, that flirty back and forth with frogman went on a really long time and it's hard to tell if Ritchie was leaning into it or if he just has no idea what vibe he's putting out.

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That guy just has sexual chemistry with everybody. I don't know if it's a gift or a curse

u/chrisychris- avatar

nah that was definitely on purpose and totally fit his character. I was really hoping for more sexual tension between the men but unfortunately that scene was all we got 😭 they were so hot. Eiza Gonzalez is flawless too.

u/Idontevenownaboat avatar

That dress was wow...

u/BraveFencerMusashi avatar

I wasn't sure if I was more turned on by the party dresses or when she started blasting at those targets.

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u/Idontevenownaboat avatar

I thought he and Cavill were playing lovers for the Nazis but then he just kinda kept the flamboyant energy going.

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u/MrBanditOne avatar

The scene where the boys enter the harbor and proceed to slickly eliminate countless Nazi soldiers set to her singing performance was peak style.

clearly you've never met Matt Schatt

u/GamingTatertot avatar

Top tier SNL reference here

I see what you did there. Crocs with socks is peak masculinity.

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u/EmeraldLounge avatar

Better dress:

Cleopatra or white deal?

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Cleopatra was jaw dropping.

u/lightyearbuzz avatar

Honestly it was too stunning, completely distracted me from the movie haha

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u/karatemanchan37 avatar

This was also the Man from UNCLE so not surprsing.

u/madhawk8 avatar

Dude looks like like a real-life popeye

Henry Cavill and his handlebar mustache had me.

Eiza has has her face worked on so many times she is on the brink of ruining it

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If you’re looking for Nazi kills as slick as the dialogue. This is a fine Guy Ritchie film

If you are looking for deep character depth of an insane but true WWII story? This is also a Guy Ritchie film.

I must say too, but I want to see Alan Ritchson in more things. Not only were his Nazi kills the most badass since The Bear Jew, but he was hilarious. 

u/chrisychris- avatar

loved Ritchson in Reacher and seeing him in this film was such a nice treat. Great actor too, probably my favorite of the cast. Hollywood definitely needs to give him more roles in these types of films (the good kind).

u/EagleForty avatar

Not seeing Alan Ritchson in more things makes me Thad.

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So it feels like a Guy Ritchie film? I'm sold.

u/manquistador avatar

I think it feels more like a Tarantino film. Very Inglorious Basterds vibe.

u/TheGreatLake avatar

I got that vibe too. Hugo Stiglitz is in this movie and there’s a scene where someone undercover gets found out for doing something un-German.

u/Waadap avatar

Hot actress/singer as the spy, a secret mission to kill nazis, the scene on the train with the drunk soldier playing drinking games to be shut down by a superior officer...there are a ton of what I have to assume are nods to I.B.

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Apparently he had to fight for those fight scenes. I'm looking forward to watching this just to see what he did. The big guy he fights is apparently his stunt double. 

Alan Ritchson’s bow and arrow kills were so slick. Embracing his inner Katniss!

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The arrow shot through the stairs on the ship was so so slick, only topped by him literally pushing an arrow through a guy who was too close for him to use the bow.

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I liked the telegram history. Comms was so primitive back then.

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u/jrbcnchezbrg avatar

Alan Ritchson is the best Nazi Hunter since the Bear Jew

Also holy fucking shit Eiza Gonzales

Super solid movie, middle dragged on a while but the nazi killing business was great. Very solid movie

The Bear Jew and Anders would’ve ended the war years sooner 

u/jrbcnchezbrg avatar

“I wont leave without a bucket of nazi hearts” is such a ridiculously great line

"Each man under my command owes me 100 nazi scalps!"

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u/manquistador avatar

Michael Fassbender in X-Men: First Class is better than the Bear Jew.

Michael Fassbender in X-Men: First Class is better than the Bear Jew.

That's debatable. However, the scene in Argentina with Erik Magnus as a Nazi hunter is so good one wants the entire movie to be in the same vein.

Even so, the real Anders Lassen is a far more impressive still.

I would love a entire movie of magneto killing nazis.

u/KingSweden24 avatar

It gets close to that level when X tells him “they’re just following orders!” and the color drains from Fassbender’s face. It’s a small but excellent detail

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u/TheAsylum6969 avatar
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Thoroughly enjoyed the film but I left wanting more. This feels more Dirty Dozen-ish than it does Inglourious Basterds. Since it’s based off a true story (saying that generously) I know they couldn’t go too crazy with it but if it was 15-20 minutes longer, to give some characters more spotlight, I would be much happier.

Plus Alan Ritchson is fucking giant, I’ll watch whatever he’s in.

It’s pretty amazing how this is actually a true story with what occurred so it certainly helps when it feels like it’s lacking in other areas. 

However, I do agree. I wasn’t emotionally attached with these characters compared to other films. 

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Just read the Wikipedia article of operation Postmaster. Let's say that  "actually a true story" is... Generous

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Appreciate the clarification. Gotta make those "final fact" scrolls feel like they got more weight to them.

What those final fact scrolls left out was that practically everyone was dead before the end of the war

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I honestly would have liked it shorter. Or yeah, maybe more character time, and less Nazi killing.

To me it just felt all too easy, and was a lot of times just walking by Nazis and easily dispatching them. It got old by the time they were killing their 300th Nazi on the docks. The more interesting and well choreographed action scenes I liked, but there was a lot that could have been trimmed down. Especially considering in the actual mission they didn't have to kill many Nazis at all because the party idea worked so well.

It felt like a producer saw some footage and told Guy Ritchie to tone down the Guy Ritchie. Everything felt a bit more restrained than it wanted to be so the characters come off a bit flat at times.

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u/FreemanAMG avatar

On the one hand, what a performance from Eiza Gonzalez. She carries the movie, in my opinion. On the other hand, that was the worst Churchill that ever Churchilled!

u/Idontevenownaboat avatar

I actually really like Rory Kinnear too but he was playing Churchill the same way he played Trowbridge in The Diplomat. I didn't see Churchill at all in there really.

u/lightyearbuzz avatar

That's so it was, thank you! Definitely looked/felt familiar (but not like Churchill lol) 

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u/pjtheman avatar

Didn't even realize he was supposed to be Churchill at first. Like I thought for sure they had just made up a fictional prime minister since they were taking such liberties already.

Every line was delivered with this fake, gruff voice like he was just trying really really hard to sound tough. Virtually none of Churchill's actual mannerisms in there. I liked the movie a lot overall, but boy, what a distractingly bad performance. I have no idea how Ritchie saw that and was like "yep, that's what I'm looking for."

I was spoiled with John Lithgow as Churchill from briefly watching the Crown. He's like my Churchill benchmark... but even the Doctor Who Churchills were better than this one.

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doctor who churchill is my favorite of all time lmao

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u/WyngZero avatar

I think everyone did a great job. She just had the most to do in a singular role.

u/SoSaysAlex avatar

Just saw the movie today, and as someone who has been a fan of hers and Alan Ritchson’s for a very long time, I’m so glad they both got a chance to show what they can do in this movie! I hope it leads to bigger roles for both of them

Bro I hate Eiza her whole face is fake

u/FreemanAMG avatar

I agree she has had some procedures done, but to be honest is not a terrible example

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u/KID_THUNDAH avatar

Winston Churchill at the end “what is this, some kind of Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare?”

To me, my Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare

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u/Renegadeforever2024 avatar

Guy Ritchie been on a hot streak

u/GamingTatertot avatar

This reminds me I need to watch The Covenant

u/SilverKry avatar

For as reigned in as Ritchie's style was for that movie it was really damn good. 

u/colbydc5 avatar

Hrrnnggh this movie hit me hard. It was fantastic and seriously moving.

You can not possibly be talking about The Covenant movie that I am thinking of. The one with all the teenage boys throwing cgi bubbles at each other?

u/colbydc5 avatar

No, Guy Ritchie's The Covenant (2023). It's a war film.

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u/KillerAceUSAF avatar

Dude, that movie made me cry.

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I'm not saying this is prime Ritchie by any means, but it's crazy how he can churn out movies this quickly and still have them be more fun than most other action movies being released these days.

u/flyvehest avatar

Havent' seen The Covenant yet, but Operation Fortune was horrible in my opinion, so not that long of a streak, yet.

I think “horrible” is a little much. It was a middle-of-the-road film that’s enjoyable for what it is if you let it. Nothing spectacular or special but, at the very least, Hartnett, Hugh Grant, and Statham are all fun to watch do their thing throughout.

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u/bobthemonkeybutt avatar

Hot streak? Operation Fortune was bad, and the Covenant was ok at best.

u/StrLord_Who avatar

Covenant was much better than "okay."

u/camjryan avatar

The gentleman series recently released on Netflix is pretty great tho

u/camjryan avatar

The gentleman series recently released on Netflix is pretty great tho

u/bobthemonkeybutt avatar

I should check it out

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u/wotown avatar

Feel like I'm taking crazy pills how the hell has Guy Ritchie been on a hot streak lately

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u/ryantyrant avatar

Ritchson fighting in that hallway with the arrow was brutal and awesome. Lots of great set pieces, fun performances. Guy Ritchie was my favorite director as a teen and now 20 years later I’m really digging his recent filmography

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