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Dalek

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MANCHESTER, Conn. — When Raymond Dolphin became assistant principal of a middle school in Connecticut two years ago, it was clear to him that the kids were not all right.
The problem was cellphones. Students were using the devices in class, despite a rule against it. Social media was exacerbating nearly every conflict among students. When Dolphin walked the hallways or surveyed the cafeteria, he invariably saw heads bent over screens.

So in December, Dolphin did something unusual: He banned them.


The experiment at Illing Middle School sparked objections from students and some parents, but it has already generated profound and unexpected results.
Dolphin likened prohibiting cellphones to curbing consumption of sugary foods. "In a matter of months, you start feeling better," he said.
What unfolded at the school reflects a broader struggle underway in education as some administrators turn to increasingly drastic measuresto limit the reach of a technology that is both ubiquitous and endlessly distracting.
Scores of schools across the country — from California to Indiana to Pennsylvania — have taken similar steps to remove cellphones altogether rather than rely on rules around their use.


At 7:50 on a March morning, Dolphin hustled toward his usual spot near the school entrance to make sure the system was working. Moments later, more than 800 middle school students — some boisterous, some sleepy — began flowing through the doors in a river of bulky backpacks and puffy jackets.

Those who had cellphones in their hands slipped them into individual gray pouches made of synthetic rubber. They clicked the magnetic lock at the top of their pouches shut, then placed them into their backpacks or held them up to show teachers. The pouches would stay with them, locked, until dismissal at 2:45 p.m.

Introducing the pouches — made by a California-based company called Yondr — was no cakewalk. Many students arriving that morning said they were still sore. "I cried," said Michael Wilson, 14, about when he learned his phone would become inaccessible during the school day. He signed a last-ditch petition posted on the cafeteria wall urging the administration to reconsider.

Chioma Brown, in a gray sweatsuit and Crocs, slid her cellphone with a glittery cover into her pouch and locked it. She, too, was mad at first. As time passed, her feelings have shifted. "You can focus more" on classes, she said. These days she sometimes forgets that she has her phone with her.


It's not as though Illing had allowed cellphones in class previously. Like three-quarters of all U.S. schools, it didn't. But such policies rely on individual teachers to carry them out, making them effectively an "unenforceable wish," in the words of Jonathan Haidt, a psychologist at New York University who has called for banning phones from schools.


Justin Pistorius, a math teacher at Illing, said that enforcing the prior no-cellphone policy led to power struggles with students, who frequently complained. They would say, "Why are you the dude that's doing this? The lady last year let us use them. You're the jerk,'" Pistorius said (at first using a word other than "jerk").

Enter Yondr, a company founded in 2014 whose magnetically locking pouches are also used to store cellphones during concerts, theatrical events and professional exams. Lately, though, its sales to schools have exploded.

Last year, the number of U.S. schools using the pouches rose to 2,000, said company spokesperson Sarah Leader, more than double the figure in 2022.
Schools from Manhattan to rural Texas have bought the pouches and distributed them to students. In Providence, R.I., all six of the city's middle schools and two of its high schools — a total of 4,500 students — are now using them.
Instead of checking their phones at lunch, they were watching YouTube videos in class and refusing to put away the devices, Kruser said. Teachers were begging for help. Kruser introduced Yondr pouches at her high school in the spring of 2021.

"I really wasn't sure if it was going to be career suicide," said Kruser, 55, who is now an assistant superintendent in Chicopee. "I just thought it was that important."
Fast-forward three years: The use of the pouches has spread to neighboring school districts. This past fall, Massachusetts even launched a grant program to pay for them.
"We have these devices which we know are at best habit-forming and at worst addictive that are increasingly linked to depression and loneliness," said Susan Linn, a psychologist, lecturer at Harvard Medical School and author of "Who's Raising the Kids?"

"So why would we have them in schools?"
Objections from parents fell into three main categories. Some worried about reaching their children in an emergency. A small number had children struggling with anxiety who used their cellphones to listen to music or access meditation apps. Others just liked the convenience of being in touch with their children during the day.
The school reminded parents that there is at least one landline phone in every classroom — and in many cases two. Teachers also still have their cellphones in case they need to call 911 (the pouches also are not "bank vaults," Dolphin added, and can be cut open in an emergency).
In the worst-case scenario — a school shooting — students should focus on hiding and staying quiet, Dolphin said. "The whole idea that you want every kid to be taking out a phone and calling parents is the exact opposite of the safety protocols," he said.


For the handful of children who relied on their cellphones to manage anxiety, Illing created a weaning-off plan. Those students could come to a school office where administrators would unlock their pouches. Within weeks, it was no longer necessary.

As for parents who relied on the cellphone to make last-minute changes to pickups, for instance — they "just had to get over it," Dolphin said. Parents can call the office any time to have a message relayed to a student. Likewise, students can go to the office if they need to reach their parents. For some, it has been their first time using a landline.
Illing administrators said some of the changes among students have surprised them.

Group vaping sessions where students would coordinate to meet in restrooms to smoke prohibited electronic cigarettes? Finished.

Using AirDrop to share inappropriate photos during class? No more.

Social-media-fueled arguments during school? Over.
Pistorius, the math teacher, observed that students are even taking shorter restroom breaks because the trip is no longer an opportunity to spend time on their phones.
Meanwhile, four months into the pilot, most parents seem reconciled to the pouches or appreciate them. So long as there are plans in case of an emergency — a school phone that is readily accessible, for instance — the pouches are "totally fine with me," said Donaree Brown, whose daughter Chioma is in eighth grade.
At the end of the school day, the students file out through the lime-green hallways toward waiting buses. Near every exit is a wall-mounted unlocking station where kids can click open their individual pouches (a staff member needs to attach a magnet each day before dismissal for it to work). On a recent sunny afternoon, about half of the kids were using the unlocking stations.
The school is under no illusion that the system is foolproof, Dolphin said. "Do some kids keep phones secretly in their backpack? Of course. We're not naive," he said. But the students also know that taking out their phones leads to an automatic detention.
When students are in groups, the peer pressure to dislike Yondr remains strong, Dolphin said with a laugh. In one-on-one conversations, though, it's different. Multiple students have told him they feel like they are making more friends. His gut also tells him that "the angsty intensity kids are living under" — he mimicked a person with head down, lost in a screen — has diminished.


Students confirmed that the disappearance of cellphones has, in turn, stimulated something old-fashioned. Serenity Erazo, 14, said that she used to watch TikTok or listen to music after completing her class work. Free time is a little duller now, she said, but the students have adapted: "We'll just find conversation, we figure it out."
Gabe Silver, another eighth-grader, echoed that sentiment. When the pouches first arrived, "everyone was miserable and no one was talking to each other," he said. Now he can hear the difference at lunch and in the hallways. It's louder. Students are chatting more "face to face, in person," Gabe said. "And that's a crucial part of growing up."
Some students hadn't realized how much their phones diverted their focus. Nicole Gwiazdowski, 14, followed the earlier rule not to use her cellphone in class. But even in her pocket, it was still a distraction. Her phone would buzz five to 10 times a day with notifications, she said, prompting her to take it out and check it.
Everyone is paying more attention in class these days, she said. And it turns out that being separated from your phone for the day isn't as big a deal as some students feared.
"People thought, 'Oh my God, I'm going to miss so much,'" Nicole said. "You don't miss anything. Nothing important is happening outside school."
 

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Pretty good ad for Yondr. I went to the site as soon as I finished the article. The pouches don't seem to be available for individual sale, but I'm looking at the box. There are a lot of times I would like my house to be a "phone free space."

Anyway, phones should be banned in schools, no question. I'm not sure this is a solution for every school; if the signal-blocking box is $250, I can't imagine how much a company like that charges to provide enough pouches for a whole school. But it's a good story.
 

The Albatross

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As far as I can tell, there has not been a single school in the US that has implemented phone lockers who has not said that the program has been successful for their school. From administrators to teachers to parents and, yes, importantly, even students. They're all a little reticent at first, "Can this work?" And the pilots, as best I can tell, have been universally successful.

I'm hoping this is the norm when my kid is going into middle school or w/e phones start appearing.

Kids' attachment to phones to this degree is insane.

yeah, but I get it too. I think, 20+ years ago, it'd be like if my school took away my license. I dunno if I'd cry but when I was 18, like, my entire lens to the world was seen through my driver's license, or a friend's drivers license, and imagining being 17 without being able to get in a car and go somewhere was like... impossible to imagine at the time. I think phones are that much more because most kids start to get them at ~11, 12, 13, maybe, and it's like your entire lens to the world (perceived, at least ... In reality, I think it's like putting blinders on a horse, it blocks your vision of the world). And todays 14 year olds also grew up in the age of mobile phone ubiquity, they've never lived in a world where your mobile phone wasn't on your body or next to their body 24 hours a day, it's a pretty radical idea to be detached from it so suddenly.

Even with adults who grew up without phones (me), like as soon as I'm in line waiting for something with other people around, my comfort blankie is reaching into my pocket, taking out my phone, and doing *nothing* valuable on it, nothing that makes my day better, but it's my comfort blankie. As soon as I'm in an elevator and other people are around me. As soon as I'm in a waiting room. As soon as I'm in line at the super market. Hand goes in pocket, phone comes out, and it's my blankie.
 
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Thrill_house

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Good. Killing me how one kid started crying. What the fuck are we(well, the tech companies) turning these children into? Holy shit.
 

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The solution to this problem has always been obvious - it just took the will to implement and determination to maintain what has been necessary.
 

Twister

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This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones
 

Distantmantra

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Phones aren't allowed at my daughter's middle school. They have to go away when the bell rings and they can come back out at the end of the day. If you get caught using it, the phone is taken away and the student's parents are contacted (and are required to respond). The student then has to go to the main office and wait in line to get their phone after school. If this happens another time the student has to check their phone into the office at the beginning of the day for two weeks and can pick it up on their way home every day. Students can't even call/text parents for any reason, they have to go to the office and get permission before doing so. My daughter said it works really well and rarely sees students on phones in class, and they normally get caught by staff.
 

machtia

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This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones
Yes, they do. Whether you think it's wise is a separate question, but there's little room to argue that schools and school districts lack the authority to ban phones.
 

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Phones aren't allowed at my daughter's middle school. They have to go away when the bell rings and they can come back out at the end of the day. If you get caught using it, the phone is taken away and the student's parents are contacted (and are required to respond). The student then has to go to the main office and wait in line to get their phone after school. If this happens another time the student has to check their phone into the office at the beginning of the day for two weeks and can pick it up on their way home every day. Students can't even call/text parents for any reason, they have to go to the office and get permission before doing so. My daughter said it works really well and rarely sees students on phones in class, and they normally get caught by staff.
Hope this catches on.
 

EN1GMA

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Ontario is set to enforce a cell phone ban for students K-6 during the entire school day and 7-12 during in class time. Phones are to be taken away if used in class.

We will see how well this is enforced.
 

RUFF BEEST

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This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones
With respect, since you are not a parent you should probably think more about what you are adding to the conversation. If you were one, I promise you you would feel differently. There is no bluffing your way to "nuh uh I'm pro-tech and blah blah blah" when you spend years taking care of little ones and actually pay even vague attention to the effects of addictive tech and social media, on their attention span and social skills.

Also, with respect, schools absolutely have the right to ban cellphones.
 
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Will kids return to playing games on their TI calculators?
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Tbm24

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Good, hope it keeps working. I've made it a point to limit my phone use when around my kid so she doesn't build the association that it is in fact ok to be staring down at your fucking phone all day.
 

The Albatross

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"the students have adapted: "We'll just find conversation, we figure it out."

THis is really it for me too. I'm hyper sensitive to it these days because I think about this shit all day with a 6 year old who will be a teenager soon enough... I drive by the bus stops and kids walking to/from school while I bring my kindergartner to school, and to a tee, every 8th-11th grader waiting for the bus is standing there, 4-8 kids at a stop or so, all standing there staring down at their phone. For one I think about their neck. Two, nobody is talking. Nobody is making connections with each other in the same way, no accidental friendships. A lot of my closest, longest friends, we're friends because we were going through the same shit at the same time and had nothing to do but be friends with each other. Today, if you escape into a phone in every situation (as I do too), there are no accidental friends, because the TikTOker or YouTuber is there for you to develop a parasocial relationship with, and you can't make connections to anybody else. And anybody who reaches out to talk to someone else, which should be the most normal thing in the world as social animals, is the weirdo.

The opportunity cost of phones in schools is just massive. You just miss out on so much opportunity, because like me waiting in the sandwich line, my kneejerk comfort blanket is reaching into my pocket to take my cell phone out just to shut the world out around me.

Hope this is the norm for 7th grade when my daughter gets there.
 

The Albatross

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This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones

Why not?

Why wouldn't this be like anything else that schools control when kids are on school grounds? If you want your kids to use their phones during school time, you can homeschool your kids, just like parents who don't want to vaccinate their kids or parents who want to teach their kids a traditional Christian education, or w/e. You'd still have an option for a phone-filled classroom if your district implemented this, it'd just be private school, home school, or whatever.
 
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"the students have adapted: "We'll just find conversation, we figure it out."

THis is really it for me too. I'm hyper sensitive to it these days because I think about this shit all day with a 6 year old who will be a teenager soon enough... I drive by the bus stops and kids walking to/from school while I bring my kindergartner to school, and to a tee, every 8th-11th grader waiting for the bus is standing there, 4-8 kids at a stop or so, all standing there staring down at their phone. For one I think about their neck. Two, nobody is talking. Nobody is making connections with each other in the same way, no accidental friendships. A lot of my closest, longest friends, we're friends because we were going through the same shit at the same time and had nothing to do but be friends with each other. Today, if you escape into a phone in every situation (as I do too), there are no accidental friends, because the TikTOker or YouTuber is there for you to develop a parasocial relationship with, and you can't make connections to anybody else. And anybody who reaches out to talk to someone else, which should be the most normal thing in the world as social animals, is the weirdo.

Hope this is the norm for 7th grade when my daughter gets there.

Shortly after Covid, when my daughter, newly in high school, had friends over, they would go to her room and pull out their phones. That was the hangout. It was hard to witness
 
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Will kids return to playing games on their TI calculators?
Falldown and Phoenix were goat
And Bomberkids if you happened to have the link cable

Are TI-83's still $80+?

This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones
You sound as obsessed with phones as the kids crying over losing theirs
 

squeakywheel

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Love it. I hope kids have time for some face to face interactions in school. Even myself, socially awkward at the best of times, can look back and see how useful it was to at least try and make some friends or just try to connect with then-strangers.
 

SageShinigami

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This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones

If I were a teacher I'd tell you take your kid out if you're so upset about it. When I was a kid cellphones were new and if you had them out in class they took it from you. You got it back at the end of the day. Pay attention in class. Or, to use a Naruto reference: learn how to not get caught. This is your Chuunin Exam.
 

The Albatross

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Shortly after Covid, when my daughter, newly in high school, had friends over, they would go to her room and pull out their phones. That was the hangout. It was hard to witness

Yeah, it's hard mate. My nephew is 12 now and his parents got him a phone because he now goes to a school that's a district away, and I get it, they resisted as long as they could, but it's pretty much the norm now. Him and his friends are good kids, good stupid boys just like they should but, but now that 2 of them have phones (the other is still in 6th grade), when they get together it's a mix of ... a little bit of football, little bit of being idiot boys, but then 2 of them on their phones and the 6th grader trying to watch what they're watching.

It makes you want to go to them and be like "GO SOMEWHERE TO SMOKE CIGARETTES... BREAK INTO THE LIQUOR CABINET TO SNEAK BOOZE... BLOW UP SOMEONES MAILBOX WITH AN M80... DO SOMETHING!" hahaha. There's obviously major negatives to..... yknow... smoking cigarettes and destruction of property... but it makes me think back, like, the derilict shit that I was getting into, trying to unlock my friend's brothers' chest in his room so that we could smell his bag of marijuana stems, probably wasn't all that bad. "DUDE I'M FEELING SOMETHING I'M SO STONED RIGHT NOW"
 

Joe

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If a student walked in with a Fuck Joe Biden shirt, what would you do?

Even if having a cell phone were considered speech, there's already precedent about this. A cell phone band would pass the tinker test. Cell phones clearly "materially and substantially interfere" with schooling
 

Squirrel09

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I'm a full grown adult that needs a smart phone for work and I'm trying to find a way to switch to a dumb phone... I'm sick of the endless scrolling of smart devices...

(I said as I close ResetEra to check twitter... ugh...)
 

The Albatross

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Something that comes up pretty often in our school district when this topic comes up is school shootings.

IMO, like gun possession, phone possession in school is a panacea to a threat like school shootings. It's a thing that people think protects them against violence, but it doesn't, and the negative health effects are the more pernicious threat.

I totally get the parental anxiety there, too. You're so scared of a campus violence event and your child's phone is like ... the little bit that you feel like you can control, and so you really cling to that as the thing that might save you in the event of a tragedy at school. I get the anxiety about it, but I think the phone is a panacea, like me gripping the arm rest when my plane hits turbulence.
 

Sanjuro

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If you had children you would know how massive of an issue this is right now.

I don't have kids, I don't need to have kids to know phones in class rooms are an issue. They were in an issue when I was in school too and that was decades ago before smart phones existed. The idea that they aren't an issue now is such a weird one that I don't know where people decided it's the case.

When I was in school if you had a phone at school it stayed in your bag and switched off/on silent. If any teacher even saw it during a class you'd be lucky to get it back by the end of the class because most cases it wasn't retuned to you until after the school day itself
 
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Something that comes up pretty often in our school district when this topic comes up is school shootings.

IMO, like gun possession, phone possession in school is a panacea to a threat like school shootings. It's a thing that people think protects them against violence, but it doesn't, and the negative health effects are the more pernicious threat.
I think this is the best way it's been put so far
 

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This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones

Of course they do. They have rules over weapons, dress code, and all sorts of other things. It is the job of the school to enact rules that help with safety of students and the learning environment.

If you want your kid to be a slave to his phone all day instead of learning then you homeschool your kid and report back.

It's obvious you don't have kids or work with kids because if you did you would know why so many people are championing and why so many places that have done this have said how great it's been.
 

NinjaScooter

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This discussion pops up on here like weekly at this point. If I ever had children I'd be at the district's throat over this. You have no right to ban cellphones

You sound like you'd be the type of parent that makes being a teacher/administrator insufferable. Your hypothetical children aren't special, no matter how badly you want them to be.
 

Alcoremortis

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Yeah this is a good move. When I was in highschool the only phones were flip phones, but if a teacher saw one in class, it was an automatic detention. And smartphones are a million times more distracting. I couldn't even send a text message on my high school flip phone and kids now can easily watch whole movies.
 

Dhx

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We had a thread a month ago full of phone supporters. I'm heartened to see a stark difference to start this one. They have to go.