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Dizzy01

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That just doesn't make any sense DeeDave? It's not offering protection from infection. Check the studies posted and the CDC website OR the daily articles of all the vaccinated getting infected. Today's spotlight "breakthrough case" is fully vaccinated, WH Press Secretary Jen Psaki.

If you are worried about hospitalizations, you would want them to skip the mandates, as the 30-40% of healthcare workers who are going to quit.
Down to 30-40% from the 50% a couple days ago. In a week or so you’ll make it to the actual which is around 8 to 10%.
 

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Below is a scene from MetLife Stadium in the Democractic stronghold State of NEW JERSEY.

A clear indictment on whacky policy:

 
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Either vaxed or not vaxed. If you were treated for covid , what was your process in getting the monoclonal treatment. There is so much misinformation online I thought I’d check to see if anyone on here can share their treatment progress - did you go to your dr? Anyone do a video appt and get access ?

—- specifically with the monoclonal antibody treatment.
I’m very late to the discussion but I didn’t get vaxed and got covid about 6 weeks ago. I got the infusion 4 days later. Never really got sick. I’ve had much worse colds. Did my 10 days and went back to work. Oh and the treatment is free. It’s not expensive. Some folks here have no idea what they are talking about. The difference seems to be getting on it quickly.
 
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The dipshits on this board in SC are absolutely pathethic. Politics over real science. Ya'll are a bunch of ignorant monkeys. Its actually painful to try and read some of the posts. Are you people really that ignorant to believe the government is trying to control you or your thoughts and this vaccine is some sort of political mechanism to make sure you elect one loser over another based on political parties? Crazy. We have been taking shots for our survival or health for 100 years. Nothings changed. Geezus
The dipshits on this board in SC are absolutely pathethic. Politics over real science. Ya'll are a bunch of ignorant monkeys. Its actually painful to try and read some of the posts. Are you people really that ignorant to believe the government is trying to control you or your thoughts and this vaccine is some sort of political mechanism to make sure you elect one loser over another based on political parties? Crazy. We have been taking shots for our survival or health for 100 years. Nothings changed. Geezus
You are brilliant. Not.
Democrats. The corrupt leading the stupid.
 
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I’m very late to the discussion but I didn’t get vaxed and got covid about 6 weeks ago. I got the infusion 4 days later. Never really got sick. I’ve had much worse colds. Did my 10 days and went back to work. Oh and the treatment is free. It’s not expensive. Some folks here have no idea what they are talking about. The difference seems to be getting on it quickly.
It’s only “free” because tax money is going to pay for it. They’re charging the government between 3,000 and 5,000 for your “free” treatment.
 

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I’m very late to the discussion but I didn’t get vaxed and got covid about 6 weeks ago. I got the infusion 4 days later. Never really got sick. I’ve had much worse colds. Did my 10 days and went back to work. Oh and the treatment is free. It’s not expensive. Some folks here have no idea what they are talking about. The difference seems to be getting on it quickly.

Thanks for sharing. Early treatment is key and keeps you out of the hospital. The MDs who have been treating (vaccinated) congress members have also treated thousands with early protocols and not a single one has gone to the hospital or died. (per Dr. Brian Tyson @btysonmd)
 
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Did you even read that article?

Sure did. If you believe any legacy media outlet is going to tell you it's because of the mandates, you're going to wait a long time. Of course it's because of the mandates. Look at the timing.

"The exodus is discouraging. A recent study found nearly 20 percent of medical workers have resigned since the start of the pandemic. Another 30 percent have considered leaving. Factors range from burnout to safety concerns to low pay. These dedicated professionals have been working nonstop since the pandemic began, providing care and delivering vaccines. It’s not surprising many have decided they can’t go on."
 

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Now you're suddenly concerned about government spending?
When have I ever said I was for more government spending? Is it because I don’t feign outrage like the modern Faux Republicans that are in office now who only care when they aren’t the ones jacking up the deficit?
 

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Sure did. If you believe any legacy media outlet is going to tell you it's because of the mandates, you're going to wait a long time. Of course it's because of the mandates. Look at the timing.

"The exodus is discouraging. A recent study found nearly 20 percent of medical workers have resigned since the start of the pandemic. Another 30 percent have considered leaving. Factors range from burnout to safety concerns to low pay. These dedicated professionals have been working nonstop since the pandemic began, providing care and delivering vaccines. It’s not surprising many have decided they can’t go on."
It’s got to be a blessing to be able to read something and then just decide that it means whatever you want regardless.
 
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If the anti-vaxers on this board hold a USC diploma I'd feel like turning mine in.

I got the Vax but your comment largely epitomizes the problem in this country-intolerance and indifference towards our fellow Americans. I'm pro vax but I understand if someone doesn't get it. Herd immunity is a big lie and leading authorities are beginning to doubt it will happen.
 

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I got the Vax but your comment largely epitomizes the problem in this country-intolerance and indifference towards our fellow Americans. I'm pro vax but I understand if someone doesn't get it. Herd immunity is a big lie and leading authorities are beginning to doubt it will happen.
So true, if you are for a Person's right to choose, you are called names (Anti Vaxer) by the left... Typical, its the new fundamentally changed America, where anything considered conservative is BAD BAD BAD!!
 

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I got the Vax but your comment largely epitomizes the problem in this country-intolerance and indifference towards our fellow Americans. I'm pro vax but I understand if someone doesn't get it. Herd immunity is a big lie and leading authorities are beginning to doubt it will happen.

Yep. The only-vaxxers are the reason people are dying today. There is NO WAY we should have a shortage of monoclonal antibodies at this point unless it is intentional. NONE. Monoclonal antibodies should be as available as vaccine at this point.
 

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That just doesn't make any sense DeeDave? It's not offering protection from infection. Check the studies posted and the CDC website OR the daily articles of all the vaccinated getting infected. Today's spotlight "breakthrough case" is fully vaccinated, WH Press Secretary Jen Psaki.

If you are worried about hospitalizations, you would want them to skip the mandates, as the 30-40% of healthcare workers who are going to quit.


As I've said, we are going to have to agree to disagree.
 

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So true, if you are for a Person's right to choose, you are called names (Anti Vaxer) by the left... Typical, its the new fundamentally changed America, where anything considered conservative is BAD BAD BAD!!
Yes the one thing the cult cant stand is name calling.

Yet
A partial list of people Trump has publicly declared a “loser” (and other names) It turns out this was not an especially effective way to judge the man because, awkwardly, pretty much everyone is on that list.

  • Alex Pareene, Gawker writer
  • Loser
  • Alex Rodriguez, baseball player
  • Idiot
  • Alex Salmond, Scottish politician
  • Loser
  • Amy Pascal, former chairwoman of Sony Pictures
  • Loser
  • Ana Navarro, political commentator
  • Loser
  • Anderson Cooper, journalist
  • Dumb
  • Aneesh S, random Twitter user
  • Dummy
  • Angelo Carusone, vice-president of Media Matters
  • Loser
  • Anika Heinmaa, university student
  • Dummy
  • Anthony Baxter, filmmaker
  • Dummy
  • Arianna Huffington, publisher
  • Loser
  • Barack Obama, U.S. President
  • Idiot
  • Bill Maher, talk show host
  • Loser
  • Bill Kristol
  • Loser
  • Bill Moyers, liberal activist
  • Dummy
  • Bobby Jindal, governor of Louisiana
  • A zero
  • Brah Sumatra, random guy on Twitter
  • Dummy
  • Brett Jarka, random guy on Twitter
  • Loser
  • Brian Williams, former NBC News host
  • Dummy
  • Charles Freeman, writer
  • Dummy
  • Charles Krauthammer, columnist
  • Loser
  • Cher, singer
  • Loser
  • Chris Cillizza, journalist
  • Moron
  • Chris Jackson, basketball player
  • Loser
  • Chris Moody, journalist
  • Loser
  • Chuck Hagel, former defence secretary
  • Moron
  • Chuck Todd, journalist
  • Loser
  • Clare O’Connor, Forbes writer
  • Dummy
  • Dan Amira, senior editor at New York magazine
  • Loser
  • Danny Zuker, writer of TV’s Modern Family
  • Loser
  • Dave Centrist, unknown
  • Loser
  • David Cameron, British Prime Minister
  • Dummy
  • David Milne, resident of Menie, Scotland
  • Loser
  • Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC director
  • Fool
  • Eric Schneiderman, N.Y. attorney general
  • Loser
  • Erick Erickson, red-state organizer
  • Loser
  • Frank Lutz, pollster
  • Loser
  • Gary, an astrologer in Cleveland
  • Loser
  • Gavin Rossdale, musician
  • Loser
  • George Will, columnist and author
  • Loser
  • Glenfiddich, a whisky brand
  • Joke
  • Graydon Carter, editor of Vanity Fair
  • Loser
  • Gwyneth Paltrow, actress
  • Loser
  • Harry Hurt, Trump biographer
  • Dummy
  • Hisham Elzanaty, businessman
  • Loser
  • Howard Stern, radio host
  • Loser
  • Huffington Post, online news aggragator
  • Loser
  • ISIS
  • Evil losers
  • J Papadopoulos, Australian
  • Moron
  • Jamie Flood, Doctor Who fan
  • Dummy
  • Jacqueline Goldberg, 87-year-old grandmother
  • Loser
  • Jeb Bush, Republican candidate
  • Loser
  • Jerry Seinfeld, comic (net worth $700m)
  • Failure
  • John Heilemann, journalist
  • Dummy
  • John McCain, U.S. Senator and war hero
  • Loser
  • Jon Stewart, comedian
  • Dummy
  • Jonah Goldberg, editor of National Review
  • Loser
  • Karl Rove, political strategist
  • Loser
  • Kirsten Powers, political pundit
  • Dummy
  • Kristina Oakes, One Direction fan
  • Moron
  • Lawrence O’Donnell, MSNBC host
  • Fool
  • Lindsey Graham
  • Idiot
  • Lord Sugar, English business magnate
  • Loser
  • Marco Rubio
  • Loser
  • Mark Cuban, investor
  • Loser
  • Megyn Kelly, Fox News journalist
  • Loser
  • Michael Forbes, Scottish farmer
  • Loser
  • Michele Shephard, business executive
  • Dummy
  • Michelle Malkin, conservative blogger
  • Loser
  • Mike Tollin, documentary filmmaker
  • Loser
  • New York Daily News, newspaper
  • Loser
  • Nick McDougall, random guy on Twitter
  • Dummy
  • Nick Vranas, salesman
  • Dummy
  • Patch.com, news website
  • Loser
  • Patrick Blackburn
  • Moron
  • Paul Goldberger, architecture critic
  • Loser
  • Philip Crowther, French journalist
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #1
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #2
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #3
  • Idiot
  • Random Twitter User #4
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #5
  • Dummy
  • Random Twitter User #6
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #7
  • Dummy
  • Random Twitter User #8
  • Moron
  • Richard Belzer, actor
  • Stone Cold Loser
  • Rihanna, singer
  • Loser
  • Robert Yopp, refrigerator repairman
  • Dummy
  • Roger Stone, former Trump advisor
  • Stone Cold Loser
  • Rosie O’Donnell, talk show host
  • Loser
  • Russell Brand, actor
  • Loser
  • Ryan Matt, guy in Phoneix
  • Loser
  • Salon, news website
  • Loser
  • Sarah A. Wescot-Williams, Prime Minister of Sint Maarten
  • Loser
  • Sasha Baron Cohen, actor and comedian
  • Moron
  • Seth Meyers, talk show host
  • Loser
  • Sheena Monnin, former Miss Pennsylvania
  • Loser
  • Shelly Kulwin, lawyer
  • Fool
  • Star Jones, lawyer
  • Fool
  • Terry Pegula, Buffalo Bills owner
  • Loser
  • Thamsanqa Jantjie, sign-language interpreter at Mandela funeral
  • Moron
  • Theo Moll, Vice columnist
  • Dummy
  • Thokozile Masipa, Oscar Pistorius trial judge
  • Moron
  • Tim O’Brien, novelist
  • Loser
  • Timothy Burke, Deadspin writer
  • Loser
  • Tina Brown, magazine editor
  • Loser
  • Tom Allen, random Twitter user
  • Moron
  • Tom Scocca, Deadspin editor
  • Loser
  • Yolie, LGBT activist
  • Loser
And, on Memorial Day, he had this general catch-all:

I would like to wish everyone, including all haters and losers (of which, sadly, there are many) a truly happy and enjoyable Memorial Day!

The "left" should stop doing that
 
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Yes the one thing the cult cant stand is name calling.


The "left" should stop doing that


Ah yes, the "Trump did it" defense. Ranks right up there with the small child yelling "he started it".

And in the end, it just means both sides do it, and only seem to care when it's the other side.
 

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Yes the one thing the cult cant stand is name calling.

Yet
A partial list of people Trump has publicly declared a “loser” (and other names) It turns out this was not an especially effective way to judge the man because, awkwardly, pretty much everyone is on that list.

  • Alex Pareene, Gawker writer
  • Loser
  • Alex Rodriguez, baseball player
  • Idiot
  • Alex Salmond, Scottish politician
  • Loser
  • Amy Pascal, former chairwoman of Sony Pictures
  • Loser
  • Ana Navarro, political commentator
  • Loser
  • Anderson Cooper, journalist
  • Dumb
  • Aneesh S, random Twitter user
  • Dummy
  • Angelo Carusone, vice-president of Media Matters
  • Loser
  • Anika Heinmaa, university student
  • Dummy
  • Anthony Baxter, filmmaker
  • Dummy
  • Arianna Huffington, publisher
  • Loser
  • Barack Obama, U.S. President
  • Idiot
  • Bill Maher, talk show host
  • Loser
  • Bill Kristol
  • Loser
  • Bill Moyers, liberal activist
  • Dummy
  • Bobby Jindal, governor of Louisiana
  • A zero
  • Brah Sumatra, random guy on Twitter
  • Dummy
  • Brett Jarka, random guy on Twitter
  • Loser
  • Brian Williams, former NBC News host
  • Dummy
  • Charles Freeman, writer
  • Dummy
  • Charles Krauthammer, columnist
  • Loser
  • Cher, singer
  • Loser
  • Chris Cillizza, journalist
  • Moron
  • Chris Jackson, basketball player
  • Loser
  • Chris Moody, journalist
  • Loser
  • Chuck Hagel, former defence secretary
  • Moron
  • Chuck Todd, journalist
  • Loser
  • Clare O’Connor, Forbes writer
  • Dummy
  • Dan Amira, senior editor at New York magazine
  • Loser
  • Danny Zuker, writer of TV’s Modern Family
  • Loser
  • Dave Centrist, unknown
  • Loser
  • David Cameron, British Prime Minister
  • Dummy
  • David Milne, resident of Menie, Scotland
  • Loser
  • Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC director
  • Fool
  • Eric Schneiderman, N.Y. attorney general
  • Loser
  • Erick Erickson, red-state organizer
  • Loser
  • Frank Lutz, pollster
  • Loser
  • Gary, an astrologer in Cleveland
  • Loser
  • Gavin Rossdale, musician
  • Loser
  • George Will, columnist and author
  • Loser
  • Glenfiddich, a whisky brand
  • Joke
  • Graydon Carter, editor of Vanity Fair
  • Loser
  • Gwyneth Paltrow, actress
  • Loser
  • Harry Hurt, Trump biographer
  • Dummy
  • Hisham Elzanaty, businessman
  • Loser
  • Howard Stern, radio host
  • Loser
  • Huffington Post, online news aggragator
  • Loser
  • ISIS
  • Evil losers
  • J Papadopoulos, Australian
  • Moron
  • Jamie Flood, Doctor Who fan
  • Dummy
  • Jacqueline Goldberg, 87-year-old grandmother
  • Loser
  • Jeb Bush, Republican candidate
  • Loser
  • Jerry Seinfeld, comic (net worth $700m)
  • Failure
  • John Heilemann, journalist
  • Dummy
  • John McCain, U.S. Senator and war hero
  • Loser
  • Jon Stewart, comedian
  • Dummy
  • Jonah Goldberg, editor of National Review
  • Loser
  • Karl Rove, political strategist
  • Loser
  • Kirsten Powers, political pundit
  • Dummy
  • Kristina Oakes, One Direction fan
  • Moron
  • Lawrence O’Donnell, MSNBC host
  • Fool
  • Lindsey Graham
  • Idiot
  • Lord Sugar, English business magnate
  • Loser
  • Marco Rubio
  • Loser
  • Mark Cuban, investor
  • Loser
  • Megyn Kelly, Fox News journalist
  • Loser
  • Michael Forbes, Scottish farmer
  • Loser
  • Michele Shephard, business executive
  • Dummy
  • Michelle Malkin, conservative blogger
  • Loser
  • Mike Tollin, documentary filmmaker
  • Loser
  • New York Daily News, newspaper
  • Loser
  • Nick McDougall, random guy on Twitter
  • Dummy
  • Nick Vranas, salesman
  • Dummy
  • Patch.com, news website
  • Loser
  • Patrick Blackburn
  • Moron
  • Paul Goldberger, architecture critic
  • Loser
  • Philip Crowther, French journalist
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #1
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #2
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #3
  • Idiot
  • Random Twitter User #4
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #5
  • Dummy
  • Random Twitter User #6
  • Loser
  • Random Twitter User #7
  • Dummy
  • Random Twitter User #8
  • Moron
  • Richard Belzer, actor
  • Stone Cold Loser
  • Rihanna, singer
  • Loser
  • Robert Yopp, refrigerator repairman
  • Dummy
  • Roger Stone, former Trump advisor
  • Stone Cold Loser
  • Rosie O’Donnell, talk show host
  • Loser
  • Russell Brand, actor
  • Loser
  • Ryan Matt, guy in Phoneix
  • Loser
  • Salon, news website
  • Loser
  • Sarah A. Wescot-Williams, Prime Minister of Sint Maarten
  • Loser
  • Sasha Baron Cohen, actor and comedian
  • Moron
  • Seth Meyers, talk show host
  • Loser
  • Sheena Monnin, former Miss Pennsylvania
  • Loser
  • Shelly Kulwin, lawyer
  • Fool
  • Star Jones, lawyer
  • Fool
  • Terry Pegula, Buffalo Bills owner
  • Loser
  • Thamsanqa Jantjie, sign-language interpreter at Mandela funeral
  • Moron
  • Theo Moll, Vice columnist
  • Dummy
  • Thokozile Masipa, Oscar Pistorius trial judge
  • Moron
  • Tim O’Brien, novelist
  • Loser
  • Timothy Burke, Deadspin writer
  • Loser
  • Tina Brown, magazine editor
  • Loser
  • Tom Allen, random Twitter user
  • Moron
  • Tom Scocca, Deadspin editor
  • Loser
  • Yolie, LGBT activist
  • Loser
And, on Memorial Day, he had this general catch-all:



The "left" should stop doing that
ROFLMAO, who mentioned Trump?? He is still iving rent free in your head 24/7. LOL
 

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Yes the one thing the cult cant stand is name calling.

Yet
A partial list of people Trump has publicly declared a “loser” (and other names) It turns out this was not an especially effective way to judge the man because, awkwardly, pretty much everyone is on that list.

Not to talk about Trump but to be fair, the man consistently insults everyone that doesn't kiss up to him. He's got a long list of former associates and friends he's stepped on. Even those close to him have said he really doesn't have close friends anymore. People that are close to him are close for how it can help them. That's not really news to anyone.

Regardless, name-calling and personal insults are rampant. They sure aren't helpful and reflect poorly on the person tossing them out more so than I think most people believe.

Recently at the company I work for, someone sent out an email to the entire company insulting the President. I was stunned and so were most people. As someone who voted for the President, I wasn't mad at the guy. I actually like him. It was out of character for him. He got in trouble for it and rightfully so. Thankfully, it was just a slap on the wrist. But I actually called him and told him that I hoped he was ok and to just put it behind him and move on. He knows where I stand but I realize he just made a mistake. It wasn't like him so I assume something else was going on. He seems to be fine now.

As we know, name-calling and insults never convince anyone to agree with you. Whether it's COVID, sports, politics, or personal relationships.

The fact is people live their lives differently. I know every Conservative people that are very successful, happy, and have done well, and I know very Liberal people that are very successful, happy, and have done well.

I also know some people that are thrilled to be in the middle somewhere and categorically reject partisan politics and ideological stances on every issue.
 

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Not to talk about Trump but to be fair, the man consistently insults everyone that doesn't kiss up to him. He's got a long list of former associates and friends he's stepped on. Even those close to him have said he really doesn't have close friends anymore. People that are close to him are close for how it can help them. That's not really news to anyone.

Regardless, name-calling and personal insults are rampant. They sure aren't helpful and reflect poorly on the person tossing them out more so than I think most people believe.

Recently at the company I work for, someone sent out an email to the entire company insulting the President. I was stunned and so were most people. As someone who voted for the President, I wasn't mad at the guy. I actually like him. It was out of character for him. He got in trouble for it and rightfully so. Thankfully, it was just a slap on the wrist. But I actually called him and told him that I hoped he was ok and to just put it behind him and move on. He knows where I stand but I realize he just made a mistake. It wasn't like him so I assume something else was going on. He seems to be fine now.

As we know, name-calling and insults never convince anyone to agree with you. Whether it's COVID, sports, politics, or personal relationships.

The fact is people live their lives differently. I know every Conservative people that are very successful, happy, and have done well, and I know very Liberal people that are very successful, happy, and have done well.

I also know some people that are thrilled to be in the middle somewhere and categorically reject partisan politics and ideological stances on every issue.
I dont care who, what or when he insults, i do know my Gas was under $1.80 last year, so for me and my family, he can insult anyone he likes and make as many mean tweets as he likes, if he keeps my Gas prices under $2. But Hey that is just me, i am not offended at every little thing!! If you are, ENJOY Sleeping Joe!!
 
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I dont care who, what or when he insults, i do know my Gas was under $1.80 last year, so for me and my family, he can insult anyone he likes and make as many mean tweets as he likes, if he keeps my Gas prices under $2. But Hey that is just me, i am not offended at every little thing!! If you are, ENJOY Sleeping Joe!!
Well he didn’t like you paying that so he negotiated for gas prices to go up. Significantly reducing supplies while demand is increasing has long term ramifications.
 
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Well he didn’t like you paying that so he negotiated for gas prices to go up. Significantly reducing supplies while demand is increasing has long term ramifications.

You're blaming high gas prices at the end of 2021 on a previous President? I'm not saying it's all Biden's fault either but your logic is illogical.
 
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You're blaming high gas prices at the end of 2021 on a previous President? I'm not saying it's all Biden's fault either but your logic is illogical.

He just loves that talking point though, as he repeats it often. Forget the drop in demand due to pandemic and the price war between Russia and the Saudis.at the time. It's all trumps fault for that one negotiation.
 

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You're blaming high gas prices at the end of 2021 on a previous President? I'm not saying it's all Biden's fault either but your logic is illogical.
It’s all tied together. It’s a basic misunderstanding on how anything works to not look at the full picture of how you ended up somewhere.
 

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He just loves that talking point though, as he repeats it often. Forget the drop in demand due to pandemic and the price war between Russia and the Saudis.at the time. It's all trumps fault for that one negotiation.
So supply and demand only occurs one direction? I get that people would prefer to ignore that this happened or pretend like it didn’t really impact anything but it doesn’t change the overall impact.
 

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So supply and demand only occurs one direction? I get that people would prefer to ignore that this happened or pretend like it didn’t really impact anything but it doesn’t change the overall impact.

I don't think anyone is pretending it didn't happen, or ignoring it. I think they're remembering it in the context of the events at the time.

Someone once posted a good line about it being a "basic misunderstanding not to look at the full picture." I think that fits here rather well.
 

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It’s all tied together. It’s a basic misunderstanding on how anything works to not look at the full picture of how you ended up somewhere.

Would love to see that flowchart, or just a general description of how you arrived at that conclusion.

Please include implications of Biden reversing energy policy as soon as he arrived in office.

Please also include any contango implications.
 
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I don't think anyone is pretending it didn't happen, or ignoring it. I think they're remembering it in the context of the events at the time.

Someone once posted a good line about it being a "basic misunderstanding not to look at the full picture." I think that fits here rather well.
Even at the time the context was questionable and still doesn’t remove the long term ramifications of the decision. I also don’t think many people even include that in their thought processes as it’s only cool to lay blame at certain places.
 

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Even at the time the context was questionable and still doesn’t remove the long term ramifications of the decision. I also don’t think many people even include that in their thought processes as it’s only cool to lay blame at certain places.

Only cool to lay the blame at certain places?

Like repeating over and over the one fact about trumps negotiations? And forgetting the circumstances of the time?

All kidding aside, it seems you're doing exactly what you're saying others do.
 
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You're blaming high gas prices at the end of 2021 on a previous President? I'm not saying it's all Biden's fault either but your logic is illogical.
Lies is all they have. Sleepy Joe and Kamala are BEGGING OPEC and Russia to increase exports. LOL, The left has NOTHING!! Even they have given up on the premise that Trump Supporters, with sticks and stones were trying their best to take over the Govt that had apache Helicopters, Tanks and Missiles!! LOL you cant even make this Schitt up!!
 
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Lies is all they have. Sleepy Joe and Kamala are BEGGING OPEC and Russia to increase exports. LOL, The left has NOTHING!! Even they have given up on the premise that Trump Supporters, with sticks and stones were trying their best to take over the Govt that had apache Helicopters, Tanks and Missiles!! LOL you cant even make this Schitt up!!
Hey, don't leave out the fact that we here in Virginia elected Youngkin due to racism.
 

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The Lincoln Project again showed their true colors with their fake tiki torch white supremacist stunt against Youngkin. They were supposedly "real" Republicans that just hated Trump and now we see that they are nothing but a bunch of dirty, nasty, lying libs that hate every Republican.
 
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Only cool to lay the blame at certain places?

Like repeating over and over the one fact about trumps negotiations? And forgetting the circumstances of the time?

All kidding aside, it seems you're doing exactly what you're saying others do.
The circumstances at the time was a short term pissing contest between producers which dropped oil prices for a brief period. It wasn’t a sustained period nor were prices at a historic low point and while it is possible that these could have happened everyone’s desire for profitability likely stops this from having a lasting impact. Regardless the decision was made to come in and inflate the price of oil back up so that US companies could maintain their desired profit levels. Of course they still made 110 billion dollars which was a drop in profit from prior years but was still higher than they earned in 2016 when this happened the last time.

So we know that this wasn’t an unprecedented drop, we know that it wasn’t causing companies to stop being profitable and we know that costs of oil impacts consumers. With that in mind the decision was made to come to an agreement to lower production to drive cost back up to maintain high profit margins. At the same time that the decision was made to cut production the worldwide economy was starting to move again which increases demand for oil. Now you have more people wanting oil with less production of it and as we all know based on the laws of supply and demand costs go up. Now not only do costs do up but so does profit margins which means that any attempt to change things now isn’t trying to get companies to increase profit but rather decrease it which isn’t typically something they are interested in. In addition even as they decide to increase production this requires ramping up staff which isn’t an overnight process. Working on this should have happened months ago to try and level things out but it didn’t which is simply going to cause this to continue for an extended period of time.

In terms of current policy impacting this there are two actions which impacted the oil industry in revoking the Arctic Wildlife project and the Keystone pipeline neither of which ever produced any oil. So while I am sure it can be argued that anticipation of potential changes is increasing a desire to maximize profits today in terms of specific implemented policies I do not know anything that would change what was in effect from 2020 or prior.

I see there was also a concern about how futures are impacted. So there is absolutely speculation on oil prices and people locking in purchases of oil for future delivery to ensure pricing and supplies. I’m pretty sure at this point that the belief is that demand is only going to continue growing so even at today’s prices people are speculating that the prices will be higher in a couple months than they are today.

The only option now is to figure out a way to get everyone producing more oil and even then it is going to take time to cycle around where the increased production is to create surpluses as opposed to simply “meeting demand”. The time to act on this has passed to a point so that any thing done today is still going to take months to make any change where the consumer sees it. Both parties are responsible for where we are today whether it was starting the increase process or failing to act when it became obvious what was occurring.
 

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The circumstances at the time was a short term pissing contest between producers which dropped oil prices for a brief period. It wasn’t a sustained period nor were prices at a historic low point and while it is possible that these could have happened everyone’s desire for profitability likely stops this from having a lasting impact. Regardless the decision was made to come in and inflate the price of oil back up so that US companies could maintain their desired profit levels. Of course they still made 110 billion dollars which was a drop in profit from prior years but was still higher than they earned in 2016 when this happened the last time.

So we know that this wasn’t an unprecedented drop, we know that it wasn’t causing companies to stop being profitable and we know that costs of oil impacts consumers. With that in mind the decision was made to come to an agreement to lower production to drive cost back up to maintain high profit margins. At the same time that the decision was made to cut production the worldwide economy was starting to move again which increases demand for oil. Now you have more people wanting oil with less production of it and as we all know based on the laws of supply and demand costs go up. Now not only do costs do up but so does profit margins which means that any attempt to change things now isn’t trying to get companies to increase profit but rather decrease it which isn’t typically something they are interested in. In addition even as they decide to increase production this requires ramping up staff which isn’t an overnight process. Working on this should have happened months ago to try and level things out but it didn’t which is simply going to cause this to continue for an extended period of time.

In terms of current policy impacting this there are two actions which impacted the oil industry in revoking the Arctic Wildlife project and the Keystone pipeline neither of which ever produced any oil. So while I am sure it can be argued that anticipation of potential changes is increasing a desire to maximize profits today in terms of specific implemented policies I do not know anything that would change what was in effect from 2020 or prior.

I see there was also a concern about how futures are impacted. So there is absolutely speculation on oil prices and people locking in purchases of oil for future delivery to ensure pricing and supplies. I’m pretty sure at this point that the belief is that demand is only going to continue growing so even at today’s prices people are speculating that the prices will be higher in a couple months than they are today.

The only option now is to figure out a way to get everyone producing more oil and even then it is going to take time to cycle around where the increased production is to create surpluses as opposed to simply “meeting demand”. The time to act on this has passed to a point so that any thing done today is still going to take months to make any change where the consumer sees it. Both parties are responsible for where we are today whether it was starting the increase process or failing to act when it became obvious what was occurring.

At least that cut and paste acknowledged the price war and the national shutdown, even if it did also try to pretend those weren't reason enough for Trump to do what he did.

It's much easier to believe Trump wanted oil companies just to get richer, because, as everyone knows, orange man bad.
 
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