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now the confusion thickens

KSTP-DT2 has new programming listed as of Monday BUT
WCIU-DT4 Chicago (which is considered the "mothership" station) has same programming as what is currently listed
 

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Depends on several variables. If you really want to know the best antenna options for your specific location, look up your specific address at TVFool.com and post the link in this thread, which is signal and antennae focused, and you should be on your way. A little bit of reading now will yield great results.

Good luck.
Shift_grind,

There is a thread dedicated specifically to helping people choose and install antennas for OTA. I included the link in the above response. Seriously, if you're trying to figure out the best options for antennas - at your specific address - you'll quickly get all the answers you need there. This thread is more focused on what's being broadcast OTA locally.
 

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Multi Directional 8 Bay Bowtie Antenna

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...m_medium=email&utm_source=inhouse&location=01

I have an 8 bay bowtie antenna now, but I have it mounted inside, thus I occasionally have some multi-path distortion interference. Anyway, I am wondering if anybody here in the Minneapolis-Saint Paul area is using one of the directional 8 bay bowtie antennas and, if so, how well does it work for you?
 

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I have one in my walk in closet at my apartment near Mistake Lake and it works pretty good. One word of advice is don't try to fold the panels apart. All you do is hinder the signal (again I'm using it indoors)

I tried to move the one panel towards St Cloud for KPXM and my signal on a couple of the Mpls stations went down. If both panels are aimed same direction it works real well. Got the low powered religious stations on 48, 50 & 62(RF31).
 

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Personally I'd stay clear of the amplified antennas like you've linked, if you need to feed more than a couple TVs I'd just use a distribution amp with a non amplified more directional antenna. I also preferred an attic mount, somewhat for looks but more for durability of keeping it out of the elements(wind, snow, etc.). My antenna is many years old but looks like new.
I know someone in Burnsville who went with an Antennas Direct C2 in the attic and it's working quite well but if I went that route I'd opt for the C4 which while it costs more you may be able to get by without a amp for feeding multiple TVs, it will also give you a better chance of getting CH41 out of Big Lake/St. Cloud. Don't be afraid of directional antennas, just aim them in the general direction of Shorview(probably NNE) and use your TVs signal strength meter for fine tuning. A drawback of omni-directional antennas is they are lower gain for a given size and they are much more prone to multipath, probably your biggest issue when mounting in a attic. Like the CM4228 8 bay bowtie, the C2 or C4 are listed as being UHF but in our area they work just fine for high VHF for KMSP9.
Here's a link to the C4, the same place sells the C2.
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=C4-CJM&ss=438909
Well I decided to get in gear and pick up an antenna locally for the Super Bowl and found the Clearstream 2v got pretty good reviews (as well as claiming UHF/VHF) and is also sold at the local Best Buy. It's an indoor/outdoor unit and thought it would be very easy to reuse my DirectTV wiring already run to the roof, install this unit facing NNE. Bought it Saturday night and of course it snowed Sunday, so I bailed on climbing on the roof. Currently sitting above the fireplace in the rear of the house pointing towards the front it pulls in 48 channels according to the auto tuner. No issues yet with any channels. I can only imagine once it's on the roof and not having to "go through" the entire house it will work even better.

Shift_grind,

There is a thread dedicated specifically to helping people choose and install antennas for OTA. I included the link in the above response. Seriously, if you're trying to figure out the best options for antennas - at your specific address - you'll quickly get all the answers you need there. This thread is more focused on what's being broadcast OTA locally.
Thanks for the link. Sorry if I mucked up the thread, just looking for locals recommendation.
 

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Thanks for the link. Sorry if I mucked up the thread, just looking for locals recommendation.
And just to clarify - I wasn't trying to play Thread Police as much as help point you to the best place to answer your questions. While local input is always nice, the TVFool.com site I recommended ( link here ) will give you a very accurate report for your specific address, antenna height, location on the roof vs. attic vs indoors, etc. Here is an example if you haven't seen one.





If you post that detailed report to the antenna thread I already mentioned, the gurus there will be able to make very specific antenna recommendations for you, despite not being local.

Either way, just trying to be of help. Good luck.
 

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Any word on when WCCO will start with 4.2 Decades. I see about half of the O&O CBS stations have gone with the block programming, available until the Monday, May 25th "said" launch of the channel. Just wondering.
 

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Any word on when WCCO will start with 4.2 Decades. I see about half of the O&O CBS stations have gone with the block programming, available until the Monday, May 25th "said" launch of the channel. Just wondering.
unknown at this point. Wish they would add it soon
 

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I for one was glad to watch at least one more Grammys on our last full bandwidth channel. Even with full bandwidth I saw the occasional macroblocking, I can only imagine what it would have looked like on KSTP :eek::eek:
 

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Really? Even after the behavior exhibited by Kanye West and Madonna?
Thats what a Tivo is for :D For me it would be really hard to watch basically any TV live, it's nice to be able to watch a 3 1/2hr show in ~2hrs....and in the same quality it was broadcast.
Don't get me wrong, I like and watch quite a bit of the sub channels we get, particularly the ones on Hubbard, it's just I'd prefer them on their own bitstarved channel instead of sapping bandwidth from a HD network main. I don't mind watching Dragnet, Adam-12 or other old shows bitstarved but not something like a live awards show(or DWTS on KSTP) bitstarving really turns my stomach :(
 

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simple solution for KSTP

GET RID OF THAT ASININE MOBILE!!!! That is what is taking away sooooo much bandwidth. I was in Duluth over the weekend and saw WDIO and the picture is so much better than the crap they feed us on KSTP.
 

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simple solution for KSTP

GET RID OF THAT ASININE MOBILE!!!! That is what is taking away sooooo much bandwidth. I was in Duluth over the weekend and saw WDIO and the picture is so much better than the crap they feed us on KSTP.
What gets me about MDTV is for the .001 % of the people that have a receiver and actually watch it they probably only watch .01% of their TV on MDTV and for that .0001??% viewing time it ruins the HD viewing experience for the rest of the 99.9999% most of the time :( makes absolutely no sense IMO!
Now maybe MDTV is a nice revenue stream for KSTP as I assume they charge the other stations for carriage but you'd have to wonder how much they can charge for such a low viewership.....
 

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Buzzr TV to launch on 5/31/2015 on 9.4 KMSP. Wondering if there's a possibility BOUNCE will be picked up by anybody in the Twin Cities. Not a big deal to me, but it will be interesting to see what happens with the landscape of digital sub-stations (in the Twin Cities) and the plethora of sub-stations becoming available. Rabbitears.info just updated to show Buzzr TV "soon" on 9.4.
 

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Flipping through the channels the other day and I found that 17.1 is now absolutely pristine 1080i. Yet, I can't get seem to get an audio signal. I tried all the audio program settings on my '07 Samsung. Nothing. Anyone else have the same problem?
It's been HD for a while now, I credit unclehonkey for shaming them into switching over and upgrading....
My oldest set is a Sammy UN46C6500 from 2010 that decodes it although I do have an earlier Sony EDTV Plasma and some older HDTV STB From that era that I could rig the antenna to and see how/if it plays. All stuff from pre-2009 transition days when I was playing around DXing Rochester, La Crosse and Mason City. I haven't seen 10 since they went back to their old tower and VHF. Please just don't tell me you are picking up that 15 KW LP station in Rochester or I'll feel bad, it only comes in here with some big aluminum and a pre-amp....I have been following you in the RC/AL/MC thread since you were a young'n modding antennas and learning about TV. I assume you are going to school now in the cities?
 

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Did anybody watch last man standing on channel 5? Was the sound ok thru entire show? I watched on Comcast and sound went out half way thru show.

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