Intel 4600 HD Graphics dedicated memory?

dejavu619 · Oct 17, 2014

How much dedicated memory does Intel 4600 HD graphics have? I'm thinking of buying the i5 4400 processor for medium level gaming.

MeteorsRaining · Oct 17, 2014

1.7GB at max, its dynamic. but it'll not suffice for gaming (please specify what you mean by medium level).

Thaisnang · Oct 17, 2014

It does not have any dedicated memory it uses the RAM as its memory.

dejavu619 · Oct 17, 2014

Yes, I'm aware that the maximum is 1.7 GB. I wanted to play Star Wars: The Old Republic but apparently the game starts only if the internal graphics has a dedicated memory of at least 256 MB (though I need confirmation of this). So basically even if I have 8 GB of RAM sitting on my motherboard, SW:TOR won't start unless the integrated graphics itself has 256 MB.

Is there any way to determine what its dedicated memory is? By medium level I mean playing at medium to low settings at 720p (games like NFS: The Run, SW:TOR, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, etc)

Novuake · Oct 17, 2014

As mentioned, Intel Integrated HD graphics is not good enough.

Your best option is to fill out the below and we can try to help you :

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgrade-advice

HD 4600 does not have dedicated graphics to itself, it shares resources with your CPU and RAM. Which is why its just not good enough for gaming.

MeteorsRaining · Oct 17, 2014

Novuake pretty much said it all, HD has no dedicated graphics for itself and this guide can take you through your problem:
http://www.pvladov.com/2013/10/increase-intel-hd-graphics-dedicated-video-memory.html

dejavu619 · Oct 17, 2014

I tried running Star Wars: The Old Republic on my current laptop and when I clicked 'Play' it said that it was incompatible.

I have Intel HD Graphics. Sadly, the game seems to only be taking the 'dedicated' memory into consideration and not the shared memory. Is there a way to force the game to take the shared memory into account as well?

Dxdiag of current laptop:

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Time of this report: 10/17/2014, 15:15:48
Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_gdr.131030-1505)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: NE56R
BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 03.72.23V2.14
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B960 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 1864MB RAM
Page File: 1455MB used, 1560MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.16384 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0106&SUBSYS_06491025&REV_09
Display Memory: 1060 MB
Dedicated Memory: 128 MB
Shared Memory: 932 MB
Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id: LGD038E
Native Mode: 1366 x 768(p) (59.996Hz)
Output Type: Internal
Driver Name: igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumd32,igd10umd32,igd10umd32
Driver File Version: 9.17.0010.3347 (English)
Driver Version: 9.17.10.3347
DDI Version: 10.1
Feature Levels: 10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.2
Graphics Preemption: DMA
Compute Preemption: DMA
Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Applicable
Power P-states: Not Applicable
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 1/29/2014 23:02:36, 12617216 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-4246-11CF-867E-4326B7C2C435}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x0106
SubSys ID: 0x06491025
Revision ID: 0x0009
Driver Strong Name: oem1.inf:5f63e534c4a533dd:iSNBM0:9.17.10.3347

ci\ven_8086&dev_0106
Rank Of Driver: 00DE2001

How do I know if the i5 4440 good enough to run the game? How do I find out how much dedicated memory the 4600 graphics has? I wouldn't want a repeat of this incident to occur once I've made the purchase.

Would you suggest going for the AMD A8-6600K instead of the i5 processor?

game-debate.com shows that I can in fact run Star Wars: The Old Republic using intel HD graphics and there have been players who have run the game using even intel hd 3000.

I'll take a look at that guide and get back to you.

dejavu619 · Oct 17, 2014

Ok. Here are the answers:

Approximate purchase date - this month
Budget Range - INR 25,000
System usage - Gaming, browsing, watching videos
Buying monitor - No

Parts to upgrade - New motherboard, new processor, new GPU
Need to buy OS - No
Preferred website - www.flipkart.com
Location - Bangalore, India
Part preference - none as such
Overclocking - Maybe
SLI or Crossfire - Maybe
Monitor 1024 x 768
Reason for upgrade - Play games at medium to low settings. 720p is sufficient. Not looking for high settings, moderate is fine.
Games - Star Wars: The Old Republic, COD, Battlefield, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed (latest ones)

MeteorsRaining · Oct 17, 2014

CPU: i3 4130, 8k INR:
http://www.flipkart.com/intel-3-4-ghz-lga-1150-i3-4130-4th-generation-processor/p/itmdpgyxgggczgzp

MoBo: B85-D3H, 5.7k INR:
http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-b85-d3h-motherboard/p/itmdmzw9rhxygrjq

GPU: GTX 750 Ti 2GB MSI, 11.4k INR:
http://www.flipkart.com/msi-geforce-gtx-750ti-2-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdtpaatsqpfghr

Total: 25.1K

Performance: High-ultra on most titles on 720p, latest that is, enjoy

dejavu619 · Oct 17, 2014

That's a decent rig. Would you suggest 4 GB or 8 GB RAM to go with it? Don't worry, I can pay for the RAM at this point.

dejavu619 · Oct 17, 2014

And another question: How far down the line do you think I'll be in need of another upgrade?

MeteorsRaining · Oct 17, 2014

8GB will be my choice, in 2X4GB config. And you will do a couple years on high-ultra with decent FPS. And may slide down to medium-low after 3 years on then latest titles.

dejavu619 · Oct 19, 2014

Hey, there are plenty of GTX 750 Ti GPUs available. Any specific reason you chose the MSI one? Btw, I should add that my monitor is a Benq FP531. It has a VGA port.

MeteorsRaining · Oct 19, 2014

MSI is the cheapest 750 Ti available, and same performance compared to others. And it has a VGA port too.

dejavu619 · Oct 20, 2014

This one is cheaper than the MSI one. http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-gtx-750ti-2-gb-ddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdtth6ymguyapq?pid=GRCDTTH6YMGUYAPQ&otracker=from-search&srno=t_1&query=gtx+750+ti&ref=bfd0f484-7273-48f9-9b20-2f555e5f42cd

It doesn't have VGA out, but DVI output. Though it comes with a DVI to VGA adaptor. It has a higher clock speed too. Should I go for the Zotac one instead?

MeteorsRaining · Oct 20, 2014

I'd avoid adaptors, core speed difference will not make any noticible impact (on this card), 1-2 FPS at most. I'd stick with MSI.

dejavu619 · Oct 22, 2014

Can you suggest a cheap SMPS for the above configuration? Thanks

MeteorsRaining · Oct 22, 2014

Antec 450P, 2.7k INR, pretty cheap for the quality it offers.

dejavu619 · Oct 24, 2014

I was just checking if this rig could run Assassin's Creed Unity but it's not matching even the minimum requirements on game-debate.com. I've ordered the same as PC as you suggested except that I'll be going for the i3-4150 instead of the i3-4130

Nikolay Mitev · Oct 24, 2014

If the official requirements are true and Ubisoft don't optimize Unity you will need quite a lot more hardware.

dejavu619 · Oct 31, 2014

Btw, should this rig struggle to run even Watch Dogs?

dejavu619 · Nov 16, 2014

Just saw this video on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0JEAsZVTpk) and if that guy can run Unity on an Intel i3-2120 processor, I should be able to run it too on the i3-4150 with the same GPU he's using (GTX 750 Ti 2GB). Moreover, he has only 6GB RAM while mine would have 8GB RAM.

Guess I'm gonna go ahead and buy this game.

DevilDog69 · Jan 5, 2015

Novuake :

QUESTION: can I run 3 Monitors on the Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 VGA output with a VGA splitter?

ac130 · Jan 6, 2015

DevilDog69 :

The splitter will only mirror the output. You would need to get a different gpu for that configuration.

gramby · Apr 14, 2015

dejavu619 :

I play SWTOR on a Latitude E6440 that has 8GB RAM and the 4600 HD chip. Works fine. I've bumped the graphics up with no complaint but game play suffers (obviously) so I play in the lower graphics mode.

And yes, I realize this is a necro, but it comes up high in google results so having currently accurate information shouldn't be something that upsets people.

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