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While the optics look bad, has this been determined a hate crime? I just haven’t seen any evidence that race played a part yet? I see everyone and companies jump to it being a race-based crime yet no evidence of such yet. It seems counterproductive to fight police brutality which this clearly was if the source has not been determined. All I know is that Minnesota’s police manual says you can put your knee on the back but not on the neck while most large police departments say you can’t put your knee anywhere on the back.

@gamer7804,

Finally someone gets it. There is no doubt news organizations have flipped over every stone in this officer's life. No racism. Bad policing and/or brutality. But not racism. Yet that is the first place everyone went. From what we know the facts do not fit the narrative of racist cop so let's ignore the facts. However the reality is that thus far it is not an incident involving racism. Then again, people have skewed a great many facts to suit their wishes or to maintain what it is they want to believe is true. No one wants to admit they have been played by certain elements with an agenda. The WSJ article is behind a paywall but this piece discusses it.

https://www.dailywire.com/n...

Agree with alot of this. But don't forget everyone deserves a voice, to suggest otherwise creates a far bigger problem.

@gamer7804
Yes, there is no evidence show that the killing was driven by race. However, there are so many examples that prove that blacks (especially black men) get treated differently than whites for the same crime. THis is what you consider a systematic racism. You can easily google it and you will receive hundreds of example of this. I just saw a video of a white guy who resisted arrest, they had to go into his car, pulled him out and when he got out. He took the officers baton, hit the officer with it, got into the police cruiser and drove off. If that was a black man, guns would have been drawn, the black if lucky would have been tazered or would have been shot. This is just one example of systematic racism.

@sono

I agree with your opinion on the rioting bug if you think this issue is one black guy getting killed by a white guy then you're a disengenous idiot.

@Retroman

What a wonderfully bigoted statement, fucking racist. You do realize that "white supremacists" are an extreme minority, right? People like YOU are the problem. And that has absolutely nothing to do with you being Chinese. Imagine a white person typing that same fucking statement about any other race. Get your head out of your ass.

@Retroman

WTF did you just say? Your country literally removes blacks from movie posters, and imprisons muslims.

Unreal.

" Unfortunately racism will never change as long as white race think they are better then any race"

This is a huge part of the problem. Generalizing an entire group of people and assuming they think they are better then any other is " racist in itself " .

Racism will never change as long as you continually accuse an entire race of people of racism because of the color of their skin.

Problem is, now you aren't allowed to say you don't see color. When people lose their jobs, like an nba broadcaster because he was asked about blm, and said all lives matter every single one, and he was fired for that and called a racist. I saw quite a few activists talking about you have to see our color. So I am not sure what you are supposed to do now.

REMIX

from what I've seen from his comments this far, racism doesn't exist.....and people are only rioting because of this one death...... how naive is that.

It's weird to see non blacks getting caught rioting and vandalizing too......and ignored.......I even see some guts tackling two white women spray painting blm on a store front......I see some shady old white guy smashing windows.......these agents are efficient af and yes, blacks were looting too

The vast majority of people are generally pretty decent. There is a wide swath of opinions and world views for every matter under the sun, from complete indifference, to extremely proactive.

I dont think most people would look at this case and not feel like something wrong wasnt done. I think most would also not be for any kind of systematic discrimination.

But, I also believe that everyone, no matter how good, also has levels of unconscious bias formed through their own life experiences or exposure to any number of influences that may also make them discriminate either actively, or just think discriminatory thoughts. It may not be racism, but there are other isms or things that may be offensive.

This is just human nature, and sometimes its extreme and open. Other times people may think things, but not actively act on them in a discriminatory fashion.

It's just the nature of the beast, but in today's society, there is no in between, and everything is made into an us vs them scenario to the point where if I hear white privilege again, it just makes me wonder if a decade of college, multiple degrees, and working my ass off to prove I could do a job was worth the effort because I'm white. Then I look at all the white people who arwnt getting ahead in life, but blame others, and realize that i did the right things. Black people, and women do have more going against them, I'll readily admit. But at the same time, there are, nor should there be no free passes, anymore than there should be systematic application of holding others back over superficial things.

Anyhow, sorry for the side tangent rant. My mind tends to go into overdrive sometimes.

*** Facts of life..... Wake up to the Real world..... I'm Chinese ***

Man, that is not how you win an argument. I mean, China pretty much kicked out black individuals due to COVID concerns before Trump even went on his rants against China. They have a commercial where they wash a black guy into a Chinese guy. And they treat tourists like this https://www.nationalgeograp... .

"who don't see color"
That's not a good thing, if you don't see color, that means you don't see a part of a person. You need to see color, you just don't need to discriminate because of it.

@Veneno

Unfortunately, the "smart" or what we'll call moderate people who aren't on the extreme, rarely have their viewpoint discussed. They discuss it amongst themselves, in forums like these, but the media loves to show the extremes.

This is true in almost everything that is newsworthy nowadays. Us gamers have been seeing it with the SJW movement, and even the entirety of the console wars, is mostly two sides of the extreme expressing their opinions.

The vocal minority is making everything and everyone seem like they're completely irrational, and because of this, there is no middle ground that can be had. Generalizations and anecdotes rule the roost, and until the moderate center finally gets the attention that they probably should have above the extremes, it's not going to change.

2015?! That aged well.