X-Plane on a budget PC?

Everyone has different expectations, but I'm betting most wouldn't say "excellent" results on a low budget system unless budget is their biggest concern - more like "acceptable" if eye candy isn't your thing along with complex addons.

1 hour ago, xplane8 1 said:

But the original poster asked for GOOD results and I am experiencing better than just good.

I'm sure they are satisfying your needs, but they would likely not satisfy mine. So how can you call them 'good'? Or even better than good. You don't even know what good is for OP and which addons OP all wants. What is all that makes it a realistic experience? For me, for now, that is stock XP with VR. For OP it is XPRealistic or XPRealViewPro? XEnviro? Other alternative 'cloud engine'? 4K instead of 1080p? A $450-500 is the bare minimum.

Whatever, but still the original poster didn't say hey looking for eye candy  but just good xplane  performance. Besides xplane says that it runs on an much more outdated system than only 2 years ago. Besides why does everyone think in terms of updating computers instead of that Xplane 11.52 or 11.53 can yield better results than just building your own gaming computer and using the parts from parts stores? In other words it might be software is the issue not $$$$$ spent.

1 hour ago, xplane8 1 said:

But yes criticize HP since they are known for boring looks and home office computers!

Their 23" monitors with mat brushed looks are great.

Besides when a guy says realistic experience on VatSIM I have to be cautious. Maybe he is new when others have already experienced what they know sucks anyway!

 Besides being on the forum Is like living with your family at home. Never any respect and never two points of view the same ! Unless its picking two on one of coarse. Then God even said so.😇😄🤐🤢etc.etc.etc.

1 hour ago, xplane8 1 said:

Is like living with your family at home. Never any respect and never two points of view the same

My experience is different, both here and at home.

1 hour ago, xplane8 1 said:

 Besides being on the forum Is like living with your family at home. Never any respect and never two points of view the same ! Unless its picking two on one of coarse. Then God even said so.😇😄🤐🤢etc.etc.etc.

totally different than my experience also

Alright your just like having family now show some respect.

Me? Ok... respect... 🤘

@Kukeltje how does your XP11 perform in high density city areas with lots of addons, world objects etc.

That CPU you have is on my list of 5 CPUs I am considering for a new system:

• Ryzen 7 5900X
• Ryzen 7 5800X
• i7 11700K
• i7 10700K
• i5 11600K

1 hour ago, DV20Katana said:

@Kukeltje how does your XP11 perform in high density city areas with lots of addons, world objects etc.

That CPU you have is on my list of 5 CPUs I am considering for a new system:

• Ryzen 7 5900X
• Ryzen 7 5800X
• i7 11700K
• i7 10700K
• i5 11600K

 

 

Can't tell you because:
- I don't have a lot of addons
- You don't state which addons
- You don't state which other settings
- You don't state which resolution
- You don't state what you mean by 'how it performs'. 's.m.a.r.t.' is the way to go
 

But even if you state the last four, the first remains.

On 4/12/2021 at 7:57 AM, Gason said:

Fast processor with  slow memory is like fast sport engine with old non-sport gearbox. In general it works but how ...

Look  here:  https://gadgetgang.com/best-ram-for-intel-core-i7-11700k/
Don't be suggested by specific memory models but rather by their clock speeds. Better at beginning to buy less but faster RAM - later you can always buy next chip/extend memory.

Regards,
Piotr

 

You are absolutely correct, however as always it comes down to cost. I guess I will save a bit more to get the fastest RAM I can. 

10 minutes ago, DV20Katana said:

You are absolutely correct, however as always it comes down to cost. I guess I will save a bit more to get the fastest RAM I can. 

Not the fastest...  optimal. 4000 is imo too expensive. 3600 that you can OC a little is cheaper and still very good

Just now, Kukeltje said:

Not the fastest...  optimal. 4000 is imo too expensive. 3600 that you can OC a little is cheaper and still very good

Thanks for this info, I've made a note of it. I did see that 4000 one and it is $$$$. 

4 hours ago, DV20Katana said:

That CPU you have is on my list of 5 CPUs I am considering for a new system:

• Ryzen 7 5900X
• Ryzen 7 5800X
• i7 11700K
• i7 10700K
• i5 11600K

Do you plan overclocking them, maybe?
I ask, because standard memory for them (Ryzens and 11700K,  other Intels are even weaker) are DDR4-3200, with higher speeds also latency effect should be taken into consideration.

Regards,
Piotr

I am hoping to upgrade my system listed below in my signature file but the GPUs that I am interested in is not available anywhere. I would like to go big so this new system will be good for many years to come. I would like to go with the AMD Ryzen 9 CPU and 32GB RAM with either a RTX3070 or RTX3080. Motherboard, not sure what at this time. I am running X-Plane 11 and FSX but hopefully I will go for MSFS2020 eventually. So my next system needs to be on steroids to handle these flight sims.

At this time, my system runs reasonably well (average of 20-30+ FPS) but at times, the FPS will drop way down to under 20 FPS depending on the cloud cover conditions, the aircraft I am using and the many plugins running. 

41 minutes ago, Gason said:

Do you plan overclocking them, maybe?
I ask, because standard memory for them (Ryzens and 11700K,  other Intels are even weaker) are DDR4-3200, with higher speeds also latency effect should be taken into consideration.

Regards,
Piotr

Before you go looking at the 11700k id go look at some some reviews, They suck unless you want a heater in your house. They are just a desperate attempt at intel to get something on the market, as for video cards. anything from 2070 up will do, if you think a 3090 or 3080 will make things better you are fooling yourself. All about raytracing and money making.

7 hours ago, Bikerg said:

I am hoping to upgrade my system listed below in my signature file but the GPUs that I am interested in is not available anywhere. I would like to go big so this new system will be good for many years to come. I would like to go with the AMD Ryzen 9 CPU and 32GB RAM with either a RTX3070 or RTX3080.

This is not a budget pc, so not related to tge question. Cheers

7 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

Before you go looking at the 11700k id go look at some some reviews, They suck unless you want a heater in your house. They are just a desperate attempt at intel to get something on the market, as for video cards. anything from 2070 up will do, if you think a 3090 or 3080 will make things better you are fooling yourself. All about raytracing and money making.

This is a reaction to a post that is not a budget pc. Way too many off topic posts in here (general problem in the forums here). I did too btw.

7 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

Before you go looking at the 11700k id go look at some some reviews, They suck unless you want a heater in your house. They are just a desperate attempt at intel to get something on the market, as for video cards. anything from 2070 up will do, if you think a 3090 or 3080 will make things better you are fooling yourself. All about raytracing and money making.

So, for given  memories DDR4-4000 and DDR4-3600 running as underclocked at 3200  it's necessary to calculate latency and compare them with latency of given DDR4-3200 models.
It's possible that 3600/4000 could be  slower workihg as underclocked.
IMHO at such a case it's waste of money to buy more expensive memories (better add the money to buy better graphics card).
I still use old i7-4470** with old DDR3-1600 memories and didn't buy DDR3-2400 just because of latency problem.

Regards,
Piotr

**it's enough for my purposes (mainly flying online)

1 hour ago, Gason said:

So, for given  memories DDR4-4000 and DDR4-3600 running as underclocked at 3200  it's necessary to calculate latency and compare them with latency of given DDR4-3200 models.
It's possible that 3600/4000 could be  slower workihg as underclocked.
IMHO at such a case it's waste of money to buy more expensive memories (better add the money to buy better graphics card).
I still use old i7-4470** with old DDR3-1600 memories and didn't buy DDR3-2400 just because of latency problem.

Regards,
Piotr

**it's enough for my purposes (mainly flying online)

We are talking about a 11700K not a 4470. 3600 is very well supported on modern motherboards. My 10700K based system runs with 3600 in 3600 mode, not underclocked at all, can even overclock, did not try yet.

Just now, Kukeltje said:

We are talking about a 11700K not a 4470. 3600 is very well supported on modern motherboards. My 10700K based system runs with 3600 in 3600 mode, not underclocked at all, can even overclock, did not try yet.

It was only an example that isn't always necessary to buy super-hiper maxed out newest hardware to get the assumed goals. DDR3-2400 were significantly more expensive than DDR3-1600 when I bought the hardware.
I don't know are they  such differences in prices between DDR4-3200 and 3600/4000  but IMHO maybe worth to calculate/consider is it not better to buy 3200 and save some money to get greater budget for a better graphics card.
Usually graphics card is easily transferred to newer computer in case of changing, in opposite to processor and memories.
But I'm as the most pragmatic in life as it's only possible** ... 

Regards,
Piotr

**my wife always talk it's my greatest disadvantage 😜

Back then is not now...  but your suggestion that 3600  needs to be underclocked is what I responded to. There is just no need for thar. And OP could easily go for a 9600K then, with 32MB/3200, cheap motherboard . Since the motherboard of the I11 will not be running an I12. So that might even validate getting an AMD or... waaaay more choices to be made if some money is going to be saved.

Take a kid into the computer store and see what he wants. Will he pick the best or what his friends want? 9 out of 10 times its whats cool and mostly based on being popular! Then ask dady whats best afterwards.