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Subject: Advice Please -
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:39:26 04/20/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.57.112) I am someone who has been involved with MAO for about 20 years now both as a titleholder and a volunteer, and I have never encountered a bullying as bad as this. A contestant who is preparing for a state pageant came to me for some advice, she, as well as about 10 other girls, have received threatening text messages from another contestant. These messages consist of fat and skinny shaming, death threats, and messages telling these girls to harm themselves. It completely goes against the MAO code of conduct. The phone number these messages are sent from trace directly back to one specific contestant. She has turned over everything to her state board, but the board isn�t doing anything. She�s been advised by others to go directly to the national board, but doesn�t want to see the state directors get in trouble because she loves them. I told her to go to law enforcement and she did, but she doesn�t want to press criminal charges. She said she would prefer this person get mental health help rather than see them face jail time. This bully has caused girls to not return to MAO and has terrified girls who are planning on competing at states this summer. The contestant who reach out to me for advice said she�s scared, not so much for herself, but for the girls who are afraid to speak up and come to her asking to remain anonymous. She said she knows she has probably quashed all chances of her winning because she�s now the �face� of the drama, but she doesn�t want any of this to come back on the other girls. Now I�m hoping this state board isn�t so awful as to keep her from winning because she stood up for herself and others, but I don�t know them. She�s always spoke highly of them, but now has no idea who she can trust because she feels like she is being ousted and shunned by people on the organization, including her previous local directors. I truly believe this young lady has a shot at winning if the state board doesn�t keep it from her, I think she�s exactly what this organization need right now, especially since she�s the only one willing to stand up to this bully. But as for the bullying being handled I don�t know how to help her. And right now that�s my biggest priority is keeping her and those other girls safe. Any advice on how to help wrangle this situation? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This needs to be nipped in the bud pronto! The state directors may be lovely people, but nationals needs to know NOW. Psychopaths do compete in the MAO and they need to be stopped. I competed with a young lady who was obviously very troubled even though she put on a smile and a cutesy face for everyone, the pageant patty of all pageant patties. She ended up winning state, went to Miss America and thankfully didn't place, but she was/is very well known in the pageant community. This young lady grew up and married and is in major trouble for all kinds of crimes, including stalking behavior. These girls compete, they win and it reinforces their criminal behavior (NT) -- No name, 19:10:10 04/20/24 Sat (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111) Is it a state pageant that's coming up soon? I would report it to nationals. If this girl ends up winning, then it looks like sour grapes (NT) -- No name, 19:15:58 04/20/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Wait a minute, someone is actually texting death threats? And, the person receiving them doesn't want to press charges!!! If you really want to keep these girls safe, stop worrying about this in the context of MAO and think of it as a serious issue that could lead to real tragedy! (NT) -- No name, 19:20:52 04/20/24 Sat (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) She told me that she didn�t want to press charges because she didn�t wanna ruin this girl�s life. She knows she just got into graduate school and that this person is all talk. She has been harassing her for years and others and has never physically hurt anyone she has pushed or slapped a couple people from what I�ve heard but nothing that anyone can prove. She did say if it does escalate then she absolutely will press criminal charges but until then it just seems too much to go through all of the legal proceedings. A lot of the girls want Remain anonymous and she doesn�t want to push anyone else to come forward. Right now she has done everything in her power. She even tried to take out a restraining order, but her state doesn�t offer that as an option unfortunately (NT) -- No name, 22:31:47 04/20/24 Sat (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) We all know that you're talking about Victoria Vespico. She fat shames contestants. She rape shames victims. She was to be disqualified in 2020 when she competed at Miss Berks and aunt was a volunteer with the state board and nothing was done about it. The state ED is a functioning alcoholic. And the ED Emertis had the Miss PA Franchise removed from him in 1994 snd given to Marlene Wynne because he was fixing the pageant and using nonprofit funds for his own personal bills. Somehow he weaseled his was back in because no one from the Miss America or Miss Pennsylvania 1994 Leadership is still involved. That group is a disaster and needs to go. Enabling bullies and alcoholism should not be tolerated. (NT) -- No name, 20:03:25 04/20/24 Sat (NoHost/79.110.54.254) Honestly, I don�t know the bullies name so I cannot confirm or deny that. She didn�t want to give me too many specifics just showed me the text messages and some other things that were sent to her. Also, that�s a big accusation about the state ED. I�m in Illinois and I have never heard anything bad About this state and I know the girl that�s competing loves the state directors and board. She�s just nervous about going into the competition this summer facing all of the backlash for coming forward. (NT) -- No name, 22:37:56 04/20/24 Sat (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) The biggest problem I see is the statement "she doesn�t want to press criminal charges. She said she would prefer this person get mental health help rather than see them face jail time". This is the EXACT thing that bullies rely upon, and is a lame excuse to avoid conflict. Maybe as part of the court-ordered punishment, counseling and anger management would be part of the sentence, in avoidance of jail time. And as long as people are reluctant to press charges, the bully will keep doing it until they are held accountable. In addition, if this bully left a trail of text messages or emails, I would contact the State E.D. and forward them the evidence. Let the state program know what they have among their local titleholders and make them address this. If they force this young woman to step aside, they are ultimately protecting all other women in the program. (NT) -- No name, 22:17:41 04/20/24 Sat (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) As stated above, she has already turned everything in to the state ED and was told that there is nothing they can do. I�ve tried to convince her to press criminal charges, but she said she doesn�t want to go through a trial. A few years back she went through, a different trial after she was sexually assaulted. And she said that this person is all talk and no action that she doesn�t want to go through that again or put the other girls through that because none of them want to go through it. She did try to take out a restraining order when she talk to law-enforcement, but unfortunately , her state doesn�t have that as an option. They only offer a PFA but unfortunately this doesn�t qualify according to law-enforcement. She said she mainly wants to protect the other girls. She doesn�t care so much about getting the text messages as much as she cares about the others, especially since a few of them are minors or were minors when they received the threats. (NT) -- No name, 22:26:04 04/20/24 Sat (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) blah, blah blah..........she's at a point of she either presses charges or enables it to continue. The rest of this just sounds like a string of excuses. Plus, if she went to the State ED and they did nothing, then it's time to go to nationals, and to also decide if you want to compete in a system that allows this to happen. If they won't address bullying, then what would this state organization be like to work with for a year if you become Miss State? My 2 cents. (NT) -- No name, 22:49:11 04/20/24 Sat (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) Agree, the OP isn�t going to listen to any advice offered from this site. (NT) -- No name, 23:44:13 04/20/24 Sat (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) MAO will take forever to investigate and make any kind of decision. Go to the Authorities. Tell the girls you are doing it for their safety. (NT) -- Stop being complacent.Police should be notified before some girl gets seriously hurt Stop enabling!, 00:59:30 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/12.18.234.2) Does your local TV have an �on your side� type of investigative reporting? Some issues take the media getting involved to get movement. (NT) -- No name, 07:42:52 04/21/24 Sun (mobile-107-77-206-83.mobile.att.net/107.77.206.83) I�ll try to convince her again. I don�t live in her state so I�m not sure law enforcement where I�m at will do anything. I believe she or one of the other girls has to make the report. She did try to take out a restraining order but they said they don�t offer that and she doesn�t qualify for a PFA. I will talk to my local law enforcement at least and see if they can give me options to relay to her and will try again to convince her to press charges. (NT) -- No name, 12:00:28 04/21/24 Sun (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) If the people who are receiving the threats or the bullying aren't willing to step up and do anything about it, there's nothing your or anyone else can do for them. My advice is to just let this pass, and if the topic is brought up to you again, just simply say "until you and the other contestants are willing to step forward, there's nothing anyone can do to help you. This is in your hands." What good is talking to your local law enforcement going to do when you don't live in the same state? You seem more interested in putting a stop to this than the women on the bad end of the bullying. (NT) -- No name, 12:59:29 04/21/24 Sun (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) Look, here's the thing. You KNOW the right thing to do -- go to police and the national MAO. BOTH. But the young lady you're mentoring, while she likely has a heart of gold and means well, is blowing this out of proportion. There will likely not be any kind of trial. What will likely happen is that some cop goes to talk to this troubled girl, possibly even arrests her. She may be charged with some misdemeanor that she ends up copping to and gets months of community service. This is not going to be some drawn out court case where she gets hauled off for 10 years. It just won't. You have to stop making excuses for not doing the right thing (NT) -- No name, 12:57:08 04/21/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I did speak to her today. She said she had already made a police report in two states, because she�s received the text messages multiple times. She said that the officer taking the report told her she could press charges for harassment and terroristic threats. I think she�s worried about the terroristic threat part that�s why she�s nervous about pressing charges. It�s a minimum for a misdemeanor of terroristic threats in her state is 5 years in prison with a fine between $1500 and 10k (NT) -- No name, 13:29:11 04/21/24 Sun (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) Well then, she needs to make a choice. She and others are the victims of a crime. If she refuses to press charges, it enables the alleged criminal to continue. My interpretation of her excuses is that she doesn't feel it's that big a deal. I say this because she refuses to press charges and she also refuses to just report to the national MAO board because she likes the state directors or some such nonsense. That is not strength of character, at least not one I'd expect in a Miss State. Looking the other way is why bullies succeed. It's a shame she's just wanting to do nothing but I don't see how you can do it for her. You could report to MAO, but without her cooperation and the cooperation of the other victims, it's likely futile (NT) -- No name, 13:40:31 04/21/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Apparently she reported to the national board but has not heard back yet� she didn�t tell anyone and didn�t want anyone to know until she heard back, I am still trying to convince her to press charges (NT) -- No name, 16:17:23 04/21/24 Sun (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) She absolutely needs to be reported to the Director's! Screw how nice they are, because I find it very difficult to believe that the Director's are clueless to this situation. This whole situation is this particular contestant's doing. Screw the fact that she's in grad school LOL! This girl needs to be put in her place before her beavior gets more out of hand. (NT) -- No name, 14:34:57 04/21/24 Sun (d-74-81-218-42.oh.cpe.breezeline.net/74.81.218.42) she is not getting anyone in trouble by reporting this They got themself in trouble (NT) -- No name, 00:12:25 04/22/24 Mon (syn-076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Sorry� Not to put a kink in things� But has anyone thought that perhaps the OP is making this up? That the text messages have been doctored? And that perhaps she has claimed she has been bullied for years in this system, other systems, and in other states. I agree report to the police because they can check phone records and settle this for once and alll. The truth always prevails - whichever way it is. Stop the excuses and complaining about it either follow the proper procedures and report it to police.. let them handle it - they will get to the bottom of it. Please stop coming on here to complain. If this is a real issue, it needs to be dealt with.. and to the person who is advising you I think you should also get your there�s two sides to every story. (NT) -- �, 10:34:34 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/194.124.76.17) bully -- Noname, 13:02:07 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/146.75.222.0) There is proof and phone records� proof has been provided and no one has responded. There are about 10 girls who have filed grievances with no response both to the local and the state directors. (NT) -- No name, 18:42:28 04/22/24 Mon (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) Integrity -- Dawn Cinti, 10:08:51 04/22/24 Mon (39.sub-174-198-6.myvzw.com/174.198.6.39) I tegrity -- No name, 10:59:18 04/22/24 Mon (39.sub-174-198-6.myvzw.com/174.198.6.39) Duplicate post (NT) -- No name, 11:19:13 04/22/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) "For someone to suggest that a Miss America program title holder is concerned about her not getting a fair shake during the state competition is totally-- REASONABLE!" Your 'MAO is unimpeachable' attitude is total gaslighting! We've been here for a few years, too. You state "This so-called victim has been told numerous times to..." --Oops, you just outed yourself! How would you know who this is or what was said to them?? But here you are giving an exclamation point riddled lecture on a pageant gossip board while shoveling the shit yourself! Your righteousness is actually arrogance and entitlement, and that's why you're so miffed. (NT) -- AND FOR THE ILLITERATES- SLANDER is spoken; LIBEL is written., 13:04:55 04/22/24 Mon (ns565314.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.107) that�s because she�s the bully�s LD. Don�t let her fool ya! (NT) -- no name, 14:42:15 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/146.75.222.1) The fact that you believe this girl is lying about being bullied is shocking Dawn. You were her local director more than once and you know who she is. She has filed a grievance, I overlooked the email that was sent with the information. Numerous girls have filed grievances and nothing has been done. A police report has been made, and phone records were offered up, but no one has responded. You victim blaming the young woman who you yourself mentored is absolutely abhorrent. No wonder she doesn�t know who she can trust anymore. (NT) -- No name, 18:40:52 04/22/24 Mon (157-138-64-38.clients.gthost.com/38.64.138.157) Dawn Cinti, you were the director of at least 2 ladies who have been bullied by Victoria and you have direct knowledge of it. Integrity is having Victoria's aunt as a sponsor and defending the bully over $$$$ vs doing the right thing. (NT) -- No name, 20:07:25 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/98.96.230.37) Dawn Cinti, one of your former teens was rape shamed and threatened by Victoria and you were alerted to it multiple times through both verbal and written means. Not to mention you were alerted the fat shaming and rape shaming Victoria did at states last year. The fact that you�re defending her and want her as a representative of your program is on you, not the victims. (NT) -- No name, 21:02:27 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.76.233) LIARS -- No name, 21:21:23 04/22/24 Mon (c-73-130-221-154.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/73.130.221.154)

Subject: Pageant winners who went on to be Soap stars
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:43:20 04/17/24 Wed (c-174-179-58-117.hsd1.va.comcast.net/174.179.58.117) I came to volunteer for the MAO in the mid 80�s through the 90�s, and was a big soap opera fan too. So I loved following the young ladies who competed in the MAO and USA pageant systems, as they entered the acting world through soaps. I know there were dozens and dozens who did act in soaps, so I thought it would be a fun thread to recall them. My first two offerings: Mary Ellen Stuart, Miss Arkansas 1982, who competed against Debbie Maffet, and was a top ten finalist that year. She took over the role of Frannie on As The World Turns, from future Oscar winner Julianne Moore, and played the role from 1989-1992. Gorgeous lady. And I also submit Bobbie Eakes, Miss Georgia 1982. Bobbie also competed at Miss America that same year, and shared a spot in the top ten with Mary Ellen. She then went on to first play Macy on The Bold & Beautiful from 1989-2003, but also played Krystle on All My Children from 2003-2011. Both gorgeous, multi talented, and were great in these roles! Who else can you remember? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Miss USA, Kelli McCarty was on Passions. Gina Tognoni, Miss Rhode Island Teen USA, was on Y&R and Guiding Light. (NT) -- No name, 09:33:20 04/17/24 Wed (212.45.80.212.not-configure-rpt.almanet.kz/212.45.80.212) Gina was also on One Life to Live on ABC. (NT) -- VE, 05:24:41 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.122.241.38) Karen Moncrieff, Miss Illinois 1985 was on Santa Barbara for a few years. (NT) -- No name, 12:59:22 04/17/24 Wed (NoHost/148.59.75.52) What about the gorgeous Deborah Shelton who was on Dallas several years. She was Miss USA 1970. (NT) -- Pageant fan, 13:42:27 04/17/24 Wed (67-197-35-10.cm.ftmlsc.dyn.comporium.net/67.197.35.10) Lynn Herring plays Lucy Coe on General Hospital, who was Miss Virginia USA 1977. (NT) -- No name, 17:44:23 04/17/24 Wed (ue.tmodns.net/172.58.207.49) Jennifer Gareis was Miss NY USA 1994 and went on to start in both The Young & the Restless and The Bold & the Beautiful. (NT) -- No name, 19:47:34 04/17/24 Wed (syn-067-253-154-035.res.spectrum.com/67.253.154.35) Jessica Collins, Miss NY Teen 1988 starred on the Young and Restless (NT) -- No name, 10:28:03 04/18/24 Thu (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) Judith McConnell, Miss Pennsylvania 1965 had a long career in TV - Including soaps such as Santa Barbara, Another World etc. She won a nonfinalist talent award for her portrayal of Joan of Arc. -- (click in for link), 13:51:09 04/18/24 Thu (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Tonya Walker, Miss MD USA 1980 played Olivia St John on General Hospital from 1988 thru 2017. Fun fact, she is the older sister of Tammy Walker who was a top ten finalist at Miss America in 1987. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:10 04/18/24 Thu (c-174-179-58-117.hsd1.va.comcast.net/174.179.58.117) General Hospital or One Life to Live? (NT) -- No name, 12:19:46 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/148.59.75.52) She also played a character on One Life to Live, Alex Olanov. Played that role from 1990-2011, so there must have been overlap! (NT) -- No name, 19:39:44 04/22/24 Mon (c-174-179-58-117.hsd1.va.comcast.net/174.179.58.117) Lee Meriwether played Ruth Martin on All My Children for several years. (NT) -- No name, 21:46:16 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.84.78) Shirley Jones, Miss Pittsburgh 1952, played Colleen Brady on Days of our Lives in 2008. (NT) -- No name, 22:12:50 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.84.78) Terri Goff (TX- 1980) was on Search for Tomorrow for a few years. (NT) -- No name, 12:00:08 04/19/24 Fri (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) It's Terri Eoff and she was also on "All My Children" for a while too. (NT) -- No name, 12:19:09 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/148.59.75.52) Tthanks for the correction. I don't know how I did that. Eoff also appeared for a couple seasons of the Mickey Mouse Club reboot in the early 90's. (NT) -- No name, 15:14:28 04/19/24 Fri (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) Jane Badler, Miss New Hampshire 1972 played Melinda Cramer on One Life To Live. Lynn Topping, Miss Florida 1969, played Chris Foster Brooks om The Young & The Restless. (NT) -- No name, 20:13:58 04/19/24 Fri (syn-184-088-013-212.res.spectrum.com/184.88.13.212) Pageant winners in soaps -- Tim, 12:25:23 04/20/24 Sat (40.sub-174-207-160.myvzw.com/174.207.160.40) Diahann Carroll -- Tim, 20:15:35 04/20/24 Sat (151.sub-174-207-169.myvzw.com/174.207.169.151) Meg Bennett just passed away? What is her connection? (NT) -- No name, 13:36:01 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/4.42.104.10)

Subject: Miss Connecticut has 4 contestants!!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:49:25 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/32.211.4.171) Teen has 8 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wow�that�s pathetic. (NT) -- No name, 17:53:20 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/108.147.2.124) Can not even find a website! Who are the 4?? (NT) -- No name, 18:20:04 04/21/24 Sun (c-174-162-41-178.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/174.162.41.178) Miss Connecticut has 4 contestants!! -- No name, 18:58:13 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/32.211.4.171) It's www.missct.org (NT) -- No name, 22:13:59 04/21/24 Sun (c-66-31-94-95.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/66.31.94.95) I checked on the website and no contestants have appeared there. I also checked on FB page but nothing. (NT) -- No name, 03:32:12 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/120.28.65.135) program stinks. had a decent run a few years ago but all downhill since. (NT) -- sonia, 20:19:20 04/21/24 Sun (ool-182dea82.dyn.optonline.net/24.45.234.130) with the state of the pageant who would want to cpmpete (NT) -- No name, 23:40:48 04/21/24 Sun (syn-076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Hardly anyone wants anything to do with it. It needs a clean sweep. People have been saying this for years and nothing ever changes. (NT) -- No name, 07:58:28 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/108.147.2.124) Maybe there could have last minute addition like Mackenzie Kern that she did win in WY last year. (NT) -- No name, 23:45:04 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/120.28.65.135) If I were on the fence, I would jump in. (NT) -- sonia, 08:57:12 04/22/24 Mon (ool-182dea82.dyn.optonline.net/24.45.234.130) Delegates are Nicole Funk, Monica Fenwick, Lindsey Savko, and Margaret Carpenter Dove. (NT) -- No name, 18:39:21 04/22/24 Mon (c-174-162-41-178.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/174.162.41.178) 46 colleges in Connecticut. 8 county's. Really think every College everwhere should have a delegate, its a scholarship pageant. (NT) -- No name, 18:53:28 04/22/24 Mon (c-174-162-41-178.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/174.162.41.178) I just can't imagine a state pageant with only 4 contestants. It doesn't pay to go through all the effort of staging the pageant. Can't believe the attendance would be all that great, either. Thankfully, our state doesn't have that problem. (NT) -- No name, 19:22:41 04/22/24 Mon (184-97-17-103.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.17.103)

Subject: Who is attending Mallory Hagan's wedding?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:14:08 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/155.70.52.173) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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or attended? (NT) -- No name, 15:19:22 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/155.70.52.173) when is it and who is she marrying (NT) -- No name, 16:19:48 04/22/24 Mon (syn-076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Best Wishes to Mallory. (NT) -- No name, 18:41:44 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/64.225.23.7)

Subject: Judith Ford 1969
Author: LOVEY HOWELL III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:21:20 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/68.181.60.0) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I love that dress with the glitter tights. I mean, how do you not, so cute. (NT) -- No name, 17:38:49 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/165.1.200.181)

Subject: Miss VT & Miss NH
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:45:33 04/10/24 Wed (c-24-91-213-71.hsd1.nh.comcast.net/24.91.213.71) Miss VT and Miss NH are fast approaching! Predictions for top 10? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Meera Seary or Sophia Parker for Vermont. Jana El Sayed or Corinne Kelly for New Hampshire. (NT) -- No name, 17:04:06 04/10/24 Wed (c-174-162-41-178.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/174.162.41.178) Emma Anderson is my choice (NT) -- No name, 19:54:11 04/10/24 Wed (64-25-221-232.static.firstlight.net/64.25.221.232) Miss Vermont Contestants: 1. Emma Bryan (2023) 2. Shannon Kelley (2023) 3. Zoe Bernstein (2023 Miss VT Teen 2nd RU) 4. Janie Marek 5. Emma Anderson (2023 � 3rd RU) (2021 Miss VT Teen) 6. Sophia Parker (2023) (2015 Miss VT Teen) 7. Emily Benz (2023) (2022) 8. Meara Seery (2023 � 2nd RU) (2021) 9. Hannah Roque (2023 � 4th RU) (2022) (2019 � 2nd RU) 10. Abagail Hunter (2022 Miss VT Teen) (NT) -- No name, 13:14:16 04/11/24 Thu (c-24-147-78-104.hsd1.vt.comcast.net/24.147.78.104) Who was last year's 1st RU and what happened to her? (NT) -- No name, 14:27:12 04/11/24 Thu (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Her name was Malia and she is not competing this year. (NT) -- No name, 20:21:17 04/11/24 Thu (64-25-221-232.static.firstlight.net/64.25.221.232) Good luck to the Miss Vermont Org and all the Contestants this weekend (NT) -- No name, 13:15:58 04/12/24 Fri (c-73-142-196-158.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/73.142.196.158) Any update on Miss VT? Do we have a top 10 or top 5? (NT) -- No name, 16:38:12 04/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Top 5 Emma Bryan, Meara, Abigail, Sophia, Emily (NT) -- No name, 16:44:49 04/14/24 Sun (mobile-107-77-205-131.mobile.att.net/107.77.205.131) Do we have a winner? What's happening for the teens? (NT) -- No name, 17:14:35 04/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) The pageant was streamed, how about truly supporting the organization and paying for it instead of coming on here demanding free information (NT) -- No name, 06:07:32 04/15/24 Mon (NoHost/195.85.78.179) Oh my, you must be new to the pageant world or to Voy. No one "demanded" free information. It's a FAN forum. Of course we're going to ask who won. Some of us don't have the luxury of paying to stream every state pageant. Some of us volunteer in our own state and sometimes spend our own money on the girls. Some of us volunteer countless hours locally so we DO support the organization, but don't have the money to watch all the other state pageants. No one is asking for information that's hidden. It's literally PUBLIC information that I was asking for in the moment because I love pageants and I love to know who won the first state pageant of the season. Maybe next time, consider someone else's circumstances. It takes just as much or less effort to be nice than it does to be nasty (NT) -- No name, 08:43:35 04/15/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) The stream was $25, if you consider that a luxury price pageants aren�t for you. (NT) -- No name, 11:13:08 04/15/24 Mon (90.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.90) It isn't just $25. It's $25 PER PAGEANT. If I was to watch all the state pageants in the country, that would be a small fortune to me. So yes, it is a luxury (NT) -- No name, 13:12:41 04/15/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Well lucky for you many of the states don�t stream, or are on pageantslive for $30 a month. Just say you�re too poor for this sport and move on. (NT) -- No name, 13:21:44 04/15/24 Mon (90.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.90) Different poster. You're a complete and total asshole, you know that? The reason people don't support the organization is because of low class garbage like you. Just goes to show that money can take the girl out of the trailer park, but it won't take trailer park out of the girl (NT) -- No name, 17:24:29 04/15/24 Mon (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111) Swearing while simultaneously calling people trailer trash. Hello pot, meet kettle. Tell me you can�t afford $25 either without telling me. LOL (NT) -- No name, 18:58:37 04/15/24 Mon (90.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.90) You consider 'asshole' a 'swear word'? Maybe to a 10-yo, lol. I think, as a fully functional adult, that you are acting like a cunt. And you made a logical fallacy there, too. Grow up. (NT) -- No name, 13:25:40 04/22/24 Mon (ns565314.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.107) Asshole is objectively a swear word. (NT) -- No name, 14:07:12 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/107.123.1.129) Whoever you are, thank you! I don't understand what some people get out of being jerks to total strangers online. You must have a pretty miserable life to come to a pageant board and put others down just because they asked about the results of a pageant. That's literally why we're all here (NT) -- No name, 19:12:40 04/15/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I�m not new to the pageant world I�m calling out how �fans� say they support and won�t spend the $25 yo ACTUALLY support the program. (NT) -- No name, 11:46:22 04/15/24 Mon (c-73-126-44-26.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/73.126.44.26) So I am guessing you don't know the pageant results either? LoL!!!! (NT) -- No name, 13:02:12 04/15/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.93.218) My goodness the vitriol for asking who won!?!? It's because of people like YOU that this board isn't nearly as great as it used to be. I spent over $3000 of MY OWN money to support this program this local season. So STFU with your insults. Learn to be a better person (NT) -- No name, 13:14:56 04/15/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) OP, you did nothing wrong! Don't let some mindless gutter trash trauma dumping on you get to you. This is a PAGEANT BOARD and during pageant season, we ask who won. If the poster is bothered by it, they shouldn't let the door hit them in the ass on the way out. Just wait til Super Saturday in June when we do our annual live chat (NT) -- No name, 17:33:01 04/15/24 Mon (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111) My word, have mercy! Sometimes I don't have the time to watch a pagent and maybe want to know who won and have asked as well. To the person calling everyone out for lack of financial support. I start to question "How Much Money are You Making From The Streaming Service?" Are you receiving financial kickbacks from the pagent Streaming services? Why, for what purpose is it necessary to call others derogatory names? (NT) -- No name, 15:51:30 04/22/24 Mon (ec2-3-98-143-140.ca-central-1.compute.amazonaws.com/3.98.143.140) Back in the day on this board, we would all know the results of each state pageant within minutes of the crowning, the names of the runners-up included. People wanted to be the first to share the news, so sometimes there were several posts about the announcement. This was a community that freely shared everything we knew. Pictures/videos of the crownings and the top five post-crowning were here a day later. I don't understand what people are thinking. We all share an interest in the MAO. I've been watching the pageant for 54 years. We valued each other, because no one else was as interested as we were. The whole notion of withholding information does not make sense. (NT) -- No name, 18:56:13 04/15/24 Mon (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) Nobody is �withholding information�, the competition was streamed and the results were posted all over social media. You�re just as capable of checking instagram as checking voy. You�re just lazy. (NT) -- No name, 19:01:40 04/15/24 Mon (90.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.90) And you're still being a cunt, lol. (NT) -- No name, 13:29:06 04/22/24 Mon (ns565314.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.107) Personally, I would rather be called a cunt than be too lazy to check social media (NT) -- No name, 14:30:51 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/107.123.1.129) YES, thank you!!! I remember those days well. This board was overflowing with posts about who won, who wore what, who should have scored higher, predictions, pictures, everything. It was lively. The arguments were around disagreeing with which girls placed or won, the topics of OSQ, who had a good talent and not. Now it's like if you ask anything at all, you're directed to FB or Instagram or some other place where all discussion is pretty much silo'd to that particular girl or restricted to butterflies and roses. I miss the good ole days of this board (NT) -- No name, 19:15:15 04/15/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Asking for information would not have been considered "lazy" back then. I called long distance to the newspaper of the location of our state pageant, to find out who won the preliminary awards each night. Then I reported that information to this board. Then we'd discuss it. This happened with every state pageant. The goal of the board was to share information, so we all knew what was happening in all of the states. If someone posted the top five of a state pageant, we would all expect we'd find out the final results soon. Sure enough, the information came to us. Why would someone post the top five and leave it at that? Why not post the results, too, just a few minutes later? I guess the old way of doing things has gone away with this generation. Then again, most contributors to this baord have left. I suspect because other people here treated them like crap. We can post here anonymously, but it doesn't give us the right to degrade someone else without consequence. (NT) -- No name, 00:28:56 04/16/24 Tue (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) Exactly!! Most participants on this board left because of the rudeness of this new generation of pageant fans who considers it rude to actually -- gasp! -- talk about results (NT) -- No name, 13:32:31 04/20/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82)

Subject: test
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:36:39 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/161.35.183.95) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Drag Race - can we learn something?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:59:53 04/21/24 Sun (h246.177.138.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/40.138.177.246) I wanted to share the dollar amounts of the contestants on RuPaul�s Drag Race from this weekend. I know this doesn�t seem appropriate for this board , BUT IT IS. How does this compare to Miss America? The dollars amounts are possible because they get sponsors and they get sponsors because the show is entertaining and because it is a perennial favorite at the Emmy Awards. Miss America is certainly on a better trajectory than Miss USA, but we are watching contestants we have no connection to (not the case on Drag Race) wearing boring fashion (not the case on Drag Race) performing boring talents (not the case on Drag Race) and answering questions based on what they think America�s best Christians want to hear rather than honest, gut-felt responses (not the case on Drag Race). Maybe the leadership can learn something by exploring other models? Plus, in addition to the dollar winnings, every one of these contestants will tour nationally and launch a career. Some have toured internationally; some have launched careers in entertainment. Here are the dollar amounts: Nymphia Wind $218,950 Sapphira Crist�l $62,400 Plane Jane $45,100 Q $12,700 Morphine Love Dion $52,700 Dawn $2,700 Mhi'ya Iman LePaige $4,050 Plasma $12,000 Xunami Muse $14,500 Megami $3,250 Geneva Karr $3,250 Amanda Tori Meating $2,000 Mirage $2,000 Hershii LiqCour-Jet� $2,000 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I love the names and the spellings! (NT) -- I dont watch the show but these amounts are incredible., 17:24:50 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/12.18.234.2) I am a former Miss State and I am in love with this show for the exact reasons above. It is a true demonstration of the hard work it takes to be a public figure and the craftsmanship that goes into the work behind the scenes. It�s honest, glamorous, tackles real issues in their communities, and is entertaining as hell. If someone asked me today if I would rather attend a Miss America final or a RPDR final it would be RPDR hands down. Miss America needs to understand that in order to build a following you need to have candidates that are the total package and have potential to have phenomenal careers and to attract those kinds of people, you have to have the money, sponsors, and experiences to make it worthwhile. Given the state of the program today, I certainly wouldn�t bother competing because it is expensive, full of incompetence, and the opportunities offered to vast majority of the girls are hardly worth calling home about compared to what they could be. It�s really sad. (NT) -- No name, 09:57:44 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/165.225.58.69)

Subject: Susan Akin
Author: LOVEY HOWELL III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:21:21 04/17/24 Wed (NoHost/68.181.60.0) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She mysteriously walked off stage after crowning Kellie Cash. Most stay and clap while the new Miss America takes her walk. Never understood why she dissappeared after her reign.. She magically appeared as a Judge at Miss Teen USA 1990 (NT) -- No name, 18:22:19 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/169.156.15.209) ...Speaking magic, Susan Akin was that one Miss America who not only enjoyed magic but also performed it (even to the media covering her as Miss America 1986)..and if you read this she did a trick during her pageant interview: http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/216810774/- -- She tells Mr. Letterman her life plans here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sh05kplpeY, 14:22:06 04/19/24 Fri (syn-071-013-125-008.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.125.8) She looks old here. Is this years after she won Miss A? (NT) -- No name, 19:56:31 04/18/24 Thu (104-11-197-119.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/104.11.197.119) She was beautiful when she won, when she came back her hair did not look good and you are right, not much has been noticed of her since. (NT) -- No name, 20:00:33 04/18/24 Thu (c-73-87-132-161.hsd1.md.comcast.net/73.87.132.161) I am not writing this to bash her, I am going to state what is verifiable. Susan had a tough time with life after Miss America. She married an older guy and the marriage failed, and she struggled with weight gain, depression and alcohol. She even attempted suicide at one point. She spent her whole life preparing to be Miss America and had competed in about 100 pageants prior to winning Miss America. Once she had one Miss America, she struggled with transitioning into life without pageants. She came back for the 70th reunion in 1990, but she hasn't been back to Miss America since. (NT) -- No name, 12:24:34 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/148.59.75.52) sorry....."once she had won Miss America....." (NT) -- No name, 12:25:40 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/148.59.75.52) I wish I could have seen her at the 70th reunion because she absolutely is a wonderful representative of everything that Miss America aspires to be. I love her. (NT) -- No name, 23:00:33 04/19/24 Fri (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) Is she the one who also witnessed a murder? (NT) -- No name, 13:27:18 04/20/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) No but supposedly her grandfather had been accused in a KKK-related murder back in the 1950's or 1960's. But I don't recall anything about Susan witnessing a murder. (NT) -- No name, 22:50:30 04/20/24 Sat (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) She was one of the most beautiful Miss Americas we've ever had. The epitome of what Miss America should look like back i the day! (NT) -- No name, 15:40:49 04/19/24 Fri (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) So sad the way her life developed. Addiction has no limits - you would think that a person achieved so much at a young age would continue on this path. I saw a video of Cullen Johnson a few months ago and she has also struggled with addiction for decades. How many others sit in silence and anonymity. (NT) -- sonia, 07:52:12 04/22/24 Mon (ool-182dea82.dyn.optonline.net/24.45.234.130)

Subject: This weekend's USA state pageants
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:29:47 04/22/24 Mon (NoHost/120.28.65.135) The two pageants have held over the weekend got concluded. Hawaii Miss - Breea Yamat Teen - Hokuaoka'ale Emma Gilman Michigan Miss - Alma Cooper Teen - Maddison Lynn Kott [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: between ad pages, opening number, rebel wear, Spotify, music fees, and now AHA, why don't they just have an entry fee and be done. say 1200. and then state can disperse it however they want. clearly the girls want the title not the scholarship
Author: getting crazy [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:53:21 03/16/24 Sat (047-032-045-183.res.spectrum.com/47.32.45.183) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Do states also get a cut of opening number dress fees? I am pretty sure mine does. (NT) -- No name, 08:11:22 03/17/24 Sun (75-98-182-189.dhcp.adams.net/75.98.182.189) $400 ad page; $350 entry fee; $125 required opening number outfit; $300 music = $1175 MAO in my state; USA is $495 entry and $800 for ad = $1295, so quite comparable. The hope is win the "big prize" of a $10,000+ scholarship and actually be able to use it. (NT) -- No name, 13:36:44 03/17/24 Sun (ip68-99-31-222.om.om.cox.net/68.99.31.222) Forgetting the rebel stheltics wear and AHA donation (at least in my state) (NT) -- No name, 15:42:54 03/17/24 Sun (NoHost/104.28.92.206) the girls must not mind. they keep coming back? (NT) -- tutu, 16:32:38 03/17/24 Sun (047-032-045-183.res.spectrum.com/47.32.45.183) Many state numbers are down, even with at large titles and the age increase. They�re not coming back as much as they used to. (NT) -- No name, 19:32:55 03/17/24 Sun (NoHost/108.147.94.40) Cost is more than you get out of it -- No name, 21:37:47 03/17/24 Sun (NoHost/75.35.245.247) especially if they are offering nothing at nationals. But you do get some pretty great interview skills and other things I dont think you can put an exact price tag on, until you get that great job you were not expecting because of skills you have obtained due to the program (NT) -- No name, 23:23:34 03/17/24 Sun (99-63-162-50.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/99.63.162.50) so using the OG posters number, four years of competing would come out to $4800. That's an expensive price to pay for an interview skill set. (NT) -- No name, 00:56:43 03/18/24 Mon (098-156-206-205.res.spectrum.com/98.156.206.205) That is just entry fees. There are so many other cost involved. -- No name, 06:25:15 03/18/24 Mon (NoHost/75.35.245.247) I tend to think it's more realistic if pageants are approached with a competition dance or traveling sports mindset. Most people there realize they are not going to make money or even break even from those activities. (NT) -- No name, 07:34:25 03/18/24 Mon (ip68-99-31-222.om.om.cox.net/68.99.31.222) and your job is? (NT) -- No name, 17:38:38 03/18/24 Mon (99-63-162-50.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/99.63.162.50) The participants do it for a variety of reasons. For many years, most girls spend more than they win. Not all. However, the experience is worth a ton or they would not continue to compete and spend more money. Why do we care what they spend if they choose to?. (NT) -- No name, 08:48:42 03/19/24 Tue (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) I just think it would be nice if it was a little more affordable. maybe more would compete then. and more contestants equal more ticket sales etc... (NT) -- IMO, 13:57:16 03/19/24 Tue (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) I agree with that. As a long time volunteer that makes sense. It is just hard to put on a quality state pageant or even local pageant with limited funds. And then award scholarships and prizes. (NT) -- No name, 14:24:35 03/19/24 Tue (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) Wait, what Spotify fees? (NT) -- No name, 22:40:36 03/19/24 Tue (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) I think the meant SpotFund (NT) -- No name, 23:50:50 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.116.84) Rebel Athletic is suppose to be sponsor, but a sponsor to me is when they donate a service or a product for cross promotion from the organization. I reality Rebel is making a significant direct income from MAO participants because everyone is require to PURCHASE Rebel Athletic Approved Outfit before competing at the State and also Local Levels of Competition. To me that is a Scam and not a Sponsorship. I am sure MAO is getting a cut of all Rebel Athletic Outfits Sold. (NT) -- No name, 13:43:54 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.222.102) YEEEPPPPP! And I predict in a year or two, the required Rebel color will change to blue or black and there will be another mass purchasing mess of girls scrambling to get the new color. Can't wait! (NT) -- No name, 14:28:03 03/25/24 Mon (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) The entry fee in CO is $800 (NT) -- No name, 13:10:26 04/20/24 Sat (c-76-154-237-175.hsd1.co.comcast.net/76.154.237.175) for state? (NT) -- No name, 17:19:03 04/21/24 Sun (24-230-100-124-static.midco.net/24.230.100.124) Yes, plus a required ad page, for only a weekend of competition. Doesn�t seem worth it. (NT) -- No name, 17:48:17 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/107.123.1.129) California entry fee is $1200 for at-large and $925 for local titleholders (NT) -- No name, 18:07:59 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/83.171.250.13) CA comp week is 2 weeks and contestants also have to pay for their own hotel for the entire 2 weeks (NT) -- No name, 18:12:07 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/185.197.192.182) Washington was also $1200 to win an open title and compete at state. No idea what they charged for the at large contestants this year or how many they allowed (NT) -- No name, 21:02:22 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/172.56.200.200)

Subject: Mississippi's Teen will be crowned today. Any word on preliminary awards, Teens in Action, Community Service, etc?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:41:15 04/21/24 Sun (d-74-81-218-42.oh.cpe.breezeline.net/74.81.218.42) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: MADISON
Author: Lovey Howell III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:52:39 04/18/24 Thu (syn-035-129-116-159.res.spectrum.com/35.129.116.159) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Tacky to wear such heavy-duty chains around her neck as some (apparent?) fashionable necklace? What Miss America 2024 has on, looks like chains for my dad's four-wheel truck -- or something they used on American slaves in the 1840s., 02:20:27 04/18/24 Thu (host-9-138.mdu.wimatos.madison.wi.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.9.138) She looks great! (NT) -- No name, 07:41:46 04/18/24 Thu (67-213-56-138.dsl.yadtel.net/67.213.56.138) Heavens above! She�s making a fashion statement - in the modern era! Gasp! At a state USA pageant! The horrors! Someone fetch my salts and a couch,, I bet she�s doesn�t even OWN pantyhose! (NT) -- No name, 11:16:58 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/185.153.179.85) Jovani has this same necklace on several of their models in a photoshoot https://www.missprisspromandpageant.com/p21377375/jovani-evenings-23240.html (NT) -- No name, 11:23:57 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.8.38) Perhaps she could borrow your pearls if you'd just stop clutching them. (NT) -- No name, 12:05:44 04/19/24 Fri (215.sub-174-193-70.myvzw.com/174.193.70.215) Hilarious, love that heavy-duty four-wheel truck comment. Surely in jest but that is a big chained necklace. Did Madison Marsh's name/title let alone her being at the recent Miss Arkansas-USA pageant might have influenced who won--regardless if she could have won otherwise? -- Is it her maternal or paternal cousin who is now Miss Arkansas-USA 2024?, 21:44:44 04/19/24 Fri (syn-071-013-125-008.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.125.8) Maternal cousin of hers had crowned Miss AR USA last weekend and her name is Madeline Bohlman. -- No name, 03:19:00 04/20/24 Sat (NoHost/120.28.65.135) She was in OKC for Miss Arkansas USA pageant this past weekend supported her cousin Madeline that led her to her eventual win as Miss Arkansas USA. (NT) -- No name, 04:17:17 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/120.28.65.135) Guess Robin doesnt have her booked much to be in Oklahoma for her Cousins, USA Pageant? (NT) -- No name, 23:24:31 04/20/24 Sat (136-34-158-168.googlefiber.net/136.34.158.168) She looks amazing!! (NT) -- No name, 08:20:55 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/128.163.8.38) Gorgeous!! (NT) -- No name, 19:18:10 04/18/24 Thu (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) The chains are part of the jumpsuit. Not a necklace. (NT) -- No name, 17:23:11 04/19/24 Fri (c-73-74-207-142.hsd1.il.comcast.net/73.74.207.142) Yep - Jovani 23240 (NT) -- No name, 23:00:32 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/146.75.136.0) Aren't they just made of some kind of lightweight plastic? I highly doubt those are metal chains. She would not be upright. (NT) -- No name, 10:33:43 04/20/24 Sat (syn-076-036-186-003.res.spectrum.com/76.36.186.3) Her eyes are gorgeous! (NT) -- No name, 22:38:59 04/19/24 Fri (pool-70-22-2-52.balt.east.verizon.net/70.22.2.52) Isn't there a rule about titleholders getting photographed with other system winners? (NT) -- No name, 10:59:26 04/20/24 Sat (mail.basketballcity.com/38.96.160.130) I believe the contract (did) says no photos whilst in your sash/crown. (NT) -- No name, 09:23:26 04/21/24 Sun (NoHost/104.28.116.95) I love that we have a hot Miss America. She's gorgeous. (NT) -- No name, 14:36:31 04/21/24 Sun (d-74-81-218-42.oh.cpe.breezeline.net/74.81.218.42)

Subject: Miss Vermont: Who won?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:27:46 04/14/24 Sun (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) I have googled "Miss Vermont 2024", checked all the Burlington TV stations and its major newspaper. Nothing. The last news here is the top five, no one has posted the final results. Could someone please share the final results? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Miss - Meara Seery and Teen Charlee Royer. Crowning videos are up on the Vermont org's instagram page. (NT) -- No name, 17:54:33 04/14/24 Sun (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Teens: 3rd RU Mina Smith, 2nd RU: Emma Danaher 1st RU: Aubrianna Mayette WINNER: Charlee Royer (NT) -- No name, 22:39:07 04/14/24 Sun (c-24-147-78-104.hsd1.vt.comcast.net/24.147.78.104) The placements of Mina and Emma are swapped here. Mina placed 2ru and Emma was 3ru. (NT) -- No name, 22:41:46 04/14/24 Sun (69-53-122-181.burlvt.fidium.ccidns.net/69.53.122.181) Thank You! (NT) -- No name, 22:45:14 04/14/24 Sun (c-24-147-78-104.hsd1.vt.comcast.net/24.147.78.104) MISS: 4th RU Abagail Hunter 3rd RU Emma Bryan 2nd RU Emily Benz 1st RU Sophia Parker WINNER: Meara Seery (NT) -- No name, 22:44:02 04/14/24 Sun (c-24-147-78-104.hsd1.vt.comcast.net/24.147.78.104) Thank you kindly! Any surprises? How was the fitness competition? (NT) -- No name, 08:45:17 04/15/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Emma Anderson or Hannah Roque should have been in the top 5. (NT) -- No name, 17:21:04 04/15/24 Mon (64-25-221-232.static.firstlight.net/64.25.221.232) What do you think held them back? I saw a lot of praise on this board for Emma A so I assumed she was a frontrunner (NT) -- No name, 19:16:10 04/15/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Fitness for both. It seems MAO is swinging back toward being fitnesses focused with it being 20% of your score. (NT) -- No name, 20:17:10 04/15/24 Mon (pool-71-178-47-59.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.47.59) Now they know what they have to do for the future. Did anyone age out? (NT) -- No name, 13:32:44 04/20/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I�ve noticed that all of the posts about Emma A are all coming from the same IP address which happens to link back to the college she attends. Coincidence? I don�t think so. (NT) -- No name, 20:20:20 04/15/24 Mon (NoHost/172.59.194.247) This a WILD take to have. She is very obviously a strong competitor and VT is a small state, she most likely has friends who also look at this board. Not to mention, the outgoing Miss goes to that school as does one of the other competitors. (NT) -- No name, 23:53:03 04/15/24 Mon (ehsclark404.e.subnet.rcn.com/207.237.144.35) I really wish the mod would turn off IPs. Just something else for nosy people to complain about. (NT) -- No name, 15:59:16 04/20/24 Sat (163-13-31-64.static.reverse.lstn.net/64.31.13.163)

Subject: 2024 MAO State Pageant Dates
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:41:10 04/05/24 Fri (097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Still looking for Idaho date. 4/14 � Vermont 4/27 - New Hampshire 5/12 � Rhode Island 6/1 � South Dakota 6/6 � Alaska 6/8 � Colorado, Kansas, Mississippi, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Wyoming 6/15 � Arkansas, California, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Utah 6/21 � Minnesota, Nevada 6/22 � Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, District Columbia, Maryland, Massachusetts, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wisconsin 6/23 - Hawaii 6/29 - Alabama, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia 6/30 � Maine 7/6 � New York, Washington 7/14 - Montana 721 � Puerto Rico AL � 6/29 AK - 6/6 AZ � 6/22 AR � 6/15 CA � 6/15 CO � 6/8 CT � 6/22 DE - 6/22 DC � 6/22 FL � 6/29 GA - 615 HI � 6/23 ID - IL � 6/15 IN � 6/29 IA � 6/15 KS � 6/8 KY � 6/15 LA � 6/15 ME � 6/30 MD � 6/22 MA � 6/22 MI � 6/15 MN � 6/21 MS � 6/8 MO � 6/15 MT � 7/14 NE � 6/8 NV � 6/21 NH � 4/27 NJ � 6/15 NM � 6/8 NY � 7/6 NC � 6/29 ND � 6/8 OH � 6/15 OK � 6/8 OR � 6/29 PA � 6/15 PR � 7/21 RI � 5/12 SC � 6/29 SD � 6/1 TN � 6/22 TX � 6/29 UT � 6/15 VT � 4/14 VA � 6/29 WA � 7/6 WV - 6/22 WI � 6/22 WY � 6/8 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Colorado has been moved to July 14 (NT) -- No name, 10:17:36 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/107.122.173.36) Any update for Idaho? (NT) -- No name, 17:14:59 04/15/24 Mon (ool-44c24203.dyn.optonline.net/68.194.66.3) 15 June (NT) -- No name, 13:35:00 04/18/24 Thu (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Thank you for compiling this for us! (NT) -- No name, 16:58:47 04/17/24 Wed (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Next up is Miss New Hampshire. They are offering a livestream for all 3 nights (2 prelim nights and the finals night). This is the link with the information: https://watchmissnh.vhx.tv/checkout/miss-new-hampshire-2024-competition-download/purchase (NT) -- No name, 17:04:52 04/17/24 Wed (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Any predictions in any state? (NT) -- No name, 23:23:56 04/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.68.248) Any time predictions get posted people don�t know how to act civilized so it gets taken down (NT) -- No name, 13:53:32 04/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.43) Which states will be livestreamed, at least the finals? (NT) -- No name, 08:23:29 04/20/24 Sat (174-20-149-12.mpls.qwest.net/174.20.149.12) New Jersey has been changed to June 8th please update (NT) -- Jersey volunteer, 11:12:11 04/20/24 Sat (c-73-178-96-201.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/73.178.96.201)

Subject: Best year for one piece swimsuits in top 10? 1989 maybe.
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:21:02 03/18/24 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Someone might think so. (NT) -- d..., 14:17:08 03/19/24 Tue (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) 1985 winner of Miss America 1986 (NT) -- No name, 19:25:41 03/19/24 Tue (c-75-65-220-33.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/75.65.220.33) Top 10 Best in Swimsuit - 1 - Carolyn Sapp, 2 - Kathy Manning, 3- Elizabeth Ward, 4- Heather French, 5- Jeri Zimmerman Ryan, 6- Tamara Hext, 7- Tiffany Stoker, 8- Yanci Yarbrough, 9- Susan Akin, 10- Katherine Hinson, Honorable Mention - Lisa Somodi (NT) -- No name, 21:22:14 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.87.246) While I liked Heather French as Miss America, her swimsuit award at Miss America was a carryover from Interview. I'd never have her as a top swimsuit at Miss America. I would add Kay Lani Rafko, Valerie Brossett, Nancy Humphries, Catherine Lemkau or Nancy Glisson on this list over French, Yarbrough or Somodi. (NT) -- No name, 12:55:45 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/148.59.75.52) My all-time favorite swimsuit at Miss America was Tawny Mullins from Kentucky. (NT) -- No name, 20:54:01 03/20/24 Wed (h250.246.140.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/67.140.246.250) Tawnya Mullins was all around such a great contestant. It was a shame she didn't place higher. (NT) -- No name, 21:18:23 03/21/24 Thu (c-75-65-220-33.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/75.65.220.33) Heather French was the right choice for Miss America, but I agree that she didn't deserve a swimsuit award. (NT) -- No name, 04:31:31 03/21/24 Thu (184-97-43-207.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.43.207) Even she said she was surprised that she won swimsuit. I assume that was never her strong category during her years of competing. (NT) -- No name, 11:12:16 03/23/24 Sat (248.sub-174-238-110.myvzw.com/174.238.110.248) I realize this is a ways back from the others listed here as looking the best in swimsuit, but IMO, a top 10 swimsuit list is not complete without mentioning Judy Heike, Miss Wisconsin 1973. She and Elizabeth Ward were both 10's in swimsuit. (NT) -- No name, 04:24:31 03/21/24 Thu (184-97-43-207.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.43.207) No Carla Haag????? (NT) -- No name, 02:14:32 03/24/24 Sun (NoHost/149.115.99.137) One of the best swimsuits every on the Miss A stage was Candace Pellitier - Miss NY and she did not even win the prelim. Her presentation was off the charts in my opinion. (NT) -- No name, 09:37:19 03/21/24 Thu (NoHost/69.214.90.25) Angela Tower is the best 1 piece swimsuit performance! (NT) -- No name, 11:10:30 03/21/24 Thu (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Totally agree on both Pelletier and Tower. They did not even look real. They looked like illustrations of what the "ideal" swimsuit body should be. Have always believed that Pelletier must have been red lined. There was no way that she didn't at least win swimsuit. I've forgotten who beat her in preliminaries. (NT) -- No name, 12:12:05 03/21/24 Thu (248.sub-174-238-110.myvzw.com/174.238.110.248) I am good friends with someone who judged Pelletier at Miss NY, and there wasn't much of an interview there. Knockout in swimsuit. Talent was good and entertaining, more than it was technical. But when it gets to Miss America, everyone knows it is won and lost in interview. (NT) -- No name, 12:34:48 03/21/24 Thu (NoHost/148.59.75.51) Kind of figured the interview must have been bad. Since she was a Rockette, I guess they favor flash over technique in their dancers. She was gorgeous in swimsuit, though. They should have invented a new award that year. Most Talented in Swimsuit Non Finalist, lol (NT) -- No name, 15:13:38 03/21/24 Thu (248.sub-174-238-110.myvzw.com/174.238.110.248) Jennifer Adcock, Mississippi, has to be in the Top 10 near the top, no question (NT) -- No name, 14:36:43 03/21/24 Thu (99-63-162-50.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/99.63.162.50) While she didn't crack the Top 10, Kristi Cooke, Miss Ohio, had a great swimsuit presentation. She won ss prelim both years at Miss Ohio. What a beauty. (NT) -- No name, 16:35:55 03/21/24 Thu (174-105-050-041.res.spectrum.com/174.105.50.41) From her appearance at Miss America, Kristi was hired by Mattel to portray Barbie at tradeshows in both New York and Japan. Sh really resembled Barbie (NT) -- No name, 13:06:41 04/03/24 Wed (NoHost/155.70.104.119) Pelletier got beat in SS Prelim by Miss DC - Shannon Schambeau - she too was outstanding in SS but different body type. Pelletier with legs day. Shannon had longer torso and less leg. But both were beautiful. (NT) -- No name, 14:45:34 03/22/24 Fri (NoHost/69.214.90.25) Shannon was gorgeous. (NT) -- No name, 18:55:09 04/01/24 Mon (67-213-56-138.dsl.yadtel.net/67.213.56.138) Tiffany Walker Miss New York 02 (NT) -- No name, 11:05:43 03/23/24 Sat (NoHost/169.156.15.214) Monica Louterend - Miss Mississippi 1995 (NT) -- sonia (sonia), 19:05:57 03/24/24 Sun (ool-182dea82.dyn.optonline.net/24.45.234.130) Monica Louwerens (NT) -- No name, 00:56:55 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.82.170) Monica was great that year. (NT) -- No name, 21:48:23 03/27/24 Wed (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) 2003 Miss NH Candace Glickman in a one piece. Preliminary Swimsuit Winner (NT) -- No name, 19:52:01 03/24/24 Sun (066-189-010-252.res.spectrum.com/66.189.10.252) Candace Glickman was stunning! I wish she had advanced past Top 10. (NT) -- No name, 09:49:04 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.82.170) Kylene Barker (NT) -- No name, 05:54:30 03/25/24 Mon (67-213-56-138.dsl.yadtel.net/67.213.56.138) Monica had they best evening gown. (NT) -- No name, 14:42:17 04/01/24 Mon (c-174-162-41-178.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/174.162.41.178) I remember hearing audible gasps when Shandi Finnessey walked out in SS Erika Harold's year. She didn't win SS - it was a shocker. She was just outstanding and her walk!!! I believe she did win gown, however. (NT) -- No name, 17:46:38 04/04/24 Thu (NoHost/192.193.216.212) Both Michelle Warren and Kelly Bradshaw were flawless in swimsuit. (NT) -- No name, 14:33:48 04/09/24 Tue (107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Since we were talking one piece swimsuits, Christi Page, Miss LA 1991, was pretty damn flawless. (NT) -- No name, 08:18:22 04/11/24 Thu (c-75-65-220-33.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/75.65.220.33) Both Michelle and Kellie ended up 1st runners up back to back for NC (NT) -- No name, 12:23:46 04/11/24 Thu (c-69-250-100-76.hsd1.md.comcast.net/69.250.100.76) It's kind of strange that in normal life, Kelly Bradshaw was very "Plain Jane" and really just a pretty farm girl. However, onstage, she became a Glamazon. She was a fierce competitor. I don't really think she wanted to be Miss America all that bad though once she got into it. I think she finished just where she wanted to be. (NT) -- No name, 10:28:36 04/20/24 Sat (syn-076-036-186-003.res.spectrum.com/76.36.186.3)

Subject: 2024 USA state pageant schedule
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:37:01 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/124.6.179.146) With the brand new month, only four delegates have been crowned. Louisiana: Sydney Taylor (previously Miss Louisiana Teen USA 2020, 4th runner-up at Miss Teen USA 2020) Maine: Anne Baldridge Massachusetts: Melissa Sapini Tennessee: Christell Foote Pageant dates 4/6: Mississippi 4/14: Arkansas, Connecticut, Oklahoma 4/19: Hawaii 4/21: Michigan 4/28: Delaware 5/4: Oregon 5/12: North Dakota, South Dakota 5/19: Kentucky 5/25: Ohio 5/26: Illinois, Rhode Island 5/27: Arizona 6/1: Alabama, Alaska, Maryland, West Virginia 6/8: District of Columbia, Indiana 6/9: New Hampshire, Vermont 6/15: Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Wisconsin 6/16: Kansas, Missouri 6/22: Texas 6/23: California, Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota, New Jersey, Virginia 6/27: Washington 6/29: Pennsylvania 6/30: Colorado, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, Wyoming 7/6: Utah 7/7: Florida Some states such as The Carolinas (both sides) will have altered venues to have a bi-state pageant for one-time event. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Interesting to see VA USA and VA MAO on consecutive weekends. Never seen them anywhere close to one another before. (NT) -- No name, 12:24:41 04/05/24 Fri (216-98-91-178.access.naxs.com/216.98.91.178) New VA USA directors who are based in GA so there is no relationship with VA MAO. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 10:00:16 04/12/24 Fri (ip98-169-228-239.dc.dc.cox.net/98.169.228.239) Of all the days for Ohio to pick, they chose the same day as the Miss Ohio Volunteer pageant. (NT) -- No name, 18:34:48 04/07/24 Sun (107-011-044-035.res.spectrum.com/107.11.44.35) I'm sure that's not a big deal considering volunteer usually has a whopping 3 girls in a state pageant (NT) -- No name, 10:20:49 04/08/24 Mon (mobile-166-199-149-020.mycingular.net/166.199.149.20) Ohio Vol had 7 at their 2nd state pageant, and some people would rather watch a show with Talent and multiple age divisions than watch 100 girls walk across a stage for 2 hours. Personally could not imagine trying to judge some of these enormous state pageants at USA/MAO. (NT) -- No name, 15:20:18 04/08/24 Mon (098-146-192-217.res.spectrum.com/98.146.192.217) Still bittEr you couldn't win a pageant coMpetIng against a whopping 8 girLs, Y. (NT) -- No name, 14:07:31 04/09/24 Tue (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111) Any available to watch online? (NT) -- Or via Pageantslive?, 01:20:52 04/15/24 Mon (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Pageant Vision holds Greenwood states (GA, MS, TN), Vanbros states (AR, IL, KS, MO, NE, OK), Proctor states (KY, MI, OH, PA), Empower States (IN, WV), Arizona, Delaware, and Texas. Pageants Live holds RPM states (AL, LA, NC, SC), Clemente states (ME, MA), Connecticut, DC, and Florida. (NT) -- No name, 05:54:48 04/15/24 Mon (NoHost/124.6.179.146) I hope CA MAO isn't in fresno (NT) -- LucidDreams, 13:26:25 04/15/24 Mon (NoHost/172.12.246.221) It's now in Visalia. (NT) -- No name, 15:26:14 04/15/24 Mon (syn-024-030-150-143.res.spectrum.com/24.30.150.143) It's in Visalia, which is 35 minutes south of Fresno. They had it there last year, not the most glamorous city. I heard of one contestant getting her car tags stolen while at the competition (NT) -- No name, 15:35:36 04/15/24 Mon (wsip-98-189-57-114.oc.oc.cox.net/98.189.57.114) Montana finals are 6-16. I just noticed their date and it wasn''t listed here before. (NT) -- PikachusWorld, 08:22:01 04/19/24 Fri (65-128-238-146.mpls.qwest.net/65.128.238.146) Sorry. I forgot to post that I was wasted. I will repost for a new update. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:06 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/120.28.65.135) DC has moved to 6/29 per official website. (NT) -- No name, 09:54:39 04/20/24 Sat (NoHost/120.28.65.135)

Subject: Miss Connecticut USA -has Miss Connecticut USA concluded does anyone have the results?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:28:10 04/14/24 Sun (c-73-243-218-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.243.218.118) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Shavana Clarke won Miss, Ava Celebtano won Teen (NT) -- No name, 19:41:22 04/14/24 Sun (NoHost/167.187.101.49) Thank you (NT) -- No name, 21:17:10 04/14/24 Sun (c-73-243-218-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.243.218.118) How did the reality Tv show gal do ? (NT) -- No name, 23:31:19 04/14/24 Sun (c-73-243-218-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.243.218.118) Top 11, out of 18 contestants. She was actually stunning� (NT) -- Surprised she didn�t place higher, 01:14:50 04/15/24 Mon (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) I've heard her interview isn't great. She didn't come.back onstage for the crowning. That shows Poor character (NT) -- No name, 20:45:29 04/15/24 Mon (c-75-68-201-140.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/75.68.201.140) She posted a new TikTok about the pageant. She is far too full of herself. (NT) -- No name, 18:56:09 04/16/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.116.50) The girl is not good in interview and if you saw her onstage question last year you would see why she wasn�t in top5 this year. She needs to get over herself. She was given a gift being in the top 5 previously. She is needs to go away! The winner was spot on. (NT) -- No name, 21:23:45 04/16/24 Tue (ip68-0-199-53.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.199.53) I keep hearing about her response to �right to bar arms� and other things, but don�t know the context� (NT) -- Or where to look for video, 20:22:14 04/17/24 Wed (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Which contestant is this? (NT) -- No name, 05:41:37 04/19/24 Fri (d-74-81-218-42.oh.cpe.breezeline.net/74.81.218.42) Gabby Vigorito from Smothered. She is starring the role alongside her mom who is a former beauty queen herself. (NT) -- No name, 11:30:06 04/19/24 Fri (NoHost/120.28.65.135) Shavana was my pick, she was truly wonderful. Surprised at the teen w/2nd RU placement, thought she'd take it, or at least 1RU. She was stunning and so well spoken. (NT) -- No name, 20:51:10 04/15/24 Mon (c-75-68-201-140.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/75.68.201.140) Winners were spot on. The 2nd runner up was a good speaker but clearly her answer was one she totally rehearsed before and her stage work in gown was not very good. Really couldn�t walk in gown. Pretty girl though. (NT) -- No name, 21:28:55 04/16/24 Tue (ip68-0-199-53.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.199.53) Shavana Clarke is the first person to win the state title after the age of 28 following Miss Universe Organization's decision to remove the age limit had previously implemented from 1952 to 2023. (NT) -- No name, 20:47:25 04/16/24 Tue (NoHost/124.6.179.146) The first runner up was also amazing! And she has three kids! (NT) -- No name, 23:08:10 04/16/24 Tue (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117)

Subject: Has Ohio let the cat out of the bag or am I late to the game?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:41:06 04/13/24 Sat (66.63.167.157.static.quadranet.com/66.63.167.157) Saw this on Ohio's website: And this is from the Miss A website: [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Just pick scoring, categories, and keep them for a while! Tired of trying to keep track of changes each year! (NT) -- No name, 09:49:50 04/14/24 Sun (NoHost/172.56.201.215) bump (NT) -- No name, 21:38:22 04/14/24 Sun (static-68-235-44-123.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.123) I went to the MAO website and the score sheets have 30 % interview? (NT) -- No name, 16:29:02 04/17/24 Wed (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124)

Subject: TAWNY LITTLE MISS AMERICA 1976
Author: LOVEY HOWELL III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:11:20 04/17/24 Wed (NoHost/68.181.60.0) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: THERE SHE IS .....VANESSA WILLIAMS
Author: LOVEY HOWELL III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:04:36 04/17/24 Wed (NoHost/68.181.60.0) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: If someone won National Sweetheart and was a runner-up at their state pageant could they compete at National Sweetheart again?
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:04:26 04/10/24 Wed (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Only Volunteer feeds Sweetheart. (NT) -- No name, 22:13:13 04/10/24 Wed (107-011-044-035.res.spectrum.com/107.11.44.35) Huge mistake. Hopefully Robin will get us back to sweetheart so they have a real competition (NT) -- No name, 10:56:53 04/11/24 Thu (NoHost/205.167.128.156) Didn't the MAO do it to themselves by not wanting their girls to compete there? -- >?, 10:59:22 04/11/24 Thu (NoHost/136.226.82.199) YES! Stupid Sam decided it was a good idea to cut off Sweetheart representation and said girls were not allowed to compete. Sweetheart was an amazing experience for the girls, both for competitive growth and for the sisterhood (NT) -- No name, 14:20:03 04/11/24 Thu (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Sammie was waaaay too insecure and narcissistic to abide Sweetheart being such a good thing for the girls. Only HE was allowed to be the Queen maker. (NT) -- No name, 09:02:27 04/12/24 Fri (static-68-235-44-59.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.59) Sweetheart to Miss America -- Tim, 17:54:32 04/16/24 Tue (103.sub-174-207-231.myvzw.com/174.207.231.103) Yes, there are a few women who competed at Sweetheart, went back to their state pageant and got 1st or 2nd runner-up again and went back to Sweetheart a second time. Sweetheart never put a one-time limit on competing there. (NT) -- No name, 10:28:49 04/11/24 Thu (NoHost/148.59.75.52) That was true up to about 10 or so years ago. Now girls only can compete once at Sweetheart (NT) -- No name, 13:54:20 04/11/24 Thu (065-188-218-047.res.spectrum.com/65.188.218.47) O.K. I did not realize that changed along the way. Thanks for the update. (NT) -- No name, 11:30:55 04/12/24 Fri (NoHost/148.59.75.52) Sweetheart has one time competition limit now! It Started 2022 I think (NT) -- No name, 15:41:52 04/11/24 Thu (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) ...and I believe they solely recruit from Miss Volunteer America now. (NT) -- No name, 12:10:30 04/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.59.73.250)

Subject: Delaware USA contestants released
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:25:00 04/13/24 Sat (NoHost/124.6.179.146) Both Miss and Teen have 12 each. https://sagemediagroup.com/peoples-choice-delaware/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Ooooh Alyssa Bainbridge is competing! She�s lovely. And thrilled former 1st runner up Rebecca Gasperetti is back. (NT) -- Ohdoyd, 07:20:39 04/14/24 Sun (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93) And last year's runner-up Kelly Smith and former Georgia USA runner-up EmmaKate Ledyard (nee Few) are on the list as well. (NT) -- No name, 16:59:37 04/14/24 Sun (NoHost/124.6.179.146) First runner-up as I am totally mistaken. Forgot to put from above. (NT) -- No name, 19:03:42 04/14/24 Sun* (NoHost/124.6.179.146) What is Christina Rich�s background? (NT) -- She seems familiar, 18:33:09 04/14/24 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) She's been successful in the Mrs. circuit, most recently as Mrs USA Earth 2022 (NT) -- No name, 22:17:31 04/14/24 Sun (unn-87-249-138-42.datapacket.com/87.249.138.42) Previously competed in DE USA/Teen USA & DE MAO as well (NT) -- No name, 10:52:11 04/15/24 Mon (syn-065-188-218-047.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.218.47) Isn't she in her mid 30s? Been competing for a long time. (NT) -- ?, 16:11:51 04/15/24 Mon (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93) USA does not have an age limit, and they now allow women who are married and have kids. (NT) -- No name, 19:04:07 04/16/24 Tue (156.sub-174-247-9.myvzw.com/174.247.9.156) Yes I'm aware....just asking her age. (NT) -- ., 08:34:53 04/17/24 Wed (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93)

Subject: Former Teens at Miss USA 2024
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:25:43 04/09/24 Tue (NoHost/124.6.179.146) Louisiana: Sydney Taylor (Miss Louisiana Teen USA 2020; 4th runner-up at Miss Teen USA 2020) Mississippi: Kaylee Brooke McCollum (Miss Mississippi Teen USA 2019; 3rd runner-up at Miss Teen USA 2019) Sydney became the first fourth runner-up to win the state title and the first in her state to both win Teen and Miss on her first attempt since 2014, and seventh overall, she is the second 2020 Teen after Annika Sharma from last year. Kaylee (or KB) is the third 2019 Teen to win the ticket to Miss after Caitlyn Vogel (Medalen) from 2021 and Jenna Howlett from last year. She is the fifth third runner-up to win the state title and is the second former runner-up in that year's Teen class after Vogel herself. Those two former Teens were previously runners-up in two separate years, respectively, the first to do so since 2021. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Sorry for miscalculation, Sydney is actually eighth not seventh. (NT) -- No name, 01:31:07 04/09/24 Tue (NoHost/124.6.179.146) Let us hope that there will be two former Teens competing in this weekend's USA state pageants: Danika Christopherson (OK TUSA 20, Top 16 at Miss Teen USA 2020) and Madeline Bohlman (AR TUSA 21, non-finalist at Miss Teen USA 2021). (NT) -- No name, 23:46:38 04/11/24 Thu (NoHost/124.6.179.146) My guess was right. Danika was the third 2020 Teen to win the Miss state title, while Madeline is the first 2021 Teen to win the ticket to Miss. Four former Teens competing this coming weekend. Oregon hasn't yet released its contestants list but one former Teen Shayla Montgomery (1RU to Ki'ilani Arruda in 2020) is competing in Oregon USA next month, and hoping she will be the first former Teen to win the tile in over 30 years. (NT) -- No name, 06:13:58 04/17/24 Wed (NoHost/124.6.179.146)

Subject: They seem to update the Miss America age requirements again. Here it is: � To become a local or state participant for the Competition Cycle 2026, (some states starting locals in March of 2024) competing as a State Titleholder at nationals in January 2026, you must meet the birth year criteria as shown below. For Miss America � birth years 2008- 1998�
Author: No Name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:01:01 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Let�s break this down so I understand. It Specifically says � �competing as a State Titleholder at nationals in January 2026, you must meet the birth year criteria as shown below. For Miss America � birth years 2008- 1998� 2026-1998 = 28. So 1997 participants still have one more year after Miss America 2025 is crowned. Correct? 2025-1997 =28. So they changed it back to make 1997 participates have until they are 28. That�s how I am understanding it. If I�m wrong, kindly correct me. Thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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this would be the last year for 1997, next cycle (after state this year) (NT) -- No name, 15:12:07 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) sorry meaning next cycle, they would be to old (NT) -- No name, 15:12:45 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) what cycle are we currently in if Madison Marsh is Miss America 2024? Isn't this the 25th cycle? (NT) -- No Name, 15:17:38 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Yes 25th (NT) -- No name, 15:28:17 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) So 1997 participants have one more year after Miss America 2025 is crowned. 2025-1997=28 (NT) -- No Name, 15:31:44 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Not according to the Cycle 26 Contract (NT) -- No name, 15:48:03 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) According to the website it is. I don�t understand why there is such lack of clarification about this matter (NT) -- No Name, 16:35:45 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Think about it� it makes no sense. Why would they tell 1998 participants (who would be 28) that they can compete but not 1997 participants. We need clarification about this matter. (NT) -- No Name, 16:37:38 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Do we know that�s Cycle 26 contract? I have a director saying that contract is applicable to cycle 25 (NT) -- No name, 20:19:06 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.76.230) The director is wrong. The cycle 26 contract. When the release said effective immediately it meant going forward for all titleholders competing in locals for Cycle 26 (i.e. state 2025 and Miss America 2026) (NT) -- No name, 16:09:06 03/21/24 Thu (NoHost/205.120.19.62) Bump. Pretty sure they allowed 1997 to compete until they are 28 now (NT) -- No name, 05:01:42 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Yes this state season and nationals in January and that is it. The reasoning is that if they are born in 1997 and compete at Miss America in January 2025, they would turn 28 sometime during their reign as Miss America. They cannot compete beyond Miss America 2025 because that would mean they would be turning 29 while still a titleholder. (NT) -- No name, 16:24:07 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/205.120.19.62) 1998 girls -- No name, 18:37:55 04/16/24 Tue (58.sub-174-196-204.myvzw.com/174.196.204.58) Anyone who was born before 1998 is not eligible to compete in the upcoming local season. The state competitions this spring and summer and Miss America in January 2025 are the last opportunities to compete for those born in 1997. (NT) -- No name, 10:51:12 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/205.120.19.62) Is there a world where this could mean those born in 1996 are unable to compete this year? (NT) -- No name, 13:32:55 03/21/24 Thu (43.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.43) Absolutely. Directors are telling woman the cycle 26 contract applies to this cycle (NT) -- No name, 14:35:18 03/21/24 Thu (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) If by this year, you mean those already crowned at a local and competing at Miss State this spring or summer than no. If you mean in an upcoming local to compete at state in 2025 than yes. (NT) -- No name, 15:28:17 03/21/24 Thu (NoHost/205.120.19.62) Directors are sending out the cycle 26 contract for at large titleholders for the stage pageant this year in 2024 (NT) -- No name, 15:39:45 03/21/24 Thu (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) I am referring to this local season. Until state pageants start, next year�s locals are next year. (NT) -- No name, 15:58:48 03/21/24 Thu (43.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.43) The old ages/birth years apply for this seasoning leading to state competitions 2024 and Miss America 2025. The new ages/birth years are for locals that lead to state competitions 2025 and Miss America 2026 (NT) -- No name, 16:01:03 03/21/24 Thu (NoHost/205.120.19.62) This was first implemented last year where those applications were born in 1995 or after were eligible to enter. (NT) -- No name, 22:03:33 03/21/24 Thu (NoHost/124.6.179.182)

Subject: Three states have just finished their pageants
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:55:15 04/14/24 Sun (NoHost/124.6.179.146) Connecticut Miss - Shavana Clarke Teen - Ava Celentano Arkansas Miss - Madeline Bohlman Teen - Siyona Karkera Oklahoma Miss - Danika Christopherson Teen - Megan Lanza [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Madeline is the first 2021 Teen to win the Miss state title and the first in Crystle Stewart era to do this, she is the cousin of reigning Miss America Madison Marsh. Danika is the 3rd 2020 Teen to win the Miss title and now joins Annika Sharma and Sydney Taylor in the list of Teen class of 2020 crossed over to Miss, hoping she will join Sydney in Nationals this August in Hollywood. (NT) -- No name, 05:49:33 04/15/24 Mon (NoHost/124.6.179.146) BTW, this is the USA pageant. The OK Teen's correct surname is Lamza as edited. (NT) -- No name, 11:00:12 04/15/24 Mon (NoHost/124.6.179.146)

Subject: Miss California 2024 on Reality Show: "Lovers and Liars aka F Girl Island"
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:59:51 04/12/24 Fri (076-081-208-042.biz.spectrum.com/76.81.208.42) It has come to my attention that Miss California 2024, Sabrina Lewis, has participated in a show called "Lovers and Liars" (also known as "F Girl Island"). Is this permissible according to the state contract? It seems highly inappropriate for a state titleholder to engage in such activities. Furthermore, reports indicate that she participated in the show without informing her state director, and the filming took place just one month into her reign as Miss California within the Miss America System. Thoughts? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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My thought is you need to take this somewhere that actually cares about what has been bought to your attention. (NT) -- No name, 23:07:01 04/12/24 Fri (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) She had an Only Fans account when she was crowned. What do you expect? (NT) -- No name, 01:58:50 04/13/24 Sat (172-089-071-243.res.spectrum.com/172.89.71.243) link? screen shots?? or that's a rumor (NT) -- No name, 12:58:07 04/13/24 Sat (bhs4.nux.net/167.114.175.21) I saw the main page before it was taken down. Profile pic was her butt in a string/thong. Everything else was behind a pay wall, so I'm not sure how nude she got for $$$. (NT) -- No name, 18:05:02 04/13/24 Sat (syn-172-089-071-243.res.spectrum.com/172.89.71.243) Oh my!!!! How nude she got for dollars!!!! Only Fans!!!! In the name of Rebecca Revels, why was she allowed to compete? (NT) -- Clutching my pearls so tightly, the clasp broke., 09:32:38 04/14/24 Sun (248.sub-174-238-110.myvzw.com/174.238.110.248) There's a girl in. Miss DE MAO this year who was on F Boy as well. Classy. (NT) -- ., 13:06:12 04/14/24 Sun (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93) btw... The premise of this reality show isn't F-Island, as in do everyone on the island; it's F-you-over Island. Half of the 24 men want love; half are in it to deceive. If the ladies pick a love guy, they get to share the $100k. If she picks a f-u-over guy, he gets the whole $100k. (NT) -- I'm sure there's plenty of sexy time going on. It's reality tv., 21:32:52 04/14/24 Sun (static-68-235-44-123.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.123) Sigh......I miss sexy time..... (NT) -- Elvira Gulch, Miss Lizard Lick 1952, 09:19:42 04/15/24 Mon (248.sub-174-238-110.myvzw.com/174.238.110.248)

Subject: Miss CA once again dragging the org down.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:36:08 04/12/24 Fri (a172-226-3-175.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com/172.226.3.175) Miss CA seems to have been on the gender swapped version of Fu*k Boy Island this last summer post winning the state pageant. She posted the promo on her personal page as if this is something an MAO titleholder should be participating in?? Even worse she introduces herself as Miss CA DURING the show! In what world is this acceptable? Girls have been decrowned for worse, if the CA board doesn�t fix this now they will have lost a long time supporter!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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WHAT YEAR (NT) -- No name, 01:06:54 04/13/24 Sat (syn-076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Miss CA is DEFINITELY on the new 2024 show that debuted last week on the CW. Instead of 3 ladies and 24 men; it's 3 men from the "Fboy-Island" franchise (rebranded for the ladies as "Lovers and Liars") trying to figure which of the 12 women are in it for love & which 12 for the money. When introducing herself to the men, she did a weird crown move and it was a bit cringe. (NT) -- did watch past her intro & can't screen shot the show to add a pic, 12:55:03 04/13/24 Sat (syn-107-011-044-035.res.spectrum.com/107.11.44.35) CA was one of Robin's titleholders when Robin ran CA USA. (NT) -- No name, 15:18:02 04/13/24 Sat (mail.basketballcity.com/38.96.160.130) Take her crown away (NT) -- No name, 12:27:00 04/14/24 Sun (21.sub-174-193-195.myvzw.com/174.193.195.21) That pageant was definitely fixed. How does a girl from Georgia living in CA end up with a judge from Georgia? (NT) -- No name, 16:58:06 04/14/24 Sun (99-152-119-100.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net/99.152.119.100) If she comes off well it will help the reputation of pageant girls being fake and prudish (when they aren�t). Who cares, this is what this generation is into and people can be good and still be normal adults. (NT) -- :), 17:58:35 04/14/24 Sun (pool-173-34-106-25.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/173.34.106.25)

Subject: Pageants Live
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:47:05 04/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Which state pageants are going on Pageants Live this year? I was hoping to find Miss VT there but it's not. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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livestream -- No name, 10:09:57 04/14/24 Sun (NoHost/38.242.7.249) I know, but I don't want to spend another $20 when I already have a subscription to Pageants Live. Honestly, I don't understand why all state pageants don't just stream on Pageants Live since so many of us have a subscription there (NT) -- No name, 12:46:19 04/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Connecticut USA is on Pageantslive today (NT) -- No name, 11:21:51 04/14/24 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117)

Subject: What makes me beyond upset about this organization
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:08:47 04/10/24 Wed (035-150-213-148.res.spectrum.com/35.150.213.148) This is what truly makes me so upset about this organization and why so many, now including myself have and will walk away. My family and I were longtime volunteers within a particular state organization from around 2008 to 2012. (who in recent months has seen a complete 180-degree turn in leadership, resignations, etc) We took a step back and moved onto other things, but I recently noticed that this particular state could probably use some help with marketing/website design (which is what my degree is in.) So, I sent a message to one of the three co-executive directors and was literally left on read. No response like, Thanks for your interest, we have that covered, etc. NOTHING. It's like if you're not part of the clique or they think they can use you and ring you out like a wet washcloth, they want nothing to do with your or no help. But yet, all you here is we're a family and volunteers make the program, etc. Well, then prove it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Did you offer any financial assistance? In my state, that's usually how it's done. (NT) -- No name, 19:40:29 04/10/24 Wed (NoHost/37.120.143.86) Why would they give money to an org that doesn't have the professionalism to even read their messages? (NT) -- No name, 22:19:46 04/10/24 Wed (107-011-044-035.res.spectrum.com/107.11.44.35) OP here: THANK YOU! I'm not giving a dime. That's absurd. (NT) -- No name, 22:29:30 04/10/24 Wed (035-150-213-148.res.spectrum.com/35.150.213.148) MAO for sure has created a culture of Elitism, where they are MAO and all other Pageant Systems are beneath them. All you need to know is MAO's new Social Media Policy, which forbids MAO Titleholders at all levels from participating with and acknowledging titleholders from other systems. They can't even take pictures with them if they are at an event or a parade. And God Forbid if you are involved in any way with Miss Volunteer America. I was giving a warning by someone on the State Board in my State to not work with Volunteer and as soon as I did, I got weeded out of the MAO Local and State System in my State. (NT) -- No name, 18:36:58 04/11/24 Thu (c-50-173-90-238.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.173.90.238) That is disrespectful and rude Awful that they promote this (NT) -- No name, 02:16:27 04/12/24 Fri (57.sub-174-193-129.myvzw.com/174.193.129.57) So local titleholder shouldn�t be emceeing other pageants systems? (NT) -- No name, 13:23:12 04/12/24 Fri (NoHost/184.19.99.245) I am sure they could do that, but from what I understand about the new rules. They would not be allowed to wear their MAO Crown and/or Sash while emceeing doing it. (NT) -- No name, 21:03:13 04/12/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.216.136) I feel like I'm 99% sure which state you are referring to, and if I'm right, you know why we all left. Multiple attempts at resurrecting the website were offered, and as late as January, "MAO was making a new one." As of tonight, they still haven't released it. The website could have been redone for less than $3000 and it was turned down. Decades of experience walked away in one 24 hour period, and no one has bothered to ask why. It's burying heads in the sand, refusing to accept help when needed, and not being open to change that will take not only this state down, but Miss America as we know it. (NT) -- No name, 19:50:25 04/11/24 Thu (108-94-108-63.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net/108.94.108.63) We've got to disabuse ourselves of the notion that Robin has any interest in fairness, rules, local orgs, the girls, or the fans. They can all go to hell if it gets in the way of her making a buck. Remember when she tried to squeeze the Teens out of seeing their sister queens compete at Miss America so she could sell their seats? She's shown us who she is. It's highly disappointing, but Robin's greed over ethics isn't abating, ever. (NT) -- No name, 08:55:49 04/12/24 Fri (static-68-235-44-59.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.59)

Subject: OFFICIALLY HER DIGITAL MAGAZINE LINK
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:37:55 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.56.42) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thank you (NT) -- No name, 14:23:51 03/21/24 Thu (68.sub-174-193-138.myvzw.com/174.193.138.68) Nice, but for the inaugural issue, this was super light on actual content. There were only two one-page articles in here. Really hoping they add more so that there�s more benefit from actually reading it. Otherwise, it just looks like a program book. (NT) -- No name, 14:48:59 04/12/24 Fri (164.sub-174-242-130.myvzw.com/174.242.130.164) It has tons of pics from Miss America week! That is awesome!! (NT) -- No name, 16:04:48 04/12/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.8.38)

Subject: Question about Madison. Is she staying in the apartment in FL like Grace did? I haven�t seen any photo shoots done with her. Besides the ceremony in Arlington, anyone know what else she�s been up to? Also, sad that the Miss America website is horribly out of date
Author: Anyone know? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:39:26 04/09/24 Tue (c-73-139-133-136.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.139.133.136) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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No info abt residency, however, the MA TikTok account is more current (NT) -- No name, 09:23:16 04/09/24 Tue (NoHost/140.248.20.1) You must not follow the MA Instagram...Madison has been everywhere. I believe she's spending time between Boston (Harvard) and Colorado. (NT) -- No name, 23:22:28 04/10/24 Wed (NoHost/74.122.140.14) Yeah, lots of activity on Instagram. There is no longer a condo in Florida. Robin asked Grace if it was something she thought was beneficial and she said no, so she did not add it this year. (NT) -- No name, 08:17:12 04/11/24 Thu (NoHost/128.163.8.38) there is a story behind this (NT) -- No name, 22:45:46 04/11/24 Thu (99-63-162-50.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/99.63.162.50) ffs, tell us the story instead of baiting us and leaving us hanging. (NT) -- No name, 08:58:35 04/12/24 Fri (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111)

Subject: has anyone looked at the merchandise for sale on the MAO website? weird stuff. guns and roses knock off shirts? hardly anything with crown logo. no tshirts or scarfs or anything really. They are missing an opportunity there
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:26:01 04/05/24 Fri (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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not sure how you can say that. There is more stuff for sale than in YEARS, some pretty cool stuff in my opinion (NT) -- No name, 15:59:58 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.8.38) I would like to see more logo clothing and not mugs with old queens on them (NT) -- IMO. and the guns and roses thing is weird to me, 17:43:23 04/09/24 Tue (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) Miss NC is listed as top five. Does anyone proofread anymore? (NT) -- No name, 07:31:56 04/10/24 Wed (c-75-65-220-33.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/75.65.220.33) What are you talking about? (NT) -- No name, 10:07:23 04/10/24 Wed (NoHost/128.163.8.38) Sorry. If you look under the tab Miss America, the 2024 Miss America delegates, under Miss North Carolina it says top five. I was just looking around after I looked at the merch. (NT) -- No name, 08:13:47 04/11/24 Thu (c-75-65-220-33.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/75.65.220.33)

Subject: Louisiana USA 2024 results
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:11:37 03/31/24 Sun (NoHost/180.190.30.60) From Pageant Central/Instagram: Miss Results W: Sydney Taylor (Lafayette) 1RU: Hannah Fontenot (Magnolia) 2RU: Emily Randon (Pelican State) 3RU: Trinitee Johnson (Capital City) 4RU: Anna Katherine Steckler (Acadiana) Top 10: Ella Clark (Bayou State), Ivy Robichaux (LSU), Jourdan Waddell (Sportsman's Paradise), Taylor Witmeyer (NOLA), Catherine Wooton (Plaquemines Parish) Top 16: Halle Bourdonnay (Baton Rouge), Diamond Jonise (Red Stick), Jaide Navarre (Calcasieu), Caylyn Peddy (Natchitoches), Darby Smith (East Baton Rouge), Annaclaire Zerange (UL Lafayette) Sydney became the first former Teen to win the state title since Brittany Guidry (Benton) in 2014. Teen results W: Ava Watson (New Orleans) 1RU: Allison Levesque (Bossier Parish) 2RU: Julia Badinger (Sportsman's Paradise) 3RU: Arica Haywood (Uptown) 4RU: Mackenzie Bergeron (Baton Rouge) Top 10: Heaven Riley Breaux (Opelousas), Sarah Freeman (Vidalia), Isabella Jones (Franklin Parish), Elise Parrish (Red Stick), Addison Petry (Lafayette) Top 16: Averie Harris (Crescent City), Caroline Hultberg (Capital City), Avery Jeansonne (Mandeville), Jaynee Kitchen (St. Bernard Parish), Abry Layrisson (Pelican State), Sadie Petry (Fleur de Lis) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Based on the headshots, the girl who won was the most beautiful by a mile. Bonus points for not looking overprocessed and and broody. (NT) -- No name, 21:09:35 04/04/24 Thu (068-117-155-207.res.spectrum.com/68.117.155.207) She is gorgeous. Reminds me of Ali Landry. (NT) -- No name, 22:48:52 04/08/24 Mon (67-213-56-138.dsl.yadtel.net/67.213.56.138)

Subject: Regarding the thread about cost to compete. What are some ideas that locals can do to save money?
Author: Let�s try to brainstorm some ideas [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:25:04 03/19/24 Tue (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Besides what they, no doubt, are already doing? (NT) -- No name, 18:11:57 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.116.106) Not be part of it. What does MAO really do for you? It doesn't help with gaining sponsorships. There are so many pageant systems it's now a dime a dozen. It's no longer nonprofit. Scholarships are barely existent and the restrictions placed on them have rendered them useless for college grads with student loan debt. MAO is no longer relevant. -- No name, 18:14:21 03/19/24 Tue (vmi1493215.contaboserver.net/31.220.101.228) Well first of all, don't do any side fund raising because MAO will find out about it and want a piece of the pie. We used to do a "Little Miss Pageant" during our pageant as fill (all for fun) and we made BANK on it (because let's be honest, 99% of the audience was there for the Little Miss) and not too long after, Little Miss Pageants were banned because MAO wasn't getting a piece of the pie. (NT) -- No name, 16:39:23 03/22/24 Fri (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Losing the ability to have a Little Miss pageant nearly killed our local. It brought in so much money! We�re going in the hole with little sisters. (NT) -- No name, 17:18:26 03/23/24 Sat (mobile-166-205-124-032.mycingular.net/166.205.124.32) How do you afford the Little Sisters? Between the sash and crown we are required to give, that is over $70.00 (NT) -- No name, 12:16:39 03/24/24 Sun (117.indianapolis-10rh16rt-11rh15rt.in.dial-access.att.net/12.74.54.117) I think the idea is that you have parents pay that, and the more you have the more tickets you sell? (NT) -- No name, 15:20:35 03/24/24 Sun (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) How do you charge parents for tickets after you already charge them an entry fee? (NT) -- No name, 07:51:24 03/29/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.8.38) Maybe give 1-2 with entry fee and then Hope aunts uncles and siblings come. I paid dance comp entry and also tiickets for competition. Hockey tournament fees and entry tickets (NT) -- It�s really no different, 08:58:15 03/29/24 Fri (eu107.ips.PaulBunyan.net/209.191.211.107) We do give 2 tickets for Little Sisters, but you are right maybe some extended family would come (NT) -- No name, 09:23:12 03/29/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.8.38) Easy, just like every sport does, every dance competition, basically any kind of activity/competition does this. My child's entry fee has to participate or compete in anything has ever included my ticket into the event to watch. (NT) -- No name, 18:41:53 04/08/24 Mon (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Have a local group hold a little pageant, not affiliated with MAO and they can be a sponsor. (NT) -- No name, 15:21:41 03/24/24 Sun (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) Get a cheap venue. I found a free one. I had to rent sound equipment and chairs, but that was it. My pageant made enough in tickets to pay for all the other expenses and scholarships, and put a nice chunk in the bank for next year. (NT) -- No name, 02:16:12 03/28/24 Thu (NoHost/32.219.202.93) Our local pageant key to success is sponsorships. Local businesses support us and have for years. They invite our winners to events throughout the year. Make a list of all expenses and start getting sponsors for each. We have the following: Emcee Sponsor; Judges Sponsors: Hotel, Meals, GIfts; Opening Number Sponsor; Fitness Sponsor; Crown and Banner Sponsor; Florist Sponsor; Scholarship Sponsors - Winner, Runners-Up, Talent; Reception Sponsor. Take photos with your winner and each sponsor that night and then throughout the year. Post the photos, Write thank you notes. Businesses like to be seen doing good in the community. Our committee recruits the sponors from places we do business with. No one is writing really big checks. Break it down/ It will take a few eyas to build it up but then it is clockwork. When we lose a spnosor now we can usually replace it pretty easily. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:54 03/28/24 Thu (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) I can see how that would work in a closed local in a small community, but my state has huge open "locals" crowning a dozen contestants who could live hours away from the big city where the pageant is held. (NT) -- No name, 01:37:25 03/30/24 Sat (c-73-24-225-123.hsd1.az.comcast.net/73.24.225.123) Agree it is easier in a closed locoal or a regional local. But it does not have to be small communities. Those businesses have limited funds. It takes a few years to build up but you have to have winners that will make some appearances, post photos, be appreciative and write thank you notes. (NT) -- No name, 15:30:19 04/01/24 Mon (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) Yeah small community local here - much harder to get sponsorships because so many businesses are asked to sponsor EVERYTHING. (NT) -- No name, 18:15:45 04/08/24 Mon (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195)

Subject: Connecticut USA contestants revealed
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:41:42 04/01/24 Mon (NoHost/180.190.30.60) Miss (19): https://www.instagram.com/p/C5L6LPCLh_T/ Teen (14): https://www.instagram.com/p/C5L53HJLY_B/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Some look mean (NT) -- No name, 03:17:35 04/02/24 Tue (24.sub-174-193-194.myvzw.com/174.193.194.24) Based on photos only, Ivy and Katie. (NT) -- sonia, 14:25:47 04/05/24 Fri (ool-182dea82.dyn.optonline.net/24.45.234.130) Shavana and Peyton are stunning (NT) -- No name, 23:48:42 04/05/24 Fri (c-75-68-201-140.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/75.68.201.140) Gabby is back (from Smothered). She is a pretty girl but IMO needs to cut several inches of hair. It overpowers her small body. Need a coach other then her mom. (NT) -- Lee, 10:47:23 04/07/24 Sun (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93) Her mom was a pageant queen herself, who was Miss Connecticut USA 1988. (NT) -- No name, 23:16:16 04/07/24 Sun (NoHost/124.6.179.146) What is Gabbys pageant history? (NT) -- What does �Smothered� mean in regards to her?, 00:15:43 04/08/24 Mon (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Smothered is a reality TV show about moms who can't cut the umbillical cord. It's on TLC. Gabby's and mom dress alike and do everything together, and the mom is living out her dream of being USA through Gabby. (NT) -- Lee, 06:23:01 04/08/24 Mon (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93)

Subject: Mississippi USA 2024 results
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:18:45 04/07/24 Sun (NoHost/124.6.179.146) From Pageant Central/Instagram: Miss Results W: Kaylee Brooke McCollum (Monroe County) 1RU: Maddi Lambert (Northwest MS) 2RU: Krystle Hughes (Capital City) 3RU: Zoe Bigham (College Hill) 4RU: Jada Kelly (Biloxi) Top 12: Mia Farris (Brandon), Malory Williams (DeSoto County), Allie Williamson (Grenada County), Olivia Burchfield (Jones County), Isabella Nolen (Madison), Alexis Carter (Oak Grove), Connor Dowdell (Oxford) Kaylee became the first former Teen to win the state title since Haley Sowers (Owen) in 2016. Teen results W: Addie Carver (Spirit of Volunteer) 1RU: Izzy Karns (Oak Grove) 2RU: Lauryl Jorner (Lauderdale County) 3RU: Larissa Gaines (DeSoto County) 4RU: Braley Dickerson (Winston County) Top 10: Elaina Uzzle (Central MS), Kiley Musgrove (Lamar County), Kynlee Smith (Laurel), Caroline Ulmer (Mize), Madalyn Oliphant (Newton County), Barrett Grace McDonald (Pinebelt), Makaria Hedge (Rankin County) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Congratulations (NT) -- No name, 00:20:08 04/08/24 Mon (67-213-56-138.dsl.yadtel.net/67.213.56.138)

Subject: Check the Miss America website eligibility. They changed the wording for the age requirement. 1997 women can compete if they are 28 during their reign and won�t turn 29. Ex: a June or July 1997 candidate can compete
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:54:07 03/30/24 Sat (NoHost/91.184.120.92) Before you argue or correct me- please go see the updated age requirements online for yourself. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes, the website was updated again. The updated rule is a contestant cannot turn 28 prior to her state pageant - she must be 27 at her state pageant. If she wins her state pageant, she can turn 28 prior to Miss America but she must have been 27 at the state pageant where she was crowned. (NT) -- No name, 23:19:27 03/30/24 Sat (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) Exactly. So technically, as an example, June and July 1997 candidates can compete. They have one more year after this season (NT) -- No name, 08:42:36 03/31/24 Sun (NoHost/31.192.1.31) It will be different by state (dependent on the dates of the state pageant (not the month the dates), but yes if they turn 28 AFTER their state pageant they will have one more year of eligibility. The national office is listening to the state ED's and giving them a voice. (NT) -- No name, 14:04:32 03/31/24 Sun (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Depends on the date of the state pageant and the contestant�s birthday. If she has a June 10 birthday and the state pageant is June 11, then she can�t compete. (NT) -- No name, 14:32:21 03/31/24 Sun (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) Right, which is ridiculous. So two girls who were born on the exact same day may have a difference in their eligbility. And the kicker is they won't even know until the state pageant decides on their date. My word, Robin is going from bad to worse (NT) -- No name, 01:37:46 04/01/24 Mon (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) This is even stupider than stripping a year of the eligibility age. So going by this year's state pageants, if a girl has a birthday that falls on June 1st, she can compete in the states of VT and NH, but she can't compete in FL? That's just moronic. If they want to make it a thing, then just say the girls can't turn 28 before April 1st or before June 15th or some objective date (NT) -- No name, 01:35:44 04/01/24 Mon (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) As someone with a spring birthday and state pageant in June, I am disappointed that I won�t get my last year of eligibility now� (NT) -- No name, 20:39:51 04/02/24 Tue (035-149-144-070.res.spectrum.com/35.149.144.70) I think it's fine. It's similar to birthday cutoffs for school. Your birth month also determines when you start school not just your birth year (NT) -- No name, 11:48:41 04/03/24 Wed (wsip-98-189-57-114.oc.oc.cox.net/98.189.57.114) But the difference is that every state pageant is held on a different date (NT) -- No name, 13:00:40 04/03/24 Wed (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) If your birthday is before state, that would make you eligible. (NT) -- No name, 12:20:40 04/03/24 Wed (NoHost/65.49.97.151) No, exactly the opposite is true (NT) -- No name, 13:12:17 04/03/24 Wed (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) It would prevent anyone from holding a state title as a 29 year old. (NT) -- No name, 13:02:52 04/03/24 Wed (wsip-98-189-57-114.oc.oc.cox.net/98.189.57.114) No, it wouldn't. It would only prevent a 29 year old from WINNING a state title. A girl could turn 29 the day after crowning and be totally fine. It's a stupid rule (NT) -- No name, 13:13:28 04/03/24 Wed (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) No the new age requirements clearly state that you must be no older than 27 at your state competition for Miss and no older than 17 for your state competition for teen. (NT) -- No name, 13:52:14 04/03/24 Wed (NoHost/65.49.97.151) And that's assuming state pageants hold their pageant on the same date every year, which we know they don't (NT) -- No name, 15:24:19 04/03/24 Wed (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) It doesn't matter if they change their date, the rule still applies. You CANNOT be 28 before your state competition, no matter what the date is. (NT) -- No name, 16:10:08 04/03/24 Wed (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Ummm, we know. I'm highlighting the absurdity of it, not the facts of it (NT) -- No name, 12:01:32 04/05/24 Fri (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) It prevents a 28 year old from winning a state title period. You must be 27 or younger to win a state title. If you win your state title at 27, then you can turn 28 before Miss America so long as you were 27 when you won your state. The rule is very straight forward. (NT) -- No name, 16:03:58 04/03/24 Wed (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) Straight forward can still be stupid (NT) -- No name, 17:36:24 04/03/24 Wed (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) My comment wasn�t a comment on the �stupidity� or non stupidity of the rule, it was a commentary on how you were interpreting / explaining it. Another way to look at this is some to be 28 year olds are now given the opportunity to compete next year provided they are 27 at their state pageant; under the previously changed rule, none of them would be allowed to compete. There are several institutions that use birthdates as a cutoff, schools (every district with different cut off date), dance comps, sports teams (vary based on what league). I�m not for or against as it�s a rule specified by the organization and completely up to them to determine, I simply wanted to clarify what the rule actually is. (NT) -- No name, 19:41:14 04/03/24 Wed (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) No one is saying they shouldnt' use birthdates as a cutoff. We're saying they shouldn't use state pageant dates as a cutoff (NT) -- No name, 13:00:49 04/04/24 Thu (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) If you are x age by the dance competition date, you are in y category; if you are x age by the start of school, you are in y grade; if you are 18-27 by the time your state pageant occurs, you compete. It's the same thing. (NT) -- No name, 16:32:38 04/04/24 Thu (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) Oh good lord, I GET IT! I KNOW!!! I'm saying it's STUPID to do it according to state pageant dates rather than the NATIONAL PAGEANT date! (NT) -- No name, 12:03:36 04/05/24 Fri (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) By using the state cut off date, more women get to compete as the first changed rule would have been no 28 year olds; so, it appears that it's a transition to get from 28 to 27. BTW, it is difficult to understand what you know because you first said 28 year olds could compete if they weren't turning 29. (NT) -- No name, 16:50:05 04/05/24 Fri (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) Honey, I say this with love but if you're 27 turning 28, it's probably time to move on from pageants and pursue some of your other wonderful and valuable hobbies and interests. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:59 04/04/24 Thu (c-66-31-94-95.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/66.31.94.95) A breath of sanity on the Voy board. Thank you. (NT) -- No name, 21:09:55 04/05/24 Fri (107-011-044-035.res.spectrum.com/107.11.44.35) But men are allowed to pursue their hobbies for their whole life. Leave your negativity at the door. (NT) -- No name, 23:00:24 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/107.123.1.24) I assume this goes into affect for the class of 2025? Because some local title holders are already 28 and have not been to state yet. (NT) -- No name, 17:28:14 04/03/24 Wed (99-69-18-132.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net/99.69.18.132) Correct (NT) -- No name, 21:33:35 04/03/24 Wed (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) What is the logic to support cutting off mao teen eligibility at 17? Teen USA, Vokunteer, etc accept up to 19 years old and will benefit from Mao kicking teens out at 17. (NT) -- No name, 13:41:21 04/04/24 Thu (Paomaha.com/64.253.163.210) and now they have changed the starting age to 14 so girls can't even compete now till they are 14 so that basically cuts off 2 years of eligibility for teens (NT) -- No name, 14:17:50 04/04/24 Thu (NoHost/128.163.8.38) the 14 is bad. We need the ones that turn 13 by state (NT) -- No name, 14:30:40 04/05/24 Fri (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) YES! (NT) -- No name, 21:55:43 04/05/24 Fri (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) Why do you feel so strongly about 13 year olds? I�m not a fan. (NT) -- No name, 14:26:44 04/06/24 Sat (NoHost/107.77.85.49) 13 is too young IMO to be competing with 17-18 yo in teen. Huge maturity gap esp in interview. (NT) -- Lee, 14:28:56 04/07/24 Sun (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93) So they don't deserve to have the experience?1 (NT) -- No name, 15:22:31 04/07/24 Sun (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) they learn from the experience and we need the numbers too. (NT) -- No name, 17:03:24 04/07/24 Sun (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124)

Subject: Arkansas USA and Oklahoma USA contestants revealed
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:18:29 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/124.6.179.146) Arkansas Miss (13): http://missarkansasusa.com/arusa2024/ Teen (11): http://missarkansasusa.com/arteen2024/ Oklahoma Miss (21): http://missoklahomausa.com/okusa2024/ Teen (15): http://missoklahomausa.com/okteen2024/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wow Arkansas only has 13 Miss Contestants (NT) -- No name, 12:04:53 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.8.38) You can tell there is no age limit anymore (NT) -- No name, 12:20:43 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.238.142) Yes and its for Miss only, that has been implemented since this year. (NT) -- No name, 20:25:51 04/05/24 Fri (NoHost/124.6.179.146)

Subject: Former Miss Virginia USA, Pat Smith (nee Southall] 1st runner-up to Miss USA 1994
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:36:14 03/17/24 Sun (cpe589630df4201-cm589630df41ff.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.240.24.5) https://youtu.be/zxSOrxqZBUM?feature=shared [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Also a two-time Miss Virginia MAO contestant with a dance talent----prior to winning Miss Virginia-USA 1994. This posting about her came out of the blue---why today? -- At least you could have selected a gal with an Irish name for St. Patricks' Day today., 20:46:19 03/17/24 Sun (047-044-091-146.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.91.146) At her Miss USA appearance, the commentators picked her to win from the beginning and seemed genuinely surprised when South Carolina beat her. (NT) -- No name, 23:45:54 03/17/24 Sun (216-98-91-178.access.naxs.com/216.98.91.178) You actually believe all of that hogwash on "favorite" contestants they say on the telecast as if those contestants were really their favorites? It was the producers who feed them the info to help establish credibility on some (maybe not all, but some who do end up faring well or winning the pageant---just like in 1991 when the color commentators, actress Barbara Eden and former Miss USA 1970, Deborah Shelton, kept saying "Oh wow, look at Kansas"...."Kansas is really a favorite here"...on and on....and it was not just because then-Miss Kansas-USA 1991, Kelli McCarty was competing in her home state when the Miss USA pageant was held in Wichita, but the pageant wanted Kelli to win....and put that in the scripts for the commentators. Sure, maybe Patricia Southall (VA-USA 1994) would've done -- well anyway, but it didn't hurt having co-hosts advocate for her and Lu Parker (SC-USA)., 15:15:33 03/18/24 Mon (047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) Totally agree with your comments on pageant telecast commentators and your example of Kelli from Kansas (1991) was spot-on. The producers work with those women who sit and provide their selections and re-enforce how well "their" favorites are doing in the pageant. If the tv color commentator predictions/personal favorites were not preplanned -- and approved by tv show directors it wouldn't be so bad to hear them speak., 18:33:00 03/20/24 Wed (097-088-255-094.biz.spectrum.com/97.88.255.94) Would Miss Kansas-USA 1991 (Kelli) would have won Miss USA 1991 at any other host city location for Miss USA?And did Kelli from Liberal, Kansas win to help keep -- Wichita as a host city? The media loved the headline "Liberal woman wins Miss USA"., 05:28:11 03/25/24 Mon (host-9-138.mdu.wimatos.madison.wi.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.9.138) I don�t think so , I am pretty sure that they had a contract I do not think that Kelli would win if the pageant was in another state I was shocked that she won (NT) -- No name, 03:28:51 04/02/24 Tue (24.sub-174-193-194.myvzw.com/174.193.194.24) a good mesage (NT) -- No name, 00:07:17 03/18/24 Mon (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Pat should have won Miss USA . She was miles away from Lu in all categories. (NT) -- No name, 12:33:58 03/19/24 Tue (c-69-250-100-76.hsd1.md.comcast.net/69.250.100.76) I suspect part of why she didn�t win was it was right after Kenya Moore and although there was a big height difference, the did look similar. It�s really hard to win if you look like the outgoing queen. (NT) -- No name, 12:47:56 03/19/24 Tue (Paomaha.com/64.253.163.210) I'm confused 🤔 Pat looks like Kenya? Maybe I am misunderstanding you. In no way do they look similar. The only common denominator is that they are both black. That is like saying Kate Shindle looked like Tara Dawn Holland, there is zero connection except they both are white. (NT) -- No name, 13:52:35 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/38.135.111.69) Lu Parker was so much p[rettier and smarter on stage. Virginia wasn't even my 2nd choice. (NT) -- No name, 01:16:19 03/20/24 Wed (c-98-36-142-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/98.36.142.52) She also had a lot of poise and stage presence. I distinctly remember Lou standing with her arms behind her back and thought what a great thing to do with them. I don't think women (especially if they're overweight) realize how ridiculous they look with their hands on their hips. (NT) -- No name, 09:54:05 03/25/24 Mon (184-97-43-207.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.43.207) USA wasnt ready for a black to black winner even though Miss America did it 90 91, They felt that Lu Parkers final answer was a little bit better than Pat's even though Pat won Swim & Interview (NT) -- No name, 11:21:20 03/20/24 Wed (c-69-250-100-76.hsd1.md.comcast.net/69.250.100.76) It almost happened in 91 with New Jersey (NT) -- No name, 16:01:51 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/184.151.190.38) Lu was mannish. Hated her look. (NT) -- No name, 18:50:28 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Lynn Jenkins, Miss NC was my pick. I never got Lu Parker or Pat Southall. (NT) -- No name, 21:39:04 03/24/24 Sun (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) It was fun seeing Lynn's daughter compete as Miss Maine USA 2023. (NT) -- No name, 10:26:54 03/28/24 Thu (192-181-132-150.res.spectrum.com/192.181.132.150) .....you mean her daughter Juliana Morehouse Locklear who was Mrs. Maine USA 2023 at last year's Miss USA pageant? -- That daughter (?) just to be clear?, 02:55:01 04/01/24 Mon (097-095-094-190.res.spectrum.com/97.95.94.190) Yep. (NT) -- No name, 14:11:20 04/02/24 Tue (192-181-132-150.res.spectrum.com/192.181.132.150) I remember this story about LU...KTLA anchor Lu Parker was arrested at LAX on Wednesday on suspicion of theft, police tell The Hollywood Reporter. The alleged incident occurred around 7:03 a.m. after police were notified of lost property at the TSA screening area in Terminal 6. An investigation into the matter revealed that a theft had occurred, police said. Frances Louise Parker, who goes by Lu, 48, a former Miss USA pageant queen, was located and allegedly had the stolen property � a pair of earbuds for music � on her person, police said. She was arrested on suspicion of petty theft and booked at the LAPD�s Pacific Division Jail. (NT) -- No name, 10:35:35 03/28/24 Thu (c-69-250-100-76.hsd1.md.comcast.net/69.250.100.76) And the date and news source for this embarrassing transgression against Americans?? You note KTLA, but was that also the news source you copied for your March 28th posting here? -- What you posted makes no mention if charges were made and Lu's plea in court was??, 02:52:43 04/01/24 Mon (097-095-094-190.res.spectrum.com/97.95.94.190) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09AW7s5TkOo (NT) -- No name, 08:49:17 03/31/24 Sun (188.sub-97-155-31.myvzw.com/97.155.31.188)

Subject: Michigan USA contestants revealed
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:03:23 04/01/24 Mon (NoHost/180.190.30.60) Miss (65): http://missmichiganusa.com/miusa2024/ Teen (27): http://missmichiganusa.com/miteen2024/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I see former teens Unjane� Wells (2016) and Alexis Lubecki (2019). (NT) -- VE, 21:41:07 04/01/24 Mon (NoHost/107.122.241.116)

Subject: MADISON MARSH VISITS ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY
Author: LOVEY HOWELL III (Garcia) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:37:46 03/22/24 Fri (NoHost/68.181.60.0) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I understand the solemness of the visit......but she looks SO BORED. Arms crossed is not a good look when listening to what was obviously a presentation of sorts. -- MA Can do better, 00:02:11 03/23/24 Sat (ip68-97-244-135.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.244.135) I was thinking the same thing. Could she be any less interested? (NT) -- No name, 17:33:53 03/23/24 Sat (104-7-243-204.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net/104.7.243.204) She looks pissed (NT) -- No name, 11:30:37 03/27/24 Wed (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) WE DO NOT KNOW LONG SHE WAS THERE. mAYBE SHE HAD TO PEE OR WAS HUNGRY (NT) -- No name, 01:21:31 03/24/24 Sun (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Maybe she didn't know what to do with her hands. Wonder if her skirt had pockets? (NT) -- No name, 11:46:15 03/24/24 Sun (248.sub-174-238-110.myvzw.com/174.238.110.248) Or maybe she was freezing? (NT) -- No name, 20:02:23 03/24/24 Sun (c-66-31-94-95.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/66.31.94.95) I love how she has copied Grace's hairstyle (NT) -- No name, 23:11:25 03/24/24 Sun (99-63-162-50.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/99.63.162.50) copied?? are you being serious?? (NT) -- No name, 11:09:46 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/128.163.239.200) I think she looks fine. It�s not the kind of moment for posing, modeling and mega-watt smiles. She looks the part in these pictures. (NT) -- No name, 04:39:21 03/25/24 Mon (d-23-245-106-245.oh.cpe.breezeline.net/23.245.106.245) Back in the day, my directors had their rules for titleholders. Never be photographed with a glass that could be perceived as alcohol. Wear the crown only for the most formal events. Knees together, ankles crossed when sitting. Suck it in and keep it sucked in at the event. Engage with every person in the room. One rule was NEVER fold your arms when wearing the sash. (NT) -- No name, 21:56:27 03/26/24 Tue (h250.246.140.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/67.140.246.250) Haven�t you heard? It�s a �new day� under Robin, which apparently means titleholders can act however they want (NT) -- No name, 00:08:04 03/27/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.78) Imagine a world where we allow young women to be themselves instead of forcing them to behave prim and proper in a crown. (NT) -- No name, 07:16:50 03/27/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.201.142) Yes, how dare we hold women with a prestigious title to a higher standard (NT) -- No name, 15:51:51 03/27/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.78) There's a difference between a high standard and forcing women to sit or stand a certain way. God forbid she crossed her arms over her sash. Blasphemy!! (NT) -- No name, 19:19:01 03/28/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.200.40) are there other unwritten rules? (NT) -- No name, 07:21:17 03/30/24 Sat (ip68-99-31-222.om.om.cox.net/68.99.31.222) People will compain no matter what she does, wears, says, etc. She looks interested and taking it all in to me. (NT) -- No name, 09:51:23 03/27/24 Wed (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) and here you are.... complaining about complaining. (NT) -- No name, 19:22:00 03/29/24 Fri (107-011-044-035.res.spectrum.com/107.11.44.35) Would you people prefer she say cheese for the camera while visiting the final resting place of our fallen military�.she looks engaged and respectful�sorry she is not paying more attention to what her arms are doing than the stories of fallen hero�s�. (NT) -- No name, 14:02:02 03/27/24 Wed (NoHost/91.229.244.103) Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 19:51:10 03/29/24 Fri (071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) remember a photo is but a split second. there are probably plenty of moments her arms weren't crossed (NT) -- No name, 14:04:09 03/31/24 Sun (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124)

Subject: Hawaii USA contestants are up
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:05:05 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/124.6.179.182) Miss (22, including former Teen and a sister of former titleholder) https://www.misshawaiiusa.com/voteMiss Teen (9) https://www.misshawaiiusa.com/voteTeen [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Who is the former teen? And who is the sister of a former? (NT) -- Any MAO crossovers?, 21:43:12 03/25/24 Mon (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Leimakamae Freitas was the former Teen, she was Miss Hawaii Teen USA 2019. The sister I told you is Breea Yamat, she is the sister of 2022 titleholder Kiana Yamat. (NT) -- No name, 22:11:35 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/124.6.179.182) 2 former teens actually Jocelyn Cruz was Miss New Mexico Teen USA 2004 (NT) -- VE, 23:14:09 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/107.122.241.57) Btw Jocelyn Cruz was 17 when she represented New Mexico at Miss Teen USA 2004 (NT) -- VE, 23:19:38 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/107.122.241.57) So she would be 37/36 now! (NT) -- No name, 18:59:28 03/30/24 Sat (107-179-250-136.cpe.teksavvy.com/107.179.250.136) These pics are really weird, they all look naked (NT) -- No name, 12:03:02 03/26/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) wow. even the teens. that is a creepy vibe (NT) -- No name, 15:36:59 03/26/24 Tue (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) WHY in the world would they use these photos????!?!?! They literally told every girl to wear something strapless so they could take her headshot???? Not only does it look ridiculous, shame on the organization for exploiting these women and intentionally making them look naked for no reason whatsoever (NT) -- No name, 18:31:04 03/26/24 Tue (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I agree , looks bad (NT) -- No name, 12:10:30 03/27/24 Wed (79.sub-174-193-132.myvzw.com/174.193.132.79) Bump (NT) -- No name, 13:19:36 03/28/24 Thu (94.sub-174-193-130.myvzw.com/174.193.130.94) Leimakamae is a fantastic looking girl, but this pic of hers could not be any worse.... or wait, maybe Khun Anne will dig it, but she has to tone it down on the state level at least. This is not Miss Grand International. (NT) -- No name, 19:04:35 03/30/24 Sat (107-179-250-136.cpe.teksavvy.com/107.179.250.136)

Subject: Mississippi USA contestants are up
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:03:03 03/27/24 Wed (NoHost/180.190.230.116) Miss with 25: https://www.missmississippiusa.com/msusa2024/ Teen with 22: https://www.missmississippiusa.com/msteen2024/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The former Teens are competing in Miss are Kaylee Brooke McCollum (2019) and Zoe Bigham (2020). Former MS Volunteer Teen Elaina Uzzle is on Teen category. (NT) -- No name, 18:38:48 03/27/24 Wed (NoHost/180.190.230.89) Regarding on Zoe Bigham, she was Asya Branch's Teen "sister" in 2020. (NT) -- No name, 03:52:15 03/30/24 Sat (NoHost/180.190.75.14) Does not seem like a lot of contestants for a Southern Pageant state. (NT) -- No name, 18:12:56 03/30/24 Sat (248.sub-174-238-110.myvzw.com/174.238.110.248)

Subject: Why raise the age limit just to lower it? Per the MAO website for currently cycle 25 age is 18-28, but cycle 26 is 17-27. Local directors seem unaware of change . Feeling bad for those 1997 girls who thought they had this year and next year to compete
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:22:38 03/07/24 Thu (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Based on this change, Miss America can be a 17-year-old in the middle of her senior year of high school. Silly! (NT) -- No name, 14:23:24 03/07/24 Thu (173-22-248-23.client.mchsi.com/173.22.248.23) Back in MAO 1.0, this was also the case. To be eligible for Miss instead of teen, you had to be a senior in high school OR 18 years old, so many 17-year-old seniors chose to compete in Miss in my state back then. Not sure why, I wanted to stay in Teen as long as I could! (NT) -- No name, 14:34:52 03/07/24 Thu (098-146-192-217.res.spectrum.com/98.146.192.217) But without that "at least a senior in high school distinction" that there used to be then, this will make many junior girls ineligible for Teen. They will have to compete for Miss as Juniors. Also how is a state titleholder or a Miss America going to have time for that and senior year of high school?! (NT) -- No name, 16:18:22 03/07/24 Thu (83.sub-174-192-71.myvzw.com/174.192.71.83) Juniors being eligible for Miss is ridiculous. Hope they change this. (NT) -- No name, 11:07:33 03/15/24 Fri (128-092-047-106.biz.spectrum.com/128.92.47.106) I can confirm that the age ranges on the website are wrong and are subject to change to fit the eligibility requirements stated in the contact that the cut of is indeed 28 years of age. (NT) -- No name, 07:10:33 03/08/24 Fri (NoHost/31.192.1.31) We were told that max age of 28 is correct for the current cycle but will be dropping to 27 for the next cycle. (NT) -- No name, 19:19:36 03/08/24 Fri (67.sub-174-211-165.myvzw.com/174.211.165.67) Absolutely unfair to the girls that thought they�d have one more year than they do. (NT) -- No name, 21:41:02 03/08/24 Fri (130.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.130) It's not unfair since they don't have a RIGHT to another year. The MAO changes the rules EVERY season. And from their track record, I don't trust anything the MAO says will happen, will happen- remember that fabulous 100th Shantel kept promising/ gaslighting us with for two years?? We've had plenty of evidence for many years that the MAO doesn't keep their word, why would any thinking person believe they would now? (NT) -- Ugly lesson of duplicitous people & businesses from a program that's supposed to empower young women, 12:52:12 03/09/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.78.188) Nobody has a �right� to anything in pageants, but that doesn�t make the situation any less unfair. (NT) -- No name, 15:46:45 03/09/24 Sat (c-76-155-238-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net/76.155.238.54) I don't know that it's "unfair" since it's ample warning. Unfair would have been the 2002 pageant season (either 2002 or 2003) when they pushed the birth month out. It used to be the cutoff was September and they moved it to December. So the age restriction read "you must be 24 years old as of September 30th of the year of Miss A finals" and was changed to "you must be 24 years old as of December 31st of the Miss A finals" MID SEASON. So girls who were turning 25 in October, November, and December were suddenly ineligible. This affected one of my friends who had won a local title, then had to give it up because they changed the age restriction and she hadn't yet signed the state contract and state wouldn't allow her to sign. Now THAT wasn't fair. She almost sued, but her lawyer said it was the local that was in breach since she hadn't signed state yet and she didn't want to sue the local (NT) -- No name, 19:14:05 03/11/24 Mon (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Are we supposed to take your confirmation as more official than the official memo that came directly from MAO with the age changes? (NT) -- No name, 20:39:00 03/08/24 Fri (NoHost/65.49.97.151) The dates on the new contestant contract for Cycle 26, very clearly state a contestant must be born in the years 1998-2008. (NT) -- No name, 20:41:41 03/08/24 Fri (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Does anyone have any insight as to why? Curious since it was just raised why drop it down a year? (NT) -- No name, 21:34:56 03/09/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.76.235) Bc the majority of pageant 'girls' who are 28yos look long in the tooth. They look OLD compared to the traditional college-aged 'Miss'. Bad for the brand. (NT) -- No name, 20:07:45 03/10/24 Sun (bhs4.nux.net/167.114.175.21) Speak for yourself honey. I�m nearing 30 and people still confuse me for the teens. -- The girls you think are so �old looking� aren�t even at the top of the range., 00:09:56 03/11/24 Mon (pool-173-79-206-245.washdc.fios.verizon.net/173.79.206.245) I said, a majority are-- not every one, and sorry you don't realize there's no way for it to be personal. Talk about an ego! (NT) -- me me it's all about meeeeeeeee!, 10:49:08 03/11/24 Mon (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111) I'm sure the 27 year olds look like babies (NT) -- No name, 19:18:04 03/11/24 Mon (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I disagree. I�ve seen youthful looking older titleholders and some of the young titleholders look extremely processed despite being in their early 20�s. Someone of the competitors at Miss Alabamas teen look older than some Misses (NT) -- No name, 10:21:44 03/12/24 Tue (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) I believe it was raised because of Covid that one year. (NT) -- Klm, 20:37:44 03/10/24 Sun (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) They made a instagram post when grace stanke just won. She was in a beauty chair getting dolled up. They said they increased the age limit to 28 because a certain high % of women hold college debt. BUT THEN THEY REVOKE IT. Make that make sense. (NT) -- No Name., 02:26:43 03/12/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Because the original 2020 age eligibility was 25 years old above on or after January 1st, 1995. However, it had been extended to a year due to the delay and this made a grandfather clause. (NT) -- No name, 10:35:29 03/12/24 Tue (NoHost/124.6.179.182) I feel SO BAD for all the 1997 girls that thought they would have an extra year to get their dream. Has Robin communicated this to anyone during her director meetings? (NT) -- No Name, 17:39:14 03/11/24 Mon (NoHost/31.192.1.31) This is so wrong. They better fix that (NT) -- No name, 00:52:15 03/13/24 Wed (136-56-73-253.googlefiber.net/136.56.73.253) Feel bad for those women? Really---when they had how many years to compete year after year after year (and probably in multiple of border-hoping states)....they had plenty of chances. -- By now those born in 1997 should be in graduate school, working jobs and even being married., 11:32:08 03/13/24 Wed (075-128-209-206.res.spectrum.com/75.128.209.206) Sure, it should be the same amount of years for EVERYONE. Stop changing it over and over. What if you took time off expecting to have a certain amount of time. It�s disappointing (NT) -- No name, 12:41:50 03/13/24 Wed (136-56-73-253.googlefiber.net/136.56.73.253) Exactly. The 28yo extension was simply a money grab. The girls who compete at that age were typically already in the program, don't have what it takes to win, but feel they have to try 'one last time'. In a fair state, if you haven't won in 2-4 state competitions, depending on the size of the state, you won't. And before you post anecdotal stories of how Susie won on her 7th try, don't. We all know the girl who is wonderful, but lacking somehow who keeps hoping she'll win, by only changing her gown. (NT) -- No name, 12:47:31 03/13/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.104.79) So then make it a state competition limit. TN used to have one that said you could only compete at state a total of 3 times, even if you didn't age out (NT) -- No name, 15:10:34 03/13/24 Wed (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) That�s assuming everyone woman got into pageants right at 17/18. If we want to keep brining woman into pageantry we have to stop operating from those assumptions (NT) -- No name, 14:14:15 03/13/24 Wed (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) Seriously, how many of the 26, 27, & 28yo's are new comers to pageantry? It's a money grab by Robin. (NT) -- No name, 16:09:06 03/16/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.103.81) I know several young woman who got started in their early 20�s (22-23) COVID put a half and are still in their early years at 25,26,27 (NT) -- No name, 23:04:59 03/16/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.92.201) Maybe the website just needs updating? (NT) -- No name, 16:30:59 03/13/24 Wed (109.indianapolis-10rh16rt-11rh15rt.in.dial-access.att.net/12.74.54.109) I say cut the age down to 24 or 25. We don't need these 27/28 year olds who can barely win a local clogging up the state system. Unless you are in medical school you would not be able to use the scholarship at that age [if you are still using education as your eligibility]. At 28 a contestant would have 10 YEARS of competition under her belt. TBH if you can't get it done in 5 or 6 years, it's not going to happen for you. (NT) -- No name, 09:01:51 03/15/24 Fri (NoHost/156.63.69.142) Not everyone starts pageants at 18, hope that helps! (NT) -- No name, 19:52:07 03/16/24 Sat (mobile-166-199-099-098.mycingular.net/166.199.99.98) That may have been true in the past but if you were almost at your peak or there pre covid, then the covid years wiped that out for many girls! (NT) -- my view, 18:42:31 03/18/24 Mon (99-152-119-100.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net/99.152.119.100) Lol, if anything, because of Covid, older girls got involved. I know some who placed well, took a couple years off and then Covid made them take an extra year off, and now they were left with two years to compete. And personally, I know at least 7 women who got involved at 25/26. Back when Grace Stanke just won, Miss America dolled up her in a beauty chair and made a post of �bring back the four points� AND �raising the age limit to 28 because 48% of women hold college age debt and this would help them with their post graduate degree�. Don�t believe me? Stroll all the way down on their Instagram page to look for yourself. The post is still there. (NT) -- No name, 00:04:11 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Why do you care about the age? You sound extremely bitter. (NT) -- No name, 11:05:05 03/30/24 Sat (232-134-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.134.232)

Subject: Louisiana USA contestants are up
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:20:30 03/17/24 Sun (NoHost/124.6.179.182) Miss (27; including a former Teen): https://www.misslouisianausa.com/miss-contestants/ Teen (28): https://www.misslouisianausa.com/teen-contestants/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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who is the former teen? (NT) -- No name, 00:14:01 03/18/24 Mon (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Sydney Taylor (2020), she was 4th runner-up in Teen USA 2020 to Kiilani Arruda. (NT) -- No name, 02:16:02 03/18/24 Mon (NoHost/124.6.179.182) Some look like they have had a bad day Is it popular to have a headshot looking like someone just killed your puppy? (NT) -- No name, 02:58:13 03/18/24 Mon (201.sub-174-193-129.myvzw.com/174.193.129.201) Yes, many models and pageant contestants look like somebody won't " Leggo their Eggo!" (NT) -- No name, 14:02:37 03/18/24 Mon (80.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.80) Emily Randon is GORGEOUS! Much prettier than headshot. Jovani Elite model! (NT) -- No name, 15:38:52 03/19/24 Tue (68-72-113-141.lightspeed.btrgla.sbcglobal.net/68.72.113.141) Emily is gorgeous, but looks so different! Did she have work done? (NT) -- It used to be her eyes and overall face features, now all I see is lips., 16:10:08 03/22/24 Fri (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) She looks stoned and over-processed to me. I don't care for this look at all, but it is USA. (NT) -- No name, 12:01:06 03/25/24 Mon (bhs4.nux.net/167.114.175.21) Jourdan Waddell was a double prelim winner at Miss Louisiana last year and made top 5 three of the four years she competed. RPM has a certain look they tend to crown and the former teen seems to have that stink this year. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 10:38:24 03/22/24 Fri (ip98-169-228-239.dc.dc.cox.net/98.169.228.239) These are beautiful girls, but not beautiful pictures. Most look like they are trying WAY too hard. Too much hair and wind machines. And I NEVER can get into the "hands in the picture". I wish a headshot would just feature the young woman, and stop trying to be a fashion magazine cover. -- NO HANDS!!, 10:50:48 03/22/24 Fri (ip68-97-244-135.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.244.135) Love a great editorial look - these women are competing to be Miss State, not for a position with a law firm. Note, over editing is an issue - I want to be able to recognize her when she walks in the room, but love the glamour, a well placed hand, some wind so the picture isn�t static or stale! (NT) -- No name, 22:01:54 03/25/24 Mon (47-201-65-158.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.65.158) There�s something about RPM and their contestants; for years, their headshots have been so photoshopped and airbrushed, that they look completely different from their SM pages. (NT) -- No name, 04:44:58 03/25/24 Mon (d-23-245-106-245.oh.cpe.breezeline.net/23.245.106.245) What's with all the hard jawlines, when these girls don't have jawlines you want to highlight!?! Some of them are sticking their chin out, making it look bigger! This shows the beautiful girls don't need all the processing. (NT) -- No name, 12:08:51 03/25/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.104.78) Fantasy Campers?? They should probably come up with a different name! (NT) -- No name, 10:40:55 03/26/24 Tue (NoHost/69.214.90.25) I agree. (NT) -- No name, 12:40:16 03/26/24 Tue (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) RPM is sort of the gold standard within Miss USA (along with Vanbros). I think a few of these are highly impressive and could be carried over to nationals. (NT) -- No name, 09:05:34 03/27/24 Wed (192-181-132-150.res.spectrum.com/192.181.132.150)

Subject: It's HER
Author: Lovey Howell III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:32:15 02/17/24 Sat (035-129-116-159.res.spectrum.com/35.129.116.159) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Two BEAUTIFUL winners! (NT) -- No name, 08:53:01 02/17/24 Sat (67-197-35-10.cm.ftmlsc.dyn.comporium.net/67.197.35.10) How can we subscribe or otherwise get out hands on one? Sincere question. (NT) -- No name, 16:15:18 02/18/24 Sun (c-73-218-186-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/73.218.186.228) You can get the digital copy by using the QR code in the image (NT) -- No name, 17:58:49 02/18/24 Sun (ip98-165-68-82.ph.ph.cox.net/98.165.68.82) How can I get a paper copy? (NT) -- No name, 02:20:48 03/08/24 Fri (152.sub-174-193-131.myvzw.com/174.193.131.152) Are there hard copies of this magazine? I thought it was only digital. (NT) -- No name, 12:36:39 03/13/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.56.42) Did anyone see the faux pas where Miss Fl teen was shown as 3rd runner up instead of the correct Miss Texas teen�.ooopps (NT) -- That was removed quickly, 22:04:44 02/18/24 Sun (NoHost/153.92.40.163) The key is that it was fixed immediately. Lots of exciting new things happening at Miss America! (NT) -- No name, 23:17:42 02/18/24 Sun (99-74-255-5.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.74.255.5) Aaand just like that, the Pony-Kick is back. (NT) -- No name, 16:19:28 03/06/24 Wed (77.sub-72-106-22.myvzw.com/72.106.22.77) where can i get this It is not on their website (NT) -- No name, 23:33:59 03/08/24 Fri (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) https://officiallyher.missamerica.org/?fbclid=PAAaYtqfWQP4flL2WVLnXoVwBp_XvOwHdMiYiqqj1u0YCCCTzcV9QbXQGm2WI_aem_AdauEb_lwG2G-GOLjU8xazEbqXIRFnmaAlKzdd2ToYEdF_VXg1o25kZCRoykfLOgdXI (NT) -- No name, 06:04:46 03/11/24 Mon (191.sub-174-238-225.myvzw.com/174.238.225.191) Bump (NT) -- No name, 23:26:28 03/11/24 Mon (133.sub-174-193-192.myvzw.com/174.193.192.133) this is the MAO store but the magazine is not there clothing and such (NT) -- No name, 21:29:11 03/12/24 Tue (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) That link literally takes you to the digital version of the magazine (NT) -- No name, 15:08:59 03/14/24 Thu (ip98-165-68-82.ph.ph.cox.net/98.165.68.82) it took me to the mao shop and no magazine is there Where to get it? (NT) -- No name, 18:50:39 03/14/24 Thu (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Officiallyher.missamerica.org takes you to the magazine. Shop.missamerica.org takes you to the online store. So the link above will take you to the magazine. (NT) -- No name, 20:43:21 03/14/24 Thu (ip98-165-68-82.ph.ph.cox.net/98.165.68.82) TRIED IT wHY IS IT NOT WORKING hAS ANYONE ELSE TRIED (NT) -- No name, 17:50:03 03/15/24 Fri (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) bump (NT) -- No name, 17:46:48 03/16/24 Sat (076-082-255-126.res.spectrum.com/76.82.255.126) Officiallyher.missamerica.org Worked fine for me (NT) -- No name, 18:18:27 03/16/24 Sat (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) Bump for tomorrow (NT) -- No name, 01:30:00 03/17/24 Sun (214.sub-174-193-133.myvzw.com/174.193.133.214) The teen looks like an awful mean girl in every picture she takes. (NT) -- No name, 10:43:53 03/20/24 Wed (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Maybe, but she's on the cover of a magazine and you're talking trash on the internet, so... (NT) -- No name, 13:32:01 03/22/24 Fri (c-66-31-94-95.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/66.31.94.95) And neither one knows how to fix their hair. Straight & Stringy (NT) -- No name, 17:33:11 03/25/24 Mon (108-220-141-129.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net/108.220.141.129)

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