Theory: Gerson is Gaster
Deltarune's characters seem to be a few years older than they were in Undertale (Asriel is in college, for example, and Monster Kid definitely looks older than in UT. If we consider Kris a counterpart to Chara or Frisk, then they're older in this world, too). Gerson was an old man in Undertale, so in a few years old age may have finally gotten to him. That's an explanation for his death, without him needing to be Gaster.
That’s a good explanation. I didn’t think of that. I feel like by the time Undertale takes place Asriel would’ve been college age though. He appears as a child at the end because that’s what he looked like last. I always assumed he had been Flowey for a while and dead even longer before that. And I wouldn’t say Kris is a counterpart to Frisk. They seem like separate characters to me, but that’s just my opinion.
Given that we know undertale takes place at least a hundred years after Asriel's death(Undyne and Papyrus were born in the 90s of some century, and neither has seen a human in person before, meaning they must have been born in 209X at the earliest), he'd be a little bit past college age.
Flowey is also a relatively new thing, as he was created by Alphys at around the same time as the amalgamates. Since they already had six souls at the time of Alphys' experiments, and Snowdrake, who ran away from home after his mother fell down, is still a teen, the experiments took place a few years ago at most, ignoring Flowey's many resets.
Also, Kris combines quite a few traits from Frisk and Chara. They're essentially a counterpart to both at once.
but 10 times more on the chara side
Yes and no.
They do borrow more from Chara personality-wise, but their appearance is much closer to Frisk.
You know monsters don't age like humans do? Toriel says she hasn't seen a human in the ruins for at least a century, meaning she is well over a hundred...
That is because she is a boss monster without a living child or parent. She doesn't just age differently, she is physically incapable of aging. This is a trait exclusive to boss monster, meaning just her and Asgore.
But Asriel hasn't aged in Undertale technically. As Flowey he didn't age and he was still a child upon being turned back. You cant even say he mentally aged as he wouldnt have learnt the knowledge that would be taught in the years leading up to college, all he learnt in his time as Flowey is about resets and the timeline through his own experience. He's mentally and physically the same age as he was when he first died. Therefore he technically hasnt aged per say.
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It’s highly possible Gerson is a boss monster, because he fought in the war, which happened at least 2000 years ago, he should’ve been dead by now unless he was a boss monster. On the other hand, it could just be a reference to Gerson being a turtle, whom are famous for living so long
The Dreemurrs are the only remaining Boss monsters.
They're a specific subspecies like Skeletons or Fish people, so a turtlelike monster could not possibly be one.
Pretty sure MK is actually their sister that they mention in the whole "you're a human, guess i have to hate you, say something mean" thing
Also Asriel is probably in collage because he didn't die in this timeline
Impossible, Gerson was present during the war between humans and monsters, so he already existed before Gaster even became the royal scientist. Hey, at least this theory was creative though unlike most I see here
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But why would every have started calling him W D Gaster?
That is good point. This is a big stretch, but maybe Gaster is just a fake name. Considering the nature of the experiments being done in the true lab, I'd imagine whoever was doing them would want some level of anonymity.
Fair enough. Makes me wonder if WD actually stands for wingdings or something different
he could have, but if Gaster/Gerson was shattered across time and space during his time as the royal scientist, and the effects of that were bad enough to necessitate a replacement, I feel like someone would probably notice that kind of a change in this legendary hero who's just chilling in his shop.
also, some things the Gaster followers say like "it's rude to talk about someone who's listening" seem to imply Gaster is currently in a non-corporeal state where he can just hear anyone, not that he's some guy who lives on the other side of the Underground.
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I already have a headcanon that gaster was split into multiple characters (mainly sans, papyrus, and mystery man) so I suppose I can make room for Gerson. Seems a little random, but after all, why couldn't the turtle be gaster. What do you two think?
Ah the four fragments
Calcium siblings, guy that disappears faster than my Dad, and Ancient Bowser
This Comment is gold
Nah it aint gold
Its the entire damn diamond mine
Dry Bowser
Gerson already existed before the invention of the core, so in this case it is a no
so did gaster, he built it dawg
Yeah, but if Gerson already existed before The Core, therefore this means he is not a Gaster fragment
Oh I see what you’re getting at. That’s a fair point actually
Undertale fans when someone has hands (they're gaster because gaster speaks in hands)
I am hand
Kid named Hand:
well yeah
I fucking hate that kid named hand, always saying he is hand.
Waltuh
I didn’t even mention that line
It’s a joke
I'm not convinced. Why would Toby randomly start calling Gaster Gerson for no reason? Why not just keep Gaster as Gaster and Gerson as Gerson? There's no other cases of characters being weirdly fused like that. Why take Gaster from Undertale, put him in Deltarune, but then name him after a completely different Undertale character?
And I'm even less convinced that Undertale Gerson is Gaster. Gerson isn't related to Gaster in any way and is always there. He's not in grayscale, he's not related to the fun value, he's just a regular guy.
It is interesting that Toby chose to kill Gerson, but I don't think this is why
And Gerson has a pre-existing past as the "hammer of justice"
If he did work some place, it'd be as a royal guard.
also, Gerson in Deltarune was originally a smith, who then later became a poplar writer with his series "Lord of the Hammer" and worked as a teacher. he's certainly intelligent, but I'm not sure if he's royal scientist levels of intelligent.
Perhaps due to the ageing up of characters. Gerson is old as hell, why wouldn't he die of old age?
Nobody else was really noticeably agreed up tho
Monster kid, Asriel, even snowdrake has some visual differences.
Asriel is literally a college student.
While Monster Kid and Snowdrake were always stated to be teens, now they look the part.
Heck, even Toriel has gone from only using reading glasses to wearing them full-time.
That's not much of an increase in age from how old he was in Undertale, especially if you're counting from his actual age rather than his age when he died
It is interesting that Toby chose to kill Gerson, but I don't think this is why
i think the characters in DT are a little aged up over undertale since asriel is in college and monster kid looks older, so gerson might just have died of old age
Maybe it’s not random. Maybe he did it for a reason.
I mean, given that one scene with Fathee Alvin, I suspect that might be involved with his reasoning for Gerson being dead.
no offense.
but i highly doubt this.
good theory tho.
Honestly the theory isn’t that good because it is pretty contradictable, Gaster isn’t dead in Undertale, but doesn’t exist, just split and scattered across timelines, Gerson isn’t. Furthermore there’s an explanation for Gerson dying in Deltarune, we know he fought in the war confirmed by undyne, so he is extremely old, confirmed by the fact the war happened at least 2000 years ago, this is confirmed bratty saying “millennia of being imprisoned”. So in the next game: Deltarune, which takes place a couple years after Undertale, it makes perfect sense that Gerson is dead.
While I agree that this particular theory has a lot of contradicting information that can debunk it fairly easily, I do have a correction regarding your last sentence:
Deltarune isn't part of the Undertale universe, Toby Fox has emphasized this right when Chapter 1 was about to be released.
Specifically he says, "I will say that basically, what you're seeing here is not the world of UNDERTALE. UNDERTALE's world and ending are the same as however you left them. [...] To rephrase that, DELTARUNE's world is a different one. With different characters that live different lives."
Albeit that doesn’t confirm that Deltarune is an alternate universe, so it’s either an alternate universe or an alternate timeline
Yeah, I definitely think they're an alternate or even parallel timeline of each other in some way
Gaster could’ve spilt in a way where parts of his personality went along with said person. The laid back part of him to sans, i dont know how to explain papyrus but yeah, the mystery man could’ve taken his desire to create and wisdom, while Gerson took his memories and eccentric side of him.
Idk but it made me think something like that.
That's along the line of what I was thinking, though I think the sans Gaster connection doesn't run that deeply.
Thats true. Maybe they worked together in the lab or something, like with alphys
𝙸𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐. 𝚆𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚒𝚏 𝚒𝚗 𝚞𝚗𝚍𝚎𝚛𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚎 𝙶𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚏𝚊k𝚎𝚍 𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚑 𝚝𝚘 𝚋𝚎 𝚐𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚘𝚗 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒𝚗 𝚍𝚎𝚕𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚞𝚗𝚎 𝚐𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚘𝚗 𝚏𝚊𝚔𝚎𝚍 𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚑 𝚝𝚘 𝚋𝚎 𝚐𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛. 𝙸’𝚟𝚎 𝚐𝚘𝚝 𝚗𝚘 𝚎𝚟𝚒𝚍𝚎𝚗𝚌𝚎 𝚓𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚘𝚞𝚐𝚑𝚝𝚜 .
Gerson is Gaster is the Knight
And Kris is just Gaster’s intern. He’s actually reading Gerson’s last school manual « World destruction using darkness, magic and dangerous power generators for idiot babies »
Same or similar job.
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Gaster ain’t dead, just split and scattered across universes. Also We can only assume Gerson died from natural causes in Deltarune, not so mysterious why he died but because he’s dead is what’s interesting. Just being nitpicky
Gerson is the turtle that sells stuff
yes, and?
GERSON IS THE TURTLE THAT SELLS STUFF
YES, AND?
Gerson is an animal who is known for living a long life, walking slowly and being a living tank (often known as a turtle or tortoise) who trades objects in exchange for money (called G or Gold)
No
But Alphys is a teacher and not a scientist
Also, Asgore's a florist, not the mayor or some other political figure.
Edit: Napstablook's also a cop, instead of a DJ. Mettaton is also implied to just be a shut-in, without a job in entertainment. If you REALLY want to be petty, there's also the royal guard dogs, who are doing the exact opposite of their original jobs as guards and are now robbers.
Napstablook still has music as a hobby, and Mettaton was the same way until Alphys made him a new, robot body.
From what I understand the Undertale counterparts are bigger versions of the jobs/roles in Deltarune, or at least some of them Royal Guard Captain=Police Royal scientist=teacher(is Alphys specifically a science teacher or is she just a teacher?) Guide/battle mechanic teacher in Undertale= kindergarten teacher
Some of them might be slightly changed also(like Alphys being a teacher) because it makes sense in the context of this being a small monster town, so no scientists(maybe)
Alphys definitely isn't a science teacher, given how the one class we've seen was just Berdly standing on his desk reading out loud. Given the lack of other teachers, I suspect she might just teach all subjects.
Also, the canine unit are now the baddies of Home Alone, and Mettaton is implied to never even leave the family house. Both the opposite of what they did in Undertale. Not to mention that Asgore, rather than being a political figure, is an ex-cop turned Florist, and Blooky, rather than being a snail farmer, is a cop.
But it's the equivalent job in the Deltarune world. Undyne isn't a soldier in Deltarune, but a police officer is similar enough, while making sense in the context of the world. Undyne has aggressive and violent tendencies, leading her to pursue jobs that can let her make use of those traits regardless of the universe, and Alphys is a scholarly person, leading her to pursue scholarly professions, regardless of the universe.
Scientists.......exist in this universe???
Ok yeah but alphys was a scientist in Undertale and is now a teacher in deltarune, it makes sense that the same would happen with gaster.
Again, scientists are a thing in this universe
Teachers can be scientists lol
You have a point, but there are no labs in hometown.
Well, the bunker could be one. It has relations to the 'garbage noise' sound, a staple of Gasters.
So Toby could have added one in
I’m a little confused because, in Undertale, Gerson was a shopkeeper but in Deltarune, he was a teacher and author. I might be missing the point of the post.
There a lot of similarities between things that happen to characters in Deltarune and Undertale. My theory is that because in Undertale, Alphys succeeds Gaster as Scientist, and in Deltarune, Alphys succeeds Gerson as Teacher, there is a possibility that Gaster and Gerson could be the same person because Alphys succeeds both of them in academic based professions in both universes. It doesn't make a lot of sense compared to other theories, but I feel like there's so much mystery surrounding such an unassuming character that I feel like there has to be something deeper going on.
Ah, ok.
Great theory, which could have some truth, just one thing: we dont know if the disappearing creepy man in undertale IS gaster. It obviusly is associated to him, like every FUN stuff, but we cant know yet if he IS gaster. Sorry but its just that i see so many assuptions taken like facts in undertale/deltarune
Exactly, Gerson could be Gaster even if Mysterman is just a red herring or if it actually is him.
Idk why you mention that, but i am glad you dont think what i say is bs
We... literally do know that the Mystery Man isn't Gaster. Aside from the lack of any kind of concrete connection between them, we literally see one of the followers holding a piece of him, and that piece of him matches the followers colour schemes rather than the Mystery Man's colour scheme.
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The mystery man is the one in deltarune (Yea i know i too dont know how to call it) and 2. How is fricking color scheme a proof
1.The Mystery man is the name of the sprite that appears in that one Waterfall room. The deltarune character is only known as "a man".
2. Colour scheme is not proof, merely strong evidence.
There's also the complete lack of a concrete connection, and the fact that Gaster is shattered.
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I think the fandom calls the man that gives eggs mystery man because “man” is too generic 2. How is color palette strong evidence 3. There is actually a connection: 1. FUN stuff is almost always connected to gaster 2. Gaster being fractured by time and space may allow him to teleport/time travel, which is what the undertale Mystery Man does 3. As you like visual evidence, gaster has one of if not the Most unique sprite of all FUN stuff, so it is probably more important 4. Strangely, one of the only body parts that you can see of the Mystery Man Are his hands, which is one of the most used And iconic symbol used in windings
Im not saying the mystery man IS gaster, just that it is the only one that has actual proof for saying he is gaster, ecept the piece that one of the gaster followers have, which is confirmed to be gaster
I like the theory but I sadly don't think it's true. However you bring up a lot of good things that could be looked into for other theorizing. I never really thought about Gerson this much but now that you've brought it up I realize there really is a lot more lore relevance to him than I previously thought.
that moment when the only thing we know is gaster is that little lump one of the gaster followers is holding
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Gerson is also an anagram for goners.
IF YA REARRANGE THE LETTERS YOU GET MEDia ConTrOl
You know reading this has made me realize that even if he's not Gaster, Gerson could be a great fit for the knight. Although his motivations wouldn't be too developed
Honestly this isn't that bad of a theory and doesn't sound too big of a stretch to be believable
“Gerson is dead in deltarune but not in undertale therefore I think that he is Gaster” is a conclusion that I have a hard time understanding. Could you please elaborate upon that part?
That’s not really one of my main points, but a coincidence that I find hard to ignore. The fact that all the other graves are closely related to the core and the true lab makes it extra interesting.
It’s just that it was the point that you introduced the claim with and is what originally supposedly creates the suspicion that he’d be Gaster. I agree that Gerson has to have some sort of important connection to deltarune that will potentially become more apparent in the future but I don’t think that said connection necessarily means that he’s Gaster.
Nooooo dog is ded
The Deltarune characters seem to be older than how old they've been in Undertale.
So, that can explain Gerson's death.
I’m pretty sure the reason gets on died was because he had a kid and boss monsters in undertale live forever until they have a child where they’ll start to age
That’s a good theory, but from what we know, Asgore, Toriel, and Asriel are the only known Boss Monsters. Gerson is just a regular monster.
They literally call Gerson "The Hammer of Justice". That's his grave.
But Gerson is alive in Undertale, Gaster isn’t
There is so much more evidence speaking for this theory and I love it! Like just as one little example.. Gaster Blasters look very much like turtle skulls! And I bet Hometown’s graveyard will turn into a darkworld at some point and then the Hammer with Gersons dust burried in his grave would become a Darkner.. or something else? Even if he isn't Gaster himself he definetly has a lot connections to him! I recommend this analysis and theory by JaruJaruJ about who the knight might be! https://youtu.be/2jWrZMLwPpM His speculations and the evidence he shows near the end of the video are very very interesting!
I'm gonna be real with you: when I woke up this morning I wasn't expecting "getting on board with Gerson=Gaster" would be a thing I did today
It's funny how the first time I heard of Gaster I thought the person was talking about Gerson and was really confused
something that makes this hard to believe to me is the dialogue from the secret Gaster followers. they describe his fate as "but his life was cut short" and "he vanished without a trace", which seem to imply pretty strongly that at LEAST the physical form of Gaster died.
one follower says he has "a piece of him right here", with a grey face in his hand, giving us an idea of what Gaster's fragments look like. to me it seems like he was shattered into pieces way too small to comprise an entire person that can survive just fine and isn't completely insane.
I also just find it strange that the people closest to him, his followers, would refer to the doctor as "W.D. Gaster" and never his real name "Gerson", or never mention that a large fragment of him is still alive in this world. Gerson and Gaster are just never really hinted at being related in any way whatsoever.
So, consider Undertale and Deltarune as two parallel worlds. Under normal circumstances they'll never overlap, but we can assume they share the same rules (aside from the Dark World). Deltarune is farther along in its time axis than Undertale, so characters from Undertale are older in Deltarune. Gerson is dead because of that. He passed of old age. I do think there's significance in him knowing about the Deltarune in Undertale, but we'll have to wait to see what that is exactly.
Gaster isn't technically "dead". He was "removed" in a sense. Game concepts that you see all the time are phenomena that exist in these two worlds, like "saving" and "loading" are seen as time manipulation in world. Gaster is "dummied out" where an early story concept is taken out but a few elements remain in the game without directly referencing what was removed. In universe, this looks like a man who "died" except nobody remembers him, yet his marks on the world still exist and are definitely felt. The followers/goners are likely those who were "too close" to him and were removed as well. His influence in Deltarune is likely due to the fact that he still exists on some level, just outside existence (outside the game).
I dont get why so many people are saying that Deltarune is further in time than Undertale was. Asriel seems the same age if not younger than his counterpart in undertale, and in Deltarune, sans says he just moved in, and sans had been living in Snowdin for a long time before Undertale.
Mainly because of characters like Monster Kid being older and Gerson's death being indicators. We're not told what age Asriel is supposed to be in Undertale, but most use that as a point of reference as well.
Sans might possibly be a special case. Undertale showed us that he plays with time-space physics on the regular and is even aware of anomalies in the timeline.
I feel like monster kid only looks older because of his redesign
They're definitely older. Bigger question would be whether or not the Monster Kid in Deltarune is the parallel to the one in Undertale or if they're a parallel to Goner Kid instead
They(not him, Toby was very careful to correct himself upon making that exact mistake) became a lot bigger. They go from smaller than Frisk to about the same size as Kris, a gap that cannot be explained as an unintended symptom of a redesign.
Combined with the fact that the other returning character in Kris' class, Snowy, is also slightly bigger, it's pretty obvious that the two of them are meant to be older.
Here’s an explanation for that sentiment that everyone seems to have for no apparent reason. This is just MY reason for believing it and I may not share it with many people. I believe Kris is the Deltarune version of Frisk, and in essence, would make Deltarune fit a couple years after the events of Undertale in the timeline. First of all Frisk is an anagram of Kris, while the F is missing, it could be revealed that Kris’s middle initial is F, a character later on could refer to us as “Kris F.” which would solve this discrepancy. Kris’s equipment is also very similar, he has a wooden pencil and a bandage, Frisk has a wooden stick and a bandage. They of course both have red souls. Both Kris and Frisk have a bond with Asriel, Frisk can be adopted by the Dreemurrs, just like Kris. They both have an extremely great deal of determination, enough to save, reload and persist after dying, Frisk is also the only human who could do this, Chara or the 6 slain humans couldn’t do this. Even if this was simply because of the dark world, you need a great deal of determination to open a dark fountain, and we see Kris do exactly that. They are also both possessed by the player. They have personal similarities as well we know each of the human souls had an attribute connected to it.
The red soul’s attribute is accepted to be Determination, but there’s an issue with this, Chara doesn’t have much Determination. I think the red soul represents LOVE, Chara’s soul represents level of violence, while Frisk’s soul represents represents actual LOVE, or you can say it’s a flip two sides of the same coin situation and have Chara’s soul be hatred and Frisk’s soul be love, they ultimately mean the same thing. Love and hate are most commonly represented by the colour red. I shouldn’t have to convince you that Chara is filled with hatred, but I do have to convince you about frisk, since we don’t see frisk do many things on their own. Frisk’s equipment is awful compared to the other 7 humans, Frisk’s stick is the weakest weapon in the entire game, you can interpret this as the fact that Frisk is the least violent of the humans. Their level of violence is also 1, further suggesting Frisk is non-violent, further more the stick is actually helpful for mercy more than any other weapon, the weapon can be unequipped to be used as an item to spare any dog based enemy. Another cool thing is that Frisk’s bandage has a hidden ability, it allows you to guarantee you can flee from battles on the first turn, which further supports that Frisk just wants to be a pacifist. In Deltarune characters can react to Kris doing things outside of our control, for example in an attempt to cheer up Kris, Susie notices that it got Kris smiling. The only instance of a character noticing Frisk smiling is after the True Pacifist route where sans states
Sans — you refused to hurt anyone even when you ran away, you did it with a smile.
So from the canonical instances we are shown, it seems presumably Frisk’s most canonical personality is from the true pacifist route, which further proves that Frisk’s soul represents love, being actual love, not level of violence. This is relevant, because when you look at it, Kris shows to be a non-violent person. Kris, Susie and Ralsei cannot kill anyone even if they fight, but Noelle can, this is because of their personalities, Ralsei is a pacifistic person, and while Susie is more aggressive, she doesn’t actually want to kill anyone, by contrast, Noelle doesn’t know what is going on, and is being conducted by the player to kill Darkners, but even in the Snowgrave route, you STILL can’t make Kris kill anybody, because Kris won’t let you, just because Kris is possessed doesn’t mean Kris is powerless to stop, Kris on many occasions rebels against the entity possessing them. Furthermore when Asriel absorbed Chara’s soul, he was able to resist Chara’s urge to kill everybody, which confirms even if you are less powerful than the entity controlling you, you are still able to rebel against the force. While we can control what Kris says, we can’t control how they say it, if you pick the dialogue option Kris disagrees with, he says it in a confused voice, Susie picks up on this on occasion. This matters because in the snowgrave route, the option to abort a snowgrave route is said with excitement, like Kris is trying to convince you to stop what you’re doing. When the game says your choices don’t matter, it’s literal, we control Kris, however we can’t make Kris murder, in essence our choices don’t matter, we can find a loophole and kill with Noelle’s power, but we can’t make Kris kill anything. Kris is also shown to back down from conflict, when confronted by Spamton and Susie, which is like Frisk. Frisk wearing that bandage is weird… what happened to cause this, well I think what happened is they got assaulted by humans in the past, if we were assuming Kris was Frisk, this would explain Kris’s reaction to seeing a book about humans, if we assumed Kris was Chara, this would be easily explained because Chara hates humanity, the Bandage is also explicitly stated to be used many times, which supports this notion. When you talk to Asriel at the end of the true pacifist, he asks
Asriel — Why would you ever climb a mountain like that Was it foolishness? Was it fate? Or was it… Because you…?
Asriel says Or was it… Because you…? Then trails off, in a sad face, it’s almost like Asriel is making a sudden realization because of how familiar the reasoning was to him, right after that, he talks about why Chara climbed the mountain, the very obvious implication of this is that Asriel was gonna say “Because you hated humanity?” Now their appearance, Kris and Frisk have the exact same skin colour and Hair colour, and Kris and Frisk have the same blank expression, rather than Chara smiling, and Kris do not have the pink dots on their cheeks Chara have. However, what about Kris having red eyes, how do we explain that, doesn’t that prove Kris is Chara, well, no. Chara doesn’t actually have red eyes at all, they have brown eyes, to answer that question, we have to ask another question: What colour are Frisk’s eyes. In every single official depiction of Frisk, Frisk has their eyes closed, so the answer is unknown right? No. Remember that true pacifist after genocide ending I was talking about, well, that is the one and only instance of Frisk opening their eyes. Everyone assumed that Frisk’s eyes turned red in that scene because they were being possessed by Chara, but deltarune now disproves this notion, being possessed doesn’t define your eye colour. That scene of Kris taking control of his body, shows him with red eyes, at the moment he stops the entity who is possessing him, this confirms that being possessed doesn’t control your eye colour, and by consequence; confirms that Kris’s eye colour is red, and by further consequence; confirms Frisk’s eye colour is red, which connects Kris EVEN further to Frisk! I didn’t actually expect anyone to read this, it’s just if you are curious why I believe this The TL;DR is that Kris being the Deltarune version of Frisk would support the notion that Deltarune takes a couple years after Undertale
i feel like your kinda just trying to take two different puzzles and put them together
but i kinda have a theory
what if and stay with me here
there could be 2 or more gasters/gaster peices in deltarune
More details: I posted this same theory on r/deltarune and someone in the comments pointed out to me that the Gaster Blasters resemble a turtle skull. https://undertale-science.tumblr.com/post/162379759618/gaster-blasters-irl Another thing the same person pointed out is that when they were making the official Undertale Tarot cards, there was originally going to be a Gaster card, but it was removed from the set. And do you know who they made a card of to replace him? Gerson. https://twitter.com/factundertale/status/1358847906950877185?lang=en Now these points don't necessarily prove anything, but I though it would be interesting to point out.
Also, one more thing, and this is probably the most incongruous piece of evidence, but the mystery man sprite and Gerson both have their hands in similar positions, and the white triangle bellow mystery man's head could resemble a white beard, similar to what Gerson has. Gerson also has a small black streak going through his head past his eye if you look closely. It's probably just a wrinkle or something, but it can't be his hair because his beard and eyebrows are white, so maybe its a crack, similar to what the mystery man has on his face. Again, this final comment is just a complete shot in the dark so don't take it seriously. I just think it's fun.
That actually makes a lot of sense, damn. Really good theory!
Thanks!
Still confused on why I'm the only one who mentioned unused classroom
Wait, what about the unused classroom?
Every teacher which were smart or had a science background has a classroom, Who’s to say G wouldn’t have the same? The room is also a direct exit out of the DARK world.
I hate that it kinda makes sense
Everyone is gaster
What about alphys. In Undertale alphys is a scientist but in deltarune alphys is a teacher
All I'm seeing here is that Gaster used to teach students, then had the comical chemistry oopsie and proceeded to not exist anymore.
Gerson Has Some Connections to Undyne, yet, Undyne doesn't even mention Gaster, she probably didn't even know who W.D Gaster was. Also, we find out that Gaster is nothing but nonexistent, vanished, absorbed by the void. About Alphys, in Deltarune Every Character Ages up (except sans and papyrus, maybe.), indeed, Asriel is in college and Alphys abandonded her scientist role for a new one since it was useless now, so don't really get the big deal there. Final Words: we don't have enough proof to say if Mysteryman is even a person, or is missing the right eye, indeed, his right "eye" that we see looks more like a tired eye about to close or maybe he is completely blind.
I like the idea
lol
my god… W.D. gerson…
Man I just remember the true lab that shit is horror as fuck
This is actually a pretty good theory
I see a lot of people disagree with this, and that's fine of course, but this was a really good point that had me thanking.
Thanks for putting this possibility out there. I have nothing against fannon Gaster; One of my favorite comics is Handplates, after all. But people are a bit too affected by it in my opinion. No theory is perfect until proven and all that, so it's nice to see when theories are more out of the box like this one.
maybe gaster is/was a physics teacher at the school in deltarune
I don't think I can roast you as much as the beans Gerson roasted for his coffee in the last slide.
But what about the SkeleBros connections? You forgot about them.
Gerster
This actually makes some amount of sense. Though, because everyone seems to be older in Deltarune than in Undertale, Gerson might’ve just died of old age.
i hope this is ironical
I know its off topic but I do wanna mention how I always found the dog amalgamations design more disturbing then the rest with the no face to show no emotion and the shadows between his legs being other dogs looming in darkness. Just really off putting
Am i the only one that has the weird feeling of when they join a fandom they start getting the starter pack stuff i remember the gaster thing being popular 2 years ago and it still is until now
Remember G from the wrong number?
Gerson is also an anagram of Goners!
yes sans was the janitor in undertale too
Any Oberon Smog fans around here?
Comedy gold right there
hmm. i don't think gaster is gerson per se, but i have noticed the weird amounts of connections between the two characters. it seems as if gerson replaced gaster in deltarune, as well as that one set of tarot cards. i won't rule out that they might have some type of mysterious connection
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