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Fire Panda Warrior (Xiong Fei) - How to rune him for Necro AND Raid?

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So I just fused him finally and I'd like to use him for both raids and NB10. Can you even do that with the same build or do I need to fuse and skill up a second one for raids?

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u/Kandes avatar

Dont know why everyone wants vio on him. I highly recomment not going vio!! U dont want him to take to many turns in R5 so vio is bad on your frontline tank. And in NB10 it is also better to not go vio with him because on the boss u dont want him to procc out of his revenge buff, because revenging after the boss attacks gives garantied 3 hits on the boss .

In both dungeons you can build him slow but in NB10 he should be faster as your attackspeed slower at least. Mine is 2. fastest in NB10 after colleen and he works aswell in raid. He got a complet proccen set. U just want the tank Stats, acc and res.

u/GuardianDestinyGuide avatar

As a fellow summoner who also uses Xiong Fei in both Necro and Raid I will like to share how mine is runed with you.

Originally I runed mine with Vio but when put in raids he sometimes goes berserk and just keeps on taking turns which makes the raid boss hit me more than is necessary so I had to remove Vio and runed him full broken set.

HP: +18570
ATK: +194 (not important)
DEF: +898
SPD: +59 (Just enough to be faster than my Damage Dealers)
RES: 73%
ACC: 38% (to land more debuffs)

mine is HP% HP% DEF% Build with good spd def and hp subs (slot 2,4,6 maxed slot 3 at +12 and rest at +9)

most will suggest you dont use skillups on him, I will say if your other units are tanky enough and all have 3 hit first skill that is a sound way to go and you can slap on triple revenge on him.

But I went ham and fuk it and skilled him up and maxxed his s2 and s3. s2 without skills is 5turn cd and fully skilled is 3turn cooldown, s3 unskilled is 5 turn cd and 3turn max skilled so it makes a HUGE difference but before you skill him u have to make sure it is what u want (i didnt regret mine tho cos also use him in GW and some Arena)

if you skill him up he will greatly improve in consistency in what he does and which is to debuff the crap out of the Necro and raid boss and that is VEEEERY important than just being a meat shield. he puts on Def Atk break glancing and atk speed debuff in addition to self cleansing himself and giving heal buff support.

So that is my Xiong Fei, if you have any question feel free to ask

u/MrKal245 avatar

Ignore literally everyone who suggests violent, it's bad for raids and meh for necro. In fact, the runes you put on him don't have to be anything particular at all, you can use triple 2 sets, or full broken, whatever, just get the stats you need one way or another.

To use him in both areas at maximum effectiveness can be a little tricky depending on rune quality. You want to aim for 45% acc and 70% resist, literally everything else in survivability with 130+ speed to hit the necro cap. More than that is nice, but don't sacrifice tankyness for it.

Regarding what your defenses and hp need to be at, check the R5 guides they have a decent breakdown of required stats for duo-trio-quad front lines (depending on how you're setting up your team) and aim to SURPASS that by as much as you can! Being more tanky is never bad and from my experience the "minimum required" stats will leave you with a wipe if you get unlucky with getting attack break on the boss. It WILL work, but for more reliability just get tankier.

http://imgur.com/a/BPJtU Here's a picture of my panda as reference, his only completed rune set is 1 Guard set. Everything else is broken.

u/RH-jENiK avatar

Vio rev or 3x rev is optimal for r5, works for nb10 too

u/K_rotte avatar

vio or rev, doesnt matter. both ways working.

when i used him in necro, i just built him for raid, he just require to have more spd than your dps necro, rest doesnt really matter (a bit more accuracy ofc )

its better if he can dps, but thats not the priority imho

u/Paweron avatar

vio and / or revenge would be best.

you usually dont want him on vio for raids, but it isnt that either.

i wouldnt even skillup one, he got replaced pretty quickly for me.

for nb10 i found bella, colleen, adrian +2DD a solid first team with around 2:30 and bella instead of XF made it much more consistent (my XF wasnt skilled zp, but why invest into him, if i dont need to)

for raids he is just a meatshield anyway and usually one of the first guys you kick, when you try to get more DDs into it

u/mimithewhite avatar

just make sure he has 22k hp minimum and 1.2k def minimum for raid5 but i recommend 25k hp and 1.4k def

for runes i prefer vio+anything but any set is okay for me as long as you got the stats

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When I fused my Xiong Fei, I runed him Violent/Revenge (DEF%-HP%-DEF%) and he's usable in R4/R5 and NB10.

*(R4/R5 Team - Front: Xiong Fei, Ariel, Dias | Back: Hwa, Colleen, Konamiya | R4: 2:30-3:30 Minute-Runs | R5: 3:45-5:00 Minute-Runs/Fails Sometimes | DEF/HP/RES Leads)

*(NB10 Team - Xiong Fei, Belladeon, Colleen, Hwa, Adrian | 3:30-4:30 Minute-Runes | Xiong Fei DEF Lead)

As you progress further into the game, he can be replaceable in Raids/NB10. Currently, he's not on my R4/R5 team but I still use him in Necro.

*(Current Runes for Xiong Fei: Energy/Endure/Revenge | DEF%/HP%/DEF%)

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Triple rev. 2 def% on main slots and 1 hp%

just do double or triple revenge, no need for vio.

u/YoshisaurusRex avatar

I use mine in both r5 and necro as vio guard hp def def but revenge is good too. Go with whatever u have better runes of :)

u/WhatsMyrAgeAgain1 avatar

Mine is on guard. Def/Cd/Def It's not optimal for necro without violent but for raid he can frontline incredibly easy without dieing.

u/Kegsta avatar

Violent / Whatever

Defence / CHD/ Defence
Doesn't even need to be skilled.

u/ikonspirasi avatar

vio rev, with def def hp and spd min +50 works like a charm for me

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u/AmbiguousYes avatar

6k per hit first skill? I have my panda on hp cd def and I call bs.

Most probably on top of def break:S i run mine speed def hp so I don't know if I call bs but panda is good

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u/MrKal245 avatar

There's basically no possible way for a fire panda to do 6k per hit on his first skill, even with defense break using hp/cd/def.

Mostly because his first skill scales entirely off of attack and gets no bonus from hp or def. 6k per hit is feasible with Wind Panda, but definitely not fire.

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Are u sure it wasnt a wind panda?

u/MrKal245 avatar

Mathematically improbable.

Damage = Total Attack * Multiplier * (100% + skill Up + crit damage)

Damage = X * 130% * (100% + 25% + 199%)

Damage = X * 130% * 324%

Lets plug in 1500 for total attack, which is about +900.

Damage = 1500 * 130% * 324%

Gets you 6318 damage without factoring in ANY defense. 1500 attack isn't that unreasonable, but with no attack % rune and his shit base attack I don't believe he somehow got 1k+ attack in substats alone while also getting 199% CD on violent. When you consider 199% CD would require about 10 max rolls on 6 star runes the amount of attack subs required is just not going to happen unless he's rocking some ultra high quality G3 grinded runes. Even then, his crit rate would be dog shit.

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Yep, lies