By conservative estimates, there are probably tens of millions of people who want to tell Representative Matt Gaetz to shut the hell up. That group likely includes the many women he insulted over the weekend when he said those who support abortion rights are too fat and ugly to get pregnant; the other women he insulted when he said people who care about Roe v. Wade being overturned are “over-educated, under-loved millennials who sadly return from protests to a lonely microwave dinner with their cats, and no Bumble matches”; people who don’t want to hear about an overgrown frat boy supposedly answering phone calls from Donald Trump while “in the throes of passion”; people who think it’s suspectto request a pardon that covers “from the beginning of time up until today, for any and all things,” as a Trump White House attorney described; people who think January 6 was not, in fact, something to be “proud” of; and people who believe it’s inappropriate to allegedly have sex with a minor and pay for her to travel across state lines. Another person who wants to tell the Florida congressman to shut it? Former Mike Pence chief of staff Marc Short. And on Monday night, he did!

During an appearance on CNN, Short was asked by host Erin Burnett to respond to Gaetz’s claim at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit that “Mike Pence will never be president” because he’s “not a leader.” And if you were expecting D.C. niceties, or for the guy to not bring up the federal investigation into the U.S. representative for various alleged sex crimes, you expected wrong!

“I don’t know if Mike Pence will run for president in 2024, but I don’t think Matt Gaetz will have an impact on that,” Short told Burnett. “In fact, I’d be surprised if he was still voting. It’s more likely he’ll be in prison for child sex trafficking by 2024. And I’m actually surprised that Florida law enforcement still allows him to speak to teenage conferences like that. So I’m not too worried about what Matt Gaetz thinks.”

A spokesperson for Gaetz responded to Short’s remarks by telling The Hill “Marc can repeat debunked conspiracies on CNN, but nobody can deny that dunking on Pence was Gaetz’s best applause line of an epic speech.”