Elsie Frost unsolved murder (1965) - and subsequent suppression of information

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I found something in the British Medical Journal. Apparently the coroners inquest said there was 'prima facie' evidence against Ian Bernard Spencer. The Judges disagreed and turned him loose.

http://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC1800172&blobtype=pdf

Also another National Archive link on the case stating this one is closed for 85 years.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10879094

I noticed that the two closed files name two individuals, a John Spencer and an Ian Bernard Spencer.

And apparently the murder is gone over in this book:

Foul Deeds and Suspicious Deaths in Wakefield

http://www.amazon.com/Foul-Deeds-Suspicious-Deaths-Wakefield/dp/1903425077

And a couple of old news clips (no sound):

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/ITN/1965/10/10/FS101065003/?s=elsie%20frost

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/ITN/1965/10/17/FS171065001/?s=elsie%20frost

An article about the case published yesterday: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3044281/Why-police-want-hide-secrets-little-Elsie-s-savage-unsolved-murder-95-years-really-linked-Yorkshire-Ripper.html

I don't find it unlikely that Peter Sutcliffe might have been the killer. He was 19 at the time, and though he mostly went after prostitutes he did try to kill a 14 year old girl in 1974 who was out on a walk. His modus operandi was blows to the head with a hammer or boulder often followed by knife stabbing, and while he did sexually assault some victims rape wasn't a part of his modus operandi. Elsie was 14 and out for a walk when she got stabbed to death but there was no signs of rape - she wasn't hit in the head, but the modus operandi of serial killers often developed over time, so to me it isn't unlikely that perhaps Elsie was the first victim of Peter Sutcliffe.

Isn't it normal to seal the records of criminal investigations for quite a long time? The Jack the Ripper files were famously closed for 100 years, for instance, as are census records and a whole bunch of other things. Or am I missing something here?

Edit: thanks for downvoting an honest question though, whoever you are. You're the reason we can't have nice things.

I have listened carefully to the radio interviews and find that there is a discrepancy between what the detective says about the fate of the clothes taken from the Elsie Frost's body and what her brother and sister took to be the sequence of events. The detective says just that the clothes were destroyed at the request of Elsie Frost's father and that a lot of clothes had been returned to him. Later the brother and sister imply that the police had asked their father what he wanted done with the clothes, but that is not what the detective says. One would like to know more about Elsie Frost's father's motives. The brother and sister say that he would not have wanted to keep an anorak with knife holes and blood on it. That is obvious but why was it given to him in the first place when in every other murder inquiry I am aware of the clothes of the victim are kept as evidence, going right back to Jack the Ripper's victims. Did he ask for the clothes so he could destroy them. We are told that he signed a note requesting that clothes still held by the police should be destroyed? If so why? Evidently he did have an alibi for the time of the murder according to the Daily Mail article. But what about the uncle, mentioned by Elsie's brother as having picked him up and taken him out of the room when news came in about the murder. These days we are well aware that statistically most murders are committed by someone who the victim knows. If I may be allowed to speculate I suggest that the sealed files contain evidence that incriminates a close family member. As noted above that is the likely reasons for sealing the files, I just differ on whose family is being protected.

This is the first I've heard of the "right to be forgotten" and as an American it seems so strange to me! You sue for libel or you run a PR campaign, you don't expect the Internet to censor itself for you. Interesting in light of some recent discussions about public shaming.

I have just created my first submission to this board about this case, also after listening to iPM!

I am sure it was said on the programme that the time the records are to be sealed for was extended after the family requested to see them and this was commented on in the interview as being unusual.

It is also odd that here is very little on the internet regarding this case. All I can find detailing the crime is an extract from a book, normally there would be more for such an unusual and brutal crime.

What's the likely motive in this case? Why would someone hurt/kill a 14 yr old? A deranged psychopath or serial killer or something else?

Eddie Mair tweeted a fb link: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155344272425459&pnref=story

seems to be responses to the broadcast op supplied

i have a weird feeling the State knows something.

So is the mystery the death or the case itself?

Another elite pedo ring cover up. In any "sane" country the people would have staged a revolution years ago - such is the extent of the ideological control in the West that we shrug it off and accept. accept. accept 100% of all the bullshit that they feed us.