Donna Zuckerberg: ‘Social media has elevated misogyny to new levels of violence’ | Hysterical feminist does the usual "words are violence" nonsense, whines about the fact that men are criticising feminism on social media.

They idealise a model that erases much of the social progress that has been made in the last 2,000 year.

We want fathers to have the right to see their kids after a divorce not to raid Londinium for plunder and enslave it’s inhabitants.

We don’t want to erase social progress we want more social progress.

You know what really bothers me about articles like this?

They haven't offered a single shred of evidence or proof of anything even remotely resembling "misogyny".

I'm guessing this is another "the worst aspects of TRP and incels define the entire MRM" hate-piece?

The ancient world was deeply misogynistic – it was a time when there was no word for rape

Umm, is that even true? That seems like a feminist myth. Surely there was a word for "rape" in some ancient cultures.

Donna Zuckerberg didn’t expect to spend two years trawling through the corner of the internet defined as “the manosphere”, unpicking the grim alliance between pick-up artists, men’s rights activists, incels (involuntarily celibate men), the far right and the most ardent Make America Great Again advocates.

Think I found one of the possible brigaders LOL yes, I didn't expect someone like her to be trawling through subreddits to try and smear a group of people she clearly knew fuck all about in an extremely cowardly way. This actually explains a lot of the recent activity lately, I would not be surprised if a lot of the crap going on was in response to what journalists and feminist public figures are spamming about us in the media.

To anyone who is genuinely concerned about the way feminists are misrepresenting their views. This is standard practice, I think this is in response to them losing ( Or simply not winning outright depending on how you look at it ), they are desperate now, especially after the midterms.

As the OP's pointed out she and other feminists are absolutely desperate to criminalise criticism of feminism and they're lying that it's 'misogyny' in order to get support. If anyone has any doubts, notice how she raises 'anti-feminism' as her main concern and does not provide any actual cases of misogyny that has her so terrified. She's pissed off that these straight white men on the internet are daring to confront her and the sisterhood and that's all there is to it.

We all really are nothing but a bunch of unwashed peasants to these people, they hate us.

While there is animosity between some factions of the manosphere – Zuckerberg shows us, for instance, the petty conflicts online between PUAs and the men’s human rights movement – the common denominator, she says, remains “the use of ancient literature to represent an aspirational ideal of a world they wish they inhabited. They idealise a model that erases much of the social progress that has been made in the last 2,000 years.”

This paragraph for example, this is an absolute lie, they never ever provide links to the subreddits or sites to these places they're talking about, because if they did their narrative would fall apart immediately.

This article is complete nonsense.

The only thing of value to take away here is the media seems completely, wilfully blind to the possibility of misandry.

Now we know why Zuck is such a Cuck.

In the summer of 2015, she noticed an unprecedented level of traffic towards a piece entitled “Why is stoicism having a cultural moment?” and went down a rabbit hole to determine why. The results stunned her: men – or rather, misogynists – were using an armchair enthusiasm for the classics to justify manifestos of hate against women. The results were spreading online under a pseudo-intellectual guise, twisting ancient world philosophy to buttress a contemporary hatred of feminism. And it wasn’t a one-off.

“So, there are online communities that exist under the umbrella of what we know as the Red Pill, which are men connected by common resentments against women, immigrants, people of colour,” she explains. “What I was surprised to find was the extent to which they are using ancient Greek and Roman figures and texts to prop up an ideal of white masculinity.”

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But in the case of stoicism’s sudden revival, Zuckerberg found that an active corner of Reddit was applying Hellenistic philosophy to explain the pain and hardship white western men were suffering in the 21st century. Except these men didn’t consider themselves angry – they considered themselves oppressed.

“The ancient world was deeply misogynistic – it was a time when there was no word for rape, feminism did not exist and women’s actions were determined by male relatives,” says Zuckerberg. But now the classical texts are being “distorted and stripped of context” online to lend gravitas to campaigns of misogyny and white supremacy. Not only is it toxic but, as Zuckerberg calmly outlines in her new book, Not All Dead White Men, it is deeply dangerous.

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“Classics are wrought with histories and narratives of oppression and exclusion,” says Zuckerberg. “By quoting Marcus Aurelius – as Steve Bannon is known to often do – Red Pillers perpetuate the idea that they, white men, are the intellectual authority under threat from women and people of colour.” While universities make progressive attempts to broaden the canon so students aren’t simply reading one dead white man after another, “the manosphere rebel against this. They see themselves as the guardians of western civilisation and the defenders of its cultural legacy.”

This twist is especially galling for Zuckerberg, an avowed feminist who has dedicated her career to the classics. “Anybody with an interest in the field of social justice should not ignore this trend,” she says. “These men are weaponising ancient Greece and Rome in service of their agenda and reshaping what that history means.”

Like wow. I guess that feminist education was not wasted on her.

There's a shoutout to some reddit sub in there.

A classicist with a PhD from Princeton, Zuckerberg edits the online journal Eidolon, publishing scholarly essays on the Greco-Roman world from academics and students.

I can't imagine what she's bitter about. her brother is a billionaire, and she's got a PhD in boring.

Haven't read that version, but the version on the ABC comes pretty close to conflating the MRM with the Alt Right. It's the kind of dishonesty one has come to expect from liberals and feminists.

She is a liberal like her brother.

misogyny = violence

Red pill = more violence

Complains about feminists sayin men are criticising feminism on social media

Complains about feminism on social media

I for one would REALLY like to see The Honey Badger Brigade, along with Aydin Palidin dissect Mz. Zuckerberg's academic work.

PLEASE Alison, Karen, Hannah, et al., please take this apart. u/girlwriteswhat u/typhoonblue

Words like "me too"?

Meanwhile, in the real world, #killallmen is still trending on twitter. Dear women, we don't give a shit anymore. Have fun with your cats.

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