Intel has decided to launch it's 6 core 12 thread Gulftown processor as the Core i9

Intel's upcoming flagship client processor, codenamed Gulftown will get the higher Core i9 marker. This 6-core chip will have every performance enhancing feature in the book available, including a total thread count of 12, and a 50% increase in L3 cache over Bloomfield, at 12 MB. It will retain compatibility with the existing LGA-1366 socket, and X58 chipset, and will be available in Q1 2010.

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http://www.techpowerup.com/97604/Details_o...ed_Core_i9.html

This post has been edited by stasio: Jun 25 2009, 11:14 AM

Intel may rebadge existing Wolfdale, Yorkfield, and Penryn Mobile chips into Core i3..

mean still stay using LGA775..
wow if can get 32nm will be nice..

costly le ... i7 .......

it's 3x the price of that AMD ... i sure hope i9 is not 4x the price ...

if they drop the price i might buy an i7

6 cores 12 threads!!!
Nice XD

If this news turns out to be accurate, sweet.. Will be good to know there will still be upgrade opportunities for socket 1366 users. Can probably upgrade to Core i9 by next year. If the price is not exorbitantly high, that is =p

intel core i9 wil be release next year sigh i waiting to buy new pc intel core i7 920
sigh i want to get i9 sigh i can't wait why always to make new processor

core i7 920 will be EOL soon.

Probably so. But doesn't mean it'll be obsolete. Not by a long chance :)

Whatever cores come out oso no use. I pokai liao no more money to buy PC stuff n upgrades. I think I'll just go back to using a calculator n typewriter. :lol:

imo, u can start slowly invest on i7 platform though.
since i9 will be using X58 based system, same as i7.

Intel is just being terrible and silly by introducing so many different sockets. It's just a dumb way to make more money from consumers :) I'm prepared to switch back to AMD if they come up with something good.

Right! :clap:

This post has been edited by stasio: Jun 25 2009, 12:03 PM

so should wait for i9 or just upgrade to i7 ?

Ya man. LAst time when AMD was kicking their butt, they stayed with S478 n 775 for the longest time. Now that they're king again, come out with all kinda alien sockets to rob us. :(

You can always get an i7 now and upgrade later. i9's not coming out till Q1 2010 anyway (rumoured).

if i buy i7 then i dont want upgrade i9 becouse when i got i7 then can't buy i9 becouse i7 waste
Q1 2010 what Q1 mean jan 2010 ???

it is really up to u bro. as i said earlier, both of them using X58 based system. u get i7 now, in the future, well of coz u can directly go to i9,
without changing ur system. easy as that.

actually.. why u need them.. :D

i couldnt understand ur statement.. :blush: u mean u wasting ur money if u get i7 now?
yes, Q1 2010 shuld be like Jan till March.

LOL it took me a while to understand you there.

Well anyway, you can get an i7 now, and enjoy the performance (overclock the hell out of it), then when i9 comes out (or when the price stabilises, up to you), sell your i7 and upgrade to i9.

First quarter of 2010. Means it can be anytime within the first 3 months of 2010.

ah, thanks for the addition bro :)

ohh ya i wasting money to get i7 i realy need wait i9 why i like i9 becouse can playing gaming DX11

i dont have i7 becouse i wont to buy i7 i think why i need i9 becouse i want faster pc gaming DX11 and Windows 7 64bit

actually it's the opposite .... the socket 775 is at the end of their lifetime ... they had to change as they did in socket 478 as they cannot improve anymore

me too are checking on AMD .. i'm still monitoring their newer chipset beside the FX and especially the Istanbul chip


i7 is bit too rich for my blood ... unless they lower the price from 3k to 1.5k ..

Punctuation mate, punctiation.

You can run DX11 and Windows 7 64 bit with i7 too. You'll need a next generation graphics card to run DX11 games, but in no way is it limited by the processor.

this IMC thingy will reflect the socket eh? like the old days of amd..
s754 s939 go straight to AM2 AM2+ n now AM3..

with this kind of phase..
lga775, 1156, 1366.. or maybe wait another years for final socket..

My rule of thumb for upgrading is that you want the cheapest version of the latest architecture with the most cores

actually,DX11 has nothing to do with the i7 or i9. Both of them compatible with DX11. as bro igor stated, u just need the next series of
Graphic card to run games in DX11.

True that.
Same here :)
Any extra performance held by the more expensive versions can easily be obtained by slight overclocking.

That's the thing, they regained a good market share and all these hanky panky tends to start again. There's absolutely no need for 2 different sockets and I'm sure they can make i5 and i7/i9 use the same socket :(

no need to bother about the DX11.. even now in vista alot more games still using DX9..

What I meant is there's no need to have 2 different sockets for i5, i7/i9. They can just have everything under the same socket so people don't have to change boards when they change chips. Previously we have different motherboard chipset manufacturers but nowadays, they are all Intel (P45, X48, X58, etc). This means for every board that is sold, Intel makes from the darn board and then again from the chip.

Bravo Intel, good money making strategy :D Thanks for robbing us when AMD is still down.

:x all intel know is...make some expensive proc and sell then when failed marketing introduce another socket,i never heard of downgrading socket lol. aint i7 should be faster then i5 rite?now i3 come out again :x .

haha...they already lost alot of customer which is included me.

no.. coz still amd can't fight their performance..

That's true to a certain extent. But it might be that the 1366 socket chipsets and processor chips are too expensive to mass produce as their main-stream product line.

Thus to keep the Core i5 prices at a reasonable level, they have to make them on a different (cheaper) architecture altogether.

We'll have to see how the Core i5 chips are priced to really see what Intel is trying to do here. If they're relatively expensive too (like the i7 is) then we know Intel is really making fun of us.

This post has been edited by igor87: Jun 25 2009, 12:45 PM

yes...amd still lack behind intel performance....atleast wont like intel daylight robbery rite :stars:

that's why don't buy when we don't need them..
for me current cpu processing power is more than enough..
more to invest is gpu.. if like gaming.. :)

Intel is making a lot of money. The R&D is expensive but once it's in the market, they make good money from the chips as they have a high profit margin. I don't think mass production of i5 versus i7 would have a huge difference in cost. In fact, all CPU's of the same architecture and family would have the same amount of transistors, die, etc. It's just a method how Intel locks the chip for a certain speed, multiplier, cache, etc and sell it as separate products. This is the same reason why Intel will have one single diagram to represent all Core i7 CPU family or C2D family, etc.

Core i7 architecture:
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lol right now, core i7 runs extremely hot with 8 threads =/... couldnt imagine a core i9 =_=, even a true would be at it's knee's lol.. overclocking it @ extremely high speed would be almost impossible D:

haha if tats true.....then who says socket 1366 is gonna phase out??

might as welll get a i7 soon...if the news confirm the i9 also compatible with x58 chipset and in 1366.

lol its not 1366 that is going to phase out.. its the models 920,940 and 950.. intel is creating a stairs price to performance wise...

low budget : core i5 (lowest model)
normal budget: core i5 (higher model)
high budget: core i7
extra high budget : core i9

it'll be something like that, pretty gay isnt it, since core i7 920 (the lowest one) performs extremely well.. and they are taking it out =(.. forcing people to buy the high end i7 (965 and 975) or just stick with lynnfield..

This post has been edited by reiben05: Jun 25 2009, 02:20 PM

That 8 thread thingy is hot because we enabled HT :) In fact, we don't need HT most of the time so it depends what you want to do.

There were rumours about 1366 phasing out soon but looks like it won't so that is good news for people already with i7 (like myself) :lol:

965 and 975 would get their price drop sooner or later. By that time, I believe most people can afford for one :) Of course by then, the 6 core chip might already be on sale.

price drop it'll probably be like i7 965 = RM2000 and i7 RM975 = RM 2500.. x_x.. i9 = RM4000.. i5 = RM 800-1500

I think the idea is to have i3 replacing Celeron range then we'll have i5 in the C2D/C2Q range. Intel chips are always expensive anyway, lol.

i understand i can wait nvidia wil graphics card support DX11 games if use i7 i worry will lag games
if get i9 wont lag fot games DX11 becouse 6 core / 12 thread speed faster so wont lag for game play dx11

ya right graphics card nvidia wil out DX11 caming soon

lol alot pc games dx9 and dx10 hehe why i need dx11 becouse windows 7 wil caming soon games for next year so i can't buy new pc again that waste

Hmm, so can I call this a SexCore processor?

I really don't understand why people like to use the term "invest" and "hedging" in PC hardware.

Both terms are from the finance sector and heck even professionals have problems understanding the terms properly.

Buying a depreciating @ 33% or more per year hardware isn't an investment at all and hedging for not buying another hardware in the future with a 150% outlay is no hedging at all.

Well, unless buying an expensive processor can generate more profit / income. Then it that case, it is an investment.

This post has been edited by kianweic: Jun 25 2009, 05:18 PM

ppl 'invest' in order to make the company producing better cpu.. hehe..

Sounds more like donations to me.....hehehe

whoaaa... 6 cores 12 threads... overpowered stuff @.@

wow looks like i7 going 2 be outdated soon when it comes 2 latest :lol: IT tech killzz lulz :sweat:

i9 wat will be the numbers?

1020? huhu.

i7 will still be popular......for me or those looking for upgrade.

No i7 32nm yet? i5 also got 32nm already.

really meh? I didn't see any i5 at shop yet.. (by the time i post this )

lolx.. good point... wheres i7 32nm >.<"!? why make it at 45nm.. no wonder run 60-80C on load with prime

Sorry a bit misleading, I mean I saw the chart that i5 will have 32nm end of this year, but somehow i7 still remains 45nm until next year.

Based on the picture, i9 will still be using 1366 socket? that means current i7 user dont need to bother changing mobos? hmmm :hmm: when i9 comes out, for sure i'll target i7 for my next upgrade, but that would in a distant future...OR, moving to AMD system haha, but still AMD also have lots of different sockets, might be more than intel i think...

lucky my pc usage doesnt require lots of processing power, gaming wise, GPU is still the most critical part for upgrades...

at least my wolfdale still categorized as "i" proc hahaha....i3 that is.... :lol:

but AMD made life easier bcuz am3 can work on am2+

even if its hot , its a 32m hence heat should be less :P

Six-core 32nm Westmere Full Review @ HKEPC

http://global.hkepc.com/3846/page/5#view
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WOW!!... superb!

Ianho u kidding only isit ? u always bring us new loot ekekekeke! :P

I think that its a good idea if the sockets were same for i5,i7and i9.I understand that changing to a newer socket is inevitable but whats with two different sockets?1155 and 1366?

i'll wait till a end of Q4 2010 if upgrade to intel, pokai de if to upgrade again. mean time current specs still serves us pretty good

Intel plans to bring the 6-core CPU codenamed Gulftown based on 32-nm Westmere architecture to the desktop platform soon. The use of 32-nm process has allowed this 6-core CPU to have lesser power consumption and temperature than the currently available 4 core Bloomfield CPU based on 45-nm process. Gulftown registers 127.8/159.9 W on Idle/Load Power meter while Bloomfield scores 131.4/163.4W on the same Idle/Load state. Gulftown has idle/load temperatures of 38.4/52.2 C while Bloomfield has 39.2/55.4 C.


>>>Core i9 Engineering Sample Test<<<


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Core i7 gets a PCMark Vantage score of 5241 while Core i9 gets 5297. This is the limitation of the PCMark Vantage as it is only made to scale for 4 cores 8 threads.

we really need something to utilize those cores..
i'm more to know about the heat n power consumption if full throttle..

four core also most cant push to max...this 6 pulak...haiz...
is this the last architecture size?or its gonna get even more thinner...

i heard a rumour intel gonna make till 24nm

wow getting smaller and smaller ! :)

12 cores?? Oho... Can play games and encode video @ background and play BR movies..

But our eyes only 2 cores ler.

it 6 cores 12 threads ler..

overkilled for six core, but at least it shows that lga1366 wont be phased out so soon... tht's a good news for current i7 user who own 1366 board. :) :thumbs:

Thread already exist and HeaSiX link posted earlier
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1075021

Mod,merge this thread,thanks.

This post has been edited by stasio: Aug 14 2009, 09:33 AM

lulz...i knew i7 will not be the sole high end processor...thks goodness i did not upgrade fast haha

they are not dying.. the problem is.. are we able to buy it haha :)

yalo, by the time, lga1366 only for rich people, all people will playing with lga1156 as its the mainstream, so sure 1366 components wil be expensive... mayb they will phase out the 1366 i7 and focus i9 on 1366 socket... :(

do we really need a multiple core proc?

new proc...
intel very fast lo...

very nice intel core i9 i dont want intel core i7 i waiting to get intel core i9
so i need wait to next year right

need at least dual core to live now. :lol:
single core beh tahan, lol.

waaa....nice stuff :3

4 core also too redundant12 t for us home user now. 6 core with 12 thread will be famous for workstation level and use.

ouch u hurt mah feelinz bro! :lol:

i'd say, depending on the user lar... some ppl p3 p4 also chut till now wad.

like opteron 6 core eh?

now can saving money to wait for 6 core coming.. :hehe:

we need newer pc mark!...
haha... cant wait to see i9 pcmark score

That is why we need to run folding :hehe:

If we use lots of CPU intensive applications then obviously this would help but for normal users like us, i7 is more than enough to be honest :lol:

i5 not yer "hot" in our market, now i9 pulak. lulz :D

wow haha bro i think core2 also enuf no? :sweat:

btw wats the socket type? 1366?

This post has been edited by Terence573: Aug 14 2009, 06:32 PM

Yeah, for normal gaming 2 cores are enough but some games takes advantage of 4 cores. If you're using photoshop, compression, video rendering/editing softwares, etc then 4 cores would also help :) i9 runs on LGA1366.

wow...at first is i7....then now i9??intel try to drill a big hole on our pocket??
wondering how core i7 user feel about this...=)

for those keen to own one, pls take a look at your task manager, under CPU Usage column, check for the average % lol

I am i7 920 user. I feel like saving up for i9. folding@home needs the powah. :D

Somebody mention price arround USD 1500 :blush:

after the i7 I am wondering whether the i7 can outperform Cell processor in terms of FLOPS when it comes to folding?

If folding@home (or any software) is designed to work optimally for the cell processor, it will have greater FLOPS than i7 CPU that we have now. In fact, the largest portion of FLOPS in f@h is currently contributed by Sony PS3. However some program core are not available in non-CPU environment, hence keeping the importance of CPU in distributed computing.