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undoubtably someone would have to be offended today.
I think the reason Ben Elton's name keeps appearing is that a lot of people see him as something of a hypocrite given what his act was in the 80's and early 90's compared to the Ben Elton of the last 20 or 25 years.
I think Victor Lewis-Smith illustrated this viewpoint best when he said (in an episode of TV Offal):-
"[Ben Elton] spent the whole of the 1980's spitting vitriol at Mrs Thatcher, whilst simultaneously enjoying the tax relief she only offered to the very rich"
I preferred the word-play Benny used in his chart hit "In our Garden of Love"
Here it is on Youtube (the full Black & White 1960's BBC performance, not the shorter version that was later re-record with colour footage for ITV) :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxAHYqHf5Is
I remember him appearing frequently on TV verbally crucifying Benny Hill, and whipping up a movement to get him removed from TV, so, for me, the name check is justified.
I'd be a bit surprised if that was the case. Elton has always said how much he enjoyed the Two Ronnies (hence Ronnie Corbett turning up in his big chair in a later Elton series) and they were hardly 'PC' (Gawn maaadddd) were they. I think by the late 80's BH had just run out of ideas and seemed completely out of date, really.
Much of his material was vulgar, yes, but no, it never was and never will be offensive. He was around at the 'right' time and was prominent enough to be made something of a scapegoat for a right-on comedically-political agenda, sadly.
I love many of that late-70s wave of comedians too, though [many of whom have since recanted or at least regretted their historic vitriol for many from the older wave of comics).
I think your memory is getting a bit inventive there, I was around at the time too.
IIRC he said something about him, tangentially on Wogan and this seems to have been worked up into 'a movement'
Lots of punters had had enough of Benny and possibly never liked him at all and others don't want to admit that, it's all Ben Elton's fault, one comedian.
Benny got lazy, tired and rehashed a lot of old work near the end, even those who worked with him remarked on it, June Whitfield comes to mind, so he must have been rehashing some early material.
Apparently he was offered deals to go back and do Specials, maybe they thought he'd tighten up his act, less is more.
Isn't it Stewart Lee who has a pop at Micheal Mcintyre it's not light hearted either and yet the blokes still about and earning.
The Stewart Lee thing is very funny, how he takes time to bring the story about, although I thought it was a pop at Lee Mack not McIntyre ? Could be wrong. Still it focussed on jobbing comedians dislike of those who steal ideas /material .
Ben who?
Tastes change and humour changes. The saucy but harmless innuendo was replaced by the angry humour of people like Ben Elton, which I didn't find funny at all, and has now been replaced by much more sexually explicit themes. Wonder if Donald McGill is turning in his grave and wondering how they can away with what they do without being prosecuted like he was.
Give me Benny Hill's sauciness over today's "humour" any day.
Benny's facial expressions and delivery were perfect !
I think the problem was he lost the plot and focussed on "Hill's Angels" showing as much as they could get away in every sketch. Should have put the comedy first and less of the leering at legs and cleavages for the sake of it. The older shows are better written.
It would appear to be more than a tangential reference on Wogan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ZQrpbBpsE
Luckily not everyone is offended easily.
It wouldn't get on the main channels but would be popular.
Your not allowed to like all that stuff now though.
What really strikes me about Elton in that video is what a complete phony he was, not least his mockney accent. I suppose one saving grace is he now has the reputation he deserves. There are very few comedians (I obviously use the word in its loosest sense) who are held in such contempt as Elton, especially by other comedians.
Completely agree. With both.
The comedy now can be so sterile.
It's the nanny state. Media, PC.