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Beethoven: Symphonies 1-9
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Audio CD, Box set, March 11, 2016
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Track Listings
Disc: 1
1 | Symphony No. 1 in C, Op. 21: I: Adagio molto-Allegro con brio |
2 | Symphony No. 1 in C, Op. 21: II: Andante cantabile con moto |
3 | Symphony No. 1 in C, Op. 21: III: Menuetto: Allegro molto e vivace |
4 | Symphony No. 1 in C, Op. 21: IV: Adagio-Allegro molto e vivace |
5 | Symphony No. 6 in F, Op. 68 'Pastoral': I: Allegro ma non troppo |
6 | Symphony No. 6 in F, Op. 68 'Pastoral': II: Andante molto moto |
7 | Symphony No. 6 in F, Op. 68 'Pastoral': III: Allegro |
8 | Symphony No. 6 in F, Op. 68 'Pastoral': IV: Allegro |
9 | Symphony No. 6 in F, Op. 68 'Pastoral': V: Allegreto |
Disc: 2
1 | Symphony No. 2 in D, Op. 36: I: Adagio molto-Allegro con brio |
2 | Symphony No. 2 in D, Op. 36: II: Larghetto - Roger Norrington/London Classical Player |
3 | Symphony No. 2 in D, Op. 36: III: Scherzo (Allegro) |
4 | Symphony No. 2 in D, Op. 36: IV: Alegro molto |
5 | Symphony No.8 in F, Op. 93: I: Allegro vivace e con brio |
6 | Symphony No.8 in F, Op. 93: II: Allegretto scherzando |
7 | Symphony No.8 in F, Op. 93: III: Tempo di Menuetto |
8 | Symphony No.8 in F, Op. 93: IV: Allegro vivace |
Disc: 3
1 | Overture: The Creatures of Promethus, Op.43 |
2 | Symphony No. 3 in E flat, Op. 55 'Erioca': I: Allegro con brio |
3 | Symphony No. 3 in E flat, Op. 55 'Erioca': II: Marcia funebre. Adagio assai |
4 | Symphony No. 3 in E flat, Op. 55 'Erioca': III: Scherzo Allegro vivace |
5 | Symphony No. 3 in E flat, Op. 55 'Erioca': IV: Finale: Allegro molto-Poco andante-Presto |
Disc: 4
1 | Symphony No. 4 in B flat, Op. 60: I: Adagio-Allegro vivace |
2 | Symphony No. 4 in B flat, Op. 60: II: Adagio |
3 | Symphony No. 4 in B flat, Op. 60: III: Allegro vivave-Trio: Un poco meno Allegro |
4 | Symphony No. 4 in B flat, Op. 60: IV: Allegro ma non troppo |
5 | Symphony No. 5 in c, Op. 67: I: Allegro con brio |
6 | Symphony No. 5 in c, Op. 67: II: Andante con moto |
7 | Symphony No. 5 in c, Op. 67: III: Allegro |
8 | Symphony No. 5 in c, Op. 67: IV: Allegro-Presto |
Disc: 5
1 | Overture to Collin's tragedy 'Coriolan', Op.62 |
2 | Overture to Goethe's tragedy 'Egmont', Op. 84 |
3 | Symphony No. 7 in A, Op. 92: I: Poco sostenuto-Vivace |
4 | Symphony No. 7 in A, Op. 92: II: Allegretto |
5 | Symphony No. 7 in A, Op. 92: III Presto-Assai meno presto |
6 | Symphony No. 7 in A, Op. 92: IV: Allegro con brio |
Disc: 6
1 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125: I: Allegro ma non troppo,un poco maestoso - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
2 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125: II: Molto vivace-Presto-Molto vivace-Presto - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
3 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125 - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
4 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125 - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
5 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125: III: Adagio molto e cantabile-Tempo I-Andante moderato-Adagio - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
6 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125: IV: Presto-Allegro ma non troppo-Tempo I-Vivace-Tempo I-Adagio cant... - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
7 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125:-Presto-Recitative-Allegro assai - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
8 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125:-Allegro assai vivace. alla marcia - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
9 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125:-Andante maestoso-Adagio ma non troppo, ma divoto - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
10 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125:-Allegro energico, sempre ben marcato - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
11 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op. 125:-Allegro ma non tanto-Poco adagio-Tempo I-Poco adagio - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
12 | Symphony No. 9 in d, Op.125:-Poco allegro-stringendo il tempo, sempre piu allegro-Prestissimo-Mae... - Schultz Choir Of London/Yvonne Kenny/Sarah Walker/Patrick Power/Petteri Salomaa |
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It's hard to listen to zillions of recordings of the same music without becoming jaded. It's a problem that every classical music critic faces, and so it's understandable that there is always a tendency to welcome a new version of some standard repertoire with open arms just because it sounds different--even if the difference is musically dubious at best. Add to this general problem a healthy dose of provincial nationalism, plus a cozy relationship with both the performers and their record labels, and the result is a recipe that explains the success of Roger Norrington's Beethoven in the English musical press. And now that you've been warned, you can recognize it as the musically empty experience that it is--a novelty whose charm has worn off, and nothing more. For real Beethoven stick with George Szell on Sony--or any number of other conductors and recordings. --David Hurwitz
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- Is Discontinued By Manufacturer : No
- Package Dimensions : 5.8 x 5.1 x 2.1 inches; 1 Pounds
- Manufacturer : Angel Records
- Date First Available : October 1, 2006
- Label : Angel Records
- ASIN : B000002RRB
- Number of discs : 6
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The 1977 cycle is recorded in something called "Ambisurround." This is a matter of some controversy in audiophile circles, as it is an attempt to create a synthetic surround stage in a 16bit/44khz CD recording. It has been said that it is best decoded by stereo receivers with Dolby Digital decoding capability. I can say that, from my perspective, this is a bit of a tempest in a teapot. I listen primary over my Sony MDR-1000x headphones, and I don't have any problems with this when played in stereo.
Anyway, Karajan was somewhat notorious for re-recording material to take advantage of new technology (and to garner more sales). There are those who say that the readings are identical, which I disagree with. Inarguably, there are sonic differences. Let me highlight a few key areas of the cycle to compare and contrast.
I find Symphony 5 2nd Movement to be a good test for a disc. It has a sort of brass crescendo that can obscure the countervailing strings underneath. The 1977 set has a resonant, echoing brass that is still reasonably well balanced against the strings. I love how the drums are miked - there is a ringing, tympanic presence to them that really adds urgency to the music (the 7th is sublime). "Resonance" is the word I would use to describe the whole set, really. There is a feeling of echo here - not distortion mind you, but a kind of concert hall feel. The 1985 set is absent this - instruments seem to be closer miked, and so there is a very "studio" feel to it. The brass is cleaner, but also obscures the strings a bit more. The 1963 cycle, being the oldest, has the most hiss, with a bit of sibilance on the strings. This makes them easy to pick out against the brass, but the brass is a bit less involving and "moving." The second movement of the 9th is another great showcase for the virtues of the 1977 set. The tempo is fast (nearly but not quite at Gardiner levels) but the sound is just sublime. The tympani is absolutely rocking, and is perfectly balanced against those divine BPO strings. The overall sonic lushness really lends itself to dreamier symphonies like the 6th, which is absolutely sublime here.
With respect to tempo, the 1977 set as a rule serves as a middle ground between 1963 and 1985. Despite its reputation, 1985 is the fastest of the three sets. Symphony 5 Movement 2 for instance, is 10:05 in 1963, 9:33 in 1977, and 9:21 in 1985. Karajan clearly decided to speed things up as the years progressed (his Beethoven was always on the fast side for its time - listen to Bernstein or Klemperer if you really want to hear a slow, plodding Beethoven).
Basically, the 1985 set is perhaps the best sonically over headphones. The level of detail is just more more present, which makes sense given the digital recording technology. Ocaasionally, it has a crunchy "digital" sound that is offputting. 1977, by comparison, was recorded over basically the best analog equipment there ever was. It is smooth, plush, and enveloping. This is the set to get if you want to play it over good stereo speakers in my opinion (I tend to play it over my Bose Soundtouch 20) - the echoing "concert hall" feel really lends itself to filling a room with audio. The 1963 set, which has long been considered a gold standard, is actually my least favorite of the three (which I know puts me in the minority). The interpretation is fine, if a bit slower than the other two, but sonically it just doesn't please me in the way the other two sets do.
It should be added that this box set contains a very nice rendition of 6 overtures: Coriolan, Fidelio, Prometheus, Athens, Egmont, and Leonore. The 1985 set also has these tracks minus Prometheus and Athens. The 1963 set does not contain these overtures.
All three sets are good. In fact, I would probably place all three over any of the other sets I own (Gardiner's set is a refreshing "HIP" alternative). If you're going to buy one Karajan set, I think you should consider where they are to be played, but truly you will not go wrong with any of them. Given that 1977 and 1963 are currently the only reasonably priced ones here, I think the 1977 one is the one to buy. I think it will please the most people. The 1977 set has most of the virtues of the 1963 set's interpretation, but has significantly better sound. 1985 is an estimable set by any measure, but is not quite as emotionally involving as the 1977.
This catastrophe didn't remove every German conductor's obligation to perform Beethoven as a birthright. The fatal effect was different, draining the music of ideals, making it just another commodity on the cultural supermarket shelf. We are fortunate, then, that recordings exist in modern sound of Klemperer, Karajan, Furtwangler (where the sound is rather pre-modern), Kleiber, and a handful of holdovers from the pre-war era who could feel Beethoven in their bones and "think" the music as the composer thought it. In the case of this bargain box set, it contains not only the nine symphonies from 1977 but also a complete set of overtures (recorded significantly earlier than the symphonies). Others who know better than I do affirm that the sound is the latest remastering. It is warm, rich, and faithful except that the bass is quite prominent at loud volume - it used to be said that DG boosted the bass to compensate for small European apartments and the muffling effect of curtains and furniture.
As for the interpretations, Karajan didn't depart from his settled readings, which can be heard in less good sound in the famous 1963 cycle. There are long stretches, as in Sym. 3, 5, 7, and 8, where charges of glibness don't apply - these readings are essentially the 1963 ones delivered in better sound. That's good news, since Karajan's accounts of these works are among the best on disc, especially as parts of an integral cycle. (Close comparison of his Fifth with Carlos Kleiber's acclaimed recording, also on DG, shows very little difference between them for energy, commitment, and depth of expression).
As for the two early symphonies, the passage of time has made Karajan's big-band approach seem too far away from the world of Haydn. He also indulges in too much smoothing-out, making these essentially buoyant works feel artificial and mannered, the very opposite of their true nature. I'd say much the same of his Fourth. As in the past, the Pastorale doesn't feel right to me. Any number of esteemed Beethoven conductors lack a sense of humor, but Karajan also has no feeling for the rustic simplicity that Beethoven infused the score with, much less his heartfelt gratitude and love of nature. After all these years, I still turn to Bruno Walter's account on Sony with the Columbia Sym. to hear the real thing.
Finally, the Ninth. This version has often been recommended as Karajan's best (in modern sound, at least. Collectors prize his postwar performance from war-torn Vienna on EMI). On that account I've bought it and thrown it away several times, always disappointed at Karajan's focus on surface polish and the inflexible tempos that favor momentum over expressoin. But what I used to dislike is so exaggerated in HIP-influenced Beethoven that Karajan is a throbbing Romantic by comparison. Still, grievances persist: his sense that the Adagio should flow seamlessly is far from what this profound music wants to say. The finale and parts of the first movement, however, are full of strength and power. The recorded sound, at least on my system, is a bit dull and distant compared with the best in this set. The solo singing is as fine as one could wish, with the baritone, Jose van Dam, miked very closely for his great invocation. As in the 1963 Ninth, there is microphone shatter when the chorus sings at forte and fortissimo, and their words are a muffled blur. I prefer the earlier Ninth or a very close rival, Ferenc Fricsay's from the same era. also on DG with the Berliners.
The Karajan era is now so far behind us that younger listeners will wonder why anyone fusses over niggling differences between his three Beethoven cycles. Those differences didn't seem minute at the time, but they are fading away. The deeper meaning of Beethoven may be fading away with them.
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La confezione è arrivata in ottime condizioni e rispettando la tempistica. Unica nota negativa è la mancanza di note esplicative all’interno del libretto.
I'm no expert on who is what in this ratified atmosphere but have owned a Herbert von Karajan version of Holst 'Planet Suite' for a while.So naturally, a Karajan work would be my first choice.
This recording goes back to 1977 pre digital when Karajan had been going for some time. And for me, this is the finest rendition of Beethoven I've ever heard. What's more the audio quality is staggering, I have a feeling DG have gone through a painful restoration process the sort of thing done on a different genre of music altogether with The Beatles 'Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' .Even so whatever was done has worked.
As it stands if you like Beethoven and want a fantastic way to obtain some of his finest work then look no further than this.
And if my 93 yr old father enjoys it who has been into his Beethoven since 1947, then it'll be pretty much good enough for anyone.