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How did Taylor Sheridan go from writing movies like Sicario, Hell or High Water, and Wind River, to writing some of the worst TV ever put to screen?

I think they should put him in prison until he writes another good film.

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u/unclelunchable avatar

Those movies went through a thousand hands before they got to screen. Studio notes, director notes, probably uncredited rewrites, on set changes. He’s now famously outspokenly against working with others, has even said on record he doesn’t want to work in a writer’s room. He’s working faster, with less input from others, and achieved a level of clout that has less oversight on his output since he’s appealing to the masses.

u/Fragrance_Boomer avatar

Sicario is too parapolitically literate to have been the result of a normie Hollywood writing committee. If anything the plot was watered down from what Sheridan started off with. No re-write committee is going to insert a plot about CIA involvement in Drug Cartels.

Yellowstone is just Republican-slop. Sheridan knows how to manipulate that audience, not that it's an achievement, and profit handily from it.

u/Arnoldbocklinfanacc avatar

Parapolitical

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u/PasolinisDoor avatar

It’s bad on purpose. It’s smarmy dialogue television for right wingers, the characters “own” the invading liberals with facts, logic, grit, etc. it’s objectively bad but it’s like porn for my in laws.

I don’t think he cares because it’s made him far more money than the movies did.

Peter Segal of NPR renown has a terrific cautionary tale about how quality original content in Hollywood gets completely bastardized by outside interference. He wrote a serious screenplay about a Romeo/Juliet-type relationship during the Cuban revolution. A Hollywood agency bought the rights and turned the script into "Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights."

u/seafaringsailor avatar

That's obviously not the case here

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u/Beautiful-Coconut-96 avatar

Eventually you run out of piss and vinegar and all that’s left is just going through the motions. 

My guess is Sicario probably was not all that fictional and he had good source material to pull from. 

HOHW is pretty formulaic but just done very well. You could actually see how if they didn’t put as much thought into it, it would probably be something like a long Yellowstone episode. Same with Wind River - not reinventing the wheel, just a thoughtfully told story adapted to modern times. 

He gets a pass from me, I’d rather him write serialized slop than take himself too seriously and start getting all preachy with big Hollywood blockbusters. He made his artistic statement and now he makes money. I respect it. 

u/walter_____pinkman avatar

Is Sicario actually good? Bc I remember seeing ads for it and getting the impression that it was just some basic tacticool action flick.

u/Extra_Mustard_ avatar

Hell or high water sucked I remember nick Mullen raving about it and just being baffled because everything just seemed so cliche. Oh man such epic writing with Jeff bridges mumbling gruffly to his Indian sidekick and there's a crazy brother who does crime and the other brother doesn't want to do the crime any more and that scene with the what dont ya want waitress... Wow, a masterpiece isn't this the guy that did sons of anarchy THE CROW FLIES STRAIGHT A PERFECT LINE ON THE DEVIL'S BACK UNTIL YA DIE

u/belksearch avatar

Hell or High Water was kind of disappointed. And I think the writing for Sicario is overrated. Wind River is pretty good though.

u/ThinAbrocoma8210 avatar

yeah the look how texan everyone is bullshit is pretty bad but it’s a great bank job movie, and ben foster is excellent

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All of those movies also sucked