Unfairly maligned albums | ResetEra

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Albums that were panned by critics or spurned by fanbases... yet given the chance, these albums offer as much if not more to appreciate as their more traditionally praised counterparts.

Three of my favorite examples:

Radiohead - Amnesiac

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This first one I can understand why someone wouldn't like it. Especially coming off of Ok Computer and Kid A, Amnesiac is clunky, blunt, and abrasive. I saw an interview with Thom Yorke where he said it just sounds like someone shaking their car keys which isn't terribly far off.

Yet I think this is my favorite Radiohead album behind only OK Computer. The sound is so incredibly distinctive and mysterious in a non-traditional way. It contains maybe their best song ever in Pyramid Song, but beyond that the clashing, jangling production effects throughout this create a shocking atmosphere that I have never heard duplicated.

What's more - the b-sides for Amnesiac are absolutely god tier. Thom Yorke is maybe my favorite musician, but if I have one criticism for him it's that he sucks at arranging a track list. Amnesiac era tracks have all the material to be Radiohead's best album (and consequently my favorite album of all time) if only songs like Hunting Bears and Morning Bell had been removed in favor of songs like Amazing Sounds of Orgy, Cuttooth, and Transatlantic Drawl.


Tool - 10,000 Days

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When this album released many saw it as inferior to Lateralus and Ænima... and I just don't get it. Those albums are both really good but 10k is greatness. This is easily the peak for Tool in terms of tone - guitar, vocals, percussion, everything. Not to mention it has Tool's best song ever - Wings for Marie 1 & 2.

The only problem I have with this album is that it lacks a good closer. I like ambient music - Viginti Tres isn't very good. They needed a good closer heavy on the atmosphere to put the cap on this one.


Coldplay - Mylo Xyloto

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This album came right after Viva la Vida, which is probably the high point for Coldplay in terms of achieving both chart success in combination with critical recognition. The follow up had fairly high expectations as Coldplay was proving their interest in stretching their artistic capabilities, but Mylo Xyloto was not what people had in mind. If anything this album doubles down on the pop. It is colorful, glittering, and has this pseudo-world influence where it sounds like they have aspirations of uniting the planet - with a result that is completely artificial.

That sounds damning, and I guess in a way it is, but it resulted in a sound that I genuinely love (probably not in the way they intended). The combined vibrancy and fakeness of it in a strange way reminds me of modern PC Music adjacent artists, but with the infused stadium production that only a band like Coldplay would be able to provide. I will grant that the lead single ("Paradise") is maybe the worst song on the album which got things off on the wrong foot for critical reception. But with very minor blunders aside, this is probably my favorite Coldplay album... along with X&Y, which I also could have easily highlighted in this group.




Curious to hear yours, Era!
 
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Iron Maiden's Virtual XI is good, actually, though I can't explain why I believe this.
 

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The Love Movement is the fifth studio album by American hip hop group A Tribe Called Quest, and their last album released during group member Phife Dawg's lifetime. Released on September 29, 1998, by Jive Records, it is a concept album, exploring the lyrical theme of love. Musically, it is a...

I love this album, despite it mostly being radio jams. Find my way lives rent free in my brain even today. But surprisingly, apparently people fucking hate this album.
 

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Tool - 10,000 Days

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When this album released many saw it as inferior to Lateralus and Ænima... and I just don't get it. Those albums are both really good but 10k is greatness. This is easily the peak for Tool in terms of tone - guitar, vocals, percussion, everything. Not to mention it has Tool's best song ever - Wings for Marie 1 & 2.

The only problem I have with this album is that it lacks a good closer. I like ambient music - Viginti Tres isn't very good. They needed a good closer heavy on the atmosphere to put the cap on this one.

Yup, and to be fair, the same happens with Fear Inoculum. Both are fantastic albums on par with Lateralus to me. It's just that Tool songs seem to take quite a lot of time to worm themselves into your brain. And thus you tend to not exactly be enthralled on the first listen.

I mean, when you know every songs by heart including all the drum fills and time signatures changes, when a brand new album arrives, the songs in it feel weird because you don't know them properly yet.
 

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Chain Gang of Love by The Raveonettes is the fucking best and I still remember how upset people were that it was more poppy sounding than Whip it On. Ya, it's in a major key, dummies!
 

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The Love Movement

The Love Movement is the fifth studio album by American hip hop group A Tribe Called Quest, and their last album released during group member Phife Dawg's lifetime. Released on September 29, 1998, by Jive Records, it is a concept album, exploring the lyrical theme of love. Musically, it is a...

I love this album, despite it mostly being radio jams. Find my way lives rent free in my brain even today. But surprisingly, apparently people fucking hate this album.


HA! I was just having a debate about post Midnight Marauder's Tribe. And yeah, I still hate this in my head☹️ But I think its because they updated their sound and it was less jazz than expected, I will give this another listen. The previously released tribe b sides at the end though at fucking top tier and equal to anything from their seminal albums.
 
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The MMLP for me. A lot of people have said Em is overrated due to this album's success. But there is some great tracks on here. B-Please part 2 is one of Dre's best beats from that era. Remember me was dope as well.
 

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I'll die on the hill that Revolution Radio is a good album. Not top-tier Green Day but genuinely solid.
 

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Load and Reload by Metallica are pretty good albums. They're a little hit or miss, but I think if you took the best songs from both albums and condensed them into one, it would be a killer album.
 

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The MMLP for me. A lot of people have said Em is overrated due to this album's success. But there is some great tracks on here. B-Please part 2 is one of Dre's best beats from that era. Remember me was dope as well.
MMLP was nominated for Album of the Year and sold millions of records. How is it unfairly maligned? (I agree with you that there are a lot of great tracks.)

Pinkerton is a famous one for being criticized upon release but has had a change in view retrospectively.

Pink Floyd's Animals is seen as their lesser album during the Dark Side - The Wall era, but I like it much more than The Wall.
 

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I love Yes - Drama but people say it's not a real Yes album because of no Jon Anderson. But it's their best album.
 

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Clearly a product of its time but I vastly prefer to listen to Artpop today than the much more popular Born this Way which aged terribly I think.
 
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It's not my favorite of theirs, but it is definitely more universally beloved than HTTT or TKOL. wouldn't call it maligned at all.
I think people have warmed up to it over the years, but the chorus of "Kid B-Sides" comments when it released was resounding. Which is odd to me since it sounds nothing like Kid A at all.

I love Yes - Drama but people say it's not a real Yes album because of no Jon Anderson. But it's their best album.
I haven't heard this, I'll need to give it a try. Though I'll admit that Yes without Jon is a really tough sell.
 

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inb4 St. Anger.

I never knew 10,000 days nor Amnesiac were maligned, they're both great albums that contain some at least some top 10 songs from each bands catalogue.

For me, the answer is Deftones' Gore (and to a lesser extent, Ohms):

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I *love* these albums. I can definitely understand that the production in Gore feels a bit off at first (particularly Chino's vocals), but I really dig it. And Ohms is honestly their most balanced album and my personal favorite of theirs Yes, maybe it doesn't have a mega smash hit like some of their earlier work, but as a whole package the album is pretty much perfect. Yet people on their subreddit seem to be super down on both, and particularly Gore seems to be get meme levels of derision.
 
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Amputechture by The Mars Volta was one of my favorite albums in high school and college and I still think it's one of their best albums. It was often dismissed as being self-indulgent and having poorly written songs but I'd argue it has really strong song writing, it's just not presented Ina standard style with really smart uses of motifs throughout the record in particular.

The Glowing Man by Swans is another. It wasn't a maligned album per se but I do think it's a lot better than most. I'd put it top 3 alongside "The Seer" and "The Great Annihilator" quite honestly and is one of my top albums of the 2010s.

It's not my favorite of theirs, but it is definitely more universally beloved than HTTT or TKOL. wouldn't call it maligned at all.

Agreed. I'd say every Radiohead album with the exception of TKOL is pretty beloved.
 
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Amputechture by The Mars Volta was one of my favorite albums in high school and college and I still think it's one of their best albums. It was often dismissed as being self-indulgent and having poorly written songs but I'd argue it has really strong song writing, it's just not presented Ina standard style with really smart uses of motifs throughout the record in particular.
Yes! I love Amputechture. Probably my 2nd favorite behind Frances. Amp just has so many utterly brilliant stretches of music.
 

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I remember Amnesiac being really well received when it came out, while Kid A was the one people were iffy about. But thats a vague recollection of magazine reviews so that is probably far off.

Nothing Coldplay has done was unfairly maligned. Only appropriately or even under maligned. And anyone who tells you I enjoyed their first album is a goddamn liar.
 

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the killers' "sam's town" was trashed when it came out, but i honestly think it's one of the best rock albums of that decade, and i vastly prefer it to hot fuss. some critics have come around on it too.
 
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I remember Amnesiac being really well received when it came out, while Kid A was the one people were iffy about. But thats a vague recollection of magazine reviews so that is probably far off.
This is the opposite of what I remember… but then again it was 24 years ago :P


Come to think of it HTTT might have been the better album to highlight. It's not as good as Amnesiac but I really love it. HTTT is better than The Bends and In Rainbows for sure imo.
 

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This is the opposite of what I remember… but then again it was 24 years ago :P

Nah, you're right. I am on this line.

Kid A was clearly divisive with the fanbase (I remember an article with Courtney Love panning it hard on why have a fantastic guitarist you won't let play guitar, lol) but it was a critical darling which obviously showed the way rock music was going.

Amnesiac was like 'Ho hum, b-sides of what we were arguing about a year earlier' from both fans and a bunch of critics
 

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and lot of of their post 2000 stuff is underrated too. unfortunately the last album (the "sequel" to Melon Collie and Machina) was pretty mid though
 

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I think I'm the only one on planet earth who likes Green Day's Father of All Motherfuckers.

It's the best GD album since 21CB imo. But nobody will ever be on board with that. I guess the really gross album art didn't help.

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So maybe it's not that unfairly maligned bc it sure is ugly.