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Touching from a Distance: Ian Curtis and Joy Division Taschenbuch – 4. Oktober 2007
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- Seitenzahl der Print-Ausgabe212 Seiten
- SpracheEnglisch
- HerausgeberFaber & Faber, London
- Erscheinungstermin4. Oktober 2007
- Abmessungen12.7 x 1.91 x 20.32 cm
- ISBN-100571239560
- ISBN-13978-0571239566
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In 1995, she published a biography, titled Touching From a Distance, which dealt with the private life she shared with her late husband. Since 1994 she has been working on a film project based on Curtis, titled Control.
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- Herausgeber : Faber & Faber, London (4. Oktober 2007)
- Sprache : Englisch
- Taschenbuch : 212 Seiten
- ISBN-10 : 0571239560
- ISBN-13 : 978-0571239566
- Abmessungen : 12.7 x 1.91 x 20.32 cm
- Amazon Bestseller-Rang: Nr. 1,341,105 in Bücher (Siehe Top 100 in Bücher)
- Nr. 863 in Biografien von Popmusikern
- Nr. 1,521 in Biografien von Rockmusikern
- Nr. 3,582 in Rock (Bücher)
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Positiv finde ich zudem die Bilder, die im Mittelteil enthalten sind und die Lyrics am Ende des Buches. Was mich eher weniger interessiert hat, waren die Auftrittdaten, die ausführlich aufgeführt werden - meiner Meinung nach taten sie oftmals nichts zur Sache, aber dies ist nur meine subjektive Wahrnehmung.
I find it very courageous that she had the guts to go public with Ian’s medical problems, their personal couple issues… I wished I knew more but I’m grateful nevertheless.
Ich kannte vorher weder Joy Division, noch Ian Curtis. Ich fand es einfach interessant,
daß er Epileptiker war und sich "einfach so" (trotz Karriere, Familie, Haus und Hof)
umgebracht hat. Ich meine, ihm standen alle Türen offen?! (Trotz vielleicht unglücklicher Ehe.)
Ich finde schon, daß man ihn durch dieses Buch etwas näher kennenlernt (und auch seine Frau).
Allerdings ist das Buch recht umgangssprachlich geschrieben und ich hatte öfter Probleme,
Aussagen, Meinungen und Bewertungen richtig zu verstehen, obwohl mein Englisch (bilde ich mir
jedenfalls ein) soo schlecht nicht ist.
Ich fand das Buch trotzdem lesenswert.
Das Buch bestätigt und erweitert den Film "Control". Natürlich, von seiner Frau geschrieben, gibt es mind. noch eine Darstellungsmöglichkeit mehr, die seiner Freundin. Zudem wird das Leben mit einer bipolaren Persönlichkeit mit klaren Selbstmordabsichten sehr eindrucksvoll und immernoch hilflos beschrieben.
Das Buch "Touching from a Distance" ,von Ians Witwe Deborah verfasst, erlaubt einen guten Einblick in das traurige Leben des Joy Division Frontmanns Ian Kevin Curtis. Die Vorlage zum Film "Control" verschafft viele Einblicke und persönliche Eindrücke seiner Bandkollegen, Kontakte, Familie und Freunde.
Legenden sterben jung, doch Ian Curtis bleibt unsterblich. Wunderbares Buch, manche Träne blieb nicht in einem Auge.
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When I started work at the Courts in 1980 there was this major cloud of worry - all the Court staff who knew Debbie were so unbelievably worried about her. I don't know if she ever realised how intensely they cared about her. They were both only 23yrs old when Ian died, and Debbie had Natalie as a little 1yr old toddler. She used to come in to the Court *so* many times with Natalie in the buggy (somewhere I've got photos of races on office chairs at a Christmas party - innocent days!), and even then she struck me as an amazing young woman - she was always so cheerful and literally lit up the place. I was in awe how she was coping. I laughed in the book because she talks about the Chief Clerk and calls him 'Mr Pape' even at the time of writing the book as a mature woman - he was a wonderful old stick, bless him, and no-one called him by his first name; only my future husband ever got to call him 'Mike', when he started as the new Chief Clerk on Mr Pape's retirement! But even Mr Pape's face lit up when Debbie visited. She was like the daughter he never had.
It was literally weeks since her husband had died when I first met her and she'd been dealing with horrors before that event I knew nothing about. She documents in the book the struggles with Ian's epilepsy/depression and a medical culture that had no proper idea how to deal with either. On top of that was having a small toddler, no money, and the pressures of 'another woman' already beginning from the music business culture. I've read the comments about Annik with high amusement. When you walk into - or become caught up in - someone else's marriage there are only two options: (1) you bow out, even at hurt to yourself, when you realise a family life is being destroyed, or (2) if you really believe you are made for each other, you pick up the baton and stand in the shoes of 'The Other Woman' and accept/own the devastation you/the other party are about to cause - because that is what you both are doing. Annik knew Ian was married. What isn't an option is to continue down the route of Option 2, but try to convince everyone 'nothing is going on' and actually you 'are the wronged person because the wife is an emotional crazy, mad, person with an overactive imagination'. Thus blaming her for the devastation while portraying yourself in Doe-like innocence. The black and white photos of Ian/Annik, their own words, and the 'Yoko Ono' reference from the band make Annik's innocence claims unreal. To not have the courage to be what you are and so to walk through the pain caused, but try instead to blame 'an hysterical wife with an overactive imagination' is the cruelest, most vilest, and most cowardly option anyone can take. I dread to think what Debbie must have been going through at that time, but as a watcher-from-the-wings I saw the intense worry for her wellbeing on her friends at Macclesfield Court where she would likely have discussed the detail/been advised on the filing of the Divorce proceedings as well as later working through the emotional devastation of Ian's death.
As an 18yr old I admired Debbie *hugely* from afar, even with those events she was dealing with she just ploughed on in life with numb positivity. She was an incredibly strong young person. Natalie seems to have grown up into an amazing young woman, and in the words of this book I can still hear the Debbie who so impressed me at the Courts. It's very well written. This book isn't really about Joy Division, it's about Ian Curtis - part of that story is about how Joy Division came about; but if you want to understand Ian Curtis the real person and not the cardboard-cut-out on a pedestal it's an amazing book. But it's also about 'Mrs Curtis' - and if you want to read the book from the perspective of a young woman coping with the critical illness of her husband and what happens when the jaws of the music industry start to close around you/your family you won't be disappointed. From that perspective this is an incredibly brave and jaw-dropping book.
Although if she remembers me at all it would only be as 'that new girl' at the Courts, I still vibrantly remember her as being an incredible young lady ... she seems to have grown into an amazing woman. And Natalie is still her amazing daughter even though she wouldn't fit in the buggy any more! This is a brilliant book I can highly recommend.
And if Debbie or Natalie ever read this review I wish you *all the love in the world* and hope you know how much those people cared about you back then (*the Macc CC stories went on, with Les/John et al at our wedding years later when I married the new Chief Clerk! Doh, you'd need wine for that story!). The Girls have Done-Good, bless you both :o) ... xxx
Regarding this book, Deb Curtis did a brilliant job in documenting her relationship with Ian and in addressing all the issues faced by Ian, herself and the band. I also think Deb is a wonderful writer and knowing the weight of her words on those fans of Ian and Joy Division she seems to have provided a very balanced judgment. Perhaps the many years that went by prior to writing this book gave Deb a better perspective. Yes, she experienced much pain & sorrow in the relationship but I can also clearly tell from reading this book she has & will always love Ian.
The film Control was greatly influenced from Deb's book. I think the persona of Ian's character in the film was fairly accurate based on Deb's book. The book really didn't detract or change my feelings and appreciation for Ian's work. My impression from Deb's book was that Ian never really dealt with his personal, medical & mental health issues. I got the impression (perhaps over-analyzing Ian) that Ian was not socially well developed and was so distracted from dealing with himself due to the drugs at an early age and the music business at an older age that he never had a chance to learn to deal with all his issues. When one faces so many overwhelming problems at one time and has never really understood how to deal with them, ending one's life can seem like an option (not a recommended one!)
Deb's writing was extremely insightful. I really learned a lot. It must have been a fairly cathartic experience for Deb, but she seemed very well prepared for writing it.
I highly recommend this book.
It would seem that every single band member and part of the clique that surrounded Joy Division, had no idea of the torture that Ian was going through within his mind. I find that astonishing. They must have all been obsessed with their own personal agendas and the goal that was driving them on. Not one of them could see the depression that Curtis was going through? Sure, it says that he ‘kept it all in’, as men are want to do. He probably thought that sharing his feelings was a sign of weakness and the fact that he was telling his bandmates that his wife was the cause of his grief, would have generated a bit of ‘time out’ to help him try and sort things out if they were ‘real friends’, which they obviously weren’t. Basically, just work colleagues with similar musical tastes but no real interest in each other.
Only Ian knows why he decided to call time on his life. You can speculate about whether that was his intension all along or whether it was the maelstrom that his life had become that gave him no option. It seemed he’d backed himself into a corner and his insecurities stopped him from making the right decisions. It was probably much easier to end it all.
There are parallels with Cynthia Lennon’s book about life with John and how he similarly manipulated his doting wife. Deborah didn’t deserve to be treated like Ian had started to treat her. They had agreed to have a child, or maybe Ian decided to give Deborah what she wanted. Any father knows that when your child is born, that’s when your life changes. It seems like he resisted that change, which is a shame because it could have actually helped him become stronger. At least Natalie was too young to understand anything.
I’m sure Ian’s parents must have been devastated that their young son felt the way he did and the finality that he sought. I’m sure that Deborah felt some guilt that people may think that she had done nothing to help him. Whilst reading the book, there were times when I felt like jumping in and confronting him and screaming at him...’for goodness sake Ian!...’. Two young people who wouldn’t share their feelings/problems with neither each other or anyone else. A recipe for disappointment and sadness.
I’m grateful that Ian wrote some poignant lyrics and sang his songs so memorably during Joy Division’s short tenure in the Post Punk era. Would there have been another album after ‘Closer’? Who knows, perhaps it’s best that there wasn’t.