152 reviews
How about a reivew from someone who watched it?
Right, well it seems odd to me to negatively review a show because a) you're complaining about not being in the demographic it's geared toward, b) because this show isn't rewriting the wheel when it comes to television or c) because the actors are people in their early to mid 20's portraying college students. So first I would say, if you don't want to watch a show about college students dramas--then skip this one. This is what this show is about. There's a lot of sex and nudity, so thank God the actors aren't barely 18. Also, this is common practice and most of the actors are the same age as the Euphoria cast and some are younger. And yeah the main guy isn't super attractive to some, but he's actually not meant to be (watch the show and this is pointed out in the first or second ep). He looks sinister like he's supposed to. But he does have a great body just fyi.
Essentially this show is about how a young woman gets into a toxic relationship. Her personality, looks, home life, and sudden tragedy are all the perfect storm for this guy to swoop in and get her. It's a tense, dark show--it's not romantic. But it's entertaining.
There are side characters who have their own interesting dramas. Everyone is a good actor, the editing is great, and the story has kept me interested.
I like shows like this-- I am the target audience and I don't believe in hating on something just because I don't get it. This show is done well and I don't think the reviews here are accurately portraying that. If you want to compare it to other shows, go ahead, but I'm not sure what the point of that is. Someone compared it to 'You' and it isn't 'You', so they hate it? It's a different show! It's not gonna win awards, but that's fine! It's entertaining and feels disturbingly realistic at times. I've watched 4 eps and I binged them, so I could see how it could feel slow if you waited every week for a new one, but now that I'm 4-5 eps in, it has a lot going on and 1 a week will be enough. If not for you, wait til they're all out and then binge it. Or don't!
Bottom line: it's a toxic college drama with some elements I haven't seen before, and some I have. Also it's based on a book so there's direction. So yeah, definitely not a 2/3 star worthy show as some folks are saying. Watch it if you're into shows like this, I really think it has a lot going for it.
Cheers!
Essentially this show is about how a young woman gets into a toxic relationship. Her personality, looks, home life, and sudden tragedy are all the perfect storm for this guy to swoop in and get her. It's a tense, dark show--it's not romantic. But it's entertaining.
There are side characters who have their own interesting dramas. Everyone is a good actor, the editing is great, and the story has kept me interested.
I like shows like this-- I am the target audience and I don't believe in hating on something just because I don't get it. This show is done well and I don't think the reviews here are accurately portraying that. If you want to compare it to other shows, go ahead, but I'm not sure what the point of that is. Someone compared it to 'You' and it isn't 'You', so they hate it? It's a different show! It's not gonna win awards, but that's fine! It's entertaining and feels disturbingly realistic at times. I've watched 4 eps and I binged them, so I could see how it could feel slow if you waited every week for a new one, but now that I'm 4-5 eps in, it has a lot going on and 1 a week will be enough. If not for you, wait til they're all out and then binge it. Or don't!
Bottom line: it's a toxic college drama with some elements I haven't seen before, and some I have. Also it's based on a book so there's direction. So yeah, definitely not a 2/3 star worthy show as some folks are saying. Watch it if you're into shows like this, I really think it has a lot going for it.
Cheers!
- nikkigassner
- Sep 18, 2022
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I hate it...but I also love it
7.1/10
If you don't want to rip your hair out and scream into your tv about college drama and relationships this show is not for you. Its hard for me to put words to paper about this show because while it was entertaining and a good watch pretty much every character is unlikable. Let alone the 2 main characters who might be 2 of the most unlikeable characters I've seen in a tv show. But I think it works?
This show does a very good job of portraying realistic college experiences and relationships. It feels like each character could be a person you may have known while you were away at school. This also may make this show hit home for many people as it follows the progression of an extremely toxic relationship and a manipulative, gas lighting narcissist.
Now lets talk about the countless sex scenes, a lot of them felt a bit forced and awkward but my biggest problem is that literally not a single one of them had foreplay. We just doing this dry now?
Lastly the music they used for this show was very nostalgic for me and I'm sure it will be for a lot of other 90's kids. It was always fun to subconsciously just start singing along as some classics started playing in the background. All in all I had fun watching this show each week. Its not going to win any Emmy's but that doesn't mean you should skip it.
If you don't want to rip your hair out and scream into your tv about college drama and relationships this show is not for you. Its hard for me to put words to paper about this show because while it was entertaining and a good watch pretty much every character is unlikable. Let alone the 2 main characters who might be 2 of the most unlikeable characters I've seen in a tv show. But I think it works?
This show does a very good job of portraying realistic college experiences and relationships. It feels like each character could be a person you may have known while you were away at school. This also may make this show hit home for many people as it follows the progression of an extremely toxic relationship and a manipulative, gas lighting narcissist.
Now lets talk about the countless sex scenes, a lot of them felt a bit forced and awkward but my biggest problem is that literally not a single one of them had foreplay. We just doing this dry now?
Lastly the music they used for this show was very nostalgic for me and I'm sure it will be for a lot of other 90's kids. It was always fun to subconsciously just start singing along as some classics started playing in the background. All in all I had fun watching this show each week. Its not going to win any Emmy's but that doesn't mean you should skip it.
- paulalbrecht
- Oct 25, 2022
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Most toxic show ever, can't wait for season 2.
Accurate Representation of a Charming Narcissist
If anyone has ever gotten involved with one of these charming, manipulative, and narcissistic guys at a young age, this show will be so relatable to you in every way. A very accurate depiction of what I went through with someone around the age of 19 and it brought back all of the feels. The show isn't amazing, and it's a bit slow at times, but it's interesting overall. A wonderful show for late teens/young adults to watch in order to learn the warning signs of these toxic "relationships" and how people can affect you for years or even a lifetime. A bad person with an immense amount of charm is dangerous.
- Carpy-96811
- Sep 23, 2022
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SO GROSS
I can't wrap my head around how disgusting Stephen is... the most unlikeable character in the history of tv shows... it's actually portrayed really well how damaged, self-centered, narcissistic he really is. Sad to see it on screen how gullible women can be when it comes to gaining the validation of a prick like him, acting like his presence is such an honor and so unattainable. I honestly have to vomit everytime he appears. Only a few episodes in and will continue to watch, it's definitely worth a run if you want to remind yourself to be self conscious in life and avoid this toxicity and self harm through engaging with such an unconscious, helpless, 'wounded by mommy but refusing to work on myself...so will dump my hurt into prescious women' kind of idiot.
- noemi-jankovics
- Mar 13, 2023
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I am in my 40s and can relate to this story!
I do not agree with the comment stating this show targets a specific demographic. I have dated in my 20s, 30s, & 40s. The toxicity of Steven and extreme gaslighting is far too familiar, regardless of the age of men. It is interesting to watch from a third person perspective and see it from the very beginning. The signs are always there, but new and fun creates those rose-colored glasses. I feel this show makes me realize how women should never dilute themselves for anyone, and never again allow a man's emotional issues affect you. The leading man in this show has zero emotional intelligence. He is a complete tool, and there are quite a few of those out there.
- TheFirstAmendment
- Sep 28, 2022
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The show is decent, leaving this review because...
I have not left a review in some time but wanted to here because felt it was worthy. Went into this series knowing very little, and much to my surprise i really enjoyed the first episode, my attention did not wavier. I like the feel of this. It's not entirely comfortable or at ease as some comments have suggested and that's literally because guess what...stuff is going to go down, so it succeeds in that without a doubt. These characters are not going to be entirely "normal" they have issues.
I don't know any of these actors so a quick google showed me that the male lead is 26yo, his casting to me atleast seems good, same with the others.
What appealed to me is the timeline and maturity of the story it's self. The older you get, hindsight is a great thing - you know that one person who destroyed your soul although swear it was true love. You know that lover who was not healthy for you...but would/could you go back for that fleeting feeling? The one that got away?
I see all that in this series and it's kinda cool, maybe if your living this age now the feels won't get you and it's written off as boring or people wrongly cast but my perspective - this more so about the perfect and imperfect of the world around us and how choices or wrong doing shape us into maturity. Don't forget the baggage that comes with those memories too.
I'm 100% going to finish the season and hopefully it keeps going the same direction as the Ep1.
I don't know any of these actors so a quick google showed me that the male lead is 26yo, his casting to me atleast seems good, same with the others.
What appealed to me is the timeline and maturity of the story it's self. The older you get, hindsight is a great thing - you know that one person who destroyed your soul although swear it was true love. You know that lover who was not healthy for you...but would/could you go back for that fleeting feeling? The one that got away?
I see all that in this series and it's kinda cool, maybe if your living this age now the feels won't get you and it's written off as boring or people wrongly cast but my perspective - this more so about the perfect and imperfect of the world around us and how choices or wrong doing shape us into maturity. Don't forget the baggage that comes with those memories too.
I'm 100% going to finish the season and hopefully it keeps going the same direction as the Ep1.
Really Good
First and foremost, this is not the type of thing I would normally watch. With this in mind, I was expecting a one and done type of venture. However, Grace Van Patten is not just a pretty face, rather, she is both beautiful and can act too which is a great combination. And frankly, Jackson White impressed me as well. I never wanted to punch someone in the face harder in my life. One cannot get a reaction out of me like that unless they are as convincing as he was.
Next, this is clearly underrated as I write this review [6.6]. I am guessing many of the scores come from those who did not finish the series and/or never gave it the time to allow the character development to play out. This series requires some investment, so if you are someone who seeks immediate gratification, you will probably bail early and hand it a low rating. But if you are willing to give it the time it deserves, you will not be disappointed. As one learns who the characters really are, you will be able to make certain predictions that come true, but also miss things you should have seen coming.
Kudos to the writers. That last episode was effing great!
Very much looking forward to Season 2.
Next, this is clearly underrated as I write this review [6.6]. I am guessing many of the scores come from those who did not finish the series and/or never gave it the time to allow the character development to play out. This series requires some investment, so if you are someone who seeks immediate gratification, you will probably bail early and hand it a low rating. But if you are willing to give it the time it deserves, you will not be disappointed. As one learns who the characters really are, you will be able to make certain predictions that come true, but also miss things you should have seen coming.
Kudos to the writers. That last episode was effing great!
Very much looking forward to Season 2.
- Astaroth22
- Nov 9, 2022
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Good start but I don't know...
I just finished watching the first episode and so far so good. I think Lucy's character is great and the actress portays it well. However, I don't think Stephens character is that well played. His character is a little weird and not in the mysterious way. I don't think he or Lucy has no chemistry whatsoever and I don't think the actor who plays Stephen is that great looking himself. There's just something about him that I don't like. I wish he was more mysterious. The loss of one of the room-mates does make it a better story line and since its the first episode, I'm going to give it a go. I'm hoping it goes get better but I guess we'll have to see.
- MARBLELEMON
- Sep 6, 2022
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Soft porn slash teenage drama slash absolute nonsense
What is up with all the great reviews? Have we watched the same thing?
This show is an absolute car crash. ALL the characters are insufferable, the actors can't really act, the storyline(s) are so predictable and have been done a million times before (much better too) and there's just an absurd amount of gratuitous sex scenes that add NOTHING to the plot.
Also what is up with portraying young adults as being interested in one thing and one thing only (that thing being sex)? Sure they'll explore their sexuality in college, but can't they have other personality traits? Is that too much to ask for?
I have no patience for this buffoonery.
This show is an absolute car crash. ALL the characters are insufferable, the actors can't really act, the storyline(s) are so predictable and have been done a million times before (much better too) and there's just an absurd amount of gratuitous sex scenes that add NOTHING to the plot.
Also what is up with portraying young adults as being interested in one thing and one thing only (that thing being sex)? Sure they'll explore their sexuality in college, but can't they have other personality traits? Is that too much to ask for?
I have no patience for this buffoonery.
- Bad_Penguin
- Dec 27, 2022
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Love this but I can see how this is not for everyone
I was hooked at episode 1 and absolutely love this series. I think the male lead is exactly who he is supposed to be, and is great. The obsession that comes from a toxic relationship is real and can last for years. If you have not been in a toxic relationship, you are lucky, but this is maybe not for you - I imagine you can't relate with the female leads at all. I can, and I am so happy to see a show where the girl can't and won't change the guy...you know like in real life. I have not read the books but I will after the series so I am not sure how closely it follows the written storyline. Can't wait for Ep 5.
- caglea-59487
- Sep 17, 2022
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Won't watch season two
In the beginning I was intrigued, but as I kept watching I started hating both main characters.
Honestly I liked the first episode and kept watching hoping it would continue being good, but sadly it just went downhill from there.
Their whole relationship is so freaking toxic I can't stand it. It doesn't make me root for them so I'm left wondering why I'm even watching, maybe I'm rooting for them to fail? In any case it's not something I want to waste my time on. And yes, I did finish the whole season, but it was a battle and I had a bit of a break before forcing myself to watch the last episodes.
I also found the twist predictable.
As they were both insufferable by the end, I'm not going to watch season two.
Honestly I liked the first episode and kept watching hoping it would continue being good, but sadly it just went downhill from there.
Their whole relationship is so freaking toxic I can't stand it. It doesn't make me root for them so I'm left wondering why I'm even watching, maybe I'm rooting for them to fail? In any case it's not something I want to waste my time on. And yes, I did finish the whole season, but it was a battle and I had a bit of a break before forcing myself to watch the last episodes.
I also found the twist predictable.
As they were both insufferable by the end, I'm not going to watch season two.
- denise-larsson-usa
- Mar 23, 2023
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Weak writing, annoying and unwatchable
Ridiculously weak writing and the two main characters are played by unbelievably annoying actors. There is nothing to draw you in and keep you watching. It's just bad dialogue, gratuitous sex scenes and most actors that look way older than 18-21 range they should be for college. Maybe the book was better but I haven't read it yet. I assume we are supposed to be captivated by Lucy & Stephen's relationship but I really just want to know more about the other characters like Bree & Pippa. Lucy & Stephen deserve each other and don't need another minute of screen time because oddly enough I wish the show wasn't even about them, I wish they would just go away. Stephen is particularly irritating but Lucy is just as bad.
It's good - especially if you've been there
This isn't the best show I've ever watched, but it's good. If you've ever had the unfortunate luck of falling in love with a gaslighting sociopathic narcissist, this show hits home in ways that you didn't know were possible. I found myself sitting on my bed, shaking my head at both Stephen and Lucy at the end of nearly every episode. The acting is respectable, the storyline is interesting, and the soundtrack is GREAT. It's something fun to watch when you're cleaning the house or trying to multitask in some fashion - you can miss 10 minutes and not be like wtf just happened I need to rewind. I wish people would quit focusing on receding hairlines and moles on the actors and appreciate the show as a whole.
- LeighaG111
- Nov 13, 2022
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yuck
College student here and can I just say that the reviews that describe this... show as realistic concern me deeply? First off, not a single character here has ambitions, life goals or a personality, it's like their entire existences revolve around sex, sex and just sex. Both the show and few positive reviews try so hard to paint this trash fest as some compelling and nuanced work about the complexity of toxic relationships that requires extreme intellect to understand meanwhile in reality it only comes off as yet another cringey and stereotypical production. I mean, come on: female lead so obsessed with a walking red flag the point it's practically impossible to even try to see her pov, cheating left and right, an obvious incoming student/professor fling in which the girl could basically be his daughter (gross btw) and all types of trashy tropes you would find on an average fic on Wattpad in 2014. Also, I've seen quite a few refer to this as a guilty pleasure. Guilty? Sure, but where is the pleasure at? Because if watching hours of a plotless show about a group of insufferable losers hook up, we have very different definitions of entertainment.
Anyhow, watch literally anything else but this. It's not like it's exactly known or talked of anyways (and rightfully so) but with how bad it is I'm surprised it hasn't been cancelled yet.
Anyhow, watch literally anything else but this. It's not like it's exactly known or talked of anyways (and rightfully so) but with how bad it is I'm surprised it hasn't been cancelled yet.
- ameonnasama
- Sep 8, 2024
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Best bad show ever
This show is objectively horrible but I can't stop watching. It's like if Gossip Girl was poorly written with sub-par actors. And yet, I am binge watching like there is no tomorrow. I know the point is that the characters are bad people, but sometimes it becomes so unbelievable that it's hard to watch. Also depictions of toxic relationships like this are inherently problematic as they romanticize some really horrible behaviors. I am and will continue watching this show but it's honestly killing my brain cells. With that, tread carefully if you start to watch this and know that this is not peak cinema.
Better than the reviews suggest
I surprisingly really enjoyed this. Some may complain that it is slow or boring but in my opinion, it had a degree of maturity and complexity that you do not see in a lot of college dramas. The actors and situations are believable. They are all have their unlikable qualities, but also have different degrees of sympathetic qualities as well. The story follows a toxic relationship over time in college through adulthood. It is unique in depicting emotional abuse as most college shows choose to portray sexual or physical. You can see how a smart and strong individual gets sucked into the relationship that she knows is doomed for failure but just can't move on from. I hope there is a season 2.
Started off good but now the main characters are just annoying to watch
- chsamanthaa
- Oct 23, 2022
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You feel one way in the beginning, and another towards the end!! Amazing!
- cateainsworth
- Sep 7, 2022
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Not Entirely sure how I feel...yet
This series is based on a novel written by Carola Lovering. I am a huge book reviewer and usually read the books before watching a new series. I took a dive because it looked like something I would enjoy. Its not that I don't enjoy it. I do. However, my entire verdict is still out. I do like the characters and the actors. Jackson White does seem a little bit more older than his character and that could be because of his legendary Mother. Thats where it ends with his Mom though. I think he is very mature in his craft and he is definitely someone who I will look further into and continue to see his future works. Regardless of his hotness. Jackson White is someone to watch!!!
Grace Van Patten? Still very undecided. She seems a little lost in her character of Lucy. Her growth throughout the series will help me get a better read on her.
The supporting characters are not really likeable, yet. I think the most interesting is Wrigley because of his tortured soul and insecurities. Thats usually my kryptonite when I enthrall myself in a new story. I honestly believe that Pippa is a little advanced and maybe to mature for him in some ways. This character is someone that needs more nurture and more exploration.
The entire concept is about College students and their ways of making it through their studies and their personal relationships. This gives the audience a view of how they see it through their eyes and Carola's words and imagination.
I am definitely looking forward to seeing the next Chapter and finsing my own complete opinion.
Grace Van Patten? Still very undecided. She seems a little lost in her character of Lucy. Her growth throughout the series will help me get a better read on her.
The supporting characters are not really likeable, yet. I think the most interesting is Wrigley because of his tortured soul and insecurities. Thats usually my kryptonite when I enthrall myself in a new story. I honestly believe that Pippa is a little advanced and maybe to mature for him in some ways. This character is someone that needs more nurture and more exploration.
The entire concept is about College students and their ways of making it through their studies and their personal relationships. This gives the audience a view of how they see it through their eyes and Carola's words and imagination.
I am definitely looking forward to seeing the next Chapter and finsing my own complete opinion.
- ShastaHope
- Sep 10, 2022
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Good drama
Take it for what it is...a good juicy drama....it's not reality..also.. the other review stating they didn't even give the show 2 episodes before judging it and claiming it's a ripoff of another show.. not fair.
Also, seems that people forget that the college years are set in the past. If they shot those scenes with today's "politically correct" dialogue it wouldn't be believable....
Also...GUYS... Jackson White is HOTT, y'all. Idk what you're talking about....
Grace Van Patten is fantastic. I'm really loving it so far....
I can't wait to see how the chemistry develops. I see a good dark romance coming our way....
I haven't read the book, so there's that. I'm usually a book gal, but with this one, I'm fine with just watching the show....
Also, seems that people forget that the college years are set in the past. If they shot those scenes with today's "politically correct" dialogue it wouldn't be believable....
Also...GUYS... Jackson White is HOTT, y'all. Idk what you're talking about....
Grace Van Patten is fantastic. I'm really loving it so far....
I can't wait to see how the chemistry develops. I see a good dark romance coming our way....
I haven't read the book, so there's that. I'm usually a book gal, but with this one, I'm fine with just watching the show....
- Dramaqueen1991
- Sep 7, 2022
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Decent
The show story line is interesting enough to keep you watching. However, Stephen and Lucy are the most unlikeable characters. They both are annoying and full of themselves. I can barely get through a scene when it's just them two. Stephen is supposed to have charm and charisma, to be able to manipulate because of his good looks. Well, this actor is lacking in all categories. He comes off almost as a psychopath. Lucy is just annoying, who always thinks she's right and above all her "friends". The supporting characters(Bree, Pippa, Wrigley, and Stephens roommate, I forgot his name) are more interesting most of the time.
Nothing Special at All
- mlemmon-57694
- Sep 7, 2022
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It's a love/hate relationship with this show
I recently started watching the show and I could say I got invested in it as in I'm curious as to what happens next. I'll have to say that the 2 main leads, Lucy and Stephen are 2 of the most dislikeable characters I had the displeasure of recently seeing.
Lucy is so dumb and self-absorbed in her obsession with Stephen that she doesn't see nor cares what happens around herself and with her friends. And no matter how many red flags struck her in the face she keeps making those dumb choices and continues to allow some guy to treat her poorly.
Stephen is lacking so much charisma and he's straight up annoying... I want to smack him every time he's on my screen. Haven't read the books but not sure the actor is the best cast for this role ... there's nothing attractive or mysterious about him and he makes it really hard for the show to be watchable most of the times.
The main relationship lacks passion and chemistry between the 2 leads and the every 5 minutes sex scenes are quite off putting. I think the only likeable characters are the friends , especially Bree and Evans whom if I'm being honest I'd like to see more of.
The premise of the show is good but some times it's poorly executed. I'm hoping for maybe a recast for s2 for Stephen character with someone who is more fitted for this role. I have nothing against Jackson White since it's my first time seeing him in something, but this role it's definitely not for him.
This is one of those shows with which you have a love/hate relationship, so hopefully s2 will do better.
Lucy is so dumb and self-absorbed in her obsession with Stephen that she doesn't see nor cares what happens around herself and with her friends. And no matter how many red flags struck her in the face she keeps making those dumb choices and continues to allow some guy to treat her poorly.
Stephen is lacking so much charisma and he's straight up annoying... I want to smack him every time he's on my screen. Haven't read the books but not sure the actor is the best cast for this role ... there's nothing attractive or mysterious about him and he makes it really hard for the show to be watchable most of the times.
The main relationship lacks passion and chemistry between the 2 leads and the every 5 minutes sex scenes are quite off putting. I think the only likeable characters are the friends , especially Bree and Evans whom if I'm being honest I'd like to see more of.
The premise of the show is good but some times it's poorly executed. I'm hoping for maybe a recast for s2 for Stephen character with someone who is more fitted for this role. I have nothing against Jackson White since it's my first time seeing him in something, but this role it's definitely not for him.
This is one of those shows with which you have a love/hate relationship, so hopefully s2 will do better.
Normal People-ish
This show is just as exhausting as Hulu's Normal People, but the acting is very good. The male and female lead are both extremely unlikable for different reasons: He is vicious, vindictive, and gaslighting and she is vicious, vindictive, and immature. Oh wait, maybe they aren't so different : ). White is Katy Sagal's real-life son. His acting is good, but the hobbling around really contradicts his ladykiller vibe. I think that we all know men who were not the most attractive but were still great at manipulating women, so I mostly find his "presentation" believable. The female protagonist simply has a major, major case of being d!ckmatized. He's the first guy to make her come and she has fallen under his spell. She rages with jealousy, he rages with jealousy over his ex. They're perfectly sour together.
- ZillyPutty
- Oct 11, 2022
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