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A news item involving Killing of George Floyd was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 28 May 2020.

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Any time one person causes the death of another – whether intentionally or not, whether criminally or not – that's a homicide. It's a very broad category. Every murder or manslaughter (of any "degree") is a homicide, but not every homicide is a murder or manslaughter. A killing in self-defense is a homicide. Even an execution pursuant to a judicially imposed sentence of death is a homicide.
In most US jurisdictions the determination of whether or not a death is a homicide is made by a coroner or medical examiner, as a prerequisite to other legal proceedings.
The medical examiner in Floyd's case determined that his death was, indeed, a homicide – or in common American English parlance, a killing. A homicide becomes, legally, a murder or manslaughter only once someone is convicted in court.

Q5: Wasn't Floyd killed near a store called Cub Foods, not Cup Foods?

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RM, Death of George Floyd → Killing of George Floyd, Moved, 2 June 2020, Talk:Killing of George Floyd/Archive 1#Requested move 27 May 2020
RM, Killing of George Floyd → Murder of George Floyd , Procedural Close and one month moratorium, 2 June 2020, Talk:Killing of George Floyd/Archive 2#Requested move 2 June 2020
RM, Killing of George Floyd → Murder of George Floyd , Snow Close and six month moratorium, 2 July 2020, Talk:Killing of George Floyd/Archive 3#Requested move 1 July 2020

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In the beginning of the article, George Floyd is described as a black man. What is the point of including his skin colour in the very first sentence? I think "man" would suffice. Tuliodawidserafeimcabral (talk) 21:45, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Tuliodawidserafeimcabral, if you do not know why George Floyd is described as a black man in the first sentence, then I can only assume that you don't know what made the killing of him notable, and suggest you read the rest of the article. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:56, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

[1][2] O3000 (talk) 21:57, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

In the United States, racism is a very real problem, and the strained relationship between people of color and the police is an old and still relevant problem. That is the context, so mentioning the race of those involved is quite relevant. Also, the fact that the officer who knelt on his neck knew him and still treated him like a worthless animal is good to know. That context says a lot. -- Valjean (talk) 22:31, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I know the video is ugly,it´s horrific and sad that he lost his life,but this article show a different story that everyone is talking about,so if you have a time(it´s long,but by far is the best article that describes the situation)please read. https://compost-bulletin.com/2020/06/the-george-floyd-incident-how-did-it-happen/Liondragon360 (talk) 03:00, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Please don't post links to extremist blogs here. O3000 (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Because RS consider it important.Slatersteven (talk) 10:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

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