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- A1 I Got You 3:49
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- A2 Come On 3:26
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- A3 Hold On 3:30
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Joe Tansinsongwriter
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- A4 Because I Love You 2:58
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- A5 Rock 'n' Roll Contract 5:45
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- B1 Passin' Time 3:33
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- B2 Three Time Loser 3:31
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- B3 Too Hung Up on You 3:24
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- B4 Crocadillo 3:20
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- B5 No More 4:42
- Total length: 37:58
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Say No More 33 rpm, Promo
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Say No More Remastered
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Say No More Remastered
4 Reviews
1981 found Tom Evans and Joey Molland continuing the Badfinger nameplate with support from a new line-up featuring former Aviary drummer Richard Bryans, former Yes keyboardist Tony Kaye, and guitarist Glen Sherba. Signed to the Atlantic affiliated Radio Records, the band's label debut "Say No More" teamed them with producers Jack Richardson and Steve Willmack. Musically the set was surprisingly enjoyable with prime writers Evans and Molland focusing on a more up-tempo and rock oriented sound this time around. Compared to the earlier "Airways" they sounded like a real band that was ffar more energetic and committed to the comeback. It was far from the best Badfinger album you've heard, but tracks like 'Because I Live You', 'Three Time Loser' and 'No More' would have sounded at home amidst their earlier recorded glories. And here's where it gets kind of strange. If you grew up with the original Badfinger, this late inning album was professional; even enjoyable, but far from anything special. If you didn't have an extensive Badfinger background, it was quite enjoyable.
side 1)
1.) I Got You (Joey Molland) - 3:39
Originally I didn't think much of the chuck Berry-ish rocker 'I Got You', but over time it's kind of grown on me. Not a traditional Badfinger type of tune, but the song's nervous energy was refreshing. It was tapped as the album's second 45. YouTube had a nice clip of the song with a hysterical interview - the poor woman interviewing the band was simply totally clueless. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lhF_WnXFaI rating: *** stars
2.) Come On (Tom Evans) - 3:23
'Come On' found the band seemingly taking a step into AOR. With a nifty hook, it wasn't half bad. The video and audio quality are bad, but YouTube has a clip of the band performing the song for a Milwaukee television program (Shock Horror). Interestingly Bryans, Kaye, and Sherba are all gone replaced by guitarist Adam Allen, former drummer Mike Gibbins, and keyboardist Bob Jackson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_7H7KXx-w rating: *** stars
3). Hold On (Tom Evans - Joe Tansin) - 3:24
Apparently a carry-over from the earlier "Airwaves" sessions, 'Hold On' was a glistening slice of top-40 pop that came close to capturing their earlier magic. One of the best post-Peter Ham things they ever recorded. YouTube has a clip of the band lip synching the tune on the Solid Gold variety show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaE-jx65rtw rating: **** stars
4.) Because I Love You (Joey Molland) - 2:48
With a happy, bouncy melody and some nice Molland-Evans vocals, 'Because I Love You' was one of the tracks that came the closest to recapturing the old Badfinger vibe. With one of the album's most commercial sounds, you had to wonder why it wasn't tapped as a single. rating: **** stars
5.) Rock N' Roll Contract (Tom Evans) - 5:36
I guess it should have come as a surprise to see the band reach into their tragic business history for inspiration. In spire of the bouncy, rockin' melody, this autobiographical tale of misery simply didn't match the rest of side one. rating: *** stars
(side 2)
1.) Passin Time (Joey Molland) - 3:30
Easily my pick for the albun's best tune, 'Passin Time' was tuneful, rockin' and thoroughly fun with a great Molland bass line. The perfect summertime rocker, this is the one I would have released as a single. rating: **** stas.
2.) Three Time Loser (Joey Molland) - 3:30
My pick for second best tune, 'Three Time Loser' had a bouncy melody; lots of jangle, and one of the best vocals Molland's ever laid down. rating: **** stars
3.) Too Hung Up On You (Tom Evans - Joe Tansin) - 3:21
Judging by the writing credits, 'Too Hung Up On You' was another 'Airwaves' carryover. The album's only real ballad, the tune was pretty enough with one of Sherba's prettiest solos, but ultimately forgettable. rating: ** stars
4.) Crocadillo (Tom Evans - Roach) - 4:29
With jittery, new-wavish feel, 'Crocadillo' was an interesting change of pace. Not particularly impressive, but different. rating: *** stars
5.) No More (Joey Molland) - 3:21
With an ominous synthesizers dominated opening and some treated vocals, 'No More' sounded like a cross between Pink Floyd and acid-tinged Bealtes (think along the line of 'Blue Jay Way'). With some great Evans and Molland vocals, it was one of the toughest rockers they'd ever recorded, making for another album highlight. rating: **** stars
Two singles were pulled from the album:
- 1981's 'Hold On' b/w 'Passin' Time' (Radio catalog number RR-3793) # 56
- 1981's 'I Got You' b/w 'Rock and Roll Contract' (Radio catalog number RR-3815)
Accompanied by considerable promotion (I can remember seeing them on the Solid Gold television show), the parent album hit # 155.
The band apparently recorded some material for a projected follow-up album that never saw a release. And then it turned ugly with Evans and Molland having a falling out that saw the two recruit and tour with their own Badfinger line-ups.
Sadly, frustrated with on going songwriter credits and royalties, Evans committed suicide in 1983.
Gibbins died of cancer in 2005.
1.) I Got You (Joey Molland) - 3:39
Originally I didn't think much of the chuck Berry-ish rocker 'I Got You', but over time it's kind of grown on me. Not a traditional Badfinger type of tune, but the song's nervous energy was refreshing. It was tapped as the album's second 45. YouTube had a nice clip of the song with a hysterical interview - the poor woman interviewing the band was simply totally clueless. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lhF_WnXFaI rating: *** stars
2.) Come On (Tom Evans) - 3:23
'Come On' found the band seemingly taking a step into AOR. With a nifty hook, it wasn't half bad. The video and audio quality are bad, but YouTube has a clip of the band performing the song for a Milwaukee television program (Shock Horror). Interestingly Bryans, Kaye, and Sherba are all gone replaced by guitarist Adam Allen, former drummer Mike Gibbins, and keyboardist Bob Jackson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do_7H7KXx-w rating: *** stars
3). Hold On (Tom Evans - Joe Tansin) - 3:24
Apparently a carry-over from the earlier "Airwaves" sessions, 'Hold On' was a glistening slice of top-40 pop that came close to capturing their earlier magic. One of the best post-Peter Ham things they ever recorded. YouTube has a clip of the band lip synching the tune on the Solid Gold variety show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaE-jx65rtw rating: **** stars
4.) Because I Love You (Joey Molland) - 2:48
With a happy, bouncy melody and some nice Molland-Evans vocals, 'Because I Love You' was one of the tracks that came the closest to recapturing the old Badfinger vibe. With one of the album's most commercial sounds, you had to wonder why it wasn't tapped as a single. rating: **** stars
5.) Rock N' Roll Contract (Tom Evans) - 5:36
I guess it should have come as a surprise to see the band reach into their tragic business history for inspiration. In spire of the bouncy, rockin' melody, this autobiographical tale of misery simply didn't match the rest of side one. rating: *** stars
(side 2)
1.) Passin Time (Joey Molland) - 3:30
Easily my pick for the albun's best tune, 'Passin Time' was tuneful, rockin' and thoroughly fun with a great Molland bass line. The perfect summertime rocker, this is the one I would have released as a single. rating: **** stas.
2.) Three Time Loser (Joey Molland) - 3:30
My pick for second best tune, 'Three Time Loser' had a bouncy melody; lots of jangle, and one of the best vocals Molland's ever laid down. rating: **** stars
3.) Too Hung Up On You (Tom Evans - Joe Tansin) - 3:21
Judging by the writing credits, 'Too Hung Up On You' was another 'Airwaves' carryover. The album's only real ballad, the tune was pretty enough with one of Sherba's prettiest solos, but ultimately forgettable. rating: ** stars
4.) Crocadillo (Tom Evans - Roach) - 4:29
With jittery, new-wavish feel, 'Crocadillo' was an interesting change of pace. Not particularly impressive, but different. rating: *** stars
5.) No More (Joey Molland) - 3:21
With an ominous synthesizers dominated opening and some treated vocals, 'No More' sounded like a cross between Pink Floyd and acid-tinged Bealtes (think along the line of 'Blue Jay Way'). With some great Evans and Molland vocals, it was one of the toughest rockers they'd ever recorded, making for another album highlight. rating: **** stars
Two singles were pulled from the album:
- 1981's 'Hold On' b/w 'Passin' Time' (Radio catalog number RR-3793) # 56
- 1981's 'I Got You' b/w 'Rock and Roll Contract' (Radio catalog number RR-3815)
Accompanied by considerable promotion (I can remember seeing them on the Solid Gold television show), the parent album hit # 155.
The band apparently recorded some material for a projected follow-up album that never saw a release. And then it turned ugly with Evans and Molland having a falling out that saw the two recruit and tour with their own Badfinger line-ups.
Sadly, frustrated with on going songwriter credits and royalties, Evans committed suicide in 1983.
Gibbins died of cancer in 2005.
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Appropriate title: the band seems to have nothing left to say. Inoffensive, some energy, and more consistent than Airwaves, but even more lacking in personality. With two nondescript albums in a row, there was no real reason to go on. Weird, too, because they had some really good new band members (Andy Newmark of Sly & the Family Stone ca. Fresh, Tony Kaye of Yes).
Badfinger was one of the great bands of the '70's, ridiculously underrated, and blessed with abundant talent. Unfortunately, the band wasn't able to survive Pete Ham's suicide. Joey and Tom were hungry for a comeback, but things never gelled. Their studio work from the early-mid '70's (including the belated Head First) is some of the very best stuff of its time, incredibly melodic, soulful, and flawlessly performed (cf. Elton John, Big Star, and any of the solo Beatles -- not exaggerating).
Badfinger was one of the great bands of the '70's, ridiculously underrated, and blessed with abundant talent. Unfortunately, the band wasn't able to survive Pete Ham's suicide. Joey and Tom were hungry for a comeback, but things never gelled. Their studio work from the early-mid '70's (including the belated Head First) is some of the very best stuff of its time, incredibly melodic, soulful, and flawlessly performed (cf. Elton John, Big Star, and any of the solo Beatles -- not exaggerating).
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This should be one of Badfinger's best albums. And it is, but the mix is horrendous to the point that it's distracting. If this ever gets
remixed, _Say No More_ will have a great reputation.
remixed, _Say No More_ will have a great reputation.
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The new line-up which recorded Airwaves had already disbanded before the album was released. For Say No More Tom and Joey had brought together another strong version of Badfinger. Tony Kaye ( known from Yes) played the keyboards, Glen Sherba played guitars, Richard Bryans played drums and Tom and Joey played their usual bass and guitar. This album should be the last Badfinger album; Tony Kaye and Tom Evans actually did rehearse for a second Radio Records album, but nothing came out of that.
Their ideas for Say No More was to produce a rock album; not so slick and commercial as Airwaves. Unfortunately the material on the album is not up to the same standards as its predecessor. A few strong tracks can be found here, though. Too Hung Up On You by Tom Evans is the outstanding track on the album; to my ears the only song where the vocals sound like Badfinger. Hold On is a good song too; it actually was a minor hit. Joey wrote some of his compulsory rockers for the album, but they all sound more or less noisy, probably due to poor production. He also wrote the commercial Because I Love You, a Blondie styled track. The song is okay, but the sound of it isn't very "clean". We can hope for a future release of the album will have a cleaner sound; after all the album deserves it.
My favourite: Too Hung Up On You
Their ideas for Say No More was to produce a rock album; not so slick and commercial as Airwaves. Unfortunately the material on the album is not up to the same standards as its predecessor. A few strong tracks can be found here, though. Too Hung Up On You by Tom Evans is the outstanding track on the album; to my ears the only song where the vocals sound like Badfinger. Hold On is a good song too; it actually was a minor hit. Joey wrote some of his compulsory rockers for the album, but they all sound more or less noisy, probably due to poor production. He also wrote the commercial Because I Love You, a Blondie styled track. The song is okay, but the sound of it isn't very "clean". We can hope for a future release of the album will have a cleaner sound; after all the album deserves it.
My favourite: Too Hung Up On You
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A1
I Got You
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A2
Come On
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A3
Hold On
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A4
Because I Love You
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A5
Rock 'n' Roll Contract
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B1
Passin' Time
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B2
Three Time Loser
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Too Hung Up on You
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B4
Crocadillo
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No More
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