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Dude this is Ai in its infancy.. where the actual fuck are we heading

We're heading to not knowing what is "real"

u/Tuna_Rage avatar

https://www.udio.com/songs/31aQxYNqreFVcsvCkcKgpQ What’s real is the way it makes you feel.

Nice. It's annoying how it ignored your request for a male vocalist though. I've had the same issues in Udio.

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The prompts it displays are not the prompts I used. It’s very misleading.

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What’s real is the way it makes you feel.

This is such a succinct, conclusive way to put it. Can I steal it?

u/Arcturus_Labelle avatar

Nice one!

u/w1zzypooh avatar

That's cool. I wish we can make AI video games like AI can make music from Udio.

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u/Comfortable-Block102 avatar

blade runner 2049

Blade Runner 2025

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u/bozoconnors avatar

What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

-Morpheus (while hardwired virtually into a computer construct nearly indistinguishable from reality)

u/mista-sparkle avatar

Nothing is real... we're just pixels and our brains are just numbers.

- kid tripping on mushrooms in the videogame Fable: The Lost Chapters

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u/qroshan avatar

No. We never knew what was real. We just had a high level of hubris that we knew we were sure what was real.

Humanity survived after discovering "Earth is not the center which everything revolves around". We will survive this too, just like we survived movies (did you know that they aren't real?), WWE or photoshop.

Where heading towards: truth is defective; truth is computable. Compute is costly, so: right goes to the gamemaster. Truth forms the chariot, brimful of havenots and cantdoes right down the abyss.

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u/jormungandrsjig avatar

Things are going to get very weird my friend in the not so distant future.

u/Megneous avatar

If only I had been born 40 years later... I can't believe AI is finally taking off, but my life is already about half over.

u/Acceptable_Box7598 avatar

Experiencing life without AI and then experiencing AI later on is better than being born into a life of AI

u/PalmTreesOnSkellige avatar

I agree. I'm 28 and feel sort of robbed. I was excited but I didn't want it this soon :(

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Don't worry, the 2030's are going to see bioengineering take off like A.I is in the 2020's. By the end of that decade we'll probably be either replacing any faulty organ with a lab grown new one, or replacing it with machine parts. That's when life expectancy will really start to increase.

I believe this too. People think I'm crazy. But I totally believe it.

But if all your organs are artificial, are you still you?

We would still have issues with Alzheimer's, and I don't think replacing brains is gonna work.

We would have to have some therapy that just straight up grows neurons without causing cancer

u/WesternAgent11 avatar

Longevity escape velocity

At point in time when technological advancements increase human life expectancy faster than the time it takes to make those advancements

It works like this, let’s say right now it takes 2 years to develop technology to extend the median age of a human’s life by 1 year. This explains why people used to die when they were in their 40s and today the median age of death is around 70

In 20-30 years, let’s say it now takes 3 months of progress to extend the median age of a human’s life by 1 year, this is longevity escape velocity

With that in mind, you can consistently extend your life with every new technological improvement, effectively outrunning old age and death by natural causes

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Half a lifetime is still long enough to see AI grow exponentially most likely.

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Wherever it is it's a highway of business without efficiency, and let's hope we wont hit a tree :P

We’re heading to having our digital loved ones with us always Kal-el

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People like to cry foul of this technology, but I mostly think it'll be used for fun like this with little bits of bad seeds mixed in who use it for evil methods. The same as it is with all technology.

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People cry foul because although there may be a proportionally smaller number of bad actors, the impact of their missuse is likely far greater than a multitude of videos like this.

For states that have a strong hand on media and the organisations that provide social media it's likely going to see propaganda enter an era where it is indiscernable from reality. We've been in a post-truth age for a while now, but this is ramping it up even further.

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Exactly. Just today there was a story of a principal losing his job because a disgruntled teacher decided to use GenAI to fabricate a series of racist rants that he then posted on twitter. The principal also recieved death threats, constant harassment, and didn't leave his house for 3 months. We are entering an age where anyone could just destroy someone else's life on a whim. And that's not even the worst of it, as you said propaganda is going to be wild in the very near future.

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u/Royal_Airport7940 avatar

It doesn't include is. It includes our data... for now.

Are we free?

Towards Reid taking his top off

u/profcraigarmstrong avatar

Agreed, though in this case the LLM had 20 years of Reid's writings and speeches. He's been quite prolific!

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Holy fuck

u/norsurfit avatar

I actually like Reid AI better than I like Reid.

I just know my AI twin is going to be a lot more likeable that me

u/Competitive_Travel16 avatar

I have a feeling my family will have the same complaints.

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I opened the comment section by saying "Holy fuck" and the first thing I see, is your comment. Nice!

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Similarly to you, I just said “Fuck…” haha

u/profcraigarmstrong avatar

Digital twins, separated at birth!

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u/hawara160421 avatar

It's one of those moments, I gotta admit.

I've been waiting for someone to build something like this...it would be glorious for work...so many random questions and emails could be answered by my twin

u/Arcturus_Labelle avatar

"Have you tried turning it off and then on again?"

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u/zomboy1111 avatar

Maybe dead internet theory is really going to happen. I'm starting to notice I double take a lot of content if it's AI or not.

When it motioned by “welcoming challenge” with hands. prior to explanation. Was crazy.

I am not ready for this shit. And everybody who feels so, is certainly not.

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Wait till you meet my grandma

No I blew her already

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u/Rivarr avatar

The tech behind this demo isn't nearly as capable or polished as this video wants you to believe, but it's a fun look at where we'll likely be pretty soon.

u/Glittering-Neck-2505 avatar

Exactly, this is the kind of real time convos we can have soon the more we increase tokens / second.

u/latamxem avatar

it can already be done with groq.

As someone who is beating my head full-time against the myriad of miniscule problems we have to solve in order to get to consistency in delivering the quality created by editing in this video: For conversations it's TTFT (time to first token) more than TPS (tokens per second) that matters more, and fireworks.ai actually beats groq in that regard.

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That makes sense, for chat certainly. For true-to-life verbal conversations, it seems like it'd be necessary to get to where output can be calculated simultaneously with input generation, similar to those real-time image generators that gen while you type. Ideally, with the ability to potentially send output at any point (interject) based on in-context persona/relevance.

But for back and forth, I agree, TTFT is the true latency given walls of text generate pretty quick on most platforms, and conversation doesn't necessarily require generating huge amounts of tokens on each output.

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It can do that, it just takes a minute or two for each section of the video. And I think they didn't build an interactive system. But it's quite straightforward to build this like a messaging app where you get asynchronous video or audio messages every couple of minutes after your reply.

You can also have real time interaction with HeyGen or D-ID or Disrupt. It's just not going to be quite as smart of an AI model. More like gpt-3.5 probably.

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Can you share how a regular person would create something like this for their website as an example?

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What we see here is still generations down the line. So probably next Thursday.

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Why does AI always talk so fast? It needs more thinking pauses.

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I'm pretty sure some hefty pauses were edited out. They just came before the actual response. I've seen YouTubers do this same kind of thing recently and they had time to chit-chat with friends or viewers a bit before the AI's response was ready.

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thanks

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My biggest issue is that it didn't do the Seinfeld voice impression in his own voice for the last part, and the Klingon had no feeling and sounded like a robot.

you need to think that those are two AIs

the one that generated the text - is that any good?

the second - voice ai (emotions, pronunciations, etc)

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Three actually.

REID AI VIDEO BY Hour One - https://hourone.ai/

REID AI VOICE BY 11ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io/

Reid AI Answers by GPT trained on Reid Hoffman's content.

thanks for pointing out the AI VIDEO :)

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u/Competitive_Travel16 avatar

The Klingon was pronounced bu taking the text of actual Klingon words and saying them if they were English words, totally unintelligible.

My issue was when he gave the list stating: "one sentence to a smart person, 5 year old, Klingon and Jerry Seinfeld"

Just like how the AI Language modelers handle our requests right now (ChatGPT, CoPilot, etc.).

It's still pretty impressive and almost "sellable" if there can be a quick turn-around for social media segments. Think "News Daddy" AI clones.

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Completely ignoring the tech, but does this guy advocates for blitzscalling or is just making observations on how corporations behave ? Because scorched earth growth tactics, is just a weird choice to be the topic used to present this tech to the world. Most impressive, but also fucking yikes.

u/helpmelearn12 avatar

I haven’t read the book, but he’s an executive chairman at both LinkedIn and a venture capital firm…. So I wouldn’t be surprised if he advocates for it

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The way the big techs are building AI today is very much blitzscalling. There's extremely persuasive research saying, for example, that quantization to 1.37 1.58 bits per weight is just as good as 8 bits, but nobody is doing that because all the inner loops need to be rewritten for trinary values. The issue is that they're all doing it so it won't pay off by giving one of them a winner-take-all outcome.

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The top people in this field and probably many others are saying to basically scale the current architecture as far as you can before you see any diminishing returns. Just keep throwing compute and data at the problem. And only then do you touch the transformer and start messing with its base architecture. Like that's their legit strategy.

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Perhaps Knuth's canard that "premature optimisation is the root of all evil" should be tempered when clicking "run" costs $10 million.

premature optimisation

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If it ain't broke...

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u/sino-diogenes avatar

1.37 bits per weight

wtf? how

u/Competitive_Travel16 avatar

Sorry, it's 1.58 bits per weight for trinary: https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.17764

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He was one of the founders of LinkedIn and he produces a podcast on how to build hypergrowth tech companies. He wrote a book on the subject. But yes, he advocates for growth at all costs, margins be damned, to win a market. Once you've won as much market share as possible you have all the pricing power and can move toward profitability. It's the pretty standard VC playbook at this point, ensuring there are a lot of failed companies but the few winners make it worthwhile.

So many companies blew through millions with nothing to show for it, and then went bankrupt. But I guess no lessons were learned and that's what passes for corporate wisdom these days.

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When cash becomes a hot potato you want to exchange for something else as fast as possible, this becomes a viable strategy.

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u/Singularity-42 avatar

You must be new to capitalism!

reh, I wish.

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Okay it's time to work on creating the girl I'm in love with. We just feed her Instagram to the machine. Any moral or ethical issues? lol

u/Automatic-Ambition10 avatar

They will sell you their digital twin dw

Just ask her if she is ok with you using her instagram content to create an AI that lets you fantasize about having a relationship with her. Worst she can say is no right?

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answer was in the first sentence:

it's time to work on creating the girl I'm in love with

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