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Pros & Cons of New York

Roger Waters (Artist, Contributor) Format: Audio CD

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Disc: 1

1	Welcome To The Machine 8:30
2	Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun 9:55
3	Money 8:10
4	If 4:01
5	Wish You Were Here 6:44
6	Pigs On The Wing (Part I) 1:38
7	Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert 0:46
8	Southampton Dock 2:13
9	The Gunner's Dream 6:57
10	In The Flesh 5:03
11	Nobody Home 4:47
12	Have A Cigar 5:46
13	Another Brick In The Wall (Part I) 2:44
14	The Happiest Days Of Our Lives 1:55
15	Another Brick In The Wall (Part II) 5:06

Disc: 2

1	4:30 AM (Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad) 3:15
2	4:33 AM (Running Shoes) 4:21
3	4:37 AM (Arabs With Knives And West German Skies) 3:24
4	4:39 AM (For The First Time Today, Part 2) 3:17
5	4:41 AM (Sexual Revolution) 5:57
6	4:47 AM (The Remains Of Our Love) 3:44
7	4:50 AM (Go Fishing) 7:18
8	4:56 AM (For The First Time Today, Part 1) 1:33
9	4:58 AM (Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin) 3:04
10	5:01 AM (The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking, Part 10) 5:55
11	5:06 AM (Every Stranger's Eyes) 5:29
12	5:11 AM (The Moment Of Clarity) 1:38
13	Band Introduction 3:06
14	Brain Damage 3:46
15	Eclipse 3:00

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CLASSIC 1985 BROADCAST RECORDING FROM THE FIRST SOLO ROGER WATERS TOUR By 1984, the classic Pink Floyd line-up was all but finished. Despite reaching No. 1 on the charts, the previous year s The Final Cut had been met with mixed reviews, and many fans saw it as a Roger Waters solo album in all but name. Having unofficially left the group, Waters took the opportunity to resurrect a previous project, The Pros & Cons Of Hitch Hiking. Featuring some of the finest session players of the day, including Ray Cooper, Andy Newmark, David Sanborn, Raphael Ravenscroft and Andy Bown, as well as Eric Clapton, Jack Palance and The National Philharmonic Orchestra, Waters released the album as his debut solo effort on 30th April 1984. The new album garnered moderate success, reaching No. 13 in the UK and 31 in the US. Waters, with Clapton in tow, hit the road to support the album just three months later. However, the tour was plagued by poor ticket sales, and some performances at larger venues had to be cancelled. Waters started over in March 1985 in the US, playing smaller locations, and these shows were met with a much greater degree of success. This two disc collection, the subject of an FM radio broadcast synced across the country, was recorded on 28th March at the Radio City Music Hall in New York. Featuring a host of Floyd classics as well as the new record in its entirety, this double CD set goes to show that Waters was just as much an exceptional performer, showman and musician when out on his own as he ever was with his old band.

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Product Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 12.7 x 13.97 x 1.27 cm; 90 Grams
Manufacturer ‏ : ‎ Video Music, Inc.
Item model number ‏ : ‎ B071LT45GK
Label ‏ : ‎ Video Music, Inc.
ASIN ‏ : ‎ B071LT45GK
Country of origin ‏ : ‎ United Kingdom
Number of discs ‏ : ‎ 2

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Geo

great for the songs he plays making it a rare ...

Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on January 26, 2018

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great for the songs he plays making it a rare set with half classic floyd and the other the first solo album complete but sound is a bit thin

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Mathieu Gariépy

Waters at his best

Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on December 22, 2019

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The song « Running shoes » is worth the price by itself

Great show!

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Michael J. Boone

Four Stars

Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on February 25, 2018

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another very interesting show

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albatros

Awful sound captation

Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on December 25, 2018

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Thé sound captation is awful. Waters is regularly « off mic »; it is a shame because the arrangmenos seem quite interesting.

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ブリティッシュロック裏街道好き

昔FMエアチェックしてました

Reviewed in Japan 🇯🇵 on August 1, 2017

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85～86年ごろ日本でもFMで放送されたことがあります。その完全版ですね。ブートでも有名な音源です。
日本でもサントリーサウンドマーケットという番組（声も顔も良い西田珠美がDJやってました）で2週にわたって放送されました。
FMではロジャーがインタビューに答えてホロホニック録音（ダミーヘッド録音の一種）を自分で手拍子しながら「音が上から下へ動くだろ」とか言ってました。これは本CDには収録されていません、当然ですが。
このライブ、音質も演奏も良いのだが時期的にギターがクラプトンではないのが残念。完全復活前のクラプトンはツアーにはいやいや参加してたらしいが当時の音源ではとても良い演奏が聴けます。
1枚目はお馴染のフロイドナンバーでカッコいいのですが2枚目は曲そのもの（ソロのヒッチハイキング全曲再現）があまり良く無い。
ラジオカオスやアミューズドトゥデス（死滅遊戯なんて絶対呼ばんぞ、わしゃ）よりは良い（内容もわかりやすい）のだがフロイド名曲群と比べるとねえ。
歌詞を理解しようにも悪夢を見たって話なので結局つまらんのだ。似た作りのファイナルカットは政治的な歌詞とかとても面白かったのに。
ということで当時大喧嘩してたギルモアフロイドとのツアー競争でも負けてしまいベルリンウォールまで苦戦したロジャーのライブです。

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camelcollins

ＦＭオンエアとテイク違い⁉️

Reviewed in Japan 🇯🇵 on August 3, 2017

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当時ＦＭ東京で3月２８日公演としてオンエアされた音源のオフィシャルリリースでしょうか高音質でうれしいですね❗️ただしテイクが違う⁉️全て聴き比べた訳ではありませんがbrain damageの演奏、メンバー紹介で顕著に違う❗️ＦＭオンエアのテイクは音像が遠く、オーディエンス録音ぽく感じます。
radio city music hallは3月26〜28日三夜連続とのこと。どちらかが別の日ではないかと思います。

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Amazon カスタマー

放送用音源で少し安心

Reviewed in Japan 🇯🇵 on August 24, 2017

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う～ん、こうゆう音源もあるんですね。音質面で不安は有りましたが、放送局用でプロスコンズ時期と言うので思いきって購入しました。内容的には充分鑑賞にたえるアルバムになってます。
バンドメンバーは、ブックレットによればＥＣやＤサンボーンなど参加してるようですが、もっと詳しく表記してくれたら、とは思いました。

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Lee Lucas

Superb Release.... Forget about it not being an offical Waters releae, becuase this has something that his own releases don't...

Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on July 16, 2017

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Introduction…

The Pros & Cons Of New York is a 2 CD Set that was released on the 14th July 2017. To be honest this is not an official Roger Waters release and was released by a company called Gossip Records. However I did pre-order it from Amazon a couple of months before hand and it arrived through my letterbox on Friday 14th the day of its release.

You can find this particular live concert of Waters on many bootlegs over the years since Waters embarked on his first tour as a solo artist back in 1985 having left Pink Floyd. Though what I will say, is that the quality is nowhere near what we have on this latest 2 CD Set and for the price of £9.99 you are genuinely getting a piece of quality here for your money, and it’s great value too especially when you are getting the whole 2 hour and 14 minute live show.

The major reason I wanted this more than anything, is really down to the fact that Waters himself mainly ignores his own solo material. He still very much thinks he is with Pink Floyd when you look at all the live material he has officially released himself. It’s a real shame really because since he left Floyd he has now made 4 great albums and yet he still devotes over 90% of his live shows to the material he did with Pink Floyd all those years back, and you very rarely get to hear him do any of his solo material at all.

To be honest I have never been to any of Roger Waters live shows, and I am sorry to say I would not either. I’ve seen Pink Floyd live and I honestly do not believe in paying to see an artist who’s not playing what he supposed to be playing, and that is the music from his solo material and stop living in the past all the time. He really needs to take a leaf out of Peter Gabriel’s book I am afraid.

Do not get me wrong I have nothing against Waters playing some of his past he did with Floyd and to be perfectly honest from what live shows I have of his on DVD he’s very good, and capable of putting over the Floyd material very well. His live In The Flesh DVD is excellent, though once again he’s obsessed by his older material he did with Floyd and you get very little of his solo material.

So what’s so special about this unofficial release one might ask? Find out in my detailed review coming up now.
The Double Live Album Review…

The Pros & Cons Of New York is a live concert by Roger Waters that took place on the 28th March 1985 at the Radio City Music Hall in New York America. The whole show was broadcast live across America and the difference between this recording in relation to any bootleg is that it comes from the original radio broadcast, and not some idiot recording the show from the audience with whatever he used to record the concert with.

CD 1.

Roger Waters played 2 live sets that day. The 1st set on the 1st CD is of him performing a just over an hour and 14 minute set of Pink Floyd material and some classics. In whole there are 15 tracks and Waters and the band play quite a variety of the Floyd songs here and I am so glad to see it’s not just mainly the material from The Wall for a change. He does however manage to squeeze in 5 tracks from that album and has devoted a 3rd of the tracks and 19 minutes and 34 seconds of the 74:09 we have here.

He kicks off the show with “Welcome To The Machine” from the Wish You Were Here album, and I quite like how they have arranged many of the older Floyd songs to suit Waters voice more. Though he does not sing all the songs in the set, but he does take on the biggest majority here. There are some really good arrangements which really do make this concert very enjoyable to hear. He also does “Wish You Were Here” and “Have A Cigar” from the same album too.

It’s also nice to see 3 tracks from the last album he did with Floyd. The Final Cut featured with the oldies here too. “Money” from the bands prolific album Dark Side Of The Moon is the only song we get from that album strangely enough. Though he does end off his 2nd set with a couple of more songs from it. The intro from the Animals album “Pigs On The Wing (Part I)” is the only song from that album that gets an airing, but it’s quite funny hearing Roger calling for his “Pig”.

One thing that is a joy to hear is “If” from the Atom Heart Mother album and the even more earlier song “Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun” from the bands 1968 2nd album A Saucerful of Secrets. I love how they have arranged this one and it’s certainly my favourite out of the bunch here. In some ways it’s even better than how they did the original studio and the Live At Pompeii versions, though I dare say somebody will shoot me down in flames for saying that :))))))))))))

Considering I never brought this release for the 1 CD here. I have to say I quite like it a lot more than what I would thought. The 2nd CD was why I did buy it originally for. Though no doubt this a great concert over the both sets you have here, and it is recorded very well, and you are getting excellent quality all the way here.

CD 2.

The 2nd CD and the 2nd half of the concert contains the whole of Roger Waters 1st studio solo album The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking played in its entirety from start to finish live. You get another 15 tracks over a playing time of 58 minutes 38 seconds. I have to say this is really something well worth having even though I will say it’s missing Eric Clapton and the keyboards are used to play some of his parts, and some are just completely missing in comparison to what was on the original studio album.

Eric Clapton did originally accompany Roger Waters at the start of this tour but unfortunately after 3 months on the road with Waters he had to pull out, and he was not present when they played here in New York.

Do not get me wrong I think the musicians who are present here did remarkably well especially has some other really great session players had also pulled out of the tour by the time this concert came around. The great percussionist Ray Cooper and guitarist Tim Remwick left with Clapton to start on his live tour at the time. All 3 extremely highly talented musicians in my own personal opinion that in reality could of made this set much more better too.

It was perhaps a very hard tour for Waters. Not just with the lack of musicians pulling out from it, but also down to the fact that most of the venues he had booked for his shows got cancelled, due to lack of interest due to low ticket sales. I think Waters found out for the first time that he was not “Pink” and much less popular than the band was who will still enjoying tremendous success without him.

To be perfectly honest the way that The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking is performed live is something that will grow on you the more times you play it. It’s also a great way to hear the album performed like this and it’s still very professional with the musicians they do have, and how it’s been arranged for the live show. It still works very well and certainly is by far a great addition to have, especially has Waters really has very little to offer with his own solo back catalogue of material, and for the life of me I cannot really see why Waters himself never thought about releasing this himself.

At the end of completing the live album. Roger announces the band to the audience and they come back for an encore with both “Brain Damage” and “Eclipse” from the Dark Side Of The Moon album to end off the show in great style.
The Musicians:

Roger Waters: bass and lead vocals
Michael Kamen: Keyboards
Jay Stapley: lead guitar
Andy Fayerweather Low: guitar
Mel Collins: sax
Andy Newmark: drums
Katie Kissoon: backing vocals
Doreen Chanter: backing vocals

Summary…

Overall this 2 CD Set is a well worthy purchase and takes onboard a very enjoyable concert just under the 2 and a quarter hour mark over the 2 live sets you are getting here. No doubt Roger Waters and the band done the business in putting over a really great live show.

Both the CD’s are housed in a Jewel case with a hinged holder inside that opens up to revel the 2nd CD on the reverse side. I have quite a few of these from the past, and even though these Jewel cases are not seen as much these days and more often is the case they come in cardboard slipcases, the case is well constructed for its purpose and does the job very well.

Conclusion…

The Pros & Cons Of New York by Roger Waters may not be an official release by the man himself. Never the less even if he was to release it, I personally do not believe it would be of any greater quality with what you’re getting here. This Radio Broadcast is far from anything remotely disappointing in comparison to the bootlegs this concert has had over all these years. I would even highly recommend replacing them with this. Simply because this is the real genuine quality that came from the radio station itself who broadcast it.

The arrangements throughout both the sets of Pink Floyd and Roger Waters solo material are very well done making this live concert most satisfying to hear these songs done in this way. No doubt that Michael Kamen would of played a big part in these arrangements too.

1985 was perhaps a pivotal part of Waters career especially for testing the water of how popular he would still be with Floyd fans. Though many may of deserted him back then, he has certainly maintained to build himself a far more successful career and get back the support over the years from those many who deserted him.

As I stated in the introduction of my review here. Coming across live material of Waters solo output is not a common thing. Still till this day he still very much draws his attention back to the earlier side of his career with Pink Floyd. Having the complete album of The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking played live has to be one massive bonus in my eyes.

No doubt this release gets a big thumbs up from myself and is very welcoming to see for a change. At its price point of £9.99 for 2 CD’s of live material its very much a winner and will certainly please both Waters and Floyd fans alike, and that fact that is not an official I would personally recommend it as if it was. Simply because it’s quality.

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M. Fairman

Can't complain at this as you'll never hear a good live version anywhere else.

Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on June 14, 2023

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Its a bootleg pure and simple. But it's a very good one, and historically I think very important. I totally loved pro and cons from the moment I got it home and put it on the record player. I was going aboard for a month and so missed the live shows in London. I did have a bootleg CD of this before but it wasn't ideal sound. Wondered how much better this would be. Well no worries, it is very good for what it is. I cannot imagine anyone being disappointed with it.

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