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How long had you been watching Vtubers before Selen was terminated?

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I'm curious because my experience of all the recent events is different because I am a very new fan of Vtubers. I only started watching Vtuber clips around Oct/Nov of 2023. The first clips I started watching were Hololive clips of Advent mostly and Niji clips of Lazulight and Scarle. It was so addicting and I was happy to find something that entertained me that much. I was definitely a casual fan as I mostly watched through clips, didn’t follow Vtubers on Twitter, and didn’t check related subreddits. That all changed when Selen was terminated.

Her termination also expanded my knowledge of the VTuber world in general. I was only watching Hololive and Niji clips at first but then I went to support Doki and later Sayu after learning about her story. Through both of them I’ve watched the likes of Filian and Phase Connect girls like Shiina, Lia and Airi among many other Vtubers I didn't know about before.

I truly feel for those of you who had been watching for years and had memberships and stuff. I know that presented a lot of tough decisions for you all to make that I didn’t have to go through, not to mention your emotional investment was greater.

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u/RatioReasoning avatar

Casual watcher when HoloMyth dubuted in 2020. Became what I would call a Vtubing fan in 2021 when Council and Ethyria debuted.

u/Random-Rambling avatar

Sounds about right. HoloMyth was what got Vtubers on my radar, and Holoro (HoloID Gen2) were the first debuts I watched live.

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u/LidiaNekozawa avatar

Since Korone, probably 2020?

Korone is the most chill and lovable of them all!

I also started watching Lidia not too long ago. Fancy meeting you here in the wild

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I was watching clips occasionally when I saw all the east asia Vtubers repeating THAT scene from GTAV, but I started tuning into streams when Coco popped up and even moreso with HoloMyth

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Started to watch casually in 2020 (thanks to Pikamee Kill da ho clip). Ramped it up from there and go from clips to start watching more whole streams like the year after (in line with Lazulight debut and later Obsydia)

u/OkHarrisonBidet avatar

Around 6-7 years, started watching vtubers when Kizuna Ai said f u. Became a live stream watcher in 2020 during the pandemic as a fan of Yorumi Rena

Since October/November 2022 before Yugo got "shadow terminated"

A few years right after the Taiwan incident

u/Michylawhty avatar

I would only watch clips since I was studying back then when HoloMyth debuted. Funnily enough the only clip I saw of Nijisanji was the one with Selen and Pomu playing Minecraft and only Selen finding diamonds. Really enjoyed the clip but that's as much of exposure I had to Niji.

Then I stopped for quite a while to focus on my studies and was completely out of the loop with VTubers, so I had no idea of the growing shitshow happening at Nijisanji, including Selen repeatedly getting screwed over by management and Zaion's termination.

Then came Selen's termination, which I only caught around a week after it occurred. Now I'm frequently watching Doki and try to catch Sayu's stream when I can.

u/omrmajeed avatar

"Oh Look, DIAMONDS!"

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u/RandomowyMetal avatar

Casualy few indies since mid 22.

It's kinda weird how it started...

Feb 22, War -> "they dig trenches in fookin Chernobyl? WTF?" -> Twitter acc litterally just to follow Polish atmomic agency cuz they are responsible for alerts about radioactivity -> NCD and Lazerpig -> Minerva aka Party Demoness. And latter Trickywi, Juniper and little bit of Vex.

And Juniper twitt about Doki return stream (i think it was about it, Juni can be cryptic as hell) made me to digg for more info, cuz i was waiting for Metro Exodus to instal lmao.

So here i am, enjoying Doki and Sayu+sometimes cooking memes and wating Arasaka of VTubing, as i call niji, to "pay" for beign such a idiots and almost ending lives of two great people (or maybe more, who knows...).

Soooo, thanks Puttana! /s XD

Started in November 2020 when SumitoMedia posted his exposé on the new vtuber phenomenon. So about 3 years I guess?

I remember my first Selen clip was a compilation of moments from her collab with Finana playing Metal Slug in August 2021.

u/kylediaz263 avatar

I started watching Kizuna Ai before her infamous "Fuck you" clip.

u/Nichihara avatar

Same man... same

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u/Risemiria avatar

Was a casual Niji fan prior to the pandemic, though I did catch a few milestone streams for a couple of their livers. Lulu's 3D debut and Roa's 3D debut were a couple streams that I can remember catching while working. Also watched a fair bit of Mito and Era clips too.

After Era and Lulu graduated and Roa went into her prolonged hiatus, I sort of began checking out Hololive a bit more for a talent that interested me. I tried checking out Coco, Pekora, and Suisei a bit, though still didn't watch that much Vtuber content. The Taiwan incident certainly grabbed my attention, but I don't think it was until Council came out that I sort of got invested in any one vtuber in particular again. From then, I slipped into casually checking out Councilrys streams here and there. Didn't really pay much attention with the Vtuber scene for a while.

Selen's termination, ironically enough, was what really got me committed to some of the Vtubers that I was watching. After her return as Doki, I quickly added a membership to her, Sayu, Fauna, and a couple others. I've also taken to catching a lot more streams live than I did before everything that occurred in February.

a year or two at this point......thanks for that mousey btw

u/swine_melody avatar

Korone got me into watching Vtubers during COVID, she was very endearing and I liked the retro games she played. Then I got into the rabbit hole of Nijisanji JP vtubers and watched lots of clips from them. Fumino Tamaki and Melissa Kinrenka left really positive impressions on me.

When Niji released NijiEN, I was really hyped for that. Tho at the end of the day, I rarely watched streams ever but I did religiously watch clips a lot for a while until I stopped watching vtubers completely around 2 years ago (had another hobby) and I completely missed Xsoleili to TTT releases and wasn't aware of the Zaion incident.

As someone that thought Nijisanji's brand was much more likeable than Hololive's, the incident was a shock to me. I wasn't heavily invested but I do feel disappointed of the reality of everything being a facade.

I started with Ame playing Apex Legend.

u/MajinKasiDesu avatar

Started with okakoro clips for casual and then really became a fan about a month after Holo Myth launched, actually didn't like Kiara as much at first but stuck with her because I know anime almost always starts rough and just as I expected she got a so much better

I was there for IRyS's debut and then Council, I was a huge fan of Sana because she was just this Aussie ball of sunshine, I'm sad she left but she forever protects manga collection at least (I keep it between a sanalite plush and tako plush)

I admittedly never watched Niji, nor much of the various indies (though I did watch Pochi), until the Selen event and after that I have started watching Doki, Sayu, and Mint 

u/imalllex avatar
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I was a casual watcher who showed up around when Kaela debuted in early 2022. I bounced around a few Holo members before gradually branching out more into Niji and eventually some indie.

I finally found a handful that I consistently find entertaining and who stream pretty regularly. Namely Dokibird, Mint, Fauna, and sometimes Chibidoki and Shylily. I’ll check out Filian every once in awhile too

Edit: Also I’ve grown to really like Shiori as well

I started watching early 2020 (maybe late 2019, not sure) when Projekt Melody popped off.

u/UnmovingGreatLibrary avatar

I forget exactly when, but it was sometime before the debut of Hololive's Gen 5 but after that of HololiveID's Gen 1.

u/Federok avatar
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2020, a month after Myths debut and i blame Garnt/Gigguk for it. Im mainly a holo fan but around 2022 i started watching niji (Mainly Enna, Reimu, Selen and Mika) Phase Connect (Pippa, Shiina and Tenma) , Rin Penrose from idol and some indies very ocasionally.

After the Zaion incident i started having some doubts about Niji and after the early stages of the problems with Selen ( the outfit contest) i started having more reservation about them.

Edit: fuck i forgott that i was subed to Kizuna Ai back when she was starting to get recognition by the west and while i tried to watch her, it wasnt exactly my coup of tea.

u/Khydan701 avatar

I remember seeing AI chan's first "Inside" playthrough vid pop up in my recommended, I've been a fan since then.

u/Frequent_Dig1934 avatar

I think i saw a few translated things floating around online in late 2019/early 2020 but i didn't really realize it was "a thing" for a while, but i distinctly remember i kinda started being aware of what vtubers are and started liking them when i ended up knowing about two people in particular. Projekt melody and haachama. I got interested in melody both for obvious reasons (TMI: she was the first person i busted a nut to as an adult) but also because i was really curious about this whle technology and really rationalized that this was a new type of content (not just the stuff on the other site). Haachama meanwhile was so fucking wild and different in all the clips i had seen of her and references i heard about her (especially from this goddamn video) that i had to check her out, and that opened the way for me to get into hololive, then myth debuted and that made things easier since they spoke english, and then i got into everything else from niji en to phase to indies.

u/Writinganddoodles avatar

I was probably aware in 2016 or so when Kizuna Ai grew prominent (Fack U clips) then I properly got acquainted with the GTA Hololive clips in 2020, but it wasn't really until Luxiem that I found people that streamed in my timezone. Otherwise I did tune into the occasional Haachama stream despite language barrier. It really really sucks that Nijisanji was so comforting/reliable to watch and had so much potential for EN expansion and now I just feel sad knowing what this business model has led to.

Casually watch Kizuna AI in her starting days so around December 2016 mark and she was like the only vtuber i watched mostly then saw a Matsuri Clip (ya know the infamous band aids) around early 2020 and started watching some Holo Clips here and there but mostly just her then like a month or two. Later i saw the infamous Etogibara Era clip of her straight up raging in paper mario (i believe?) and that was when i heard of Niji. I really really started watching Vtubers when Holo Myth debuted and when Calli started her memberships in her membership opening stream I was one of the first deadbeats to sign up.

Then after like year and heres the painful part I first watched Millie back in December 2020 and mostly kept up on what she was doing until her first graduation then burnt out a bit since I mostly just watched Myth as Lazulight and Obsydia didnt really catch my eye barring 2 people those were Selen and Pomu then I really became more of a Niji fan than a Holo fan when the one who graduated came back as Millie Parfait and really watched her for almost 2 years then this shit happened and now I am soured on some of the old memories I had pre Millie and now I went back to my roots and started watching Calli more often again.

Now im just watching Calli and waiting for VSPO EN to debut then hopefully i can really really enjoy vtubers again without being a bit soured on some of the recent events.

u/NUFC9RW avatar

Like 13 months, thanks Rin for invading my shorts.

Probably right before myth was announced

u/Kuro-pi avatar
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I was watching clips of Kizuna Ai back in 2017. Friends started sending me clips of hololive and stuff through 2018 and 2019 and I sometimes even threw a stream on if I was sick in bed or something, but I distinctly remember the day I fell into the rabbit hole.

I used to work at an international airport in Canada and when the lockdown here officially started started in March, our flights went from 95%+ full to having like 5 people on board a 737. Needless to say, hours got cut. Early one Saturday morning in April after gaming for most of the night, I saw one of Hololive's talents streaming something unusual. Korone was playing Doom 64, so I tuned in. Obviously after gaming for most of the night I eventually fell asleep and my tablet on my bed continued to play. I woke up numerous times to her still playing and finally got up for real around 11 am. I think it was like 3 or 4 in the afternoon where I live in Canada when she finally finished the game, and the vast majority of her audience was overseas viewers. I seem to recall there being well over 10k people watching by the time she beat the last boss. I think a lot of people fell into the rabbit hole that day. (The stream in question, if you're curious, and a translated clip about it.)

After that I started watching a lot more stuff live, even putting streams on in the background while I gamed myself. I fell so far into the hole that I started paying attention to schedules on different websites to see who was streaming (eventually settling on holodex permanently around the time they switched sites and added other companies) because youtube's organization for upcoming livestreams was, and still is, complete garbage.

From there I picked up a few niji jp talents who I still watch to this day. Suzuhara Lulu (yes I watch her new channel still), Hayama Marin, and Sukoya Kana (when she isn't no-lifing splatoon anyway). Also watch a handful of indies and a few of the prism girls from time to time.

When Myth came out, it took me a while to warm up to just about everybody except Gura, but I enjoy all of them now. When Council came out, I really liked them, but eventually fell in love with Fauna and she was actually my most watched channel on youtube last year. I love Bae, but some of her streams and energy are just too zoomer for me (I'm in my late 30's so yeah) and for the same reason, I didn't really click with most of nijisanji EN. That said, I did eventually come across some clips of Pomu and Selen together and started watching both of them fairly regularly.

When Advent came out, I fell in love with pretty much all of them on day one, and I was actually starting to watch Kaela pretty regularly in the months leading up to their debut, so when Grindstone happened, hooooo boy. Biboo might actually edge out Fauna for my most watched vtuber this year. And more recently I've started watching quite a few people in Phase Connect thanks to the extremely persistent posting of clips by a certain somebody in a discord server I'm in over the last year.

It's been a wild ride up to this point, and now I can't and don't want to imagine my life without vtubers to watch. I really enjoy watching them game, I regularly buy games I've never even heard of before because I watch one of them play one, and often pick up a hot new game and try to speed my way through the opening hours so I can watch the first vtubers pick it up without spoiling myself.

TL;DR

It's terminal guys. I'm beyond saving. Go on without me.

u/TotallyNotStimer avatar

Started with Hololive, then in 2021 got devoured by PRISM Project. Now - focused on Indies and Ex-PRISMera only

u/BlackBrantScare avatar
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Ina casual watcher since debut because chill drawing stream. Start watching phase Tenma because the funny screech after free bird incident

Want ti be one myself but I don’t think I can (too social awkward)

I started with Holostars. With Kira as my first oshi. So around 2020? I'm mainly a Holostars viewer and only really know about others through occasional news and interactions. Selen got on my radar because of her interaction with StarEN boys. 

Then the entire incident happened and here we are.

u/ZeroFox75 avatar

Sometime in 2020 after I stumbled across Suisei’s Saga Jihen cover. Then I got recommended a bunch of clips of her Elite business partner playing GTA V.

I only started watching Niji because Kiara mentioned Pomu and I figured if she had Tenchou’s seal of approval she must be worth watching. KFP certi-fried Maid

Selen termination kinda reignited my will to watch Vtubers and pay attention to indies and small agencies. I want to give my support to the vtubers that I like, and of course through the normal way. Comment, watch streams, and chill.

u/TrueMystikX avatar

Fell in the hole shortly after Calli appeared on a certain podcast. Been a holofan since, while somewhat following along what goes on in Niji.

Since the first Wah.

u/kwk- avatar

Since Korone's debut in 2019. Best vtuber debut for me lol

Genuinely wasn't that into it. Barely watched Sayu because her Genshin content (about halfway through Inazuma releases). Other than that, it was just joking around with Filian and Drumsy.

I knew about Hololive because my weeb friends wouldn't shut up about them, but it was also the reason I avoided Hololive, too. Watched TINY bits of Shylily and Ironmouse being cute and that was it.

Then the Nijidrama started and I just happened to be watching ONE VTUBER who was playing Dwarf Fortress (I love DF but it's not a very streamed game so I helped educate them on the game lol) and that vtuber just happened to be following all the latest vtuber news.

Before that, all I ever watched were my friends who just happened to have vtuber models.

u/Elnuggeto13 avatar

Selen was the first vtuber I found before exploring the rabbit hole. I thought she was cool tbh

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I was soooopar early on the train because I was into Japanese hard-core punk ,

So after Kizuna Ai, I followed the BAN group until they lived up to their name!

Basically a group of copyright infringing nutcases led by a guy using Kaiji the gambler as his Vtuber model. They would overtly show themselves setting up emulators, they would play full clips/songs, they would get their hands on cancelled projects and show them off on stream..... Basically reminded me of trolly "Yippies" as vtubers. Discovered Azur through Kizuna, then Hololive through Azur. Flare and "YeY"tan ftw

I didn't think indie even existed since it seemed expensive to start up for little initial gain, then the Pokimane drama led me to the indies.

Can't remember exactly when I found Niji but I actually ran into Maria in a game, watched her for a bit, then she had a Rosemi collab, and then I found Selen through Rosemi. Somewhere in there I randomly became a Chaadya as well until management screwed her

Since Holo En debuted

u/manusiabumi avatar
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Since i found out  about holo id and niji id around 2020, been enjoying both until the "merger", now mostly into holo id and a few indies, also started following vshojo bc of matara and michi

u/xkiririnx avatar

Started with Kizuna Ai back in 2017. Goodness, I remember when the worst thing that happened in vtubing that went viral was the entire Gamebu situation.

Never would've thought Nijisanji would be spoken of in similar infamy while the company behind the Gamebu trouble has fired most of the people from back then, rebranded themselves to Brave Group and are now doing pretty well with VSPO and V4Mirai

u/VolXII avatar

Was initially an indie watcher on twitch but then began following hololive and Niji around early 2020s roughly in April. Was around when Area15 first debuted and all that.

Was more a casual clip watcher during the time and got hooked with things like Foobs Astronomia. Went down hard into the rabbit hole soon after. At the time, I really enjoyed Niji ID since they were some of the few who spoke English then, especially Hana. Then I sorta branched off to other ID members like Zea.

Looking back, its actually amazing and a bit surprising to see how much has went on in just a few years within the vtubing sphere...

Back then I basically witnessed the whole Niji IN to EN rebrand, Taiwan incident, Aloe, Roa drama, the great Konami purge on Holo's side, Niji Merger and slow death of ID, Holomyth, Lazulight, etc.

Its interesting to see how back then, while Niji did have its faults, it was still seen as the golden standard then. Hololive on the otherhand was embroiled with issues and was under the scrutiny of the fans and masses. But that's one thing I appreciate and give credit to Cover for, while they themselves aren't perfect by a longshot, they at least showed that they seemed to care and listen to fans and adopted changes for the better. On the otherhand we have Niji that just seems unrepentant for all that has gone on and refuses to seemingly listen or change...

u/The3DWeiPin avatar

Remember Kizuna AI and Siro?

Watched the 3 of the big 5 for awhile,being Ai, Luna, and Siro, then I was watching Vtubers on Twitch like crazy because more popped up speaking English, like Zen and the rest of VSW, mainly watched Ironmouse and one named NoizyBunny. Then Myth came out, and switched to essentially just Hololive for the longest time. Became interested in Niji only after Selen, and watched her every now and then, then Pomu after she got into MGS, a little bit of Elira. Now I'm essentially JUST Hololive now, a couple of indies.

u/rpgnovels avatar

Around when monhun rise first released on the switch. YT recommended hololive’s Luna to me and I passively watched some parts of her gameplay. Then came a clip where she said something like “not baby! Am adult sexy hunter”. Laughed my ass off at that. I realized vtubers aren’t just about acting cute; they can be great comedians too.

4 years..

Around Jan 2020, a month before Covid outbreak, found that holo MC wolf game clip on youtube. Then covid happen, continue watching them till now.

How I found Nijisanji, it was when I found the watchalong of Subaru and Belmond watching Avengers. Then I keep track on Belmond doing MCU watchalong. Later I found Himawari via Himawari ARK message clips to Pekora. etc etc..

For NijiEN probably from Ollie, Zeta and Selen APEX collabs

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I officially fell in the rabbit hole sometime in the very beginning of the Vtuber boom, that was around the end of 2019 I believe?

But I technically got into Vtubers before then, before I even knew these funny anime characters were even called "VTubers". I was just casually watching recommended clips of these people that use some sort of "anime facecam" (as I called them at the time, lol) and amused me in the situations they get themselves into. (If I recall, those were like untranslated Minecraft clips and other horror games)

Memories of who exactly I watched back then were vague but Pekora of Hololive, Belmond of Nijisanji, Kizuna AI, and Siro were amongst the main Vtubers I saw recommended often.

(If you want to stretch the meaning of a "VTuber" to its limits then technically I've been watching VTubers since I was still in elementary school. Annoying Orange is who I'm referring to. One of the OG VTubers technically, lmao)

Ah those were the days, haha

September 14th, 2020. When Nyanners uploaded her collab with Melody, Silvervale, and Mouse. I was subscribed to Nyanners for her parody songs but eventually forgot she existed, then saw that video in my recommendations while stuck at home due to the pandemic. And my brain’s been rotten ever since.

u/Esmiko avatar

Back in 2018-2019 when Hololive collabed with Azur Lane which was the only game I was playing back then.

Two and a half years. Never knew a single thing about vtubers before.

I was stuck in hospital for six months with nothing to do but watch YouTube. Was looking up Apex when I saw a live stream of an anime girl playing Apex. It was Selen, Uto and Restia. 

The rest is history.

Since sometime in mid 2019, I think. The first ones I watched were Ironmouse and Rin Asobi. I started watching Hololive in October 2020 and Nijisanji sometime not long after.

u/True-Efficiency5992 avatar

5 years. Started watching Kaguya Luna and after her hiatus dived deep into holo.

u/BlueBerrryScone avatar

I’ve been watching since around 2017-18ish?

I’ve been autistic about them for ages

u/Visible_Jeweler_3653 avatar

I had watched Selen since she debuted with her wave mates. Not all the time but I watched her clips everyday.

u/BrokenTorpedo avatar

Casual watcher of Kizuna Ai and then Mito and the other NijiJP talents for a while, not until HoloMyth dubuted that I got more engaged with Vtubing, then really dived deep into it when Lazulight dubuted.

u/EndellionQT avatar

I became aware of current day vtubing during the lockdown in 2020 (mostly through Ironmouse) but only started following Hololive / Nijisanji in early / mid 2022.

u/Karekter_Nem avatar

Start of March 2020 because that’s when lockdowns started in the USA.

I started watching around the time HoloCouncil debuted. I stopped watching after a depressive episode in late 2021. Covid had driven me mentally into the ground. I came back around the time Pomu was graduating.

What a chaotic time to return.

First stream I watched was Kizuna AI play Resident Evil 7. I mostly watched clips like Pikamee Vs Tigger until someone linked me Lia watching the Chris Chan documentary.

u/Viki713Gaming avatar

26th of November 2019, Hololive x Azur Lane collab. Around the same time, Fubuki beat up a pineapple.

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When Kizuna Ai went viral a few years ago. But then when the yt's community subtitle went down and Kaguya Luna disappeared, i stopped watching. Until Korone went viral and then have been watching vtuber ever since. 

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Very casual fan around 2019 and started getting in the community in 2020 with the debut of holomyth

I really got interested in vtubers during early 2023, or late 2022. I forget which.

since 2020 here. nyanners debut for me.

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Since Summer of 2021 where, after seeing a lot of discussion on the discord I run (to the point of making a vtuber channel to keep discussions contained), I checked out Gura. This led to me also checking out Mumei and Calli, then the rest of EN at the time, then some of ID (Followed both branches since, Stars En since it started, and at least keep tabs on JP), and then starting to look at Niji via Selen and (due to one of my discord mods) Finana, which lead to more on Niji's side until... well, The Black Stream.

u/Kamen-Rider-Build avatar
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Since the Kizuna Ai days. Found Hololive from the GOAT herself, Coco.

I only started watching Anykuro steamers because ID and IN.

u/ylz-zmp avatar

I started watching during Luxiem debut, a friend introduced me and I was curious since I was only familiar with facecam streamers. From there I branched out to the older waves as I stumbled across fun clips or collabs that caught my interest.

I found Selen through a NijiEN collab and she fit all the criteria I needed for casual entertainment - fun, endless replay value without getting bored (critical for me since streams are usually background noise while I'm working), large variety of games and content. Watched quite a bit of Mika too, since she played games that NijiEN didn't touch.

Stopped watching streams some time in late 2022 since I was too busy IRL, occasionally watched clips or checked reddit for any big news.

Returned to watching streams after hearing about VSaikyo since esports tournaments are a guilty pleasure of mine. Mainly watched Selen since keeping up with one vtuber eats up enough of my time, sadly.

After the termination, I've mainly been watching Doki, Mint and Michi, with a side of Hololive for music content (Suisei in particular).

I started from 2019 when Vtubing putting ID on their brand, and yes it was Niji first, but ended with Holo ID. I mean I know Kizuna Ai back then, but I thought she was 'exceptional' kind of youtuber before I know that it was becoming a trend.

u/SharkStarkVT avatar

Been watching VTubers since 2017 / 2018

u/double_rainbows2020 avatar

started in september last year, but i was already a clip watcher before then.

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Covid lockdown had lots of folks out of school/working from home. Lots of extra screen time lead to vtuber clips going viral and an explosion in viewership in the industry. It's what set up HoloMyth to go absolutely fucking bonkers.

Three clips caught my attention: Miko's stay home, (May 2020), Miko's gamer word (June 2020), and Pikamee and Tomoshika's Kill da ho (July 2020). I had seen bits of Kazuna Ai before the boom but never really understood what it was or if it would stick around.

u/ltsc1980 avatar

Since 2019, Shitennou(Ai/Akari/Siro/Luna/Nekomasu) era

u/omrmajeed avatar

Started late 2022. I knew what vtubers were but was never interested until I saw Pomu's MGS streams and got hooked. Pomu was the first vtuber I started watching regularly, then Selen, then Elira, Enna, Millie, Reimu, Rosemi. Around Selen's termination I was watching Pomu, Elira, Reimu, Rosemi and Victoria.

Now I watch Doki, Mint and lots of other indies. No Niji but occasionally watch Holo.

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Irys first FFXIV stream...

Edit: scratch that, it was her doom one lol (to be more specific just doom highlight), then holo-council and ethyria then deep dive after irys FFXIV stream lol

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With the mentality of "watching vtubers properly", March 2020, saw Matsuri's band-aid clip and the rest is history.

Without it, I was a casual viewer of Kizuna Ai from 2018 I think, but after that I stumbled upon Aqua's Da da da Tenshi cover in late 2019 and I remember listening to it non-stop unaware of her being a Vtuber, and that would be my first interaction with modern vtubing as a whole.

Man it has been years, now I feel old.

Since around last November. December if you don’t count shorts

u/Lhyanne- avatar

Suisei was 25k

u/Hoshino_Aoi_ avatar

Knew of it since Kizuna Ai was still in her early career days so around err 7 years ago?
Casually consuming her clips and a few other back then like Hime Hina, Mirai Akari, Kaguya Luna, etc. I don't remember the specific timeline but generally these 3 things happened back then that hooked me in more than just casual:

  • Hololive collab with Azur Lane which then spawn bunches of clips

  • Shizuka Rin appeared on Pewdiepie's video

  • Saw the GunKan collab and the amount of time both of them and Rin streamed back then

Very wild time, was a fan of HNST, from 774.inc. the group which Patra was part of, but I pretty much just consume all vtuber contents regardless of which company they were. That slowly change after Shougetsu Eli from HNST graduated and I slowly drift away from HNST. Still love their songs tho. I think I was also interested in a semi-vtuber idol group called 22/7 at the time, they are under Sony btw.

As for Niji and Holo, I think around that time I was more hooked on Niji than Holo, both were still very casual level. Mainly cause of people like Rin who stream long game and chill vibe enough for me to fall asleep to, Rindou Mikoto cause I love the way she talk and her visual and ASMR. Gundou and Kanda banter, hence GunKan. Chima's shenanigans with Freesia. Himawari, Roa, Ange, Lise, Belmond, Kuroi Shiba, Suzuhara Lulu, etc.

Then all that changed, when Hololive 4th gen debut, Kiryu Coco, the one person who changed Vtubing industry forever. And now I'm more of a Hololive fan than Niji. I still consume Niji content at that time, but it start dwindle when more and more graduation from Niji side happening.

Gibara quitting not long after her new outfit debut, Kudo Chitose graduated, Meiro and Roa case which lead to both gone, Mayuzumi Kai graduated, Melissa graduation, Lulu graduation, etc. And there are some who decided to quit after saying that Niji's new direction isn't what they aimed for. Well I guess we now know what that new direction is.

At the time, the idea that graduation just means they change their workplace or something was very rare, usually graduation were closely associate with "stop Vtubing all together", you usually won't be able to find traces of graduated vtuber so easily back then. So it was very hurt back then to see the white paper with black text notice. Now? Not really.

tl;dr: Was there since early days and jump around from Kizuna Ai to HNST, Animare, Niji, 22/7 and finally stopped at Holo.

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Started watching clips and small part of streams late 2019. Mostly Miko and Himawari. Beginning of 2020 Pikamee debut and she was the first vtuber watched from stream to stream.

Lot people I watched after like Mint, Mocco, Lyrica were those who interacted with Pikamee often.

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Technically I’ve been watching Vtubers since Kizuna Ai was a thing, but I didn’t “really” get into the actual Vtuber scene until holomyth debuted.

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2020

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It's all start around 2020/21 for me.

I stumbled across some clips of Mika in July 2023. Fully got into watching streams and vods around October 2023

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Since Kizuna Ai was relatively new, before her famous playthrough of Evil Within (way before the Kizuna trifecta that led to one of the big controversies of Kizuna Ai) and before Vtubing really kicked off, IIRC in that timeframe DDLC was popular and not-gura was making some good shitpost covers

I discovered vtubers around November 2022

Actually, it was this whole fiasco that led me to watching Vtubers this year. It’s crazy, but one turn led to another and I’m falling down the Hololive Rabbit Hole lol

I wasn’t invested on Vtubers only four months ago. Then I watched a documentary on Selen. Then I watched some more videos. And that led me to Hololive. And here I am.

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I've been watching vtubers since I think 2021 cause a friend of mind became one, and I started watching her, I then started watching others

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Vaguely knew about Kizuna AI before, but I got into Vtubers by clips of Hololive and Nijisanji in Feb 2020, when they started to pick up steam in the West. So slighty over four years.

Feel weird to think that there was a time where there wasn't HoloEN or NijiEN.

I started watching from kiryu coco those asacoco days good times.

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Started with some kizuna AI from her early days (before she had a crap-ton of voice actresses) then towards Projekt Melody before V-Shojo was made, that was 8 years ago. nowadays, I mostly flock to hololive and a few phase connect vtubers.

All the way from the first blue dummy who get commission for a songs for a certain popular ethot who sell bath water, Belle Delphine

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I got into vtubers when a certain blue-haired definitely not lewd vtuber made a stir on the internet around Feb-Mar of 2020 and some commentary channels I follow reported on her.

Then Hololive EN debuted with Myth in September later that year. That definitely made me a real vtuber fan.

In early 2021 I found Pomu Rainpuff and Nijisanji EN. I fell in and out of watching others but Pomu firmly remained my favorite to this day, despite the fact she's a ghost now.

I didn't follow Selen that closely but I loved her energy and her collaborations with Pomu were always top-tier.

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Guess my first exposure with a "vtuber" was annoying orange, although you can hardly call it the same. Had some encounters with Kizuna AI in the rarly days but that didn't really stick because of the language barrier and my dislike for subtitles. I had been watching Nyanners to and from before she was a vtuber so I eventually found out she now was, which is when at some point Ironmouse popped up along with Hololive JP branch.

Eventually the EN branch came out and Gura stuck with me, especially after figuring out how much her pl overlapped. But the vtuber who somehow stood about them all that I would call my favorite other than Gura, ended up being Shylily, although it started through watching clips. Most of the vtubers I watch I watched through yt videos. I was aware of most of the Vshojo members before they were Vshojo and discovered phase connect and idol en too. Had a small encounter with Paws as well before knowing she also plays Path of Exile, more than me surprisingly so that was interesting.

There are just so many at this point but I was here since the beginning.

Edit: okay so now what? Why did I get downvoted for this?

2017 with Kizuna Ai. 2019 for Hololive, before 3rd Gen debut but mostly via clipper likes hololive moments. That clipper before they downfall. I watch mostly Pekora and Miko. Still watch them till today but not so much due to other commitment.