I had no interest in running DC until Peter decided to do it with me so he could do the exec stuff & I could focus on creative, when I was hired to write Superman it was always intended as & pitched as a new Superman story so why would I lie about not planning that at the Squad premiere (James Gunn) : r/DCULeaks Skip to main content

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I had no interest in running DC until Peter decided to do it with me so he could do the exec stuff & I could focus on creative, when I was hired to write Superman it was always intended as & pitched as a new Superman story so why would I lie about not planning that at the Squad premiere (James Gunn)

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u/DaKingSinbad avatar

Thought so. People were saying "how can he work on Superman and Peacemaker while being CO-CEO". 🙄

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I'm curious about how the overlapping Superman and Peacemaker schedules work. Someone asked him either today or yesterday which he was working on, and he said that he was editing the former.

He did season 1 at the same time as guardians 3 I believe so I can't imagine it'll make too much of a difference

I'm not sure how true that is, they were pretty close for sure but they were shooting the Holiday Special simultaneously with the movie

Outside of maybe a street and Kevin Bacon's house, the sets and some background characters were re-used in both so I wouldn't be surprised if Peacemaker had scenes that are in Metropolis or areas Lex & Engineer will be in the movie. 

 It'll be neat to see if Peacemaker and Superman tie together, even if it's just through Easter eggs and in-jokes or something since Gunn is involved in both.

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u/Visible_Froyo5499 avatar

I think a good Superman movie will quiet down a lot of the ‘gotcha’ attempts. I am rooting for Gunn to pull it off.

u/Emergency-Bag1405 avatar

He’ll smash it out the park I’m sure.

u/Chip_Chip_Cheep avatar

If you talk about universal acclaim, it certainly has an easy time since MOS never achieved this.

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u/Darknightsmetal022 avatar

I’m pretty sure he’s said that he had no intention of doing it alone and he only said said because he was doing it with Safran before so I don’t really get why people are calling him out over this again but that’s the internet for you I suppose.

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u/Revolutionary_Elk339 avatar

Snyder was never the head of DC Films. That was Geoff Johns and Jon Berg. Snyder was the architect or rather the Chief Creative Officer for the DCEU. He never officially had a title but to your point, it's mostly Snyder's hashtag fanboys who can't cope with reality.

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Well, if we really wanna be exact, Gunn and Safran are the first co heads of DC Studios. The division did exist before last fall but it was called DC Films ran by Walter Hamada. A rebrand was done after Gunn and Safran signed on (from Films to Studios and adding DC TV and animation under the same studio roof) which was the right call.

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I swear I see “Snyder fans” brought up in every DC sub but I’ve yet to see any in years. Is this a chronically online thing? I forget they exist until a sub starts randomly complaining about them.

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The ones on dc cinematic get downvoted so I really fail to see an issue here.

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I'm a mod at r/<large fan community with significant overlap of Snyder films>, and yes, they absolutely exist. Which, to be fair, "Snyder fans" are totally fine. Come, talk about the movies you like, you're fans too so you're as welcome as anyone... but man some of them are really, really intense. A lot of them don't make it past our AutoMod filters, and if that's the case with other communities then it might explain why you don't see many of them.

u/Competitive_Charm098 avatar

Most of the stuff online is just a small vocal minority that barely exists in real life, so yes.

u/Chip_Chip_Cheep avatar

It is a small vocal minority that still remains noisy , it's no different than three little kids at a party making a mess to get attention or some rioter outside the streets announcing the end of the world.

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u/Chip_Chip_Cheep avatar

Did you forget that Twitter and DC Cinematic is still a thing for the Snyder cult?  And if they are mentioned it is because there is no other fandom that wants more than Gunn and Safran to fail with their plans to build DC Studios.

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Can someone explain to me what is so special about Henry Cavill and Zack Snyder that warrants all of this daily drama from their fanbase?

General audiences rejected Henry Cavill’s interpretation of Superman. General audiences rejected Snyder’s films. They got millions of dollars to essentially write fanfiction and THEN got even more to finish their 4-hour dreary vision.

I feel like I’m in the twilight zone. Are people seriously that married to Amy Adams horrible portrayal as Lois Lane? Or Jesse Eisenberg’s aspergers Lex? Or is it just fanboys not knowing how to deal with their homoerotic obsession with Cavill? I need answers people.

Truth be told, even the majority of fans who did like Snyder and the DCEU have moved on. The only people remaining are Twitter grifters and loud loser fanboys who exist in every major fandoms. It's best to ignore their existence, as everyone else already has.

u/Admirable-Life2647 avatar

Not just Twitter grifters but YouTubers as well like Mr H Reviews, who all seem to have a man crush with Henry Cavill.

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u/Apprehensive_Fig8087 avatar

If you give a mouse a cookie...

u/ConroyBat1985 avatar

its crazy. And cavill is not even close to being the star that that group thinks he is. He is coming off two flops where no one went and saw films where he was the lead. His last two movies combined opened the same as Blue beetle. And that movie has a young actor from netflix as the lead.

u/LocomotiveStopper avatar

Cavill was picture perfect as Superman, which overrides everything else in a lot of fanboy minds.

Can't really explain the Snyder stuff.

Some people actually liked (not me) Zack Snyder's vision. I think other people think that there could have been course correction (again not me). Others I think just think both of them got a raw deal with the family stuff that happened to Snyder and Cavil only really getting three movies to portray Superman (which I think was more than enough for people decide they didn't like it) either way it's over and let's see what Gunn does.

u/Admirable-Life2647 avatar

Apparently anyone who might be doing a Superman movie is somehow obligated to use Henry Cavill when general audiences as you said rejected his Superman, the mind has been so warped with these people and their perception of reality, their man crush of Cavill might be a mental health issue, I don't get I really don't.

u/Matfin93 avatar

I think more people have come to realise Man of Steel was a great film these days (I think genuinely an underrated movie).

BVS deserved criticism, but the ultimate cut wasn't bad.

My problem with the old DCEU is what a mess it all was, I actually didn't mind Zacks outputs, but everything else was so rushed and messy.

I'll miss Cavils superman, as i feel if that universe had time to grow instead of being forced to compete with Marvel, it could have been genuinely good. but I'm excited for what's coming next, a reboot is definitely needed

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hasn't he talked about that arrangement since the start? I swear that was the whole point of the initiail messagin

These people are so f*cking weird!

DC fans were lied to, as was Cavill, no question, it just wasn’t Gunn who did it. Unfortunately, David Zaslav is a spineless, gutless coward and won’t address fans directly so Gunn takes the heat.

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Cavill was told by the studio, which was headed by Zaslav, that he was returning and that he should share this with fans. 2-months later, he was out. Change of plans may be the case, but that doesn’t negate what Cavill and fans were told. Separately, Black Adam made more money than any other recent DC movie by over $100million without a release in China. Also, I don’t understand why this matters - it may factor into the decisions that were made, but simply stating this information as you have done here doesn’t change the facts. I’m not bashing Gunn, if anything I’m supporting him, so I don’t understand the negativity.

u/Mr_smith1466 avatar

No one was lied to. Including cavill. Black Adam was a critical and commercial bomb. 

They knew it was a bomb when they asked him to appear at the end of it?

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No, when he made the cameo, his return after that was contingent entirely upon how black Adam was received. Black Adam did poorly, both critically and commercially. So cavill went down with the ship.

That's how it always works. Post credit scenes aren't guarantees, they're connected to how the movie is recieved.

Ask Harry Styles what his next marvel movie is after his Eternals cameo scene.

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And yet Harry Styles has a better chance of returning than Henry Cavill had.

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Of course they didn't. But it happened and they kicked the rock and Cavill out. So your point is?

Can you really not discern the point from that conversation? I can't help you if not

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u/Chip_Chip_Cheep avatar

I wouldn't even say that Zaslav, those who gave the green light to The Rock with Cavill were De Luca and Abdy 

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u/EDanielGarnica avatar

No one, and I mean it, no one expecting an explanation about Nathan's words deserve any kind of explanation.

Snyder, Ayer, Jenkins, Hamada, etc. are busy WORKING, they're not waiting for Gunn's explanation.

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And when you have a fandom that tries to take an actor's words out of context in order to misinform and lie, what are you doing? Stay silent? Don't act like Gunn doesn't have time in his schedule to interact on social media. 

Of those you mention, only Hamada does not have social media and is the only one with an important position in a film studio (Paramount).

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That's not anyone's responsibility, and if you think it is, you're not different than those guys.

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Coming from someone who is a regular at DC Cinematic (the sanctuary of the cult) I shouldn't be surprised by such a response, If it bothers you that Gunn doesn't let the Snyderites get their way, that just speaks ill of you.

Someone said it on Twitter years ago, if there are Snyder fans who, knowing that their fandom is rotten and there are black sheep, and yet they do not dare to denounce or point them out, it only makes them equally complicit.

If Snyder is not going to take responsibility for his cult just because of the pathetic resentment he has towards WB just because they fired him from the franchise, then Gunn will have to face any nonsense they do, Before him, there was a lot of misinformation about DC Films and it was common for the brand to be the target of clickbaits., currently this is being reduced which is obviously a burden for habitual charlatans who profited from Snyder's fandom like Grace Randolph's succubus or ScreenRant (which is Snyder's propaganda site).

So yes, Gunn coming out to clarify this and many other things is the best thing that could have happened to DC since there is more transparency about it.

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Dude, I don't care.

I even got downvoted in my OG comment, and I was clearly defending Gunn.

Again, you're saying stuff about me just because you don't like Snyder, and I don't dislike him... man, that's just weird, really.

The fandom is sick, from both sides.

Again, I don't care.

I just love DC, and that's it.

PS: By the way, Snyder was fired in the middle of a family tragedy, there's nothing "pathetic" in any kind of resentment born out of that kind of situation. What am I saying, he was not just fired they even lied saying that he himself chose Whedon as his replacement...

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"No one"
You would be surprised that how some Snyder fans are spreading rumours and saying that Gunn lied because of Nathan Fillion's statement on twitter and youtube. So of course Gunn clarified the situation instead of letting the hate grow.

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