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i7 9700K or i9 9900k for my next build?
Hey all, first post here.
What CPU should I get for my gaming PC? The i7 9700K or the i9 9900k? I'm finally upgrading from my i7 3770K build but I'm not sure what to get. Losing hyper-treading, will that impact performance a lot? I already own a GTX 1080 SC so the GPU isn't changing. Here is what I have chosen so far:
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CPU: Intel iX 9X00K ?
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Mobo: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero
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RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200
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GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 SC
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SSD: Samsung 970 EVO M.2 250GB SSD
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HDD: 2x WD Black 4TB
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PSU: EVGA Supernova 650 G1+, 80 Plus Gold
Personally when I build systems I don't like a compromise that could lead to regret at a future date. I went with the 9900k. If you're considering it already, then you likely can afford it, so why not? it WILL perform better than the 9700k in literally anything that takes more than 8 threads and it will be relevant for much longer as a result.
What's your budget?
Basic rule is, buy as much CPU as you can afford.
If you're going to spend $400 + another $200 on a decent motherboard, you might as well drop the extra $100 and get the 9900K.
It's faster for productivity stuff for sure. It won't make much difference in games for a while, and in fact gaming is actually running faster with HT disabled at the moment (since it's affecting max OCs by 100-200 MHz)... but if nothing else it is a better shot at a high-binned 9700K, with an extra 4 MB of cache.
Just gaming? 9700K
9700k will be fast at games for 4 years and 9900k will be fast for 5 years, that's the kind of difference you're looking at. there is no difference today and maybe for 3 more years
I have almost the same build as you're planning, and I decided to go for a 9900k instead of a 9700k because my earlier chip (3570) was a locked i5. That plus the lack of HT really screwed me over years later.
Even if HT doesn't give you much extra performance in practice (30% of a core at best) it's still really helpful for anything that just needs a couple % to run and go back to sleep, like VoIP.
What's another $100?
Here in Canada, the 9700K is $529 + tax and the 9900K is $689 + tax.
Just wait and get a deal on it. I paid way less than retail for mine. There's plenty of retailers and it's the holiday season. Shop around.
have you looked at the 8700k w/ asus maximus code/hero-it will save a bit and you have better vrm im pretty sure and its less than 5% preformance drop
While that is a good option. Isn't that kinda going backwards if he's inquiring about a 9900k?
ig... i would honestly wait until ryzen gen 3 is out that will be insane if the leaks are even half true (if you can wait that long)
I'd say the samem wait for AMD.
I know some games like Prey use probably up to 16 threads so basically a stock 9900k would demolish a stock 9700k in a game like that at the same clocks but most games don't need more than 8 cores but in the future if games start acting like prey well your screwing yourself in performance. Also some games don't like no hyper threading like Far Cry 5 (stutter fest with 6 and 8 core only cpu's) compared to enabling hyper threading. Also remember the 9700k are lesser binned 9900k with no hyper threading and less cache meaning more voltage will be required for higher clocks basically lower OC headroom, personally just get the 9900k and be done with it.
And see, this is why you look at the benchmarks instead of assuming, because that's not the case at all. Assuming makes an ASS of U and ME ;)
Games "using 12 threads" usually doesn't mean "fully saturates 6 cores". You don't need to go 1:1 threads-to-virtual-cores, the system can handle a reasonable amount of timesharing to allow more threads than cores, although this is not the most efficient way to do it (hyperthreading makes this more efficient since you don't have to stop the whole core to context-switch, you can run one thread while the other is context-switching. But yes, sooner or later, as we get more CPU intensive games, the 9900K will pull away, because it can run say 24 threads on its 16 virtual cores, vs the 9700K only being able to run say 16 threads on its 8 virtual cores.
see also: running discord/music/etc. That stuff doesn't need a virtual core each, they can happily run in the 10-20% left over on the other virtual cores that aren't fully saturated by their threads