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In Ad Astra (2019), the photo used for Tommy Lee Jones from years ago is a photo from his 2000 movie Space Cowboys, with a few logos changed.
Fun Fact: Tommy Lee Jones was younger* at the time of release of Space Cowboys (54) than Brad Pitt was for the release of Ad Astra (55).
Tommy Lee Jones is up there with Wilford Brimley for most career time spent playing old man roles.
Danny Glover and Morgan Freeman would like a word with you...
Danny Glover was about 40 yrs old filming Lethal Weapon. Huh
I'm 43. I've definitely been too old for this shit for at least 3 years.
DRINK!
I am 39 years old (today), and maybe it because I haven’t played a hardened cop all my life, but I seriously don’t think I look as old as Danny Glover did in Lethal Weapon
Happy Birthday, do something just for you today! You survived another year, and that deserves a treat.
Happy Actual Cake Day, grab ya some actual cake later k?
What aged Glover in lethal weapon was the mustache and 80s fashion.
Wait... but I'm 40... the hell?!
Well Reddit considers 25 old, so....
Back in the day when you could retire around 50.
He’s getting too old for this shit
Maggie Smith for actresses. She was an old woman in Hook, 30 years ago.
it gets better, she kinda of an old woman in the Prime of Jean Brodie, when in reality she is 34. It is the first film she got an Oscar nod, always seems like it might been her first big movie but I could be wrong, she did a few before that
Add Dean Harris (Hank from Breaking Bad) to the mix. In Starship Troopers he played a sergeant. He was 33 but already looked middle aged.
Dean Norris*
You’re goddamn right.
Bruh Leslie Nielsen was born old
Not true! He was quite a looker as a young man and was in classics like the Forbidden Planet!
Ha, no one remembers his dramatic roles
Was younger i guess.
You mean, he's not younger now???
always has been
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What is it with Tommy Lee Jones and crazy space adventures?
Well he was roommates with Al Gore at Harvard. So... that's irrelevant to your question.
I have ridden the great moon worm!
That was fun.
I held both arms up the entire time
Always has been
Why did he look so damn old?
heavy tobacco and alcohol use as well as being in the sun for years and years?
You legit could be talking about Pitt hahah
Indeed. The guy admitted to an alcohol problem, didn’t he? And he used to be a smoker too.
Brad is a fucking pretty boy.
Just super good looking genes. Nothing to do with abuse.
He got them city miles on him.
Hugh Hefner's third wife was younger when Schindler's List was in theaters than Hugh was when Schindler's List was actually made.
It took me a quite while to understand your post.
I had to have a coffee just to work it out. Hugh Hefner was born in 1926. Oscar Schindler was employing Jews in 1944 and onwards (Hugh was 18). The movie came out it 1993, and Crystal Hefner was born in 1986, i.e she was 7 when the movie came out.
Thank God you explained that. I would have just purged my memory of the above comments otherwise.
TIL Brad Pitt is 55, holy shit.
56 now
He was 40 when playing Achilles in Troy
That's actually a really interesting fact.
Just watched this movie for like the 5th time. Great find. I sort of recognized that picture of him. Also Donald Sutherland was in space cowboys.
Yeah but tommy Lee Jones has always looked 54 though
So he's the same age here, as Brad pitt is now
You are telling me that brad pitt is now 56? Wtf i always tought he is way younger
This fact is far more fun than Ad Astra was.
I didn't believe this at first because the first thing I remember him in was Lonesome Dove, and he looked old as shit in that. Looked it up, and he was only 43. Holy fuck. That man has apparently always looked old.
Younger?
You're telling me Brad Pitt was fuckin' 40 in Troy? I thought he was like 22, so fucking shredded. God I'm a slob.
Watching Space Cowboys is hilarious when you realize the main characters are faking the effect of weightlessness while in space.
Ad Astra doesn't even bother faking it. No physics exists in this POS.
Remember at the end when he's returning to his spaceship, they make a big deal about his trajectory, and then halfway through floating back he throws away the huge piece of metal he was using as a shield, and it moves away but his trajectory doesn't change!? Why did that scene exist?
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actually, the physics are quite right in that scene, here's an explanation from a nasa engineer:
She is decelerating because her leg is caught up in the parachute cords from the Soyuz. If we imagine the parachute cords are a rubber band, what would happen? The band would stretch and the energy needed to stretch it would be taken from Ryan. She has a kinetic energy equal to half her mass times her velocity squared. Her mass can't change, so her velocity would go down.
Now, what affect does Kowalski have on the situation? There is no force acting on him. But he too has a kinetic energy equal to half his mass times his velocity squared. So, if the rubber band is to slow Ryan to a stop it also has to slow Kowalski. So now it has to absorb her energy and his energy. Kowalski's interpretation of the situation is that the parachute cords can't absorb that much energy. So, he figures that if he lets go of her hand, the parachute cords, instead of absorbing Ryan's kinetic energy AND his kinetic energy, will only have to absorb Ryan's kinetic energy.
I think he's saying a tug on Clooney would counter some of his kinetic energy.
Yes, but it would still have to be absorbed by the parachute as well.
Maybe the parachute could had taken that kinetic energy, but Clooney’s character either didn’t know it or didn’t want to risk it.
I refuse to believe that a NASA engineer doesn't know the difference between "affect" and "effect"
They’re and engineer not a languager
Not the ‘let’s use a nuclear blast as fuel to send us home’ moment?
That's a viable theory of propelling spacecraft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion?wprov=sfla1
It's a real thing, but it is not at all what the ship in Ad Astra was designed to do. It was basically the equivalent of putting an entire Saturn V next to a nuclear bomb and expecting it to bring it back to earth, perfectly sound.
How dare you dismiss the Orion program so readily.
When that happened in the movie, I was just like:
"Well, well, well. Is this an Orion reference?! 'Cause it better be an Orion reference."
The scene where he climbs on to the rocket is by far one of the worst, it was actually amazing how many things were just plain wrong.
I couldn't help myself from laughing at literally every "technical" detail in this film. The scene early on in the movie where the giant antenna is falling apart (why this giant antenna exists is never explained, or why it has to be this large) and Brad Pitt just pulls a comically oversized lever labeled "High Voltage" to stop it, it was so silly.
Also, the moon battle scene. Everyone's driving lunar buggies like on Apollo 15, 16, and 17. No pressurization, no armor, just an almost completely bare chassis with wheels. I think they tried to explain this away by saying that it was hard to get materials to the moon... but then later on they show a buggy on Mars that is fully enclosed, pressurized, just about everything the buggies on the Moon aren't.
Also, I forget the name of his ship, but the fact that it had solar panels which appeared to be fixed perpendicular to the main axis of the rocket, at 120 degree angles was hilarious. If one of them were to be pointed directly at a light source, the one other ones would be just barely pointing towards it, and the last one would be completely in shadow.
That's not all of them, just what I can remember off the top of my head. I can't list everything amazingly awful about this movie, but man do I want to try.
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It's almost like films are some kind of...art, and not tedious nerd porn. Ridiculous I know.
The moon pirates probably weren't expecting a fight and the protagonists were trying to be low profile.
Those were radiators, not solar panels
It was almost like they decided to do the reverse of Interstellar, which tried to do everything right (and largely succeeded).
Some people call him the Space Cowboy
some call him the gangster of love
womp woomp
Cause I speak of the pompitous of loove
what
sussultante säännönmukainen
Sususudio
I hear some people call him More Reese
Some people call him Maurice
WEEP WEEOW
Lol best part of the song
I never time it right though because I get too excited.
Maurice sound
'Cause he speaks of the pompatus of earth
Some call him the gangster of love?
Hello
We are not worthy!
Some people call him Spike
Some people call him Agent K
guys in the band: Steve, shut the fuck up. Literally no one has called you that.
He’s gonna carry that weight.
There's a heavy, emotional scene toward the end of this movie that required Brad Pitt to cry unprompted, which he managed to do without issue. But as the scene takes place inside a space ship in zero-gravity, Pitt told director James Gray that the tear should be edited in post to bubble off his face, rather than run down his cheek.
Pitt insisted this is not how gravity would work in these circumstances but Gray replied, “Sorry, I’m keeping it. The acting’s too good, buddy.”
was that the only emotion he showed through the movie? I have never related to a lead character less
edit: my opinion. I’m not saying no one related to Pitt’s character, I just personally didn’t and that made it hard to get anything out of viewing it apart from the stunning visuals
I find myself to be relatively emotionally stunted, so I actually was able to relate to the feelings and thoughts of Pitt's character quite closely. And it was baked into his character arc from the very beginning, as it was one of the main issues with his relationship with his wife and was a character flaw called upon a lot in just about every instance of conflict.
I think Pitt did a pretty decent job given the nature of the film, and I thought he was able to communicate a lot through subtle means throughout the movie.
Yea he actually shows more and more emotion as the movie progresses. It’s just very subtle.
Also he ended up more and more isolated. It wasn't really a character movie, the entire production was about isolation and lack of connection and what it does to ... living things.
Except for the space baboon scenes that was just some producer injected action malarkey I'd bet.
Except for the space baboon scenes that was just some producer injected action malarkey I'd bet.
Well, whatever producer came up with it deserves a good handjob.
I always interpreted the baboon scene to be a reinforcement of Pitt's natural instincts. He was a self-centered, "mission focused" macho lead - and as a result saw no need to render aid to the may-day call. Once things went south and the original mission came into jeopardy it forced him deeper into his ways just before making contact with his father.
While it wasn't integral to the plot or his character formation and was certainly worked in as a means to inject the film with some action/thriller elements, it wasn't entirely wasted either.
fair enough. For me it was a story about a guy who's troubled relationship with his father left him with emotional holes and issues in the relationships he tries to create. I related to that a lot.
You may not relate* to it, but his stunted emotion is a facet of his character. It's displayed throughout the movie through his heart rate monitor. His relative calm and cold makes his eventual breakdown more powerful.
the point
I found the movie incredibly depressing on all angles.
There's a heavy, emotional scene toward the end of this movie that required Brad Pitt to cry unprompted
Not to be pedantic...but if he was required to do it, doesn't that mean he was, in fact, prompted to do it?
Galaxy brain over here
Idk if you're being funny, but the character was unprompted while the actor was directed to do so
but how did they manage to keep it a secret from the character
Movie magic
Sad Astra
On a long overnight flight I took a Xanax, don’t remember much, slept a ton. On the return flight I didn’t have anymore Xanax so I decided to watch Ad Astra, being a huge sci-fi fan. My SO tapped my shoulder after I started it, asked “why are you watching that again? You said you hated it and told me how much it’s sucked for like ten minutes on the last flight”
Apparently I watched it high and hated it, but I don’t remember anything about the movie. Probably will never watch again, I trust Xanax me.
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Sad Dadstra
My dad and I went to see it thinking it would be a great sci-fi pic 😕
dad astra
Sad Bradstra
YES THIS EXACTLY. I spent the whole movie rolling my eyes and muttering ‘just get some fucking therapy already’ under me breath.
All of the main plot points would make KILLER episodes for a miniseries or twilight zone esque show. Giant space antenna collapsing? Dope. That whole moon pirate shootout scene? AWESOME. The monkey incident? Weird but still scary. The scene on mars? Less exciting than the monkeys but still interesting. Talking to dad? finale.
Really? Do you mean that the trailer misrepresents it as a cool scifi film?
If so, that's another point for me to add to why I don't watch trailers. I went into the movie blind and thought it was a charming character drama with a coolass backdrop (scifi). I came out of it feeling like it was a really good film.
I went to see it on vacation with a buddy. It was a bro trip, we were going to Oktoberfest and spent a lot of time in bars along the way. In one of them we saw a movie poster for Ad Adstra. Neither one of us had heard of the movie, but the poster had a gunfight on moon rovers. He and I always liked watching bad action movies together, and we kept laughing about how ludicrous this image was, so I picked up tickets for a screening we could hit on the trip.
Needless to say, it was not the mindless action movie we expected. I really liked the movie, but I felt bad knowing it wasn't up my friend's alley. We ended up watching Once Upon a Time in Hollywood the next night and the two of us still crack jokes about that movie today.
But even rewatching it knowing it's a drama, it's still not interesting. It's not easy to give a shit about any of the characters.
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I think they were going for Apocalypse Now in space. Kinda follows the same beats.
ALSO MOON PIRATES
Moon pirates?! What about Norwegian evil space monkeys!
I have rarely been more confused than I was at the monkey reveal
"A fuckin' space monkey?"
"Crazy Swedes..."
"They're Norwegian, Mac!"
Ad Astra and Apocalypse both draw heavily from Heart of Darkness, that's why.
Say anything you want about this movie, but that scene was fuckin awesome.
Watching it in Dolby was awesome
There were a lot of plot threads that just felt like they go nowhere. It definitely feels like a movie where the writing got a little too ambitious and had to come back down to Earth after filming started.
Yeah but space monkeys
Well it was released by 20th Century Fox right after they’d been bought by Disney. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Disney mandated a more upbeat ending
Ad Astra
It lost me when he straight up MURDERED 3 people.
The idiotic part getting through the rings to the spaceship, as I recall, was beyond the suspension of disbelief even for such a movie.
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If that was the tagline for a sci-fi movie, I’d watch it.
Oh my god that entire scene actually fucking killed me. I was trying my best not to laugh in a full theater.
I specifically remember that one of the crewmembers dies from falling on their head or something, but the way it's depicted is absolutely insane. The rocket is ascending (which means the crew is experiencing positive g's) and yet everybody gets out of their seats to shoot him. They're all floating fine (despite experiencing constant acceleration) until stage separation (when the rocket would be experiencing no acceleration, zero g's) and then suddenly everybody falls to the back of the rocket and one of them hits their head and dies.
Just about every scene in that movie was like that for me. Nothing about it really made sense, it was clearly trying to be realistic in the same sense as The Martian but didn't come anywhere close to it.
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Even as a story, I think it's fair to fault it because the director kept claiming he was making "The most realistic depiction of space travel in a movie"
He later said that that he regretted saying that, but come on, he totally embarrassed himself. He clearly didn't have even a basic understanding of physics and apparently didn't make much of an effort to learn.
It's such a terrible movie, nothing makes sense. Why couldn't they have just sent the message to mars and have them relay it? Why did they need to physically send Brad Pitt there? Why would they send his dad's 80 year old best friend to be Pitt's handler? If the handler was so close to having a heart attack how did he pass his physical to go to the moon and presumably Mars? Why did the Mars administrator go out of her way to make sure Pitt's on that ship? Wouldn't she think he might be a little biased? And don't get me started on the Three Stooges slapstick death scene...
Tommy Lee Jones is pretty perfect casting as Brad Pitts dad. The only casting that would have been better would be Robert Redford, but he’s sort-of retired so I get why they didn’t cast him.
its probably from the same photoshoot
but its not the same picture used
Those two photos aren’t the same. He’s standing differently, and he has a different expression on his face
Crazy I had to scroll down this far to find this. Also his hair is different and the nozzle thing at the bottom right is at a different angle. Also some of the creases in the suit don’t match up. Not to mention the lighting is completely different. Doesn’t take a lot of thought to realize they’re not the sane image
I would just want to know where the younger photos for any character in any movie or TV show come from. They are always the most interesting thing to me.
Usually its a photo of their face at a younger age photoshopped onto a model that has roughly the same shape.
For her appearance in Rouge One, they used an actress that already looked like Carrie Fischer, so the superimposing of her face would look more natural.
This movie could've been so much more. Quite a letdown. Looks nice, though.
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Sunshine is one of the greatest sci-fi movies made in the 21st Century. Fight me.
I suppose that's a legit criticism of Sunshine, but still did enjoy it all for what it was.
That movie came out 13 years ago, and I’m still upset about that. It could’ve been a modern classic.
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It’s a weird contradiction for me: I felt like it was mostly a waste of my time and money, yet I’m simultaneously glad I sprung the extra money to see it in IMAX, bc I at least got to experience the spectacle of it.
Wow I feel like I am in the minority along with a few others but I really liked this movie , I guess people were expecting a sci-fi epic but in reality the story was about someone trying to come to terms with the relationship with his father, I really thought Brad Pitt going across the entire galaxy just to get closure and only to let go in the backdrop of Neptune was so sad to me. I don’t know, I really liked it
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Same here! I loved it! The only things that bothered me were some huge scientific inconsistencies and a few plot problems but that's really it!
I think the premise of the father-son dilemma and the conclusion that humanity spends so much on ultimately pointless endeavours is really interesting but imo the movie was garbage.
The pacing was very off and the movie was little more than confusing and/or pointless scenes strung together. Let me explain:
Bradd pitt has to go to the moon to rescue his father. Okay, sure. Nice. He has to land on the close side of the moon and take a buggy to the secure launch site on the other side for opsec reasons. Uuuuuuh sure.
There is an ongoing war over the moon, sure interesting plot element. Que moon pirates that try to kill Pitt and company for what reasons? Weird. Pitt then goes to Mars and every plot line until then is abandoned
On the way to Mars they pick up a distress signal from a space station and decide to check it out despite being on a top secret mission. Onboard said space station is an angry gorilla who proceeds to kill one of the crew members by biting their nose off. They leave and that event is never mentioned again
Mars brings a lot of confusing bureacracy and Pitt can't go with his crew for opsec reasons. Weird. Someone decides to help Pitt get on the spaceship. That entails driving to within some distance of the rocket where Pitt has to cross and underground lake to get to the launch pad. Well there he makes it from below the engines to the cockpit in 10 seconds, an impossibility.
Then they have a shootout and the crew kills themselves, Pitt spends an allegeldy really long time there alone and he meets his father in a sort of tragic but also really confusing scene where nothing is explained and Pitt just returns to earth
IMO it was pure nonsense
Imo one of the most underrated sci-fi movies in the last few years.
Ehh. It has really great cinematography and a cool idea, but the pacing and overall structure is really slow and not very enjoyable in my opinion. It’s nice to look at though (like I said, in my opinion)
Tbh it was more like a stage production, it's like an Ancient Greek play. Like the Odyssey or Othello. Instead of trying to find his way back home or to the Underworld it's space
Yeah stunning to watch, but Dad Astra was a let down beyond that IMO.
An appropriate autocorrect
Not an auto correct, a friend of of mine said it when drunk and it cracked me up.
Sad Brad’s Dad Astra. I liked it though. It was my favorite movie of last year.
It definitely gave me vibes of 70s-80s sci-fi films which I liked a lot
It’s nice to look at though
Well, that and SPACE PIRATES!
And SPACE BABOON
Yeah it’s absolutely a well made and acted film with a few intriguing ideas, but generally not a very entertaining movie with empty payoff. The producer clearly wanted it to be Interstellar... Moon... but it never gets anywhere near those in imagination or substance.
To me it felt like it was trying to be apocalypse now but in space. That being said I still enjoyed the movie. I felt like it was just a few missing pieces away from being a really great movie
imo it sucked ass, the advertising was comically different from the actual movie. I went in expecting a cool sci-fi adventure, and got...
not that
I thought you were taking about Space Cowboys. I enjoyed Space Cowboys, I love sci-fi and watch bad sci-fi (recently: Escape 2121) but Ad Astra was a completely waste of time. Get a therapist, not a space ship.
I always got this mixed up with the nearly identical Space Truckers.
Hey now, everyone knows that Space Truckers is a seminal masterpiece on par with, if not clearly well beyond 2001: A Space Odyssey
By far the best scene was the laser moon race fight thing. Epically cool. Everything else was a waste of time.
Space monkey scene was cool
Also the scene where the crew of the space ship brad is sneaking onto notice he’s there and they all end up killing themselves as he is continuously professing his intent to be peaceful in the background and then he’s just like, well shit.
Do you also watch Drive for the chase scenes by any chance?
No it’s not
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Definitely not the same picture. Same suit with different patches, but not the same picture.
Is ad astra worth watching? Heard very mixed things
You should definitely watch it to form your own opinion, then you can comment in this warzone of a comment section, Visually it's outstanding, really well done. Apart from that, it's pretty forgettable in my opinion.
Watched it last week. Solid description.
Ad Astra was a beautiful movie
Stremio?
I really liked the first half of this movie.
Horrible movie
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