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I see people on here who love kids, but don't want any of their own. I see people on her who hate zombie-fied parents. I see people on here who hate kids. That's what group I'm in. I hate kids.
I may be one of those people who gives CF people a bad rep, but it's just how I feel. I hate kids. I really hate kids. To start, I hate what pregnancy does to the body. It is gross and not natural to me at all. That is my biggest fear when it comes to kids. Then there's birth. Fucking ew. Enough said. Then there are screaming newborns. No way. When I see a newborn/baby in public, I wince. They're gross looking/smelling and are loud. I can't stand them. I have never wanted to hold a baby.
Then they are toddlers. They're learning to walk and everyone is giving them all their attention to watch them walk two feet and then collapse. It's not cute. Walking is a normal thing. Why does everyone oogle about it? Also, they're still loud, learning to talk so they're screaming gibberish all day long, and they are always covered in vomit or food. What the hell?
Then they get older. They learn to talk and everything they say makes me cringe. I hate baby talk. They expect attention because since birth they're had people oogling over them. I'm not doing it. I've seen a meme about always answering a fake/toy phone a toddler hands you, but nope. They should learn early not everyone is going to be at their beck and call.
Then kindergarten age comes. Temper tantrums are rampant, about things that don't even matter. They haven't learned manners yet. Come on.
I know I sound cruel but I feel like everyone here has to say they don't truly hate kids as to not get chastised. I don't care. I hate kids and I hate everything about them. Any time I see one my mood is dampened and I roll my eyes. I know some of you have to agree with me.
Same here. I'm not sure how I'd deal with the 0-8 ages. I don't have much of a temper, but loud noises are one of the few things that can really make me irritated and child shreiks are on top of the irritating loud noise list. That plus the irrationality of young kids would have me in a bad mood fairly frequently.
Loud noises at all bother me because of my suspected sensory processing/suspected autism. I haven't been diagnosed but certain things set me off, especially kids and kid noises. Crying or whining is one thing, but once a kid screams, I gotta get out of there or I'm gonna be screaming too.
Misophonia could be a factor, Aspies seem to have it more often in my experience. One of my trigger sounds is "snagging nylons." Fuck that noise.
For me it's the VERY high pitched squeal, the gurgling sob, and the babbling of attempting to talk. It all makes me want to rip my skin off.
Yup I know exactly what you mean Once when o was going to the doctors for metal health issues there was a crying child in the waiting room. I couldn't just up and leave cause i needed the appointment and the kids would not shut up, and eventually i total snapped and started out screaming the kid. Like i said i was in a bad place mentally and just could not handle it.
One of mine is the weird squeak that some ice cubes make when you chew them. That and the noise of foam egg cartons.
I hate the sound of kids screaming, whining, AND crying. The sounds are awful and I am thrown into sensory overload (I have ADHD-PI), and I end up very angry when I hear that crap. I also hate the other noises kids make sometimes, like smacking their food when eating (makes me angry and want to slap them upside the head though I wouldn’t actually do that). My friend’s toddler recently has taken to banging silverware against plates and the noise enrages me.
Omg for real. I love babies though. Before they’re 2, I’m good. But I get irritated and awkward with loud noises and irrational behavior. Like....the fact that I can’t reason with a child is enough for me to tie my tubes immediately. I understand they won’t understand me trying to reason with them but that doesn’t make it easier at all. I like being in a good mood. I don’t want to be consistently exhausted and mad. That’s not a good combo. Lol
I hate kids like I hate onions- I can ask for them not to be there, but they’re always hidden one way or another. I understand why they’re there, the roles they play, but it doesn’t mean I have to deal with them, and I definitely shouldn’t be expected to.
And one random stranger (me) will not completely devastate or scar a child forever if I choose to ignore them.
Do kids make you cry? Or do you hate their layers?
Sorry had to throw in the Shrek reference...
I was near tears last year. I was travelling through Laos, and was in a minivan. Half way through the journey, a local woman got in, with 3 or 4 kids, and holding a baby. She sat next to me, and kept prodding the baby its disgusting head into my side. I don't know why, but I couldn't stand it. After half an hour we made a big stop, to get some dinner, and I sprinted out like crazy, and made friends with some other travellers, so we could sit together upon re-entry
Fuck that
She also had her 10-12 year old take care of the baby, and she was not amused by that poop factory at all
Gonna be honest here I read that as lawyers instead layers
I can't use that. I hate onions unless they are cooked.
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I always tell people: "The appropriate age for you to introduce me to your child is when I can ask the child to get me a beer from the fridge and they do it without trouble. If they do not have that level of understanding and coordination, I am not interested"
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I feel kind of bad because I even feel this way about my own family (niece, age 5 and nephew, age 13). I just can't with them. I don't want to play games. I don't want to baby talk. I'm not interested in them. They're loud. I just can't.
Don't feel bad! Remember, you are not required to like children and you are not a cruel or a bad person because of it. You are allowed to feel exactly how you feel about kids without making excuses to anyone. And you do not deserve to have people guilt you over it.
I don't like kids, I really, really don't like babies, and I don't like parenting culture or anything to do with child rearing. I know it can be hard because it's not a popular opinion to have, even in the CF community. I've moved over to r/actuallychildfree where they don't allow children and it's been great!
The ones that already exist can still help by picking up litter, and leading an Antinatalist lifestyle by example.
I LOVE to make parents uncomfortable by doing dark baby talk in front of them: "WHO'S gonna have a lifetime of suffering to worry about going to school and getting bullied, and supporting a family, and then worry about their health declining and their little body and mind decaying? Yes you are! Yes you AAAARRREEEE!!!!"
wtf??
What the fuck
What annoys me is that they stare. Like when I'm at the store standing behind someone with a baby/kid, they just give this creepy, blank stare. Another thing that annoys me is when adults find it hilarious when the kid says something totally random like, "big rock fall down go boom!" My niece and nephews say odd things at times and my mom thinks it's so clever and hilarious. I don't get it.
GOD I HATE KID TALK!!! I know that they have to learn and yada yada but I have no patience and don't think any of it is cute. I remember once when I was maybe 11/12 years old I asked my mom why we had to tell kids that their art was good when it's not and she got sooooo angry.
Don’t get me started on the “participation trophy” mindset.
Yes! I always hate it when I'm watching random funny videos, so many of then are "kid says stupid/nonsensical thing". How is that funny? It's like laughing at someone who doesn't speak the language well yet say something wrong.
Seriously!! It's not cute at all.
My co-worker (married and childless but with a big ol' case baby rabies) was talking with the rest of the baby-loving office the other day about how cute kid-talk is. Saying things like "my nephew calls banana's "franatters" and it's so hard to correct him because it's adorable! I want him to call them franatters forever."
Like wut? It's not cute, it's dumb. And you're just gonna let him be dumb forever cuz you think it's cute? I seriously don't get these people.
OH MAN, THE STARING!!! Why do they always look so soulless?!? O_e
I've been getting stared at by kids a lot lately, and it's totally unnerving. I've been hitting the gym hard (yay having time for it since my two cats could care less that I don't come home right away from work) and I'm finally closing in on my "pro-wrestler mode" body that I've wanted for years. This of course means I'm much bigger than your average guy, especially the dad-bod fathers these staring kids are latched onto. At least once they realize I know they are staring they get the fear in their eyes and hide behind their parents.
I also get the stare and hate it.
I stare back. Don't break eye contact. Maintain dominance.
Maybe their name is Frisk.
Lol, or Chara.
I hate them too. You are not alone.
Love dat flair!
It's a reverse funnel system
They're so fucking annoying in every way possible. I keep my disgust hidden, especially when asked if I want kids and why haven't I had any yet.
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Why are other people so concerned about if other people have kids or not!?
Yeah, it is different. Because a screaming kid at the store leaves, but when it's your own you're the one leaving with the screaming kid, you have to take it home because it yours and who knows when it'll stop screaming?
You said it perfectly.
I've gotten around this particular bingo by bringing up all the daily news stories of parents that have drowned/smothered/bludgeoned their kids because they cannot take the torture any longer and it drove them insane. It wasn't different when it was their own.
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Don’t forget vomit. They like to vomit.
I hate kids as well! Even my friends that don't want kids say I'm too pessimistic about it and I should just always leave it at "I don't want kids" but I honestly hate them until they're about teenagers and even then I only like the decent, well-behaved ones. Nobody understands my hatred and I get tired of hearing I'm too pessimistic and rude about it when I would rather die than have a child and it's not an over-exaggeration. Yes, just not wanting kids is a perfectly fine reason, but people are allowed to hate kids too and as long as they're not harming anyone there's no issue with it. I wish just one person I'd met in person could understand, but it's nice to at least see people online that agree with me.
i completely agree with you. I despise kids and peoplei dont know too well will give rude looks. Friends/family will think Im joking but no.I hate everything about them. Theyre annoying, loud, unhygenic, gross, uninteresting and everyone expects you to just give kids your undivided attention and respect just because they are kids.
My SO doesnt believe me either and he bingos me here and there and its annoying AF. "You might change your mind" and "its different when theyre your own"
i just basically verbally slapped him by bringing up daily news stories of fathers and mothers that drown and smother their kids because they cannot take the torture any longer. it wasnt different when it was their own lol. the thing is i know id end up being one of those parents if i had kids. i hate kids in every single way and being forced to spend my money/time/freedom/sanity on dealing with one 24/7 for years and years is a fate worse than death. Children are a curse.
Sorry to hear you are being bingo'd by your SO! I'm glad you verbally slap them but if it were me, I'd be kicking them to the curb.
A "significant other" should treat me and my wishes as, well, significant. Anything else is disrespect in my book.
I am a lot like you. Certain kids are fine they tend to be quiet well parented and polite. Anything else the most I feel towards them is disdain if I feel anything one way or another. The only kids I feel true hate for are the bullys who have no reason to be a bully but are. I guess you'd call those spoiled brats. I have zero interactions to the point little kids try to show the same bs that gets every one to pay attention to them. You can hear the sarcasm in my voice if I reply at all. Oh that's cool, in the voice someone uses when your telling them obvious info like they don't already know 1 + 1 = 2 at 35 years old. I can't help it I just can't be bothered enough to care. My family sums it up as I'm not good with kids. No SH!T. Didn't they notice as a kid I was more interested in hanging out with older people than other kids? Or that most of my friends tended to be 2-10 years older than me?
Agree 100%. I also hate how liking children is somehow linked to you being a good person. I say I hate them and suddenly I'm "heartless" or a bad person. I mean, I may be, but it's got nothing to do with whether I like the digusting little things or not.
I know, right? And every post on here containing this disclaimer that they "don't hate children" just annoys me so much.. Like, who cares.. Get on with the story..
Exactlyy, lol
Gotta placate all the parents in here, or else they downvote you into oblivion.
Reminds me of Aromantics. I feel terrible for them because they get labeled as "heartless" or emotionless for simply not feeling romantic attraction. Like, dude, there are other attractions, sit down.
Sorry I got off topic, but it's similar in a way and it reminded me of it.
Also hate kids. They cause me anxiety/discomfort. I’ve never wanted to be around children. A lot of the time I think about how they (may) grow into shitty adults.
I'm with you 120% I have always and will forever hate children. I would never harm a kid because I'm not a sick person. I just hate children I don't find joy in them. I'm in my mid 20's and I can't tell you how many people say I'll change my mind... No I will certainly not thank you very much. I salute you!
I am so damn hype to get my tubes tied ASAP (thanks to the referral from this lovely page for a doctor who will do it) so everyone will shut the fuck up about me having kids!
I'm getting a vasectomy for my 25th birthday! Which is in 2 months!
Happy early vasectomy/birthday! Definitely post about it! Definitely a day to remember.
Thank you! :D and oh trust me I will I'm very excited about it!
I will never change my mind. I f***ing HATE it when people tell me that I’ll change my mind or, “it’s different when they’re yours.” No. No I won’t and no it won’t be. I don’t give a single fk about having kids and people need to mind their business. I’d completely resent that child and win the Mother of the Year award. So many people are like, “don’t have kids. It’s terrible.” I’m like...sorry I’m not sorry? You chose that but don’t take it out on your children. They don’t deserve it. They didn’t choose to be born. And that person above is right, “It not being their fault doesnt make it any better to deal with.” I love babies but hate kids. Granted, I’m great with kids but I do also get very awkward and anxious. I just try to hide it for the sake of my family and friends.
I'm about to hit 30 and the frequency of the "you'll change my mind" bingos has started to noticeably decrease. WOO!
I'm really hoping as I get out of my mid 20s that people start to stop with the whole "you'll change your mind". I cAn only imagine how nice it is to not be bingoed.
I think you’re my soulmate
Thank god someone thinks so.
I was sitting here like, "Did I write this?"
But that would make both of you my soulmate...shucks.
I took myself out on a date this evening. As one does. Ate a couple slices of pizza and walked by the water. Tampa Bay. Went to a dessert shop/bakery to enjoy some ice cream after my healthy dinner.
There is a whole nest, an infestation of children getting free sample after free sample from the obviously over-it employees, with inattentive and quite frankly miserable looking parents. Must’ve been four or five kids. Two adult couples. They all looked completely miserable. I kind of just hung back and felt bad for the employees (left a big tip to apologize for these little monsters in my own way) while I waited for this brood to finish their long ass order. At one point I decided they were taking so long so I just stepped up to the counter after which one of the moms gave me a nasty ass look and stepped right back in front of me. No big deal, I already had my ice cream and my cappuccino and was just chilling. So after they left, I paid and went to sit outside. The kids were sitting there at the table next to me doing stupid baby talk and the ‘how much wood could a woodchuck chuck’ thing. Over. And over. And over. I put my headphones on and walked off. Definitely had had enough of that. Had a beautiful walk by myself, sat down, enjoyed my ice cream in my coffee in peace. Did not feel an iota of remorse for those parents. They signed up for the gig.
TLDR I also unapologetically hate kids. One of us. One of us.
People act like we have made the decision to hate kids, but I've really just always been this way. Life would be so much easier and enjoyable if I liked kids or could even tolerate them. But I just can't. I've tried too, I've experimented with my family and eventually I just stopped going to family events because I absolutely cannot take being around them.
I feel you. I will always remember when I decided that I don’t like children. I was 14and I had been forced to volunteer over the summer at the R Club summer program at my middle school (summer leading into high school). I absolutely hated it. I hated being around the children. I was so awkward, had no idea how to intersect with them, couldn’t communicate well, etc etc etc. I begged my mom to take me out of the volunteer program and she did. Ever since then I’ve been the same way.
I don't remember an exact moment, but it was around the ages of 10 that I knew I hated kids. I knew I never wanted my own, but the actual hating of children occurred separately.
At family gatherings, I was literally forced to baby sit my cousin's kids (one with both a physical and slight mental disability). On my mom's side, all my cousins are significantly older and had children relatively young. Meaning I'm much older than their children, but too young to be considered an "adult" with them. There were no cousins in my age bracket, so I had no one to hang out with. I hated those kids all so much and was jealous that my brother got to hide in his room from them. If I went to my room, I got called out and told to watch the kids. Because I'm a girl and apparently that's what girls do even when they are 10 years old and really don't want to.
I fly constantly for work. There is nothing worse than crying young children in a plane.
After a certain decibel level, flight attendants should be authorized to sedate children. Anyone want to help draft FAA legislation?
Jesus, yes. Should be law to make em take some nyquil or something at least
You all seem that meme that says "when a baby starts screaming in a restaurant" and it's a pic of Paris Hilton saying "does she like xanax?"
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Lol. I have the Bose ones and they are no match for screaming toddlers.
Now, cranking up a Vivaldi symphony with the noise cancelling can compete 😉
Really? Can you recommend a pair? Because I have tested some and they honestly didn't do much, unless the sound is on a constant frequency that is easy to process.
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Thanks! Will check them out
You're speaking for all of us that also genuinely feel this way. I can't stand the sound of infants or toddlers in public. I'm pedophobic, so they creep/freak me out, and I always have to escape using the nearest escape route. They smell disgusting and are a "walking petri dish", as I've heard them being described before. They're always either smothered in food and being photographed, or they're screeching because their parents don't teach them to shut up when required from a very young age.
"r/childfree is so toxic! They hate children!"
Yes. That's why I'm part of the sub. I, too, hate children. We exist.
I am one of those who hate kids too.
Kids are absolutely annoying and disgusting. Most kids are never taught to stay clean until they are like 5. I understand that they vomit and nasty baby food but it’s still repulsive in my eyes. I don’t want to see you changing your little crotch goblin nor do I want to hold it talk to them. They are your kid, not mine. Leave me out of it. My mom and Dad always want me to see their grandkids from my sisters (they both had daughters before they got married and had me). I understand that they are your grandkids but I personally don’t give a damn. You both know that I don’t want kids nor do I like them. I had to deal with my nephew living with us for a year while one of my sisters got her shit together. It was absolute hell and I refuse to do that ever again. He was the reason why I replaced my doorknob with one that had a lock on it. Got a lot of use with that puppy!! Best purchase I’ve made all year!
I 100000% agree with you. I fucking hate kids. I have no qualms in saying it. Like yes there are some good, well behaved kids, but honestly they’re not that common. Kids are gross, loud, annoying, all that shit.
Don't forget expensive AF
Nothing gets me angrier than hearing a child cry. It happens instantly, too.
Kids make everything worse. I hate them. They turn logical adults into idiots. They turn your friends into shut-ins who you never see again. Society and lawmakers somehow favor them over you, the one who actually pays taxes. And there is almost no place you can go to get away from them.
The only thing that might make me angrier than hearing a child cry is hearing them be a fucking smart ass. Sometimes crying is understandable, pain, hunger, distress. But hearing a kid mouth off? Ohhhhhh child.
If you wanna get some rage, look up Jimmy Kimmel's Bad Christmas Gift pranks. Oh my god.
Someone said it! I know it's not their fault, and my job (which has a lot of children around) means I can interact with them just fine, but kids are basically uncivilized gross humans. Why would I like that? People are only interesting if they have personality and most kids don't other than 'he's really outgoing!' (he shouts every word and demands attention) or 'he's creative and thoughtful' (he doesn't talk). Even the most perfect parents are still going to have a baby that cries, and that noise will always make me want to hurl myself off a cliff.