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Not GREAT....but a lot better than many
uscmd12 June 2004
I have to agree with the wizard. i'm stuck at home on a Saturday with the flu, and luckily I have every channel Direct TV offers, so there's a lot to choose from.

This is a very decent, made for TV sci-fi movie. Complete with philosophical issues, a few plot twists...e.g., 80% of the way through the movie, you don't know if the 'thing' is good or bad.

The actors are mostly B and C level players. But the script, and their performance allows one to become absorbed in the storyline. As opposed to many, that are just so plain horrible.......immersion into the story is impossible.

I can name 10 movies that have been released in this calender year, ones I've paid 9.00 to see in theater, that I feel are less worthy of 2 hours of my life.

I'd classify this, as definitely worth watching for free....if its on TV. Not worth going to see at the theater. Not worth making a special trip to blockbuster, but worth tucking away in the back of your mind for one of those nights when everything else is checked out.

I give it a 5.

Doc
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Falls apart at the end, but overall not too bad
Wizard-820 July 2003
Listen, I have seen REAL junk before seeing this movie - movies with worse scripts, worse special effects, worse acting, you name it. That's why I am kind of puzzled with everyone here claiming that those attributes in this movie are the worse possible. All I can think is that they have mostly or completely watched big-budget Hollywood product, and think that the only good films that exist must fit that criteria.

The movie starts off pretty well, thanks in part to an intriguing premise. And the investigation of the object and the events surrounding it keep up the interest, with some genuine intelligent touches. There is also some extra tension added with the subplot about the Chinese.

Okay, the special effects overall may not be up to a big-budget Hollywood movie, but they are far above average for made-for-video movies. (And a few, in fact, are excellent.) And yes, there are a few questionable things in the script, such as how the Chinese first react to the object when they get near it. The acting is mainly mediocre, but it's not so bad that it keeps distracting you from the characters and the events.

However, I will admit that the movie ultimately ends up being a big question mark. A lot of intriguing questions are brought up, but there is little done to answer them. Still, this is nowhere the worst movie that's ever been made. For those who think so, I say: Expand the range of what you watch! For starters, try watching movies made by Royal Oaks or Phoenician Entertainment, or movies produced by Lloyd A. Simandl!
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A pleasant surprise
StaticEngine1 June 2003
Ahh, the critics who are so quick to dismiss this made for TV movie often make me wonder what they're really looking for.

I picked this movie off the shelf of Blockbuster thinking "hey, unknown Sci-Fi movie, must be awful, but I bet there's some sample material for me in it." What a shock when I got it home and found it was actually clever and worth watching!

To begin with, the script is actually pretty smart, and filled with surprisingly witty dialog that had me laughing out loud at parts. The CGI effects are as good as they get for a movie of this budget, and are better than I expected them to be. The story, while mildly predictable, keeps you thinking, and is certainly of a bigger scope than the standard "five people trapped in a unknown alien artifact" that I expected. Any story that acknowledges politics and an outside world has to be given more credit than some viewers (and commenters here) would care to admit.

Overall, if you've got a rainy day and are looking for a little diamond in the rough, this isn't a bad way to spend two hours. There are faces you'll recognize, some intelligent unfolding of the story, reasonable cinematography and direction, and Epoch is an overall entertaining bit of work. 7.5 out of 10.
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This movie is just fine, believe it or not!
fredk_us25 January 2003
For once I'm stumped by the cybercritics who contribute to IMDB. "Epoch" is not that bad Z-grade flick some cynics asserted. I was pleasantly surprised, which pleased my boyfriend, who wanted to watch another Sci-Fi film. I ate crow on this one after consulting this website. David Keith is an easy hunk who's engaging, and Stephanie Niznik does a Mary Wouronov-like turn as Kelly McGillis and Jodie Foster (the psychic lovers of "The Accused").

The movie's mystery is consistently upbeat despite the standard brutality of the military sectors. This is quite unusual, refreshing. Even the threat of nuclear war has a fey warmth in this tale, as if a blanket wrapped round you will neutralize the deadliest virus.

"Epoch" is consistently intelligence without arrogance. The cheap special effects are equally charming, evocative of the 1950s, and as effective as the inserted computer-generated screens that fill the film's landscape.

Brian Thompson actually does some character development as Captain Tower, and James Hong is spare and most amusing.

Lots of unexpected turns adorn this smoky gem. Congratulations to the cast and crew, and "Tsk-tsk" to all my fellow critics who dogged the show a little too communistically.
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6/10
Good story concept, mediocre special effects
jerry_smart25 November 2001
Good story concept. The special effects could have been a little better. I think this is a movie made by SciFi channel. Being a made for TV movie it isn't half bad. The story reminds me of the movie "Sphere" It is worth a watch based on the story concept alone. I'm glad I watched it.
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5/10
An example that drove non-geeks away
the-watcher10 September 2001
The plot of this story is interesting, coupled with the Millenium anxiety that was prevalent during the time of release. However, huge hole in plot, lack of background and poor scripting resulted in a mediocre "armageddon" movie.

The background is that an ancient, gigantic, floating rock-like object suddenly appeared out from underground after 4 billion years. Of course, scientists, together with the prerequite of military force have to investigate. David Keith, plays the main protegonist who is supposedly incredibly intelligent and works under a female diplomat.

The usual, predictable sparks appear, between male and female, scientists and the military, USA vs China (the location is supposedly close to the Chinese border in Asia).

The worst thing is that there is potential for this show to have much better ratings. However, horrible scripts that don't into details, just action, action, action, coupled with the director's inability to elicit any emotion from the wooden actors/actresses except for the extreme ones made this show a movie that only a geek would like.
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7/10
Odd and interesting
gherstein9 June 2002
A pretty good "B" grade SF. I worried toward the end that it was going to "wimp out" and opt for a religious interpretation of all the various goings on. But the film stayed true to itself, offering no easy or obvious answers, while at the same time resolving its story line in a fairly satisfactory manner.

Several of the plot "twists" and characters are cliche's; however, some are not as cliche as they initially appear, and ultimately, even the most predictable ones are managed in a comparatively non-offending manner.

Worth seeing.
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8/10
A Great, Intelligent B-Movie
slayerjmk9529 October 2011
When i saw this aired on the Scifi channel in 2006, i thought that it would be another ultra-cheesy, incredibly terrible film that Scifi usually makes but was i surprised! Epoch was a great, classic B-Movie that actually had good CGI for a TV made film, decent to good acting, and a story that actually got me hooked because it felt like i was watching something made by Michael Crichton and Steven Spielberg, only on a much smaller budget. David Keith was really good in the cocky role of Mason Rand, an engineer who works for the DOD who's called in to work on a team in Bhutan where a giant towering object called the Torus lifted itself out of the ground and began to give of EMPs that traveled far across the globe, and began to heal the sick and reanimated the dead, which has doctors and scientists baffled. All in all, Epoch is a very good movie that can capture the audiences attention without being stupid and loud, and keeps to the classic sci-fi movie feel as there is not much action but more thrills, as they begin to study the Torus. This is a must-see for science fiction fans

8/10 Stars***
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5/10
Good elements, but lacked some funk
SamRag19 August 2002
There was not much I expected from Epoch, thinking that surely we would have one of these B-movies with pausing dialog and s****y script. So in some ways I was surprised, as the result was much better then I expected. What saved this film was pretty good idea and not too bad script. The main actors did well, keeping their conversation fast paced and witty. There were some parts that irritated me though, mostly to do with the government, which seemed to be filled with idiots. It had a weird balance between comedy and action, which I don't think really worked here, and even though some wit is good, they should have kept it more realistic. I especially enjoyed Brian Thompson, which we have seen in so many TV shows (Star Trek, X-File). He managed to actually act here, which he is not allowed to do often, and I think he is underrated as an actor. But the performance of Ryan O'Neal just irritated me along with a few of the others; with such bad over-acting that it was painful to watch. However, this film lacks action and the storyline went steadily down hill from beginning to end. The idea could have been used to make a pretty good action movie, with a little bit better worked out storyline, and much better casting. 5/10
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5/10
Entertaining -- Worth A Look
brimleg13 September 2004
I first viewed this film when it aired in 2000. I was impressed by the intensity of David Keith's performance. Having seen him in Fire Starter, I was glad to see him as lead in another SCI-FI film. Not a particular fan of Ryan O'Neal, I must confess this role was executed extremely well.

I enjoyed this film from Title to credits and would recommend taking a look if you enjoy the "mystery of origin" venue.

When viewing this film, take a tongue-in-cheek view of budget, location, etc. Enjoy the film for the intense action and great performances rendered by David Keith and Ryan O'Neal, try not to be too critical of plot or content. Just let yourself be entertained for an hour and a half.
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6/10
Not a bad premise
Omne16 June 2002
Warning: Spoilers
The main idea, that an energy being descended to Earth 4 billion years ago in order to monitor and create intelligent life on the planet, was interesting.

Minor spoilers ahead.

The being, now "encased" in a rocky 1/2 mile tall ship/monolith, periodically wipes the planet clean and starts over with a new dominant species. Of course this also explains the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Mankind is on the short list to be purged in the present day. Maybe it's going to try raccoons or something next.

The acting is mediocre at best. You know it's bad when Brian Thompson is one of the better actors in it. The other characters are cut out 2 dimensional figures that nobody really cares about. They cut so many corners in order to squeeze this into 90 minutes they lose anything of value. Maybe as a mini-series with better actors and more complex plot development it might have resulted in a superior effort worthy of the basic premise. Unfortunately they chose the quickie version and it shows.

All in all an OK attempt at a difficult plot. I'd give it a 5 or 6.
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The Mother's Vision
tedg7 August 2002
Warning: Spoilers
Spoilers herein.

This film has bad acting, poor production values and stinking dialog. No matter. Science fiction is held to a different standard than all else, because often the idea behind the project is strong enough to carry the day. Witness `Forbidden Planet.'

Superficially, the idea behind this is the most ordinary in the genre: humans discover an alien artifact that exhibits mystical powers. Often, those powers imply the creation of ourselves. But this effort seems to add nothing new to the standards: `2001/2010' and `Mission to Mars.' But a clever viewer may see something interesting here.

IMDB doesn't say, but the writer is probably Terri Neish, who also appears here as the lovely Bhutan mother. It doesn't take much to see an original ambiguity that the studio deadheads erased: that the appearance of the object, indeed its creation, was caused by the child. She must have conceived him immaculately, something mirrored at the end. (Virgin birth is a tradition that apparently first appeared in this part of the world and was spliced -- as it was with other messiah accounts -- onto the Jesus story some time after the early gospels.)

His powers manifest the object and control its behavior. All of a sudden one can see some interesting structure. The author of the story is the author of the child who is the author of the object who is the author of the viewers. Now that's promising. It probably explains why they sought Ryan O'Neal. He plays a somewhat similar role in Kubrick's exploration of this idea in `Barry Lyndon.'

Some quibbles:

-- NSA doesn't do what they show here. They just listen and worry about code. She must be thinking of the NSC plus Special Ops assets.

-- The shape of the object is somewhat clever. Would be better if the rock were slowly moving like a tornado. That was probably intended because it spins toward the end. Troubling shortcut: the shape of the object is precisely the same no matter what the perspective.

--The code to unlock the object is too childish. If the radial arrangement of the planets around the sun were important, so would be their distance from the sun, tilting from the ecliptic plane and possibly a few other characteristics. But even then why? The scifi template implies it is a test of how far we have evolved. But observation is not understanding.

Ted's Evaluation -- 1 of 4: You can find something better to do with this part of your life.
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1/10
One to miss.
Rob_Taylor17 December 2002
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Oh my! What a wonderfully awful film this turned out to be. It even had Troy..er I mean Marc McClure in it. "You may remember him from..." No! No. I'll stop now.

Anyway, Epoch is a film with a simple enough plot. Think 2001 A Space Odyssey, but without any space bits. Basically, an alien artifact appears in Bhutan and a team is sent to investigate. A team which includes the likes of David Keith, Craig Wasson and Ryan O'Neal. Poor old Ryan was looking a little the worse for wear in this one. It's been a long time since Love Story, for sure.

Anyway, the action is pretty lame and I got a good laugh out of the scissor-lift HQ truck (watch and you'll see what I mean). The plot is pretty hokey and has more holes than a swiss cheese. I'd like to give you a spoiler alert, but honestly, I'm not ruining anything by telling you this. The artifact was put here by aliens eons ago. Every now and again, it pops up and, if whatever civilisation is not advanced enough to deactivate it, it wipes that civilisation out completely and disappears for another few millions of years. I can't honestly recall if they said so or not in the film, but the implication was that it wiped out the dinosaurs.

Now, call me picky, but I have trouble understanding just why an alien race would create such a device. Given the timescales involved in life forming and evolving to a civilised state, what do they get out of it? And since the device could wipe out a civilisation just a few years before it was able to deactivate the artifact, surely that would be counter-productive (to whatever motive the aliens had in the first place). Far better to create the device to wipe out any advanced species before it became a threat to the creators. Yet this is clearly not the aim of the artifact.

And what wonderful test of civilisation do our humble human heroes perform to deactivate the device? Perhaps solving some complex alien language and pressing the "off" button? Or simply providing the missing part to some quantum mechanics equation? No, all our heroes do in the end is nuke the artifact. A triumph of brute force over ingenuity. No thought required, just fry it.

The only small ray of sunshine in this otherwise overcast film was Brian Thompson. He regularly plays bit parts in films and TV and usually ends up the villain or goon. Here he plays a Special Forces Captain. But despite his square jawed glaring, even his dialogue and part are dismal and forgettable.

SUMMARY: One to miss.
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7/10
Yes it's a B movie with an attitude...
bheadher16 June 2022
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But so what, if you were channel surfing looking for something to watch then this one will suffice for an hour and a half...Epoch may be the classic B move, but it actually has some charm. The plot is way out there for all us SciFi fanatics, and the acting is almost believable, so heck, give it a shot with a bit of popcorn and long for those days of no CGI and half baked movies that only wanted to entertain you...

And no thnking needed...
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3/10
Tired Remake of The Day The Earth Stood Still - Epoch
arthur_tafero23 March 2020
This is a lame student film with two good first shots and then weary predictability afterwards, which vaguely resembles "The Day the Earth Stood Still" and a dash of 2001 Space Odyssey. Ryan O'Neal is unintentionally hilarious as a professional actor trying to play a role of some commander, but everyone else does a credible job in their roles. I have seen student videos superior to this film.
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Watchable, but very unsatisfying
gtc8330 August 2004
This is about a giant rock formation that bursts from the earth somewhere near China. The US sends a team to investigate, while the Chinese send a few divisions of troops, and a US soldier goes insane.

The US team consists of a scientist who's main investigative strategy seems to be pointing out how smart he is and how dumb everyone else is, which is ironic because if you actually pay attention, it turns out he's wrong in the end. Then there's the hard nosed government agent who does everything she can to keep the scientist from doing his job, based on the fact that he made a bad joke and she's mad at him. And then the previously mentioned insane soldier. So, we're in good hands here.

The big problem with the movie is that it sets up a good premise: What is this thing? And then never answers its own question. Your guess is as good as the writer's. Very unsatisfying. A lot of time wasted with subplots that should have been spent coming up with an interesting explanation for the alien object. I felt like they expected me to use my experience with other sci-fi films and just assume that these aliens were pretty much the same. Or not...or, well, just look at all the money we spent on CGI - pretty cool eh?

The action moves along okay, the acting isn't bad, the characters are all somewhat annoying, and the CGI is actually pretty good. Basically it's the writing that sunk this thing.
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2/10
ho hum
geomac399 May 2007
I am going to have to stop picking DVD's on their cover graphics, which was the case for EPOCH. This is a comedy ? yes ? must be because I laughed a lot. EPOCH is not just a stereotype, but a STEREOTYPE of a stereotype. Lets see what I can remember..... alien chamber with long threads of vapour inside, check. Entities a copy of the ones from ABYSS, check. Ethereal off key male voices, intermittent kettle drums with the odd bass drum to raise tension, check. Thuggish trigger happy US rangers invading a sovereign nation, check. Incompetent officers at loggerheads, check. A nuclear weapon with red number countdown, check. A scientist trying to defuse such bomb with a Swiss Army knife,check. The artifact collapsing with giant rocks falling down ( Indiana Jones, the Mummy etc. ) Aliens deciding that we are worth saving eventually, check. Last, but not least, a virgin pregnancy. I watched it all the way through ignoring the "turkey meter " warning horn. I don't normally do this so it MUST have some entertainment value which I am unable to fathom. Over to you, folks !
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8/10
This movie is much better than prior reviewers have averaged
thtaylor-696611 January 2020
Yes, lots of predictable, "B-movie" stuff, but solid sci-fi, easily as credible (and hokey) as several older cult movies.
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3/10
Silly from go to whoa
redkiwi7 March 2002
This is one of the sillier alien films you'll see. There's obvious attempts to use symbolism in the way that worked for 2001, but they fall flat.

The alien monolith? Hmmmm, I'm sure that's a coincidence ;)

Badly acted and with a silly script, this is a B grader if ever I saw one. One for the late night TV film section I think.
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7/10
Another movie in which the Americans try to save the world...come on!
disciple12824 November 2001
This movie surprised me I must say. Not to say that it wasn't predictable, because it was, but the whole production of this film amazed me. The visual effects were great! So was the set design, and to some degree, so was the direction. The only factor that doesn't quite measure up is the acting. It's sad...but true. But all in all, it's an entertaining and very thrilling film! Well worth the cost of renting it!
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5/10
A frustrating film
motor898 May 2005
Epoch starts out reasonably well... even if it's not very original. An alien artifact -- a strange twisted rock-like formation -- suddenly appears in the remote country of Bhutan and the Americans and Chinese race to reach it. The Americans win and begin to explore it.

The problems for the film begin toward the end. It starts to become really stupid. There are interesting narrative threads that are just forgotten about, and people start to do moronic things for no apparent reason. I'm reading between the lines here (I haven't seen the original script so I just don't know), but there seemed to be a theme of life/death/rebirth/pregnancy and how it links with the object (particularly considering the strange Bhutan child and the final scene) but only traces remain the film. Of course, it may just have been a poorly written story... or it may have been butchered later. It does seem as though large chunks of the script were ditched in order to shorten the running time.

The film is entertaining at the start but hugely disappointing at the end. It leaves you feeling annoyed at the wasted opportunity.
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1/10
It doesn't get any worst than this
yojimbo99930 May 2003
"Epoch" has a pretty good premise, but oh my God does the execution blow chunks. I don't like to use the word often, but this movie is just retarded. The screenplay, the acting, the character motivations -- God. It's like a bunch of kids wrote this movie, giving the characters all childish qualities. The idiot Chinese Government, who SHOOTS A MISSILE at the big black rock thingy, and THEN blames the U.S. Government for their jets getting destroyed! And guess what? Later, the brilliant Chinese sends a division of soldiers to invade a foreign country because that country wasn't "big enough" to have a say about who comes into their country!

What a retarded movie. I swear, I've never used that word to describe any film, but "Epoch" really takes the cake.
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3/10
The unknown may just remain a mystery.
michaelRokeefe11 June 2002
This Sci-Fi flick is a mystery. Some well known stars, acting as if in a High School play. The B grade F/X are tolerable; but the story line is where this film falls apart. Trying to use too much symbolism makes it very hard to understand. It is good enough to watch as a late, late show. Cast members of note: David Keith, Shannon Lee, Ryan O'Neal, James Avery and Craig Wasson. This may leave you stranded.
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10/10
While not bad could have been MUCH better...
vidalsdauphin29 November 2003
While not bad Epoch could have been much better. With a higher budget this could have easily been along side such films as Mission To Mars, but with the limitations this movie had, Matt Codd and crew did a good job. The script is decent overall with some bits of cool dialouge and a few cool scenes. David Keith gives a good performance as Mason Rand but the two standouts from my perspective were Brian Thompson and James Hong. Thompson was very good as the god fearing Captain Tower and James Hong was excellent (as usual) as the Chinese ambassador. Other than those three the acting remains good all across the board. The directing was slick for the most part and the movie cruised along fairly quickly. All in all Epoch is an excellent straight-to-video film that could have easily been a sleeper summer hit, if only the budget was larger.
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8/10
What is this thing called, love?
Bernie444414 November 2023
Four billion years ago something got stuck in the earth. Today it mysteriously pops up in Bhutan; actually, filmed in Vasquez Rocks Natural Area Park - 10700 W. Escondido Canyon Rd., Agua Dulce, California, USA. The object is mysteriously balanced on its pointy part. The whole film is mysteriously balanced. And where did they produce a name for this mysterious object? As the US government and scientists are confronted by the "Red" Chinese government and scientists. This is more like a Hallmark movie than sci-fi. No one acts as they would in real life so you will just have to like watching the story unfold and doing a little kibitzing. At the end of the story, you realize it looks more like a pilot film and a test of what ideas will fly.
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