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From the Wizards' standpoint, this would be highway robbery by The Pistons.
There is zero reason to trade up to get Whitmore. If The Pistons love him so much, they can have him.
Oh, why would they want to trade down? Because they don't love him that much.
This would be a totally asinine move by the Wizards. Whitmore is very much limited as far as feel for the game/decisionmaking/willingness to create for others. Even his outside shooting is yet to be proven at the NBA level (although I expect it will likely be ok.) He shot poorly on pull-up jumpers from mid-range, suggesting that even his self-creation will require work.
The Wizards are in my opinion in a decent spot at #8. There are 4 guys who are 99% unlikely to fall into the 5-8 range (Wemby, BMil, Scoot, Amen) and 4 guys roughly in the second tier (Walker, Ausar, Hendricks, Whitmore.)
The Wizards should not overcomplicate things and simply take whoever is left over from that group at #8. Alternately, if they REALLY want to go for positional need there are Black and Cason Wallace to pick from.
There is zero reason to give up anything of value to trade within the 5-8 group.
Personally I wouldn't trade Kispert seeing as he was basically the only solid pick from the Tommy Sheppard era. Cam Whitmore is a great pick and I would love to have him on the team, but getting rid of our only good 3pt shooter and adding another center to our rotation would be lame. Then Wiseman and Gafford have to compete for minutes, and I like Gafford's potential a lot more since he doesn't have the extensive injury history. Wiseman is also entering restricted free agency after this season and his qualifying offer is almost $16m, so you may have a situation where we're paying Daniel Gafford and James Wiseman a combined $30m or more. Pretty bad if you ask me.
The basic premise of the trade is fine, since Detroit unfortunately fell out of the top 4 and probably don't have a clear difference maker at #5, but I think the particulars of the deal are underwhelming.
I know Wiseman didn't get a fair shake at GSW but mannnnnnn is he still rough as fuck. with an Injury history too.
I think he’s in there just to make salaries work, not as an asset.
ok so if it's just basically Kispert Wright and #8 for #5 that don't do much for me. not even sure if the difference is that big between who we could get at 5 vs 8 that would make that worth it. Team needs to get 3 pointers up and hopefully make some of them too, and in this deal we would get rid of the one guy on the team who can do that. I think PoA defense is overrated but Delon won me over last year.
would Detroit accept a lightly used Deni instead of Kispert?
I'd absolutely give Deni before Corey. Corey's shown massive improvement this past season, especially with his cutting and finishing at the basket, really makes his offensive arsenal versatile. Deni on the other hand is an amazing defender, but has also regressed offensively and stayed the same otherwise. I also wouldn't knock that 31st pick. LOTS of good role players are drafted in that low-30s range, who would be really nice to have
What makes you say he didn't get a fair shake?
Kerr didn't let him play through the mistakes he was going to inevitably have. Which I understand why Kerr did that, he was trying to win with Steph and you can't do that if you are also teaching Wiseman how to walk and chew gum at the same time.
I'd trade Deni before I trade Kispert
Deni is entering a contract year. It's pretty much now or never for him and the Wiz
If they could sign him for a reasonable 3 year contract I wouldn't mind him being on the team, but I don't think he'll ever be more than a defensive assignment player. There's still room on a NBA team for someone like that, but he shouldn't be considered an essential building block or anything. If someone asked for him in a trade I would do it.
No thanks, Kispert is a 3pt marksmen and we already lack guys who do that, especially someone like him who will continue to shoot like he does, he’s naturally great at it.
Then also losing Delon who is probably our best defender (other than maybe Deni) for a Rookie who is untested and Wiseman who on a rebuilding team struggled to make an impact.
I’ll pass
NGL I’m intrigued by Wiseman but don’t wanna give up Kispert unless we can replace his 3pt shooting immediately. It’s possible that comes from the 5th pick tho. Wiseman in 25mpg gave the Pistons 13 and 8. Defense can use some work and I’d like more shot blocking but the profile for a baller is there
13 and 8 on a tanking team with pretty awful efficiency for a center.
I agree with all that. In GS there is a major issue with young vs old. The young want to play and learn on the court and the old are still championship ready. It’s hard to learn if you are a big and you are treated as a lower offensive option than Dray. The bigs they have haven’t really developed because the team isn’t made for them to. It’s shoot lights out. Poole only really developed because he is a ball handler and can create his own shot off the dribble. Pistons just were acquiring assets to make a move later
yeah i think it was a good move for detroit. i’m just saying i’m not interested in him as a wizard.
Whitmore has some shooting and self-creation upside but he's not a >40% 3pt shooter like Kispert is. As a team that's been terrible in 3pt attempts and percentage for 3 consecutive seasons, I would hate this move for us. We need to modernize our offense.
True shit. The 5th pick helps if they can get to the rim. That opens up things for shooters
Kispert is the only player worth keeping on this roster
not interested in wiseman, especially if we’re keeping either KP or Gaff. And he’s probably gonna get overpaid as a restricted free agent in 2 years. Mediocre centers are dime a dozen.
God this is awful. I’m good.
Would do it more so for the prospect of a Thompson twin or whitmore more so then wiseman. Having 31 also doesn’t hurt.
It’s amazing how far Wiseman’s value has fallen. Myers wiffed on the pick, could have LaMelo Ball. Hell Avdija is better than Wiseman.
We can maybe trade for the Pistons and Blazers pick. Rebuild with the the Thompson twins.
I doubt we have the assets to get the 3rd pick, let alone both that and #5.
I think we can.
Three way trade with Blazers and Celtics can land us the number 3 pick and multiple Celtics pick.
Then we can package a Celtics pick, the number 8, and 2 2nds for the number 5 pick.
Lol if anyone seriously believes the Celtics are going to trade Jaylen for Beal. Lmao
Beal is better than Jaylen, will make less than him and fits better on their team. He would push them from contenders to favorites
Kispert is probably our best draft pick in years, I wouldn't want to trade him unless we get a better 3 pt shooter in return
Case can be made for everyone except the Spurs.
Like Whitmore but we would need a pg even more after that trade n
yes as a pistons fan i want dick
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Not interested