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Review: "B'Twixt Now and Sunrise: The Authentic Cut" - Francis Ford Coppola's new cut of "Twixt" (2012)

Review

Okay, here's my long book report. I went back and forth between the versions for a couple of hours, but I may have missed some small trims here and there.

For those who have never seen it, "Twixt"/"B'Twixt Now and Sunrise" is a low-budget ghost story that Coppola made back in 2012. It was based on a dream of his (the best part of the making-of documentary is when they play his original voice memo recorded after the dream). It stars Val Kilmer as a "third-string" horror novelist named Hall Baltimore. While on a book tour in a small town, he is approached by the sheriff (Bruce Dern) with an idea for a book about local murders that he thinks involve a supposed vampire (Alden Ehrenreich). It starts out fairly comic, but Baltimore begins having dreams involving a murdered girl named V (Elle Fanning) and Edgar Allen Poe (Ben Chaplin), who provide creative inspiration and clues to the mystery.

It's a low-budget movie that received fairly poor reviews when it came out and contributed to the perception that Coppola was in decline (although I think the two films he made prior to it, Youth Without Youth and Tetro, are unsung masterpieces). Indeed, it feels very low-budget, and even the cinematography by accomplished DP Mihai Malamaire (The Master, Jojo Rabbit) sometimes seems a bit amateurish, as do some of the performances. Nevertheless, Twixt does have its fans. While I never really counted myself among them, I did find the movie interesting, and it had some really good isolated scenes. This new cut focuses on the good and mitigates the not-so-good.

As a side note, I believe Coppola used to tour with this movie and its composer, Dan Deacon, and they would do "live" presentations of the movie where Coppola would edit the movie live to live accompaniment by Deacon. How I wish I could have seen one of those performances! So regardless of this movie's reviews, it still deserves a spot in the history books for this detail alone.

The following review contains spoilers because I will be comparing and contrasting two cuts of the movie: the 2012 version known as "Twixt", and a new cut of the movie released on Blu-Ray this week called "B'Twixt Now and Sunrise: The Authentic Cut", which is about 8 minutes shorter by my estimation and contains numerous substantial revisions (but no new footage). The spoiler-free review is: "B'Twixt Now and Sunrise" is a much better version of the movie, and brings more sharply into focus why this is a surprisingly personal film for Coppola, as it deals with the death of his son in the late 1980s in a boating accident.

I'll refer to the two versions as Twixt and B'Twixt.

The changes:

- The principle change is the movie ending four minutes earlier in the story. B'Twixt now ends with the scene with Hall Baltimore and Edgar Poe on the cliff. The only new footage in the movie that I noticed is the final shot of the movie being extended slightly to let the final moment linger, and the new title card appear before the credits roll. The final sequence is also edited slightly differently. In Twixt, we cut to Baltimore in the middle of Poe's final line, splitting Poe's line over two shots. Now his final line plays over one shot, and then we cut to Baltimore's reaction. This way, the second-to-last shot of the movie is Baltimore absorbing Poe's message before the movie ends. Helps it land, I think.

- A little bit of the deleted final 4 minutes (V waking up in the morgue after Baltimore removes the stake from her heart) has been used earlier in B'Twixt, around 38 minutes in, when Baltimore is trying to begin his new book and he's doing impressions. In Twixt, he ends up in a reverie thinking about his daughter, then he goes to the morgue. The reverie has been replaced with a shortened version of the stake removal scene, presented as a fantasy instead of the daughter reverie. The daughter reverie is moved to the end of the movie and incorporated into the cliff scene. The music from the daughter reverie in Twixt replaces the "Nosferatu" song as the end credits music in B'Twixt.

- Two sequences are combined. In Twixt, the process of Poe telling the story of V and the murdered children was split into two parts. After the scene where Poe describes his process for composing "The Raven", Poe tells Baltimore a little bit about the mass murder of the children. The rest is told at the climax. In B'Twixt, the story about the murder is moved to the climax of the movie and combined with the rest of the murder sequence. In combining the two sequences, Coppola also shortened them substantially. Trims include: making lemonade; Poe addressing the camera to say "But the monster caught her and put her in chains in he vault"; and all of the screaming as V is chained up.- When Baltimore visits Flamingo in B'Twixt, most of Flamingo's dialogue has been removed. Now he just recites French, Baltimore remarks "You're educated. You know Baudelaire." Flamingo responds, "I know the dreams of Baudelaire", speaks some more French, and then the sheriff arrives. In Twixt, they have a longer conversation about the missing girl before the sheriff arrives.

- In all, there are over four minutes of trims before the cliff scene, and another four minutes after it (besides the stake-removal scene which was moved earlier and substantially shortened).

Generally speaking, I think the trims made the movie more dreamlike. By withholding Baltimore's reverie about his daughter, we don't know much about what happened until the last scene of the movie. The same is done with the murdered children. By not connecting as many puzzle pieces until the end, I think it makes the middle of the movie more dreamlike, and the ending more emotional.

Removing the climactic scene in the sheriff's station/morgue was a good idea, too, because now there are no "real life" scenes after the sheriff realizes that Baltimore is onto him and hits him over the head. There are now no "real" horror scenes in the movie aside from that moment. It's left implied that the sheriff is the stake killer, but that's the only resolution we get.Also, by combining the two Poe-narrated Chickering Hotel scenes, and removing the final sheriff's station scene, the number of times we re-visit certain locations has been cut way down. I think this makes the movie feel bigger, because we aren't re-using locations so much. And it makes the narrative flow better and feel less episodic, especially in the second half.

Pretty sure the first 38 minutes of the movie are identical, although I may have missed some subtle nips and tucks. Also fairly certain there is no new footage besides the extended final shot.

Another great Coppola re-edit, imho. It's still not one of his major works, but it does feel like Coppola was being more emotionally and artistically authentic, removing the more commercial stuff and committing to making it an arty and personal ghost story. I would be very surprised if anyone preferred the original cut.

Definitely recommended that Coppola fans give this another shot.

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Love these thoughts.

To Coppola's credit, his final cut of apocalypse now is my preferred version. His Godfather 3 coda cut was good, I think theatrical was better though

u/TheRealProtozoid avatar

Glad you enjoyed them!

I, too, think Final Cut is the best cut of Apocalypse Now. I do like Redux almost as much, though. I give Final Cut the edge because Coppola refined some of the editing.

Godfather III is harder to say, because I only saw the home video cut maybe a decade ago. But based on looking at the website Movie-Censorship, the changes for Coda make sense to me and I really enjoyed watching it.

I also liked The Cotton Club Encore okay, and The Outsiders: The Complete Novel. I don't love those movies but the recuts are better, imho.

There's a rumor that he recut Youth Without Youth, too, which interests me. That's one of my favorite Coppola movies.

u/Poirot76 avatar

any news about a re-cut of Dracula? that movie i hope Coppola would one day to re-cut it

u/TheRealProtozoid avatar

I enjoy recuts of movies, and would be interested to see one of Dracula, but it's already editing extraordinarily well. I haven't heard anything about Coppola changing it and I think he's had many opportunities, since it's been restored a couple of times now.

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there are some editing mistake that i would love to see fixed, but i agree the editing and the pacing is very good already. i dream an extended cut to expand some situations or character, i love Bram Stocker's dracula...

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u/Vaito_Fugue avatar

Thank you so much for posting this. I had no idea an alternate cut was available. I like the theatrical cut, though I agree it's more of a compelling experiment than a major statement. I look forward to checking this out.

u/TheRealProtozoid avatar

You're welcome! It just came out on Blu-Ray on Tuesday. Surprisingly, it played in theaters late last year and nobody talked about it! Such a sad state of affairs that a new Coppola director's cut didn't get any press at all. I know it's one of his most minor works, but especially in the new cut, I think it's something that Coppola fans and especially biographers need to thoroughly examine if they want to understand the man.

u/Technical_Drawing838 avatar

It's definitely a sad state of affairs that a new Coppola director's cut didn't get any press at all. I'm a big fan of Coppola and even I didn't hear about it right away. Granted, that's mostly because these days when I type Coppola in the search bar, I add 'Megalopolis.'

I agree that Twixt and B'Twixt Now and Sunrise are movies that Coppola biographers need to examine if they want to understand the man. The scene drawn from his son's tragic death. The fact that the movie was inspired by a dream he had. How the movie hearkens all the way back to his first movie- Dementia 13- in its style and themes. There's a lot that can be analyzed and written about.

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u/Technical_Drawing838 avatar

Thanks for this review.

I'm a big fan of Coppola and so I was already looking forward to B'Twixt Now and Sunrise: The Authentic Cut but your review has made me look forward to it more because it sounds like this version has more of an emotional impact than the original.

I hope that I find this version more emotionally impactful than the original but even if I don't, I'll almost surely enjoy it anyway because, like I said, I'm a big fan of Coppola.

u/TheRealProtozoid avatar

It's still the same footage, but I think removing some of the hokier stuff (particularly the last four minutes), and going out on the emotional highpoint of the movie, it's now framed as a more serious mood piece and comes across more sincere and heartfelt. By comparison, I feel like Coppola was making the movie too silly on purpose to deflect from the fact that he made a deeply personal movie with kind of poor production values. Taking it less seriously reduced the risk. This is the riskier version. Less spoon-feeding of plot, less undercutting things with jokes, and a more earnest story.

u/Technical_Drawing838 avatar

That's good to hear. Twixt definitely seemed to be lacking emotional heft.

I remember, in the making of documentary, Coppola telling Elle Fanning that Twixt isn't a serious movie or something like that; so if this version is a more serious and heartfelt affair, I guess Coppola changed his mind.

Then again, considering that Twixt originated from a dream he had and includes scenes drawn from the tragedy of his son's death, I think maybe Twixt was always more serious in Coppola's mind than he let on; and now he decided to bring that out in the film more.

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Basically, yeah. I think the initial impulse was more serious, and it became sillier as he wrote it, and then Val Kilmer was a total goofball as well. Now the Poe character feels even more like Coppola is in dialogue with himself. By the way the new cut puts so much emphasis on the cliff sequence, and ending with Poe's line about how their work is a tomb to their dead loved ones, or something like that, the entire movie is recontextualized. Coppola seems to have finally absorbed his own advice, and gone back and reshaped the last forty minutes of the movie into something more about an artist discovering that he needs to stop avoiding dealing with his trauma and finally put it into his work. The implication is that Coppola, even before his son's death, was maybe a bit of a fuckup, and was even worse after his son's death, but in the past few years, he's made some kind of long-gestating breakthrough.

Something like that. I'm still thinking about the movie.

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u/Houli_B_Back avatar

I’m looking forward to checking this cut out.

I always liked how indie this one felt and and it’s weird tonal balance between goofy and grief, and it’s bare bones presentation and shoutouts to Poe.

Can’t wait to see what Coppola does with Megalopolis as well.

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[Spoilers] I just finished B’Twixed Now And Sunrise: The Authentic Cut” and I’m feeling somewhat unsatisfied. I deeply appreciate the style, the cast, the cinematography, the coloring, the whisper of sparkles on skin and fabric, and the concept as a vampire/ghost/murder-mystery story. I also respect the psychological angle of grief and shame, which is what I knew was coming and worried that’s all the film was going to be, and then that’s… what it was. I don’t generally like “and then they woke up” stories, either, which I feel erase an essence, unless it ties in solidly with the plot. I really like how the dream sequences do feel like dreams; that was amazingly-well developed. I got the sense that in Baltimore’s dream he tied the sheriff to the mass murderer, but it didn’t feel tangible enough to be set in the film’s reality since we know nothing about the murders, really; just a few vague newspaper clippings. My main criticism is that I was never sure if Virginia is tied to anything real other than Baltimore somewhat connecting her to his daughter. Did he make her up? Overall I felt the entire film was made of many loose ends; the wife, the check, the outline, the mystery, the ouija board occult scene, the ghost, what happened at the bell-tower and what was the purple gas? the book (did he ever write it and deliver or did he just want to use that to take prescriptions?), Flamingo and his crew, who was Virginia? (if she was real), was she indeed the girl on the table? Did Baltimore ever wake up or was that his dying dream before he was offed by the sheriff, did the sheriff even kill him, etc… I really wanted to go back to reality and see those loose ends wrapped up. But, with all that said, I can still appreciate the movie for what it is and accept that I don’t have those answers.

Oh, and also, from what you wrote, I think the last scene from the other version (Twixt) where he removes the stake would have been quite fun (albeit infuriating); because it would have meant that his dreams were generated by Virginia to get him to do that for her. It would also mean that the sheriff was effectively removing vampires (although not sure why he’d call them “sluts”). I will have to check that version out and see if I like it better.

u/TheRealProtozoid avatar

I saw the cut known as Twixt first and felt cheated by the fact that the movie spent all this time slowly upping the emotional stakes (no pun intended), and then went for a funny punchline ending that diminished them.

The earlier cut is definitely more commercial and conventionally satisfying, but was more forgettable in the long run (I first saw it over a decade ago). The conventional wrapup isn't as satisfying as you might think.

The B'Twixt cut is the one that made me see it as a personal work of art. Going out on an emotional high note and leaving the story more dreamlike and incomplete made it more haunting to me.

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Francis Ford Coppola? The guy who blacklisted the kid who Victor Salva raped? Great guy.

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Fair.

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u/Poirot76 avatar

some can help me to find this new cut, i try to buy the bluray version, but the director's cut is just for USA Region A player, someone is able to find a copy online? thanks in advance

u/TheRealProtozoid avatar

According to JustWatch, you can rent it from Apple+ or stream it with a free trial. Enjoy!

u/Poirot76 avatar

unfortunately not in Italy :(

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Please! someone can help me? i live in Italya, i've buyed the bluray but i can't read the american disk, inside the bluray i have the code for digital copy, but again in my country i can't able to download the digital version too. someone can help me to find a digital copy in 1080p to see this new cut? thank you so much

u/TheRealProtozoid avatar

Sorry, I have no idea.

u/BIGPUMPER20 avatar

Use a VPN to access or create whatever account you need to use to watch the digital copy.

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