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British Oi! and the 'anti-politics' music scene

krink

krink

I'll do it this afternoon
A couple of my friends who I consider pretty sound keep posting videos of very dodgy looking bands in my facebook feed. I had a look at them and they are all part of something called 'British Oi!' (basically, plodding 80s style 'street' punk sometimes with a more classic rock sound, sometimes with some crap metal-ish riffs). Bands like Skinfull, Crashed Out, Pressure 28 and Close Shave etc.

Now a lot of the lyrics are innocuous and about football, fighting, drinking and being a skinhead but there is also a common theme of 'we hate all politics' which seems to only mean being anti-red in practice. They have slogans like 'Oi! aint Red' but I can't find anything overtly anti-fascist/nazi. These bands seem happy to share stage with known fascists too.

There appears to be plenty of friendship/association with known fascists and dodgy bands who definitely are fascist on the 'scene' but nothing openly fascist/nazi directly attributed to these 'britsh oi!' bands.

Someone suggested it may be because the hardcore fascist rock/punk scene 'Blood and Honour' is at a very low-ebb in the UK that this is the only way these bands could make it as most promoters and labels would not touch openly fascists bands.

Anyway, maybe someone more in touch with the music scene like Trev HAGL may know more...anyone know anything?
 
frogwoman said:
pressure28 is dodgy, no idea about the others.
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I've met the bassist from Pressure 28, he was entirely pleasant and a laugh in my company. I also met his Brazilian girlfriend..... A solidly left-wing skinhead, former PCS rep, and his PCS rep wife knew him and we all met up for a drink when I was on union business in Leeds. The lead singer of the band is however a different kettle of fish.
 
Fedayn said:
I've met the bassist from Pressure 28, he was entirely pleasant and a laugh in my company. I also met his Brazilian girlfriend..... A solidly left-wing skinhead, former PCS rep, and his PCS rep wife knew him and we all met up for a drink when I was on union business in Leeds. The lead singer of the band is however a different kettle of fish.
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I think the singer from P28 Kev Gough is a fascist but the rest of the band - maybe not but in the 80s and early 90s they would not have been entertained by the punk scene I was part of because of their singer's fascist beliefs and some of the bands still doing the rounds like the Upstarts won't have them on the same bill.

butchersapron said:
Oh dear :D
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Even if he doesn't know anything about them I bet he still tries to sell a few oi! cds in this thread lol
 
krink said:
I think the singer from P28 Kev Gough is a fascist but the rest of the band - maybe not but in the 80s and early 90s they would not have been entertained by the punk scene I was part of because of their singer's fascist beliefs and some of the bands still doing the rounds like the Upstarts won't have them on the same bill.
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Gough certainly was/is yes.
 
Crashed Out are sound, good mates with Mensi .
Pressure 28 , well all kinds of stuff was exposed on Facebook about the singer
Skinfull were pictured on Facebook playing with some dodgy band , i forget who
Close Shave used to play with Skullhead

i'm waiting of Butchers coming along to give us his expert opinion
 
although i have to say i haven't listened to much Oi lately because as Krink said the majority (of British bands at least) these days are well dodgy - i don't care if they're all out nazis or not but if they come out with tory divide and rule shit like people on the dole are all workshy scum , they may as well be for all i care. Don't they realise THEY are in as much danger of being thrown on Cameron's scrapheap as anyone else?
 
krink said:
I think the singer from P28 Kev Gough is a fascist but the rest of the band - maybe not but in the 80s and early 90s they would not have been entertained by the punk scene I was part of because of their singer's fascist beliefs and some of the bands still doing the rounds like the Upstarts won't have them on the same bill.

Even if he doesn't know anything about them I bet he still tries to sell a few oi! cds in this thread lol
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you are a very cynical man . I might wait till i get the dodgy ones on there sold first ha ha
 
Fedayn said:
I've met the bassist from Pressure 28, he was entirely pleasant and a laugh in my company. I also met his Brazilian girlfriend..... A solidly left-wing skinhead, former PCS rep, and his PCS rep wife knew him and we all met up for a drink when I was on union business in Leeds. The lead singer of the band is however a different kettle of fish.
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ah ok,
 
There have been some good punk bands who were associated with oi! (red alert, sham 69, angelic upstarts, cockney rejects) and some decent bands who are definitely oi! (business, oppressed) but that's maybe for the music section!

Deareg said:
try typing "get off the fence"
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I just get loads of religious groups :D
 
krink said:
There have been some good punk bands who were associated with oi! (red alert, sham 69, angelic upstarts, cockney rejects) and some decent bands who are definitely oi! (business, oppressed) but that's maybe for the music section!

I just get loads of religious groups :D
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Fuck! No idea what's going on. Hope you took the opportunity to say a prayer. :)

Here is the link again just in case the last one was corrupt.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/103738279729470/
 
krink said:
Nope, nothing. I'm guessing it's a hidden group or something or my fb profile hasn't passed their security or something.
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It is invite only, but hadn't realised that it could not even be seen by non members. Could you view the RAF page?
 
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