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I will post evidence later that FBI agents created the first world trade center bombing. This is evidence they do not refute. They just put a different spin on it. With the fall of the Berlin Wall communism was no longer the boogeyman FBI agents could use as a pretense to break into your home,open your mail, tap you phone; with FBI agents implicated in voter fraud, the Martin Luther King assassination, the President Kennedy assassination, etc etc etc they desperately needed the Patriot Act. Using FBI provacteurs who organized and trained individuals who were willing to carry out the attacks , FBI agents were able to distance themselves from the acts using plausible denial. They learned from their mistakes in these two events to create 911 differently. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5723386,00.html Judge Backs Lawyer in FBI-Okla. City Link Friday March 31, 2006 4:01 AM By PAUL FOY Associated Press Writer SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - A federal judge on Thursday rewrote a sentence to clarify a ruling that had suggested Timothy McVeigh received help from paramilitary militias in the Oklahoma City bombing and that the government had an informant in the bombing conspiracy. U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball had issued a decision that called those two claims ``fact.'' Asked if he was endorsing the conspiracy theories, Kimball issued a new decision late Thursday to attribute both claims to a Salt Lake City lawyer. The lawyer, Jesse Trentadue, is trying to expose FBI evidence he contends will show the bureau was tipped to McVeigh's plans but failed to stop the Oklahoma City bombing. FBI officials have repeatedly refused to address Trentadue's claims. Trentadue is also trying to prove that his brother - a bank robber who died in federal custody after being picked up on a parole violation - was mistaken for an associate of McVeigh's in the frantic search for conspirators after the bombing, and was killed by federal agents during an interrogation gone awry. In his original 23-page decision, released late Wednesday, Kimball singled out one FBI teletype already released to Trentadue, but in heavily edited form. The judge, who has inspected the unedited version of the memo, first wrote: ``The plaintiff (Trentadue) points out the fact that this document indicates that there was an undercover operative in with Timothy McVeigh and members of the various militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh.'' The judge rewrote the sentence to eliminate the word ``fact'' and substitute: ``The plaintiff claims that this document indicates that there was an undercover operative in with Timothy McVeigh and members of the various militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh.'' Kimball's decision orders the FBI to redouble a search for investigative files that could reveal what agents knew about McVeigh before the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, but he said the bureau could black out some information about informants. McVeigh was executed in 2001 for the bombing that gutted a federal office building and killed 168. The judge said he found it ``troubling'' that the FBI's efforts to locate documents required by his earlier rulings have not turned up more memos, including ones the FBI's own files suggested existed at one time. ``While the FBI's failure to discover documents is not necessarily an indication of bad faith, it is puzzling that so many documents could be referenced but not produced,'' the judge wrote. The FBI is supposed to turn over any new documents it finds to Trentadue by June 2. Trentadue has obtained some FBI teletypes on his own and others under a Freedom of Information request, and he sued to force more disclosures. Kimball ruled in Trentadue's favor early on and ordered the release of some heavily edited teletypes, but the FBI vigorously fought any additional releases. At a November hearing the Justice Department asked Kimball to reconsider his earlier rulings and stop the disclosures. Kimball ruled the FBI did not have to produce teletypes that would reveal confidential informants among a white supremacist group in Oklahoma. But he ordered the FBI to renew a search for other documents. ``My assumption is the FBI will comply with the order,'' said Carlie Christensen, an assistant U.S. attorney who represented the FBI in court hearings here. ``On balance, we're quite pleased with the ruling.'' FBI officials declined comment. Trentadue's battle for FBI records is primarily motivated by his brother's bloody death. The U.S. Bureau of Prisons has said Kenneth Trentadue, 44, was found hanging by a bedsheet after gouging his neck with the crimped edge of a plastic toothpaste tube. Jesse Trentadue contends his brother was killed by federal agents during a vicious fight inside a one-man cell of a high-security wing at the Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma City, only weeks after McVeigh's indictment. In his decision, Kimball said Jesse Trentadue had ``unearthed significant evidence of foul play'' in his brother's death.
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From: "C. Emery" <chrisemery@cox.net> To: hardevidence@cosmicpenguin.com Date: 01 Apr 2006, 01:25:55 PM Subject: 911 - Pentagon - New OFFICIAL STORY page Russell, You're correct. The 'official story' of the Pentagon crash is very bizarre. It's shatters the cognitive dissonance paradigm And to think I've had people ask me to NOT research the 911 disaster. "to...withhold my comments and stick only with the Oklahoma City Bombing Case...". For heavens sake, the similarities as far as the planning, commission and cover-up are nearly duplicated from OKC to TWA 800 to 911. And the same cast of top level DOJ and FBI supervisors are involved. There is absolutely NO denying that! Charles Key and I have been invited to speak at the 911truth.org conference in Chicago this coming June. We will be hosting a workshop on both the OKC bombing and 911 and the similarities of both cases. See: http://www.911truth.org and the June 2006 calendar of events for more details. We will be covering the controlled demolition aspects, the corrupt investigations, the inept, irresponsibly written BPAT/ASCE summary reports and several dozen other points clarifying that the level of state sponsored terrorism within the U.S. has indeed escalated during the past eleven years. All for the ulterior motive of entering a war [a blatant coup of the Iraqi government] under false pretense against phantom terrorists that the CIA and U.S. / Israeli governments have trained and funded during the past forty years! I am deeply disturbed that I have no other choice than to state what appears to be obvious: This country has been hijacked by a small, corrupt group of people that have no regard for human life nor the letter of U.S. Constitutional or International law. And our Supreme Court appointed president and his criminal cabal are merely puppets at the beck and call of this same corrupt group. I think it is brilliant that you start with 'The Official Story' essay and suggest your readers progress to the introduction thereafter. Again, superb work with your presentation. Regards, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell Pickering To: sf911physicalevidence@cosmicpenguin.com ; hardevidence@cosmicpenguin.com Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:40 AM Subject: [HardEvidence]New OFFICIAL STORY page This is a consolidation of all the "official story" facts in one place. It turns out that it is more bizarre than our theories when you see it. http://www.pentagonresearch.com/summary.html Russell _______________________________________________ HardEvidence mailing list HardEvidence@cosmicpenguin.com http://lists.cosmicpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/hardevidence
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March 13, 2008 Robert Reich Says Telecoms Shouldn't Get Immunity for Spying for the NSA House Democrats are right to try to deny telecommunications companies protection from lawsuits over National Security Agency wiretaps, writes Robert Reich, a former labor secretary under President Clinton and now a professor of public policy at Berkeley. Im old enough to remember J. Edgar Hoovers FBI and Nixons CIA, and the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. But anyone whos even halfway sentient ought to know theres a Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. So youd think that executives at the nations biggest telecoms AT&T, Verizon, and so on would be alert to the possibility that government might illegally snoop on Americans. Yet these executives didnt blink an eye when the NSA came knocking. You want records of domestic phone calls Sure, help yourself E-mails Yeah, we got tons. Theyre yours! . . . Corporate executives have a duty to disobey government orders when they have reason to believe those orders are illegal or unconstitutional and make the government go to court to get what it wants. The duty to refuse is especially important when it comes to the nations telecoms, whose technological reach is extending deeper and deeper into our private lives. Sure, theres a delicate balance between fighting terrorism and protecting civil liberties. But thats for courts to decide - not spy agencies and not telecom executives.
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Marion Cotillard's 9/11 conspiracy theory

By Peter Allen in Paris

Last Updated: 2:38am GMT 04/03/2008

Oscar-winning Marion Cotillard was facing embarrasment with her new American public last night after it emerged that she doubted the official account of the September 11 attacks.

Update: Cotillard makes rapid U-turn after backlash

Read the French transcript of Marion Cotillard's interview

The 32-year-old French star has swept this year’s best actress awards, also receiving a Bafta, Golden Globe and a César for her performance as singer Edith Piaf in La Vie en Rose.


	Marion Cotillard questioned the September 11th attacks and the moon landings

Miss Cotillard, who earned under £1 million in 2007, could expect her Oscar success to significantly increase her earning power. She is due to start filming Public Enemies with Johnny Depp.

But the actress faces a potential backlash in the US over comments she made in an interview in France. Footage which surfaced on the internet showed her questioning the New York terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and the 1969 moon landing.

"I think we’re lied to about a number of things," she said, singling out September 11.

Referring to the two passenger jets flown into the World Trade Centre, Miss Cotillard said: "We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? There was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burned for 24 hours.

It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there [New York], in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed."

Miss Cotillard suggested that the towers, planned in the early 1960s, were an outdated "money sucker" which would have cost so much to modernise that it was easier to destroy them.

Turning to America’s space programme, she said: "Did a man really walk on the moon? I saw plenty of documentaries on it, and I really wondered. And in any case I don’t believe all they tell me, that’s for sure."

Miss Cotillard, who was born and brought up in Paris, made the comments on Paris Première – Paris Dernière (Paris First – Paris Last), a programme first broadcast a year ago.

They were largely ignored at the time, but appeared yesterday on a French website. Miss Cotillard’s film career began in Luc Besson’s 1998 film Taxi. She is an environmental activist, who once worked as a spokeswoman for Greenpeace.

News of Miss Cotillard’s comments comes at a time when Franco-American relations appear to be thawing, following Paris’s refusal to support the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

President Nicolas Sarkozy insists that he is pro-American, supporting so-called Anglo-Saxon economic reforms and going on holiday to America.

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http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=6900 April 6, 2008 Oklahoma City Bombing: What the Mainstream News Left Out "Fortunately, it didn't, because the second device that they found, we understand, was even more powerful than the first..........." - Reported by KFOR April 19, 1995. Multiple bombs ripped through the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City. As usual, Federal fingerprints were all over this tragic event. President Bill Clinton, taking his orders from the New World Order chieftains, needed a crisis to get his plans for a socialized America and gun control agenda through. Taking a page out of history’s handbook, Bill Clinton knew that a crisis of this magnitude, including endless images of mangled children would pull on the heartstrings of Americans. They would beg for the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act (S.735) that he had failed to pass just a year before. The bill absolutely eviscerated massive sections of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We have been investigating the Oklahoma City tragedy for over six years and the amount of evidence is staggering. Let’s just hit some of the key points: Oklahoma City’s NBC affiliate, KFOR, in a live broadcast immediately after the bombing, reported: “. . . devastation that that one explosion caused, because here is now what we are starting to learn about the succession, or what someone obviously hoped would be a succession of explosions. The first bomb that was in the Federal Building did go off. It did the damage that you see right there. The second explosive was found and defused. The third explosive that was found—and they are working on right now as we speak, I understand—both the second and third explosives—if you can imagine this—were larger than the first. So try to imagine two or threefold happening what we’ve already seen there. It is just incredible to think that there was that much heavy artillery that was somehow moved into the downtown Oklahoma City Federal Building.” A few minutes later, Oklahoma City CBS affiliate KWTV’s Jennifer Reynolds had the following to add: “We just saw, if you were watching, there was a white pickup truck backing a trailer into the scene. They are trying to move people out of the way so they can get it in. It appears to be the Oklahoma City bomb squad—their bomb disposal unit essentially is what it is—and it is what they would use if the report that we gave you just a few moments ago turns out to be correct, that they have found a second explosive device of some kind inside that building. They will back that trailer down there, and the bomb squad folks will go in and they will use that trailer. . . . This is how they would transport the explosive device away from this populated area to try to do something with it.” At the same time, CNN reported: “The Justice Department is reporting that a second explosive device has been found in the A.P. Murrah Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Mike, you’re still with us aren’t you?” [Mike Arnett, an attorney in downtown Oklahoma City, on phone with CNN] “Yes, and in addition to that, what we were told at the scene a few minutes ago was that in fact two different explosive devices were found in addition to the one that went off, for a total of three.” Another reporter for KWTV stated: “It has now been confirmed through federal authorities that a second bomb has been found inside that federal building in Oklahoma City. It was an explosion at 9:00 this morning that did that damage you’re look at right there—blowing off the entire north face of that building. Again, you’re looking at the north face. A second bomb was found on the east side of that building. A bomb squad is on the scene. That second bomb has not exploded. We don’t know quite the status yet—if they have managed to defuse it—but it has been confirmed that a second bomb has been found on the east side.” Oklahoma governor Frank Keating, on the telephone with reporters, said: “The report that I have is that one device was deactivated. Apparently there is another device, and obviously whatever did the damage to the Murrah Building was a tremendous, very sophisticated explosive device.” KFOR also reported: “President Clinton just called Governor Frank Keating. He says that three FBI anti-terrorist teams are en route to Oklahoma City right now. They are saying that this is the work of a sophisticated group. This is a very sophisticated device and it has to have been done by an explosives expert, obviously with this type of explosion.” A doctor on the street outside the carnage told reporters: “The medical teams downtown are unable to get into the wreckage to retrieve more of the injured because of the presence of other bombs in the area.” KWTV reported: “I just took a look down the street at the Murrah Building again. I see another bomb truck going, so apparently they are going to try to get out that third bomb that’s been talked about. Still a lot of activity around the Murrah Building . . . security concerns that another one could go off.” KFOR also reported: “Fortunately, it didn’t, because the second device that they found, we understand, was even more powerful than the first. They then found a third device. You can see the look on this woman’s face—the fear that she might have to go through the same thing again. They then found a third device, which was also larger than the first. Hard to feel lucky at this point, but certainly through some good work by some munitions experts and the explosive sniffing dogs, further tragedy has certainly been averted here.” Terrorism expert Dr. Randall Hearther had this to say: “It was a great stroke of luck that we have actually got defused bombs. It’s through the bomb material that we will be able to track down who committed this atrocity.” It would have been an incredible help to have been able get a hold of those unexploded bombs. Unfortunately the BATF agents, according to police and firefighter testimony, were inside removing them and spiriting them away, because they had to keep their story straight (that there was only one bomb, a truck bomb). Out of hundreds of people we interviewed, we couldn’t find a single person who said they’d only heard one explosion. One witness, Charles Williams, who worked in downtown Oklahoma City at the time of the bombing, said unequivocally that he felt two blasts very close together. It is historical fact, part of the public record, that there were multiple devices inside the Oklahoma City building and that there were at least two explosions. The emergency radio transmission transcripts show clearly that the police and firefighters witnessed the BATF removing unexploded devices. We also have the scientific evidence. The University of Oklahoma’s own seismographic reports, as well as the U.S. Geological Survey reports—two different scientific institutions—show multiple explosions. But for there to have been multiple explosions, Timothy McVeigh would have had to have accomplices . . . and that didn’t fit in with the federal story, especially if the reality showed that it had to be a group that had access to a federal building for long, extended periods of time, like the BATF and the FBI. General Benton K. Partin, former head of Air Force Weapons Development with thirty-plus years running the Air Force Weapons Development Program, has multiple engineering degrees. General Partin was amazed by press reports claiming that the building had been blown in and that a truck bomb could cause that damage, when even a basic understanding of explosive signatures shows that the building was blown not from the outside in, but from the inside out. Within days of the blast, General Partin was on the scene. He was, of course, barred access. Thankfully, from video as well as photographs of the columns, it was obvious to his trained eye that the columns had been blown off by shaped charges. In a detailed report, the former head of Air Force Weapons Development laid out the physics, the mathematics of this truth. In his report, he stated that it was a physical impossibility that a truck bomb—even made with military-grade explosives—could even begin to generate the explosive force that was brought against the Oklahoma City Federal Building. Now the seismographs come in. The seismographs first registered one distinct explosion, and then a group of explosions so close to each other that they could not be separated. You see, the Feds had to have a diversionary blast. They had to be able to tell the world that it was one lone nut—Timothy McVeigh—out front. They needed McVeigh’s truck bomb outside so that they could cover the fact that there were actually explosives inside the structure. If you look at the actual crater that the supposed truck bomb generated, it was so small that it could hardly be measured. However,in later media reports that explosion grew bigger and bigger and bigger (Newsweek, May 1, 1995). Another key piece of evidence that General Partin raised was that a single bomb explosion could not account for the failure of columns that were farther away at the back of the building compared to the non-failure of columns that were much closer to the supposed truck bomb blast. He concluded that the asymmetrical nature of the damage to the Murrah Building was one indication that shaped demolition charges were used in the bombing. In modern history, thousands of buildings of every type and design have been destroyed commercially to make way for new structures. But that didn’t matter to the BATF, the federal government, or the media. They turned structural engineering on its head, demanding and telling the world that a single truck bomb actually did this damage, even though the blast’s signature clearly showed that the building had been blown out, not in. Not only was the scientific and engineering world shocked with disbelief, but the general public wasn’t buying the story either. They had seen what had happened. Read this news report from Channel Four that aired live on the day of the tragedy: “Some of the floors have just crashed together. I mean, there are some points where you just literally can’t get in at all. And then from Chopper 4, at some particular points we could see all the way through the building. That’s the force of the explosion. It just blew out the walls and everything inside.” Outraged by the federal cover-up, leaders from across Oklahoma, led by State Representative Charles Key, banded together to write The Final Report—550 pages detailing this criminal federal operation. Now let’s look at the cowardice of the BATF agents. You see, they received a warning . . . but they didn’t pass it on to the children in the daycare center. On KFOR, the Oklahoma City NBC affiliate, a reporter speaks with eyewitnesses who were working inside the Federal building with agents of the BATF. Their faces were blacked out to protect their identities: Witness’ Employer Speaks: ‘What he told him is that he thought they had received a tip that morning of the bomb.’ Reporter: Yet another witness, a rescue worker, says after she talked with an agent at the bombing scene she also suspected the ATF was warned and agents stayed away from their office. Witness: ‘I asked him if his office was in the building, and he said yes. And I asked if there were any ATF agents still in the building and he said, “No we weren’t here.” Reporter: Witness #1 approached an ATF agent nearby. He claims he asked the agent what had happened and Witness #1 said this is what the agent told him: Witness: ‘He started getting a little bit nervous. He tried reaching someone on a two-way radio. Couldn’t get anybody. I told him I wanted an answer right then. He said they were in the briefing. None of the agents had been in there. They had been tipped by their pagers not to come into work that day. Plain as day out of his mouth—they were tipped. Why wasn’t anybody else? There was a lot of people, good people, died down there, and if they knew, they should have let everybody else know.’” Oklahoma City paramedic Tiffany Bible, who heroically responded with her unit just minutes after the blast on April 19, 1995, swore in an affidavit that when she arrived the BATF was in full mock gear. Bomb gear takes at least thirty minutes to put on. When she asked them, “Oh my goodness, were you guys hurt inside the blast?” they said, “No, we got tipped off by our pagers not to come in today.” Linda Cavanaugh, a reporter for KFOR News, reported: “Were agents forewarned about a bomb in Oklahoma City? Did they know the Murrah Building was a target? The ATF says no, absolutely not. But tonight in a story you will see only on the NewsChannel, you are about hear otherwise from people who were at the Murrah Building that morning. Woman Speaks: ‘We’re asking simple questions and we can’t get any answers, so it makes us that much more curious, you know. Where the hell were they?’ Linda Cavanaugh: The NewsChannel did ask for a private meeting with ATF officials to discuss the credibility of these witness reports, but the ATF refused saying they had no more to say on the subject.” Spin doctors say Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, and so did Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City. And we’re told to believe it,but hundreds of eyewitnesses reported seeing Middle Eastern men crawling all over this operation. Let’s look at John Doe #2. KFOR Interview: “As I sat there, I seen that McVeigh was with another person.” Interviewer: “Do you have any doubt in your mind that there was a passenger in the Ryder truck?” Witness: “Even more, I have no doubt there was. There was definitely a second person, no matter what. There was two people in this vehicle.” Representative Charles Key stated: “John Doe #2—there was a $2 million price put on his head. And now they are saying there was no John Doe #2.” KFOR showed surveillance video of a man running away from the Ryder truck and reported the following: “Our witnesses picked out a photo line-up. The NewsChannel shared the information and surveillance tapes of this man with FBI. They have had some of that material long before our reports went on the air. Witness: ‘I was standing in the building and I looked out the window and seen the Ryder truck and I seen a man get out the Ryder truck.’ Reporter: She was just ten feet away from the man depicted in this sketch when he stepped out of the Ryder truck. Witness: ‘He was olive complexion and he was . . . he had black curly hair. He was wearing a baseball cap but his curls were sticking out of his hat. It was short in the back but you could still the curls in his hair. He was not American. He was foreign. You can tell by his skin, his face, the way his face was.’ Reporter: We asked FBI spokesman Dan Vogel, ‘Is John Doe #2 still part of the investigation? Does he exist?’ The answer: ‘Yes, we are still trying to locate and identify John Doe #2.’ The man in our reports is Iraqi. Today the FBI says they ‘are not pursing a Middle Eastern connection. This doesn’t mean it has been ruled out. That could change tomorrow.’” State, local, and federal police around the country actually detained dozens of Middle Eastern men trying to exit the country, many of whom were former Iraqi Republican Guard officers like Al-Hussaini Hussain, who worked at the Boston airport. Despite all this evidence, the Clinton Justice Department said to release them, that they did not want to talk to them, and that there was no Middle Eastern connection. In the making of this book, our team has interviewed scores of former and current FBI agents, police officers, and detectives who were on the scene and worked the case. They confirmed that they detained members of the Iraqi Republic Guard who were trying to flee the United States. They would search their bags and find blue jogging suits and bomb making materials. They would try to hold them, try to charge them. According to my sources, they could have convicted these men in front of a jury. Still Bill Clinton demanded their release. Later I interviewed David Schippers, the man that impeached Bill Clinton, the man that brought down the mob in Chicago. Mr. Schippers stated that the Oklahoma City bombing team was made up of the same people involved in the World Trade Center attack on September 11. The grand plan of the Feds begins to unfold. The evidence shows that the Iraqis were brought to the United States after the Gulf War, that they had previously been trained in the 1980’s for the war with Iran, and that they are now working for the shadow government, i.e. the national security dictatorship. So when the Feds need a crisis to distract the public we all better look out. Local television stations raised the obvious question: If McVeigh acted alone, why was the Federal Government refusing steadfastly to release the surveillance tapes? KFOR’s Kevin Ogle reported: “The details are chilling. We’ll also focus on surveillance cameras —cameras that caught the bombing on tape . . . and maybe the men behind the bombing. The NewsChannel has new information tonight that there’s a chance that surveillance tapes could be the smoking gun evidence. We asked candid questions in a rare face-to-face meeting with ATF officials close to the investigation. We learned that video collected from downtown businesses the morning of April 19 may someday be played before a jury. Officials won’t say who or what exactly is on the tape. However, numerous sources have confirmed the tapes exist and that they reveal more than one bomber.” Jayna Davis, another reporter for KFOR, reported: “This is a question we have all been asking. We’ve been asking that question since we first broke the story that surveillance cameras aimed at the Federal Building could have captured all those involved on tape. Sources have confirmed those tapes exist, and that they show more than one bomber. The FBI also confirmed those tapes exist when they refused to release them, claiming the video is part of a criminal investigation. Now for the first time, we get an on-the-record response from the head of the Dallas office, ATF. We learned that video could be unveiled as part of the prosecution’s case. No officials will discuss specifically what is on the video, but we have been able to recreate some of what may have been captured by downtown surveillance cameras through the eyes of the witnesses. You are looking at a computer recreation of the final movements of the Ryder truck according to the people who crossed its path at 5th and Harvey moments before the explosion. Tonight at 10:00 the witnesses will detail their memories of how they believe the suspects carried out the crime and made their getaway. All these accounts share a common and unsettling similarity. The witnesses say they saw several accomplices, including the infamous John Doe Number 2. ATF officials tell us the elusive John Doe is still part of this case, but will not comment any further. However, they did tell us there is a lot about this case we don’t know yet—information you can’t find in the indictment against Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier.” Another report on KFOR said this: Kelly Ogle: “It was just hours after the bombing when the NewsChannel first told you about the possibility that surveillance cameras may have captured the explosion—and the killers—on tape. Our sources and sources for the LA Times describe what is actually on those tapes. The information shows some huge surprises. The biggest: that it may have been John Doe Number 2, not Timothy McVeigh, who detonated the bomb. Brad Edwards has the latest in this exclusive NewsChannel report. Brad Edwards: “Our new information comes directly from a source that has seen parts of those surveillance tapes. It also comes from reports now in the Los Angeles Times. But perhaps the biggest surprise is contained in the NewsChannel’s own information. Timothy McVeigh was not the last person to leave the Ryder truck. In fact, another person sat inside the cab of the truck after McVeigh got out. We believe that man is John Doe Number 2, a man who, for all we know, is still on the loose, leaving open a vital question: Was it John Doe Number 2 who actually set off the bomb, not Timothy McVeigh as we’ve all been led to believe? NewsChannel 4 has for weeks been demanding copies of the surveillance tapes from the FBI. The federal government so far is dragging its feet, but many people in the investigation have seen the tapes, and now so has a source willing to describe to the NewsChannel what the tapes show. The LA Times report shows there was a surveillance camera near the corner of 5th and Harvey, and another near the corner of 5th and Robinson. Federal investigators recreated the time sequence leading up to the bombing by matching the video and still photos from the surveillance cameras. Since we can’t show you the tapes ourselves, we’re reenacting what our source says he saw on those tapes. As witnesses told the NewsChannel before, the tapes show the Ryder truck parked in front of the Murrah Building where we now know the blast went off. As witnesses also told us, the tapes showed two men sitting inside the Ryder truck. A man strongly resembling Timothy McVeigh gets out of the driver’s side, steps down. He then appears to have dropped something on the step up into the truck. He bends down and appears to pick something up off the step. Then, he turns and walks directly across 5th Street through the Journal Record building. All this time, John Doe Number 2 is still inside the Ryder truck sitting on the passenger side. Time passes. The surveillance tape is time-lapsed photography. Without knowing exactly the time interval between shots our source can’t be sure how long John Doe Number 2 sat in that cab. What was he doing all of that time? Then the tape shows John Doe Number 2 getting out of the passenger side of the Ryder truck. Again, the tape shows that a bombing witness accurately described what happened next to NewsChannel 4: ‘I was standing in the building and I looked out the window and I seen the Ryder truck and I seen a man get in the Ryder truck.’ The tape shows John Doe Number 2 getting out, shutting the passenger side door. He steps toward the front of the truck and is momentarily out of the frame of the surveillance camera. But shortly he appears back in frame walking toward the rear of the truck, still on the sidewalk in front of the Murrah Building. Again he turns east toward the front of the truck, looking toward the street. John Doe Number 2 then walks diagonally across 5th Street toward the east, as if heading toward the YMCA or the intersection of 5th and Robinson. He again leaves the frame of the camera. Another camera shooting from another angle clearly shows the actual explosion that destroyed the Federal Building and killed 169 people. So what does the mysterious John Doe Number 2 look like in the tapes? The man who stayed inside the Ryder truck, possibly triggering the bomb? His features are obscured by a baseball cap on the portion of tape seen by our source, the same kind of cap shown on the composite drawing first released of John Doe Number 2. The cap was a sports cap, flame style. The man himself was taller than the man resembling McVeigh, and much thicker in build. He appears to have a dark or olive complexion. Our source saw only a few minutes of tape. He didn’t see all of the almost twenty minutes of surveillance tapes that reportedly were distributed to FBI agents around the country to help in their investigation. But they do show enough to raise some crucial questions: Who actually set off the bomb? What was John Doe Number 2 doing in the cab of the truck after the McVeigh lookalike got out? And, how did John Doe Number 2 get away from the Murrah Building? [Rep. Charles Key says] ‘My understanding is there was a video of McVeigh getting out of the Ryder truck, jumping into this other pickup with John Doe Number 2. Where is that video? Are we ever going to get to see it?’ Do you realize what you have just read? The government had multiple surveillance camera tapes. In fact, it finally came out in court (when the federal government declared in 2001 that they wouldn’t release the videotapes because of national security implications) that there were actually twelve surveillance cameras tapes showing different Islamic individuals, Arabic men in company with McVeigh and others. The cameras also show the BATF agents hiding out right down the street, preparing to pounce on the operation and declare themselves the heroes, the saviors, and the victims. Think about it. In 2001 and into 2002, the federal government has claimed national security and refused to release twelve-plus surveillance camera tapes. What have they been hiding? The Feds never tried to use these tapes in court. If the tapes showed Timothy McVeigh pulling up alone and bombing the building, and if it were just a truck bomb, why not use these tapes to prove McVeigh’s guilt as the sole perpetrator? Why didn’t they use the tapes? What’s on them? After you have seen all this evidence, it is clear: federal involvement. They are ratcheting up the police state right here in America, and they are using manufactured terrorist events to get the job done. According to an article run on January 19, 2002 in WorldNetDaily entitled “Was FBI early arrival in Oklahoma City? —Hotel receipt shows top terror man showed up 9 hours before blast,” Danny Culson, the FBI’s top counter-terrorism agent, checked into an Oklahoma City hotel nine hours before multiple blasts tore through the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Embassy Suites Hotel receipt for Danny Culson, the director of the FBI’s Terrorist Task Force and founding commander of the Bureau’s Hostage Team, was dated April 19, 1995, with a check-in time of 0020. That’s military time for 12:20 a.m.—almost nine hours before the blast. But Chief Agent Culson lied to the America. He told a Time magazine reporter in 1999 the harrowing tale of how he sped at over a hundred miles an hour from his home in Dallas to get there after the bombing to save people and conduct an investigation. Coincidentally, the FBI won’t release any of the credit card statements and records for any of their agents. What are they trying to hide? “The system wasn’t working. Going through the system didn’t work. I did everything they advised me to do. It didn’t do any good.” —Hoppy Heidelberg, dismissed grand juror Hoppy Heidelberg was an upstanding member of the community with no criminal record. He had been a grand juror for years, but when he started asking questions about the Middle Eastern connection, FBI prior knowledge, and BATF involvement, the FBI had the bravado to come to his house brandishing firearms and to tell him to shut his mouth if he knew what was good for him. When he refused to be part of the cover-up and demanded that he be able to call witnesses as was his right as a grand juror, the judge kicked him off the case. In another bizarre twist, Martin Keating, Governor Frank Keating’s brother, wrote a novel entitled The Final Jihad. In the book, a Tom McVeigh masterminds the bombing of an Oklahoma City Federal building. Keating’s brother dedicated the book to the Knights of the Secret Circle, a term used by members of the Illuminati when they talk about their organization. Martin Keating wrote the book two years before the bombing. KFOR’s Linda Cavanaugh made this report, which pertains to this novel: “The NewsChannel has learned of another strange development. Apparently, before the bombing, Governor Frank Keating’s brother, Martin, had been working on a novel about terrorist bombing in Oklahoma City. Stranger still, one of the characters in the novel was named Thomas McVeigh. Excerpt from 9/11: The Road to Tyranny by Alex Jones
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Danny Westneat

His dreams soar despite the distrust

Danny Westneat

Seattle Times staff columnist

For American Muslims since 9/11, few acts could be considered more ill-advised or foolishly provocative than enrolling in flight school to get your pilot's license.

Which is why Monem Salam had to do it.Well, proving a point wasn't the sole reason. Salam has dreamed of being a pilot since he was a boy in Pakistan. He was drawn to Bellingham Airport by the same force as everyone in his beginner's class. He wanted to touch the sky.

It's just that the others didn't have everyone they knew telling them they were nuts.

"I heard it over and over, from all the Muslims I spoke to," Salam said recently from his Bellingham office, shortly after his noon prayer.

"They'd say: 'Are you crazy, Monem? Are you trying to make trouble for yourself?' "

Behind the doubts loomed 9/11. A sense that life for American Muslims fundamentally changed that day. Why poke that bee's nest of suspicion? Why not lay low?

"And yet every non-Muslim I spoke to urged me to go for it, to follow my dream," he said. "It made me wonder: Are we Muslims afraid of something that is not really there?"

So Salam, a 35-year-old adviser for an Islamic mutual fund, went to the airport to ask around about pilot training. Then he enrolled in a flight school, Bellingham Aero.

The next day, the FBI showed up, asking questions about him. He was the school's first student ever to attract the scrutiny of the FBI. Even though he has been a U.S. citizen since 1986.

"My Muslim friends were all saying 'See?' " Salam says. "They said it was inevitable I'd end up on a watch list."

Maybe someone at the airport got suspicious and decided better safe than sorry. Salam doesn't know. It happens, often enough that when he's in airports as a passenger, he'll hide behind a ticket counter or a flight info board to bow down in prayer to Allah.

It's all part of Flying While Muslim.

But this story, Salam says, "is not about victimization." This time, a funny thing happened on the way to our usual pigeonholes. We stopped ourselves.

The good folks at Bellingham Aero soothed the FBI and encouraged Salam. Though one non-Muslim friend admitted his gut reaction to Salam's pilot lessons was "He's a terrorist," Salam resisted the lure of paranoia.

Last summer, he earned that pilot's license. He adheres to Sharia — Islamic religious law — so he couldn't celebrate with a drink. He jumped up and down, hooting and hollering. Later he flew, heart soaring, out over the San Juans.

All this is captured in a new film, "On a Wing and a Prayer: An American Muslim Learns to Fly." It will air on KCTS Channel 9 in Seattle, at 10 p.m. May 20.

Salam says mostly what you hear about Muslims are stories of righteous anger. And what you hear about America and Muslims are stories of distrust.

"My story is that anybody in America, including Muslims, who has a dream can go out and fulfill it," he said. "There are obstacles but you can't assume this country is against you. If you do, it becomes self-fulfilling."

I don't know if that's headline news. But it ought to be.

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Corrupted probe continues to reverberate Posted: April 11, 2008 1:00 am Eastern © 2008 Lurking behind the massive cancellation of flights this week due to faulty wiring is the explosion of TWA Flight 800 off New York's Long Island in July 1996 that killed all 230 people on board. Although the plane in question was a Boeing 747, not an MD-80, the disaster, as the AP and other news sources have faithfully reported, "was blamed on fuel vapors ignited by wiring." USA Today, in fact, quotes Bernard Loeb, the National Transportation Safety Board honcho, as saying that fuel tank issues are "very serious matters." Loeb should know. As head of the TWA Flight 800 investigation, he did everything in his power to show how one could blow. In fact, however, in its effort to avoid the obvious missile strike, the NTSB never got beyond rank speculation as to the cause of the TWA Flight 800 disaster. To make the "fuel vapors ignited by wiring" theory work, the NTSB needed to establish at least two critical points. The first was that the fuel-air mixture in the center wing tank was sufficiently volatile that the least spark could set it off. The second was that the aircraft was capable of spontaneously generating that spark. (Column continues below) The theoretical spark itself would require two separate causes of its own – a break in the insulation of the wiring and a breakdown in the system that limits the strength of the current through those wires. All these conditions were fully necessary to validate any mechanical theory for TWA Flight 800's destruction. As the investigation evolved, NTSB officials steered their efforts to the realm of what scientists call the "unfalsifiable," the realm where theories can neither be proved nor disproved. In early November 1996, Loeb told CBS's Ed Bradley that static electricity from a faulty Wiggins coupler most likely triggered the explosion. Loeb neglected to add that there was no evidence that any Wiggins coupler was faulty. The FBI's James Kallstrom was reportedly furious at this indiscretion, but NTSB Chairman Jim Hall reassured Kallstrom that the NTSB "has more leeway to speculate because we're not bound by criminal legal standards." With or without the Wiggins coupler, static electricity stood as Loeb's "pet theory." It remained so, as AP reporter Patricia Milton noted, until "scientists at Wright Patterson laboratories had proved unable to produce a single scenario under which static electricity could have caused a significant spark." After many fruitless experiments by outside labs, the NTSB contracted with Combustion Dynamics "to evaluate the consistency between the computer calculations of the full-scale CWT [center wing tank] combustion model and other information and evidence obtained during the investigation." The NTSB had hoped "that by conducting this evaluation ... it would be possible to narrow the number of probable ignition location(s) within the CWT." This hope was in vain. The NTSB had to concede defeat yet again: "Therefore, the rules-based analysis did not provide a definitive determination regarding the probability that any given location within the CWT was the ignition location." With all of its investigative hypotheses reduced to rubble, the NTSB chose to reconstruct the results itself in a way more to its liking: "Finally, analysis of the results of computer modeling of combustion in a full-scale CWT under conditions simulating those of TWA Flight 800 indicated that a localized ignition of the flammable vapor could have generated pressure levels that, based upon failure analysis, would cause the damages observed in the wreckage of the accident airplane's CWT." Note all the "coulds" and "woulds." No outside scientific agency or person had made such a statement. In fact, all contracted testing and analysis ran counter to the NTSB speculation. Even Patricia Milton, whose book on the crash – "In the Blink of An Eye" – read like an FBI defense brief, had to acknowledge that the CWT pieces retrieved and studied in one simulated explosion after another "bore no resemblance to those of Flight 800." She consoled herself, however, with the thought that the government was at least "proving negatives." By the year 2000, the NTSB had exhausted just about all possible scientific testing that might have reinforced its wiring and fuel vapor scenarios. The scientific community had too much integrity to validate desperate theories either about fuel volatility or ignition sources. Accordingly, the NTSB ceased scientific inquiry along these lines. From that point forward the board descended from modern science to old-fashioned alchemy and summed it all up in a fable worthy of Harry Potter, titled "Factors Suggesting the Likelihood that a Short-Circuit Event Occurred on TWA Flight 800." In this report, aimless speculation goes on and on and on to the point of absurdity, considering the NTSB's acknowledgement that the computer modeling done by the two research laboratories – Sandia National Laboratory and Christian Michelsen Research – had failed. "The results of that modeling could not be used to determine the most likely ignition location," said the report. The NTSB officials, in fact, knew the whole exercise was a failure. At the final NTSB hearing, an honest staffer, Joseph Kolly, came to the following reluctant conclusion: "The search for the probable ignition location was pushed to the limits of current technology. An accounting of the scientific uncertainties was meticulously maintained throughout the entire experimental, computational, and analytic processes. "In the end, the uncertainties were too great to permit the identification of the probable location of ignition." No, Joseph, the uncertainties were not too great at all. The ignition source was a missile. Mr. Loeb just did not let you in on it.
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April 13, 2008 at 20:30:03 The mission to crack the 911 case gains traction by Michael McCoy http://www.opednews.com After shouting from the rooftops for months, regularly aggrevating friends and acquaintences and pestering outright strangers standing in line at the grocery store about the travesty of the 911 attacks, I am relieved to see that the movement to get to the truth is gaining legitimate traction. A sober examination of the events of 911 by a growing number of once-duped Americans is well under way, bolstered by an impressive collection of professionals in a wide variety of fields. For good reason, the taboo once attached to questioning your government is fading, and the deliberate, insidious lies and procedures that cloaked the facts about the horrible attacks - and later lured the American public and Congress to support the Iraq catastrophe - shows the practical results of what persons of highest power - engaged in the worst kind of group-think - with previously unimaginable motives and without conscience are capable of. Even as skillfull and determined as the detractors have been, with the presumed legitimacy of a federal government as their chief sponsor, the collective lightbulb is beginning to glow brightly about the official obfuscation of the truth, the motives behind - and the actual results of the 911 attacks. Any five significant elements of the largest crime and mass murder in US history simply doesn't pass the smell test of the average eigth grader. And taken in tandem, the excuses/apologies leading to the massive failures in predicting and preventing the attacks - along with the 'offical story' quickly presented to the public in the aftermath - would cause a second-rate, drunken defense attorney in an actual trial to laugh hysterically at the presiding judge. Not one shred of the 911 Commission's final report was subjected to the most basic of evidentiary scrutiny or verification. And each and every fact from an immense collection of contradictory evidence had to be carefully and deliberately ignored in order to prop up the official version. The report is, in it's very essense, a carefully woven fairy tale created while navigating a minefield of political agendas. None of them, as is now obvious, were honorable. The first public announcement from the newly formed 911 Investigative Commission was, "... we're not out to blame anyone..." George Bush vigorously and repeatedly blocked the formation of any investigation into the attacks of 911. He succeeded for over fourteen months until pressure from the 911 victim's families and the general public caused him to relent. And the political wrangling that made the investigation of the Iran/Contra debacle look like a grade school prank was on. Simply stated, the 911 Commission was formed as a body determined from the start to support the 'official version' of the events on 911, to the exclusion of volumes of contradictory evidence - and myriad documents and witness testimony to the contrary. A grand apology, for a grand and extraordinary sequence of utter failures of the political, intelligence and military apparatus of the United States. Yet a complete list of the nineteen alleged suicide hijackers, their photos and connections to al Quaeda and bin Laden was being broadcasted by the mainstream bullhorn across the United States within hours - even though no Arab names were found on any passenger list of the hijacked flights. Lo and behold, America's new enemy is quickly indentified and located. I bought it, and so did you - admit it. I admit that I didn't have the courage to question, to doubt, to look closely. Few did at the time. Immediately following the attacks, we Americans had an enemy to replace the former Soviet Union - this time, a worldwide scourge to confront. Military spending and activity could be restored - even incresed - with new and wonderful weapons systems and places to use them. With public cohesion restored, we could all surrender a few of our constitutional rights, just a few at first, to insure that our protectors, with wonderful new powers, could weed out the evil residing among us - and abroad. And the US could begin the long-sought return to the world's center stage with an attack in Afghanistan, the home base of the accused, and remarkably, a long-recognized area of US strategic concern. Then, with a solid foothold in, and access to the Caspian Basin's massive oil reserves secured, a campaign of fear and revenge would soon turn toward Iraq, yet another US strategic concern. After all, Weapons of Mass Destruction are a serious matter to fear and a connection between Iraq and al Qaeda called for revenge... I mean justice, of course.. Wait - was it Saddam bin Laden or Osama Hussein? No matter - in the end, a mix of fear and revenge is a winning combination for public cohesion, right? In fact, with only cursory review, each known, main objective of the members of The Project for a New American Century was miraculously being realized. Some of the members may be familiar - to include Bolton, Feith, Jeb Bush, Libby, Perle, Armitage, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and of course, Cheney. What a silver lining hath a terrible attack such as 911. A bit of groundwork. A few crucial facts too long overlooked, seldom connected, that cannot be disputed: The World Trade Center Towers, were in fact, a growing economic disaster widely recognized by inner circles since shortly after their completion in the early 70's. The substantial construction flaws came to be a major embarrassment and the required repairs/rennovations for these immense structures over the years for safety and infrastructure purposes - including hundreds of millions in costs for upcoming, legally required asbestos removal - was daunting. Ignoring these fundmental, mounting economic realities may result in missing the reasons that the Trade Center Towers were 'terrorists targets' - twice within eight years. President Bush's younger brother Marvin was a member of the board of directors of the company that furnished security for the World Trade Center Complex. His company also provided security for Logan International Airport, (departure point for Flights 175 and 11, both of which stuck the WTC towers), and Dulles International Airport, (departure point for Flight 77 that struck the Pentagon). His company's contract was scheduled to expire on September 11, 2001. Numerous long-term, World Trade Center Tower employees described regular, highly unusual, and unexplained construction sounds eminating from distant floors of the buildings, months and weeks before the attacks. The North Tower experienced an announced, yet unprecedented power disruption, ostensibly for improvements and renovation during most of the weekend before 911. Entire security systems were rendered non-funtional and a number of witnesses reported a litany of unusual activity by groups of mysterious people, sometimes with large equipment that required wheels to move, often during the night. No video cameras worked. On 911, each of the WTC towers was struck at a floor containing a major, highly secure computer center - having received recent, significant upgrades and repairs. World Trade Center 7, also known as the Solomon Brothers Building, collapsed at 5:20 PM later in the day of the attacks as a resilt of scattered fires fueled by emergency tanks of diesel fuel. The building was struck by flying debris from the earlier collapse of WTC1. Each of the fifty-eight structural steel columns around the perimeter of the fourty-seven story building, and the twenty-five internal core columns failed simultaneously resulting in a global collaspe allowing the building to largely fall into it's basement and footprint. Once again, and to be clear - eighty-three vertical, steel columns throughout the building's superstructure, including the columns at each of the four corners of the building completely failed at the same moment. The 911 Commission stated flatly that it could not determine the cause of the collapse of WTC-7. A stunning array of warnings eminated from no less than eleven foreign intelligence agencies including France, Germany, the UK, Italy, and Russia in the months and weeks before the 911 attacks. Some that were especially specific and warning of hijackings of commercial jets to be used as missles against US targets. The chief counter-terrorism expert under four presidents had been removed from the president's inner circle months before by the National Security Advisor to the President, Condoleezza Rice. His daily, documented warnings about "an intelligence warning system blinking red" went ignored. He was repeatedly denied an audience with the president. Daily Presidential Briefs, (daily updated assessments of the most important national security threats), including one titled "bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States", were also being ignored. At least two separate FBI investigations of young, hostile Arab men training at flight schools were halted by their supervisors. Various mid-level FBI managers instructed entire teams of translators of intelligence documents to allow the system to back up, ostensibly in order to acquire additional funding. A number of crucial documents were found to have been included in this backlog that clearly indicted an impending, unprecedented attack on US soil. Several supervisors of the Middle east section of the FBI later admitted to suffering from "warnings fatigue". The chief hijacker, Mohammad Atta, received $100,000 in funding for the 911 operation weeks before the attacks from a Pakistani Intelligence Chief who was having breakfast with two high ranking US intelligence officials on Capital Hill - at the moment that the airliners struck the Trade Center Towers in New York. Several of the hijackers implicated in the attacks by the FBI had prior associations with various federal agencies and officials. Five Israeli intelligence officers that videotaped the 911 attacks in New York from across the Hudson River were arrested, questioned and released by the FBI. Three of these agents were later interviewed on a Dutch television program and they each admitted to having been sent - days before - to document the event. In the months before the attacks, George Bush personally intervened, and instructed the FBI to "back off" their ongoing investigations into the bin Laden family. Vice-president Richard Cheney, four months prior to the 911 attacks, was granted complete command and control of the entire air defense system in the United States, an unprecedented deligation of presidential authority in US history. The week-long practice drills being held that day were originally scheduled to begin on October 10th, 2001. They were resceduled to begin September 10th, 2001. One of the drills that day required a wide assortment of "false blips" - indiscernable to actual aircraft - to be inserted into the entire Federal Aviation Administration's network of radar screens. These drills also required the bulk of northeastern US air defensive interceptor jets to be dispatched to far flung areas, leaving the Washington and New York areas undefended - the most sensitive airspace on the planet including the nation's capital and the central command for all US military forces. When the attacks began, with President Bush in Florida, Richard Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief of the United States and was in complete control from the White House bunker. No interceptor jets were dispatched until the last of the four airliners had crashed, and no jets from Andrews Air Force base - only 10 miles from DC - were employed. Well known, is that no response could be mounted. American Airlines Flight 77 reversed it's course, traveled east for well over forty minutes, (after it was known to be a hijacking), covering over 300 miles and the large, lumbering passenger jet managed to evade separate, highly sophisticated military radar and executed a remarkable near circling of the Pentagon before impact. The Pentagon's multi-tiered missle system did not function. Donald Rumsfeld admitted on September 10, 2001 that nearly $2.3 trillion in Pentagon spending could not be accounted for. Flight 77 struck the area of the Pentagon that housed the accounting offices. The unexplained $2.3 trillion losses have not been mentioned by the main stream media, nor by any military or political official in a public venue since. Three separate video tapes from fixed security cameras, two civilian and one belonging to the State of Virginia, were seized by the FBI within minutes of the impact and explosion at the Pentagon and have been classified. Countless FOIA requests for their release have been ignored. Neither American Airlines Flight 11 nor United Airlines Flight 175 were scheduled to fly on September 11, 2001. None of the official pilots of the four hijacked airliners held a license to fly their assigned aircraft. A United Airlines Flight 93 was recorded into the FAA registry as landing in Cleveland and departing it's passengers - after a separate Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania. Between testifying before Senate Commitees and the 911 Commission, NORAD, Pentagon and FAA officials offered no less than three contradictory accounts over the course of a year to explain their failures. Several Commission members sought criminal charges for perjury but were stopped. No reason was offered. The National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice, testified under oath that "... no one could have foreseen hijacked airliners being used as missles to fly into buildings..." George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld also made this assertion repeatedly, in direct contradiction to a variety of recognized and well practiced scenerios by NORAD, the NRO and the CIA since 1998, as is a matter of record. Among these contingencies, the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were considered to be prime targets. Sibel Edmunds, a translator working for the FBI, testified for three and a half hours about numerous flaws in the procedural failures regarding actionable intelligence and significant 911 cover up operations at the FBI. She was served with a gag order and her entire testimony was ignored in the final report. The Commission officially requested over 11,000 documents from the White House. They actually received about 2,700 - many reacted and with censored text. FAA Chief Norman Mineta testified that he witnessed Vice President Cheney receiving rapid warnings from a 'young man' when an airliner heading for DC was 50 miles out, 30 miles out, 10 miles out when he asked the Vice President: "... does the order still stand?" The Vice President replied: "Yes, have you heard anything to the contrary?" Flight 77 struck the Pentagon within four minutes. The 'young man' and the order that he referred to - including Mr Mineta's entire testimony - is ignored in the final report. George Bush and Dick Cheney testify only together, no oath is sworn by either and no record of the conversation is allowed. An FAA manager deliberately destroyed, (and scattered), the logs of the false radar blips and other details that were a record of the war drills on the morning of 911, (commiting federal crime in doing so), yet he was never interviewed nor mentioned by the 911 Commission. He later received a promotion. A twenty-eight page document prepared by a former prosecutor about Saudi government connections and material support for two of the futiure hijackers residing in San Diego California was ignored by the Commission. The 911 Commission was directed by Philip Zelikow, who co-authored a book with Condolezza Rice and headed the transition team when George Bush assumed the presidency in January of 2001. Mr Zelikow had complete control over the final 911 report and it's contents and admitted that he "had numerous conversations with several members of the White House staff, inclucing the President's chief advisor Karl Rove" during the Commission's investigation. The 911 Commission's initial budget: $3 million, later increased reluctantly to $15 million due to pressure from the victim's families. The Ken Starr investigation of Bill and Hillary Clinton resulting in a charge of lying under oath regarding consensual sex that lead to adultry: $50 million. The investigation of the loss of the space shuttle Columbia: $50 million. The 911 Commission, in it's final report, determined that the source of the financing of the 911 terror attacks on the United States - speaking directly to the motive, "... is ultimately of little consequence..." The 911 Commission concludes in it's report that key FAA personnel were "hopeless bunglers deserving prosecution for criminal neglegence" and goes on to claim that they cannot find any particular person deserving of blame for the disaster. The commission praises the FAA for landing thousands of airliners across the United States when it was ordered to do so, a task unprecedented in aviation history - yet the agency failed miserably in contacting the military about an errant aircraft - a task that it preforms regularly. The Commission further claims that the military must rely solely on the FAA for radar services, blatantly ignoring the independent military radar that dwarfs the civilian radar network - both in scope and sophistication. In the nine months preceeding 911, the FAA had contacted the military - and NORAD had intercepted errant aircraft 67 times. Average time to intercept: 16 minutes. In the previous year, there had been over 120 such events, all with comparable intercept times. A brief recap: The collapse of the World Trade Center Towers was an unexpected and immense benefit to a group of insiders, and they were not Muslim fanatics. The members of The Project for a New American Century suddenly realized previously unimagined public support for their agenda, both in the US and on the world stage. The entire military complex of the United States would would be substantially expanded. Afghanistan and Iraq would be attcaked and invaded. The critical causes of the failure to respond to the 911 attacks by the US military were complied only on their third attempt to do so - and the members of the 911 Commission knew it. These repeated contradictions of substance by various officials of the Pentagon and NORAD prior to the final report's release were not mentioned by the Commission. Vice president Dick Cheney was at the epicenter of Command and Control, yet he was allowed to brief the Commission with George Bush at his side, neither were sworn under oath and no record was allowed. Notes taken by Commission members were collected by the Secret Service at the briefing's conclusion. Vice president Dick Cheney's claims and actions on 911 are sharply contradicted by FAA Chief Norman Mineta's critical, sworn testimony, which is ignored by the Commission. Sibel Edmund's detailed, scathing and verified indictment of deliberate, repeated FBI supression of crucial evidence is ignored by the Commission. The FBI supervisors that halted investigations into suspicious, hostile Arab men that became hijackers were ignored by the Commission. The previous associations of several of the hijackers with federal officials and agencies were ignored by the Commission. The FBI supervisors that suppressed internal agency cover ups of crucial agency failures and that slowed the translation of key intelligence documants were ignored by the Commission. $100,000 wired to the lead hijacker by Pakistan's Intelligence Chief weeks before the attacks - the same man meeting with high level US intelligence officials on the morning of 911 - was ignored by the Commission. The independent, military radar network that dwarfs that of the FAA, and the ramifications regarding the failures to respond to the attacks, is ignored by the Commission. An FAA supervisor destroyed critiical evidence at the heart of the failures, a federal crime. The funding for the operation resulting in the 911 attacks on the US was deemed unimportant by the Commission. Regarding the largest, most far reaching crime and mass murder in US history - do you hear the second-rate, drunken defense attorney laughing hysterically now? Let's assume that our federal government - nor any of it's myriad agencies at the forefront before, during and after the attacks had anything to hide. After all, why would any official in any agency, or any politician, wish to foster doubt? And what possible element of the evidence could be deemed classified - and for what reason? Four hijacked airliners were crashed, three into landmark buildings and one into an open field in Pennsylvania.. Why would any official at the FBI, the CIA, the FAA, NORAD, the Pentagon, or Conoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George Bush or the ten members of the 911 Investigative Commission wish to leave any American the impression that there was anything to hide? Yet they do. Repeatedly, deliberately and consistently - through their actions and their words. The grandest of lies about the largest mass murder in American history, wiith a profound contempt for due process, justice, decency and honor. Michael McCoy
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PRESS RELEASE

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OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OF 9/11 FLIGHT CONTRADICTED BY GOVERNMENT'S OWN DATA

Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) via the Freedom of Information Act to obtain their 2002 report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 77", consisting of a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file and Flight Path Animation, allegedly derived from Flight 77's Flight Data Recorder (FDR). The data provided by the NTSB contradict the 9/11 Commission Report in several significant ways:

The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support official events.

All Altitude data shows the aircraft at least 300 feet too high to have struck the light poles.

The rate of descent data is in direct conflict with the aircraft being able to impact the light poles and be captured in the Dept of Defense "5 Frames" video of an object traveling nearly parallel with the Pentagon lawn.

The record of data stops at least one second prior to official impact time.

If data trends are continued, the aircraft altitude would have been at least 100 feet too high to have hit the Pentagon.

In August, 2006, members of Pilots for 9/11 Truth received these documents from the NTSB and began a close analysis of the data they contain. After expert review and cross check, Pilots for 9/11 Truth has concluded that the information in these NTSB documents does not support, and in some instances factually contradicts, the official government position that American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, 2001 .According to the 9/11 Commission Report, which relied heavily upon the NTSB Flight Path Study, American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon at 9:37:46 AM on the morning of September 11, 2001 . However, the reported impact time according to the NTSB Flight Path Study is 09:37:45 . Also according to reports, American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon and by doing so, struck down 5 light poles on Highway 27 in its path to the west wall.

The information provided by the NTSB does not support the 9/11 Commission Report of American Airlines Flight 77 impact with the Pentagon.

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is committed to discovering the truth surrounding the events of September 11, 2001 . We have contacted both the NTSB and the FBI regarding these and other inconsistencies. To date, they have refused to comment on, correct, refute, retract or offer side-letters that might explain the discrepancies between what they claim are the data extracted from the FDR of AA Flight 77 and the official story alleging its crash into the Pentagon.As concerned citizens and professionals in the aviation industry, Pilots for 9/11 Truth asks, why have these discrepancies not been addressed by agencies within the United States Government? Why have they falsely represented their own data to the American people? Pilots for 9/11 Truth takes the position that an official government inquiry into these discrepancies is warranted and long overdue. We call upon our fellow citizens to write to their Congressional representatives to inform them of these discrepancies and call for an immediate investigation into this matter. For more information please visit pilotsfor911truth.org.

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a species that hires bodyguards to protect them loose their ability to protect themselves, loose their sense of community and your neighbor is there to cover your back and is doomed to extinction this just in about your bodyguards...business has been good since they created the OkC bombing, 911 and the 1st World Trade Center bombing 1st read April 19, 2008 Prosecuting No-Threat Stumblebums by Alan Bock Earlier this week a federal judge in Miami declared a second mistrial in the case of the so-called "Liberty City 7," a group of men accused of a terrorist plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago. Only six men were on trial this time because last December a jury acquitted one of the so-called plotters and was deadlocked on the charges against the others, included the purported leader, one Narseal Batiste, 33, who was supposedly the leader of a self-styled sect called the Moorish Science Temple. The prosecution had at its disposal hundreds of FBI audio and video recordings documenting supposed plots, including one in which the men took an oath of allegiance to al-Qaeda. Perhaps the jury was less than impressed, however, by the fact that the oath-taking ceremony was led by an FBI informant, known as Brother Mohammed, posing as an al-Qaeda operative. It quickly became apparent after the arrests of these bozos that they were essentially a bunch of big-talking stumblebums and losers without money, without weapons, without military training, without anything resembling operational knowledge of what it would take to bring down the Sears Tower, and had never even been to Chicago. It turned out that most of the plots were dreamed up at the instigation of FBI informants who sat around with the men in dope-smoking sessions and urged them to dream up ever more fanciful plots. The informants promised to come up with $50,000 to finance the plot and get access to explosives and other nasty stuff. Batiste testified that he was merely trying to con the informant out of $50,000. By the time of the arrest, the only things resembling evidence that this was anything approaching a serious plot were some cameras and military boots and a warehouse. All this had been supplied by the FBI informants. There were no weapons, ammunition or explosives. In his closing argument during the December trial, Albert Levin, an attorney for one of the accused, said that "This was all written, produced, directed, choreographed and stage-designed by the United States government." That appears to be the case, and it appears to be what two juries believed. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few home-grown terrorist cells in the United States consisting of fairly serious people who just might have a chance to pull off an attack that caused some serious destruction. There might even be some cells with connections to foreign groups. But almost all the cases brought forward by the U.S. government so far – each time with portentous self-congratulation about how the intrepid government agents had foiled yet another dangerous plot that could have wreaked untold death and destruction on innocent American citizens – has more closely resembled the Liberty City 7 case. In almost every instance the "plotters" have turned out to be a bunch of pathetic losers who made the mistake of talking nonsense and then getting infiltrated by government agents who goaded them into dreaming of ever-bigger death and destruction, then supplied (at taxpayer expense) the only elements of supposed plot that came even close to resembling something real. There's the case of the "Fort Dix Six," arrested last May and charged with a plot to attack the military base in New Jersey. The supposed plotters consisted of a taxi driver, a former pizza delivery boy and three roofers who had no money, no training and pretty much no clue. But the FBI infiltrated the group of slackers, urged them to dream up the plot while collecting incriminating evidence, and promised to give them access to rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47s, none of which ever quite materialized. In most cases there were serious elements of entrapment – undercover government agents urging the supposed plotters to commit crimes they might not have thought of by themselves and had no capacity to commit without government help even if they had thought of them. Entrapment and "sting" operations, setting up fictional crimes that carry real sentences, are all too common in U.S. law enforcement. As ethically dubious as such operations are, however, they have traditionally been carried out against people whom the police have a reasonably well-grounded suspicion are already involved in some kind of criminal or at least illicit activities, such as burglary, fencing or drug dealing. Thus we hear, from time to time, of a bunch of petty thieves being invited to a warehouse where they can get cash for their stolen goods and being arrested upon arrival. The difference with the domestic terrorist "plots" is that in almost every single instance there was no activity more criminal than foolish talk before the undercover informants got involved. What seems to be the case with these concoctions is that the government is manufacturing plots at least in part to develop fear in the general populace, most of whom hear little more about these stumblebums beyond the initial press conference announcing that yet another dread terrorist cell has been stymied, but there are others out there, so be very afraid. There's also the little matter of justifying the $4 billion a year or so the feds are spending on anti-terrorism boondoggles. As Rolling Stone explained in a valuable recent article, "The Fear Factory," which describes several more episodes of stumblebums prodded by the feds, there are now 102 Joint Terrorism Task Forces spread around the country, consisting of FBI agents, local police and agents from other federal agencies including Immigration, the IRS and the CIA. They've got to have some apparent successes to justify all this expenditure of time and money, so they increasingly resort to paid informants, often enough drug dealers or real criminals seeking reduced sentences. The Rolling Stone story also includes a valuable sidebar describing various efforts to ratchet up fear, whether by describing a supposed plot or raising the threat level to Orange, accompanied by the generally inconsequential or non-existent evidence supporting the fear-mongering, along with the potentially embarrassing political incident that just happened to coincide with the breathless warnings. All this suggests that while there is probably some real danger, the threat of domestic terrorism in the United States is drastically and purposely overblown by the government to justify ever-greater expenditures of money and liberty-threatening surveillance. And even if the bogus plots the government has chosen to publicize had been real, they would have caused strictly localized damage akin to what hurricanes or tornadoes cause, and much less than has been caused by recent floods or would be caused by the earthquakes the prognosticators have once again warned are imminent in California. We are encouraged to live in fear and trembling of the terrorist jihadist threat when the potential damage, even if the threats were real, is on the kind of scale that insurance companies and local governments are well equipped to handle. Add the fact that that Stratfor.com and other private international intelligence sources have sent out several e-mail essays in recent months suggesting that for all the likelihood that al-Qaeda Central has to some extent reconstituted itself along the Afghan-Pakistan border, one of the reasons it hasn't mounted a major attack on the U.S. since 9/11 is that it simply doesn't have the operational capacity to do so. Its successes of late have come from adopting local groups – al-Qaeda in Iraq – and to some extent offering advice and training. But there may be less to it than many people suspect. All this makes the recent advice from the invaluable Bruce Fein, who served in the Reagan Justice Department, timely and relevant. In the series of pieces on Slate.com offering tips to the next president, whoever he or she may be, he includes this: "End the ‘war on terror' as a legal paradigm. International terrorists are criminals, not warriors. The next president should see to it that terrorists will be captured, interrogated, prosecuted, and punished according to civilian law. The United States is not at war with international terrorism. The next president should ensure that we do not brandish the weapons of war in lieu of traditional law enforcement against international terrorists." Haven't we lived in fear of phantom threats long enough? 2nd read FBI plans agro-terrorism conference Conference to be held April 22-24 in Kansas City, Mo. Click For More Information Galaxy Control Systems: SIW's Access Control Section Sponsor The Latest from SIW The security week that was: 04/18/08 A weekly surveillance of news shaping your profession U.S. Transportation Department issues rule change for hazmat trains Rail companies compelled to consider alternate routes, perform risk assessments L.A. port to get biometrics and access control upgrade The biggest HIPAA violation yet? The Legal Side: Are a subscriber's own contracts too risky? ADT buys FirstService Security Terror Response Technology Report via NewsEdge Corporation The FBI and Heart of America Joint Terrorism Task Force will host the 2008 International Symposium on AgroTerrorism on April 22-24 in Kansas City, Mo. The Department of Homeland Security will participate and plans to engage in outreach activities with the health, medical and veterinary professions and private industry. For more information see: http://www.fbi-isa.org/.
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April 20, 2008 at 10:29:14

9/11: UNITED 93 DATA PROVIDED BY US GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SUPPORT OBSERVED EVENTS

by rob balsamo

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UNITED 93 DATA PROVIDED BY US GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SUPPORT OBSERVED EVENTS

Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) via the Freedom of Information Act to obtain United Flight 93 Flight Data Recorder information, consisting of a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file and Flight Path Animation, allegedly derived from Flight 93 Flight Data Recorder (FDR). The data provided by the NTSB contradict observed events in several significant ways:

The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support observations.

All Altitude data on the northern approach contradicts witnesses published by the New York Times.

Witness observations of approach path contradict northern approach as described by Popular Mechanics and the US Govt. Several witnesses observed the aircraft approaching from southeast over Indian Lake and from the south prior to witnessing explosion. Parts found in New Baltimore, 8 miles southeast of crater is a direct contradiction to the northern approach claimed by the US Govt.

Environmental Protection Agency reports no soil contamination of jet fuel after testing 5,000-6,000 yards of earth including 3 ground wells. Smoke plume photographed by a witness does not suggest a jet fuel rich explosion.

Impact angle according to Flight Data Recorder does not support an almost vertical impact as the govt story and crater suggests.

In May, 2007, members of Pilots for 9/11 Truth received these documents from the NTSB and began a close analysis of the data they contain. After expert review and cross check, Pilots for 9/11 Truth has concluded that the information in these NTSB documents does not support, and in some instances factually contradicts, the official government position that United Airlines Flight 93 created the impact crater as reported, in Somerset County, PA on the morning of September 11, 2001. According to the US Govt, United Airlines Flight 93 approached Somerset County from the North-Northwest at a high altitude on the morning of September 11, 2001. However, many witnesses contradict altitude as well as approach path. Also according to reports, and as the impact crater suggests, United Airlines Flight 93 impacted terrain at an almost vertical 90 degree angle, while the Flight Data Recorder shows a 35 degree angle with up-sloping terrain, further reducing impact angle.

The information provided by the US Government does not support reports of United Airlines Flight 93 approach, impact angles, and lack of jet fuel at Somerset Country, PA.

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is committed to discovering the truth surrounding the events of September 11, 2001 . We have contacted both the NTSB and the FBI regarding these and other inconsistencies. To date, they have refused to comment on, correct, refute, retract or offer side-letters that might explain the discrepancies between what they claim are the data extracted from the FDR of United Flight 93 and the events observed. As concerned citizens and professionals in the aviation industry, Pilots for 9/11 Truth asks, why have these discrepancies not been addressed by agencies within the United States Government? Pilots for 9/11 Truth takes the position that an official government inquiry into these discrepancies is warranted and long overdue. We call upon our fellow citizens to write to their Congressional representatives to inform them of these discrepancies and call for an immediate investigation into this matter. For more information and in depth analysis please visit pilotsfor911truth.org.

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I believe FBI agents are effecting the stories I post about crimes committed by FBI agents at the Newspaper Index Forum. I frequently get error messages see below for current error message and how the story appeared on the website. Joseph Baltar Could not insert new word matches DEBUG MODE SQL Error : 1271 Illegal mix of collations for operation ' IN ' INSERT INTO phpbb_search_wordmatch (post_id, word_id, title_match) SELECT 77122, word_id, 0 FROM phpbb_search_wordlist WHERE word_text IN ('latest', 'information', 'crimes', 'committed', 'taxpayer', 'funded', 'fbi', 'agents', 'campusactivism', 'org', 'click', 'upper', 'left', 'forum', 'right', 'scroll', 'watch', 'calls', 'judicial', 'oversight', 'demands', 'library', 'joan', 'oleck', 'school', 'journal', '6', '2008', 'center', 'democracy', 'technology', 'cdt', 'may', 'longer', 'charge', 'national', 'security', 'letters—the', 'federal', 'subpoenas', 'provided', '2001', 'patriot', 'act', 'quot', 'era', 'cell', 'phones', 'blackberries', 'ubiquitous', 'internet', 'access', 'reason', 'system', 'review', 'consistent', 'searching', 'congressional', 'cannot', 'designed', 'serve', 'governments', 'legitimate', 'needs', 'cdts', 'greg', 'nojeim', 'told', 'senate', 'judiciary', 'comittee', 'april', 'nonprofit', 'publicinterest', 'organization', 'promotes', 'civil', 'liberties', 'digital', 'communications', 'media', 'one', 'priorities', 'make', 'sure', 'there’s', 'balance', 'individual', 'freedoms', 'wake', '9', 'librarians', 'course', 'strangers', 'letters', 'shortly', 'sep', 'sent', 'seeking', 'patrons’', 'electronic', 'transactions', 'although', 'subject', 'judges', 'such', 'reviews', 'occur', 'testified', 'that’s', 'reasons', 'recommended', 'passage', 'bill', '2088', 'reform', 'march', 'american', 'association', 'five', 'organizations', 'concerned', 'free', 'speech', 'filed', 'appeal', 'arguing', 'required', 'secuity', 'normally', 'unnecessary', 'fight', 'terrorism', 'groups', 'objected', 'fact', 'recipents', 'risked', 'imprisonment', 'publicily', 'revealed', 'received') Line : 251 File : functions_search.php Here is how article appeared on website to see the latest information on crimes committed by taxpayer funded FBI agents see campusactivism.org click on home in upper left click on forum in upper right scroll down to FBI WATCH Calls for Judicial Oversight of FBI Demands on Library Information By Joan Oleck -- School Library Journal, 5/6/2008 If the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT) has its way, the FBI may no longer be in charge of national security letters?the federal subpoenas provided under the 2001 Patriot Act. "In an era of cell phones, BlackBerries, and ubiquitous Internet access, there is no reason why a system of judicial review and consistent, searching Congressional oversight cannot be designed to serve the government's legitimate needs," CDT's Greg Nojeim told a Senate Judiciary Committee on April 23. CDT is a nonprofit, public-interest organization that promotes civil liberties for the new digital communications media. One of its priorities is to make sure there?s a balance between national security and individual freedoms in the wake of 9/11. Librarians, of course, are no strangers to national security letters. Shortly after September 11, 2001 the federal subpoenas were sent to librarians, seeking information about patrons? electronic transactions. Although national security letters are now subject to a judge's review, such reviews often do not occur, Nojeim testified. That?s one of the reasons CDT has recommended passage of Senate bill 2088, which would reform national security letters. In March, the American Library Association and five other organizations concerned with free speech filed an appeal arguing that the information required by the national secuity letters is normally unnecessary to fight terrorism. The groups also objected to the fact that recipents of the letters risked imprisonment if they publicily revealed they had received the federal subpoenas.
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Lockerbie: The Doctor's Strange Story
'I knew that the identification of McKee was absolutely correct'

Ludwig De Braeckeleer (ludwig)	Email Article Print Article

	Published 2008-05-07 05:43 (KST)

"Weird and inexplicable happenings haunted the Lockerbie disaster on the very night the plane went down -- December 21, 1988."
--Investigation into Lockerbie, 1995, Paul Foot and John Ashton

Back in 1988, Dr. David Fieldhouse was a police surgeon from Bradford, Yorkshire. On Dec. 21, Fieldhouse heard about the crash of Pan Am 103 on "News at Ten." He immediately phoned the Lockerbie police station to volunteer his help and experience, which the Lockerbie Police eagerly accepted.

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Minutes later, Fieldhouse was driving on the highway to Scotland and arrived to Lockerbie shortly before midnight. There, he reported to the police station. After having received his instructions, he was sent out with a police officer to find bodies and certify them dead.

"My work began after briefings and involved several square miles of the crash scene over a period of about 16 hours -- ending, as I recall, at about 1600 hours on 22nd December 1988.

"During those hours of the search for and confirmation of death in the case of many bodies, I was accompanied by one or more police officers at all times. We occasionally met others both during the night and the ensuing day," Fieldhouse told me.

Fieldhouse was working to the east and southeast of Lockerbie between Middlebie and Tundergarth, which happens to be the earliest place where the bodies fell from the plane.

When he reported to the police station that evening, he had certified 58 bodies dead and labeled them accordingly from DCF 1 to DCF 58.

"I saw 58 bodies during that period of the search. Fifty-five of them were to the Northwest of a road that runs from Middlebie to Bankshill and only three were to the Southeast of that road.

"I confirmed death in the case of many bodies including one that I afterwards learned was that of McKee [an American intelligence operative returning from Lebanon]. At the time I saw the bodies I made brief notes which included, in some cases, a note of any clothing remaining on them and in every case, the sex and any major injuries visible, such as decapitation or loss of a limb," he said.

Identification

For several weeks after the explosion, Fieldhouse traveled on one day per week to Lockerbie to work on the computers installed at the temporary headquarters of the team at the Academy, a School in Lockerbie, in order to help the police identify the bodies and where they had been found. On each of those occasions, Fieldhouse was officially signed, or logged, in on arrival and logged out on departure.

"I always had a police officer, not always the same one, to assist me in the work. The aim was to work out the identities of the bodies I had certified as dead at the scene of the crash during the night of 21st and the daylight hours of 22nd December 1988 by looking through all the information available at the time such as statements, post mortem notes, other reports," Fieldhouse explained to me.

Fieldhouse was told that information was made available on a "need to know" basis only. It is thus likely that so some was probably withheld from him. He was told that the computers were linked to Washington.

"My identification was limited to correlating the bodies I had certified as being dead with those logged by the police. My sole aim in doing so was to enable me to write an accurate report of which persons I had pronounced deceased and at roughly what times I had done so," he said.

Reputation Tarnished

Nearly two years later, during the Fatal Accident Inquiry (FAI) into the Lockerbie disaster, Fieldhouse was unjustifiably tarnished by a police officer in official sworn evidence.

Led by Lord Fraser of Carmyllie, the Scottish Lord Advocate, Sgt. David Johnston of the Strathclyde police started his evidence about Fieldhouse as follows.

"On the evening of the disaster, and in the early hours of the following day, Fieldhouse went out and examined a number of victims on his own, pronouncing life extinct, and attached on them his own form of identification. This was not known to us until some considerable time later," Johnston said.

The Lord Advocate continued with a series of similar questions that were all intended to destroy the credibility of Fieldhouse. After asking about the discovery of the body of American businessman Tom Ammerman, Fraser went as far as suggesting that Fieldhouse was not a medical doctor.

"Would this be another example of or Mr. Fieldhouse carrying out a search on his own?" the Lord Advocate asked.

"It would, my Lord," Johnston said.

"And marking the body of a person who is dead without notifying the police?"

"That is correct."

False Accusations

In fact, Fieldhouse was accompanied throughout by police officers, three of whom he has named. Ammerman's body had been found by Fieldhouse and an accompanying police officer. Both men agreed on the report.

On Jan. 22, 1991, Fieldhouse appeared at the inquiry. He had no difficulty to swiftly dispose of all the false allegations that had been tossed against him.

"I would record my thanks to Fieldhouse and my apologies for the undeserved criticism of his activities," concluded Sheriff Mowat, who was in charge of the inquiry.

'I Labeled One Body DCF 49'

"I was accompanied by three Police Officers at about 1500 hours GMT on 22nd December 1988," stated Fieldhouse. "One of them made notes for me as I dictated what I wished to be recorded. There were several bodies in a few fields near a monument south of Tundergarth church, near to Lockerbie town.

"I labeled one body DCF 49 and recorded: Heavy adult male, multi-colored T-shirt, blue jeans, field going northwest from monument.

"I knew that the identification of McKee was absolutely correct because of the clothing which correlated closely with the other reports and statements, and the computers that were linked up to Washington," he concluded.

In a letter to me, former FBI agent R. Marquise, who led the Lockerbie investigation, wrote: "I would like to know about the statement attributed to Fieldhouse where he spoke of the clothing worn by McKee based on reports and statements and the computers that were linked up to Washington. Please we are talking about FBI computers I assume and we did not have any then. Before we ever had any infrastructure in place, I would imagine that McKee was identified."

Field house explained: "The quote is very slightly incorrect and should have read: … reports and statements on the computers that were linked to Washington. I noted this at the time of reading the FAI report, but did not make any comment as I did not think that it was relevant, though the sense is slightly altered by the correct version of what (I think) I said."

All Codes Erased

In the early weeks of 1989, Fieldhouse studied the records held on the computers in the Academy (Investigation Headquarters) at Lockerbie.

He noted that none of the codes (DCF 1 to 58) he had given to bodies was recorded on the computers. He was amazed that all except two of his labels had all been thrown away and replaced with others. "This was astounding to me," Fieldhouse said.

Fieldhouse claims that the computer record, which seemed to match his notes relating to DCF 49, gave the mortuary body number as 225 and although he did not recall and did not note the description of the clothing on the computer file, it would certainly have correlated with his findings sufficiently for him to be confident that he had correctly "married them up."

Body Coded DCF 12

Fieldhouse told me a very disturbing story. He is adamant that nobody on the computer files matched the location of the one that he recorded as "DCF 12." He is almost certain of this because the body was found at a very particular location. DCF 12 was one of the three bodies southeast of the road that runs from Middlebie to Bankshill.

"I saw 58 bodies during that period of the search," Fieldhouse told me. "Fifty-five of them were to the north of a road and only three were to the south of that road. DCF 12 was one of the three bodies south of the road. I was as confident as I could have been that I had not made any errors, but I do accept it is possible that I misunderstood the location of the body when trying to pinpoint its position on a map and trying to provide a map reference number.

"However, if the police had recorded my codes (DCF 1 to DCF 58) on the computer records which they were compiling, there would have been no difficulty in marrying up the bodies which I had seen and the ones which they had recovered.

"When the bodies were being examined by the pathologist, all notable characteristics such as sex, fractures, clothing were noted, but apparently not my labels. It seems inconceivable that 58 consecutive numbered codes on 58 bodies could be disregarded. Clearly it would have been obvious to the most ignorant observer that they served a purpose and that, in any event, it would have been better to record the details in case they had a usefulness not then apparent to the person recording the details in the mortuary.

"You could not, for example get any results for a 'search and find' instruction given to the computer for 'DCF 12,' whereas it was easy enough to get results in the search for a 'black … face … ewe.' It does make one wonder why they ignored, for official purposes at least, all my reference codes and labels and this gives rise to suspicions that there was an ulterior motive on their part."

The Aftermath

Nearly two years later, in December 1993, Fieldhouse gave an interview for a film about Lockerbie, the "Maltese Double Cross," in which he narrates some of the events discussed in this article.

A few days after the interview, Fieldhouse was summoned to a meeting with two senior West Yorkshire police officers at Wakefield. Without explanation, he was sacked as police surgeon with a three-month notice.

"In my wildest dreams, I did not realize that I was to set a ball rolling which resulted in the ensuing lies by the police to the Fatal Accident Inquiry about what I had done or about the apparent missing body -- DCF 12," Fieldhouse wrote to me.

A Final Puzzle

The day before the Lockerbie bombing McKee called his mother. "Meet me at the Pittsburgh airport tomorrow night," McKee told his mother.

"This was the first time Chuck ever telephoned me from Beirut," McKee's mother said. "I was flabbergasted. It's a surprise. Always before he would wait until he was back in Virginia to call and say he was coming home."

McKee's mother says she is sure her son's sudden decision to fly home was not known to his superiors in Virginia.

If indeed McKee was returning unannounced, one is left wondering how the computers in Washington had information concerning the clothes he was wearing on Dec. 21.

Ludwig De Braeckeleer has a PhD in nuclear sciences. He teaches physics and international humanitarian law. He blogs on "The GaiaPost."

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FBI agent's credibility queried at Omagh trial Wednesday, 14 May 2008 19:38 Defence lawyers for convicted republican Michael McKevitt have claimed that gardaí investigating the Omagh bombing did not adequately investigate the credibility of FBI agent David Rupert. McKevitt is one of five men being sued by relatives of the victims of the Omagh bombing in 1998. Mr Michael O'Higgins SC for McKevitt was questioning Superintendent Diarmuid O'Sullivan in relation to five statements Mr Rupert gave to gardaí during the investigation into the bombing in 2001. Advertisement Mr O'Higgins said Rupert's statement was 'a tissue of lies' and described him as a 'fraudster, drug smuggler, people smuggler and a confidence trickster'. Mr Rupert's evidence was key to the 2003 conviction of McKevitt, who was jailed for directing terrorism. McKevitt has always denied knowing Mr Rupert. The prosecution in this civil action are seeking to establish that McKevitt was the Real IRA leader who carried out the 1998 Omagh bombing. Superintendent O'Sullivan said it was not up to the gardaí to investigate matters relating to alleged fraud committed by Mr Rupert in the US. But he said he believed 90% of Mr Rupert's evidence in relation to the activities of dissident republicans had been substantiated. He said three judges in the Special Criminal Court and in the Court of Criminal Appeal had tested the credibility of Mr Rupert's evidence. Earlier, the court heard the address of a vocational school in Donegal was given to Mr Rupert as a location to ship weapons and ammunition to. Supt O'Sullivan said Mr Rupert had given gardaí a business card, which he said he was given from a well known republican Joe O'Neill . It had 'Kathleen Askin, Vocational School, College Street, Ballyshannon' handwritten on the top. Supt O'Sullivan said that this was the address that David Rupert was given by Joe O'Neill to ship military supplies from the US for the continuity IRA. The hearing, which is taking evidence in Dublin, was told that Mr Rupert passed the evidence on to gardaí who were probing terrorist activity on both sides of the border.
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Thursday, May 15, 2008 Garda evidence continues in Omagh bomb civil action Thursday, May 15, 2008 The Omagh bomb civil action in Dublin has heard that a senior garda and a member of the British Secret Service talked about getting rid of a document which cast doubt over FBI agent David Rupert's credibility as the chief witness in the Michael McKevitt trial. The court has heard that the conversation arose out of an allegation, made by David Rupert in an email, that the chief superintendent at the time effectively had no regard for loss of life in the North. This is day four of the action in Dublin in which Gardai who investigated the 1998 atrocity are giving evidence. Michael O'Higgins, for Michael McKevitt, who is serving 20 years for directing terrorism, continues to cross-examine a detective superintendent this afternoon. Mr O'Higgins has referred to a document written up by an MI5 operative detailing a conversation between him and Chief Superintendent Dermot Jennings in February 2001. The court heard they discussed an allegation made by David Rupert in an email stating that Jennings was only interested in illegal activity in the Republic, which Mr O'Higgins told the court effectively suggested that Jennings, as a senior garda, had no regard for loss of life in the North. The court has heard that Jennings urged that the report which contained that allegation be removed after the MI5 operative suggested that, if the defence got hold of it, it could make Rupert an untrustworthy source. The detective superintendent in the stand said the emails were disclosed to the defence in the McKevitt trial and Jennings was available to be cross-examined, but the defence, for whatever reason, didn't act on this. . .
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TWO READS ABOUT FBI AGENTS WHO MAKE THINGS GO BOOM 1st Cops train; kids feel it KP school buildings shake as FBI holds explosives demo at psychiatric center By Joe Darrow write the author May 16, 2008 \| 11:25 AM If you were near the former Kings Park Psychiatric Center last Wednesday afternoon and happened to hear explosions or see smoke, you were not mistaken, but neither were you in danger, according to the FBI. In fact, you as well as a number of children and teachers in nearby schools were distant witnesses of counter-terrorism training for local law enforcement officials. Last week the New York FBI Counterterrorism Division and special agent bomb technicians, along with the Suffolk County bomb squad, offered more than 60 federal, state and local law enforcement personnel a five-day course in indoor post-terrorism incident crime scene investigation. Police recipients included investigators, bomb technicians, crime scene response units and crime lab personnel. The Wednesday session included an outdoor demonstration at the former mental hospital of explosive devices — and the evidence their detonation leaves behind — used in recent terrorist attacks. Instructors set off about 30 different explosives in a two-hour span, an FBI spokesman said. Several blasts were heard and felt by onlookers as well as children and staff in nearby Kings Park School District buildings. Students at William T. Rogers Middle School, about a quarter-mile away from the blast site, heard the explosions and saw smoke rising over the trees, according to a parent. Kings Park Superintendent of Schools Martin Brooks said school employees at San Remo "said they could feel the building's walls shake." "I understand the need to hold the drills, but they were loud," Brooks said. "If you're doing a lesson on math and a loud explosion occurs ... the attention of the kids gets diverted to the noise." The district had been notified ahead of time, the superintendent said, and he sent a letter home to parents the day before, May 6, warning them of the potential disruption to students. He said the district received a few complaints from parents, but beyond the momentary disturbance, students took the noises in stride. "I think that the staff was prepared and therefore the kids were fine," Brooks said. "It went off uneventfully from our point of view." Although, he added, "In the best of all worlds it would have been done in some place where we couldn't have heard all the noise." Of greater concern than the noise, Brooks said, was the fact that the demonstrations were being held from 12:30 to 2:30 pm, the latter about the time teens are dismissed at nearby Kings Park High School, creating the possibility of students wandering onto the blast site. "The Suffolk County Police Department has assured me that officers will be stationed throughout the area of the drill to insure that curious students and residents don't actually wander onto the area of the site," Brooks wrote in his advisory letter. "In addition we have notified our building principals and asked them to take the necessary precautions to keep students away from the site." New York FBI office spokesman Special Agent James Margolin said law enforcement officers had anticipated this concern, placing officers to intercept anyone approaching the training site. As far as he had heard, police had encountered no wanderers. "Even if someone did manage to wander onto the scene, they would have been noticed" and made to stay behind a perimeter, he said. The bomb demonstration was "perfectly safe," Margolin stressed, saying it produced some flashes and bangs, but no safety risk. "The worst effect to the neighboring population was some loud noises occasionally," he added. According to Margolin, the grounds of the former Kings Park mental hospital, now property of the state Office of Parks with a portion embodying the Nissequogue River State Park, was selected for the workshop due to its combination of large open spaces and abandoned buildings, necessary for staging both inside and outside terrorist attack scenarios. "This isn't something we do all the time," Margolin said. "On balance, ... disturbance to the community is outweighed by the training benefit that law enforcement gains." Steve Weber of San Remo, who has a son, Nick, 12, at the middle school and a daughter, Angel, 9, at RJO Intermediate School, only slightly further down Old Dock Road heading away from the blast site, said the feeling among parents he's spoken with is that the explosions were "way too close to the schools." "Not only is this a disruption to class, but what if something goes wrong? There is no margin for error," Weber wrote in an email. "Law enforcement agencies train in the Nissequogue River State Park on a regular basis, using the old buildings for this training," Weber wrote. "I 100-percent support this, even if the park has to be closed while they are training — it's just a small accommodation which we can make to support those who risk their lives to protect us. I just don't think that the [park] is the place for the detonation of explosives and other live fire exercises." 2nd readFriday, May 16, 2008 — Last update: 1:16 p.m. MDT Salt Lake City Clear 72˚ Forecast \| Traffic Powered bySign in Register Subscribe E-edition %3Cbody%3E%3Cdiv%20id%3D%22adDiv%22%3E%3Cscript%20language%3D%22javascript%22%20src%3D%22http%3A//media.fastclick.net/w/get.media%3Fsid%3D14631%26m%3D1%26tp%3D5%26d%3Dj%26t%3Dn%22%3E%3C/script%3E%3Cimg%20src%3D%22http%3A//63.225.61.6/IMPCNT/ccid%3D18141/area%3Ddn.local.article.position0/adsize%3Dbanner1/aamsz%3D728x90/keyword%3D/site%3D/acc_random%3D60958233/pageid%3D60958233%22%20width%3D1%20height%3D1%20border%3D0%3E%3C/div%3E Visit MormonTimes Home Utah Community World & nation Movies Sports LDS Newsline Business Arts & Entertainment Photos Opinion Obituaries Classifieds Jobs Cars Real Estate Misc Shop Archives Nichols says bombing was FBI op Detailed confession filed in S.L. about Oklahoma City plot By Geoffrey Fattah Deseret Morning News Published: Thursday, Feb. 22, 2007 1:02 p.m. MST 0 comments E-MAIL \| PRINT \| FONT + - Page: 1 2 Next > The only surviving convicted criminal in the April 19, 1995, bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City is saying his co-conspirator, Timothy McVeigh, told him he was taking orders from a top FBI official in orchestrating the bombing. A declaration from Terry Lynn Nichols, filed in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City, has proven to be one of the most detailed confessions by Nichols to date about his involvement in the bombing as well as the involvement of others. However, one congressman who has investigated the bombings remains skeptical of Nichols' claims. The declaration was filed as part of Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue's pending wrongful death suit against the government for the death of his brother in a federal corrections facility in Oklahoma City. Trentadue claims his brother was killed during an interrogation by FBI agents when agents mistook his brother for a suspect in the Oklahoma City bombing investigation. The most shocking allegation in the 19-page signed declaration is Nichols' assertion that the whole bombing plot was an FBI operation and that McVeigh let slip during a bout of anger that he was taking instruction from former FBI official Larry Potts. Story continues below Potts was no stranger to anti-government confrontations, having been the lead FBI agent at Ruby Ridge in 1992, which led to the shooting death of Vicki Weaver, the wife of separatist Randy Weaver. Potts also was reportedly involved in the 51-day siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas in 1993, which resulted in a fire that killed 81 Branch Davidian followers. Potts retired from the FBI under intense pressure and criticism for the cover-up of an order to allow agents to shoot anyone seen leaving the Weaver cabin at Ruby Ridge. When contacted, the FBI's main office in Washington, D.C., said it could not provide immediate comment on Nichols' claims Tuesday. Nichols claims that, in December 1992, McVeigh told him that "while he was serving in the U.S. Army, he had been recruited to carry out undercover missions." In the next few years, the two men hatched the bombing plot. In October 1994, "McVeigh and I stole explosives from a quarry in Marion, Kansas consisting of 8 1/2 cases or boxes containing 229 (2-inch by 16-inch) sticks of the gel type explosive known as Tovex," Nichols wrote, adding that only a small amount was used in the actual bombing. It was while traveling the gun-show circuit that Nichols claims the two obtained bombmaking knowledge and the materials used in the bombing. One example is that McVeigh allegedly attended a gun show in Knob Creek, Ky., in 1993. "At this gun show, McVeigh had the opportunity to make contact with about 20 people who were bomb experts. McVeigh told me that he himself had no knowledge about how to construct a bomb, but that he always wanted to gain more knowledge about how to construct bombs," Nichols stated. Nichols says he knew McVeigh was building the bomb, and in November 1994 he left for the Philippines to get away from the area to avoid being implicated. "I did not want to be present when and if McVeigh did explode a bomb. Consequently, I left for the Philippines to be out of the country," he wrote. That statement contradicts findings of Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, R-California, whose study on the bombing was made public last December. It indicated Nichols had traveled to the Philippines to receive bombing training by a possible foreign terrorist. Having not heard of any bombing, Nichols said he returned to the U.S. in January 1995. It was later that, in a fit of rage, McVeigh mentioned Potts' name, Nichols wrote. "McVeigh said he believed Potts was manipulating him and forcing him to 'go off script,' which I understood meant to change the target of the bombing," Nichols stated. It wasn't until April 18, 1995, that Nichols said he helped McVeigh construct a bomb at Geary Lake. The bomb was comprised of "metal and white plastic" barrels which were filled with ammonium nitrate fertilizer and mixed with nitromethane. In all he estimates between 90 to 92 fifty-pound bags of fertilizer went into the barrels and explosive sticks were placed in the holes of each barrel. Story continues below Nichols said he had no further role in renting the Ryder truck and claims he did not know the target, only that McVeigh "wanted to make a statement" by "targeting some structure." After hearing about the bombing of the federal building, which killed 168 adults and children, Nichols said he panicked when his name came up on the radio and he wanted to turn himself in — but not before hiding evidence, including explosives used in the bombing. The claims made in the declaration have added yet more twists to the mystery surrounding the bombings. Some familiar with the bombing's history say Nichols' claims seem to indicate the FBI put McVeigh up to the plot as a draw for radicals, but that the situation got out of control and McVeigh became a runaway informant. After reviewing the declaration, Rohrabacher told the Deseret Morning News that Nichols' claims should be investigated but treated with extreme skepticism. "I need to caution people to remember that Terry Nichols is a mass murderer," Rohrabacher said. "But if Terry Nichols is beginning to reveal some of the information that's been kept from the public, I'd be very happy about that." Rohrabacher also expressed disappointment with the FBI and the Department of Justice for not adequately following up on indications there were others who helped Nichols and McVeigh. The congressman said he no longer is chairman of the subcommittee that conducted the investigation and is "dismayed" that no one else in Congress seems interested in the matter. Nichols said he has much more information, which he offered to former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004, but is willing to divulge only under sworn video deposition. Trentadue said he plans to seek that deposition of Nichols, but "I expect one hell of a fight with the Department of Justice." Nichols is serving life in prison without parole after being convicted by a jury for his role in the bombing. McVeigh also was convicted and on June 11, 2001 was executed in Terre Haute, Ind.
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This month, for our 9/11 film series, we will be showing 9/11: Blueprint for Truth - The Architecture of Destruction. This filmed lecture by architect Richard Gage surveys the full range of evidence suggesting that World Trade Centers 1, 2 and 7 were each destroyed from within by explosives. As many of you know, Richard Gage is the force behind the organization Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org), which has been gathering momentum among building professionals calling for a new 9/11 investigation. I hope you can join us for this important film. As usual we will leave time for a discussion afterwards. Date, time and place: Friday, May 23rd, 7:00 pm Meg Perry Center 644 Congress St., Portland Regards, Stephen Shaw for maine911truth.org
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ome > News > Local Slain inmate's family likely to face fight for answers Lawyer recalls own inquiry into brother's death Tom LoBianco (Contact) Thursday, July 3, 2008 Comment Print Listen Font Size Share Ask a Question You Report Jesse Trentadue wishes the family of Ronnie L. White luck - and fortitude - as they seek to find who killed their son while he was imprisoned in a Prince George's County jail. Mr. Trentadue spent the past 13 years trying to find out why his brother died in a federal prison in Oklahoma and approached everyone from former federal agents to convicted Oklahoma City bomber conspirator Terry Lynn Nichols. Mr. White was charged with fatally running over a Prince George's police officer. He was held in a cell separate from other prisoners for his safety. State and federal investigations are pending in his strangling death, and county officials ordered jail guards to cooperate with the probe Wednesday after reports surfaced that some had refused to speak with investigators. But Mr. Trentadue advised family members waiting for answers to steel themselves. "It's just a horrible fight, a horrible fight," he said Wednesday. His younger brother, Kenneth, died in an Oklahoma City federal prison in August 1995 after being arrested on a parole violation. Officials said Mr. Trentadue's brother committed suicide by hanging himself in his prison cell with a braided bed sheet. But when the Trentadue family asked authorities to release their brother's body to them, they found a corpse marred with bruises and lacerations that a medical examiner later determined were consistent with strangulation. Mr. Trentadue said he thinks that federal authorities accidentally tagged his brother as "John Doe No. 2" - America's most-wanted criminal at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing. Since then, the Trentadue family has fought with federal authorities for more information about Kenneth's death, placing an enlarged photo of Kenneth's autopsy on a billboard in Florida and seeking a deposition from Terry Nichols, who is serving a life sentence for helping Timothy McVeigh in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. The NAACP on Wednesday called for the suspension of nine corrections officers who had been charged with watching Mr. White at the Prince George's Corrections Center. County safety director Vernon Herron told corrections officers that they would have to cooperate with the probe or face disciplinary action after four of the officers reportedly declined to cooperate with state and federal investigators. Mr. Trentadue, a Salt Lake City trial lawyer, said he has closely followed news of Mr. White's death this week and was struck when he learned that two small bones had been broken in his neck, indicating strangulation. "That fractured hyoid bone tells all, my brother had all of the classic signs of strangulation," he said. Rod Lamkey Jr./The Washington Times Inmate Ronnie L. White was strangled at the Prince George's County Correctional Center. Mr. Trentadue urged the White family to stay strong. "It will be a tremendous fight, and it will take a lot of resources not only financially, but physically, mentally and emotionally," he said.
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The JFK Assassination and 9/11: the Designated Suspects in Both Cases by Peter Dale Scott

Global Research, July 5, 2008

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Global Research recently published my essay entitled 9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics In this article, I argue that 9/11 should be analyzed as a deep event (an event not fully aired or understood because of its intelligence connections) and above all as one of a series of deep events which from time to time have frustrated peace initiatives or become pretexts for war. In support of this overall thesis I pointed to features of 9/11 which recalled similar deep events: the still not fully understood outbreak of the Korean War in 1950, the JFK assassination, and the so-called Second Tonkin Gulf Incident of 1964 (an alleged attack on U.S. destroyers which we now know never happened). The similarities between these deep events which have disturbed American history since World War Two suggest that they are not just a sequence of unrelated external accidents, but at least in part the product of some on-going deep indigenous force not yet adequately understood. In this series of deep events, perhaps the most striking similarities are between the JFK assassination (henceforward referred to as "JFK") and 9/11. Earlier talks and articles I have delivered on this topic are developed even further in my forthcoming much expanded reissue of my early book, The War Conspiracy. As The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War, it is due to be published by the Mary Ferrell Foundation Press in August 2008. The following essay is the concluding section of the new book, and has never hitherto been published.] I wish to summarize again the first striking similarity between 11/22/63 and of 9/11/01: the dubious detective work on those two days. Less than fifteen minutes after the President’s assassination, the height and weight of Kennedy’s alleged killer was posted.1 Before the last of the hijacked planes crashed on 9/11, the FBI told Richard Clarke that they had a list of alleged hijackers.2 In the case of Oswald, within fifteen minutes of the assassination and long before Oswald was picked up in the Texas Theater, Inspector Sawyer of the Dallas police put out on the police radio network, and possibly other networks, a description of the killer – "About 30, 5’10", 165 pounds."3 As noted, this height and weight exactly matched the measurements attributed to Lee Harvey Oswald in Oswald’s FBI file, and also in CIA documents about him.4 The announced height and weight were however different from Oswald’s actual measurements, as recorded by the Dallas police after his arrest: 5’9 1/2", 131 pounds.5 More importantly, there is no credible source for the posted measurements from any witness in Dallas. (The witness said to have spotted him, Howard Brennan, failed to identify Oswald in a line-up.)6 This leaves the possibility that the measurements were taken from existing files on Oswald, rather than from any observations in Dallas on November 22. If so, someone with access to those files may have already designated Oswald as the culprit, before there was any evidence to connect him to the crime. A similar situation pertains to the alleged hijackers on 9/11. For example, shortly afterwards men in Saudi Arabia complained that "the hijackers' `personal details’" released by the FBI -- "including name, place, date of birth and occupation -- matched their own."7 One of them, Saeed al-Ghamdi, claimed further that an alleged photograph shown on CNN (of an alleged Flight 93 hijacker with the same name) was in fact a photograph of himself. He speculated "that CNN had probably got the picture from the Flight Safety flying school he attended in Florida."8 If the above information is accurate, then the details posted by the FBI and CNN about the alleged hijackers cannot have derived from the events of 9/11, with which the survivors in Saudi Arabia would appear to have been uninvolved. Once again this leaves the strong possibility that the details were taken from existing files, rather than from empirical observations on September 11.9 And some of the hijackers, like Lee Harvey Oswald, may have been in CIA files for a special reason: because the CIA had an operational interest in them. Internal CIA Evidence of Operational Interest in Oswald and the Hijackers I have speculated that Oswald, like the al-Qaeda trainer Ali Mohamed, might have been a double agent reporting to the FBI about the terrorist group (Alpha 66) with which some law enforcement officers associated him. I would like now to discuss more unequivocal evidence, from internal CIA records, about an operational CIA interest in first Oswald and later two of the alleged al-Qaeda hijackers, Nawaz al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdar. In 2001 as in 1963 the CIA inexplicably withheld information about the subjects from the FBI, which ought categorically to have received it. The anomalies are extreme. This is now easy to show in the case of Oswald. On October 10, 1963, six weeks before the assassination of John F. Kennedy, CIA Headquarters sent out two messages about Oswald, a teletype to the FBI, State, and Navy, and a cable to the chief of the CIA’s Mexico City station. Both messages contained false and mutually contradictory statements, and also withheld known facts of great potential importance.10 The teletype to the FBI withheld the obviously significant information that Oswald had reportedly met in Mexico City with a Soviet Vice-Consul, Valeriy Kostikov, who was believed by CIA officers to be an officer of the KGB.11 One CIA officer, Jane Roman, helped draft both messages. In 1995 she was confronted by two interviewers with irrefutable evidence that she had signed off on erroneous information about Oswald in the CIA cable to Mexico City. After much questioning, she finally admitted, "I’m signing off on something I know isn’t true." One of the interviewers, John Newman, then asked her, "‘Is this indicative of some sort of operational interest in Oswald’s file?’ ‘Yes,’ Roman replied. ‘To me it’s indicative of a keen interest in Oswald held very closely on the need-to-know basis.’" She later repeated, "I would think there was definitely some operational reason to withhold it [the information at CIA headquarters on Oswald], if it was not sheer administrative error, when you see all the people who signed off on it."12 Other CIA officers withheld important information from the FBI in January 2000, with respect to Khalid al-Mihdar, who would later be identified as one of the al-Qaeda hijackers on September 11, 2001. The NSA overheard on a Yemeni telephone about a meeting in Malaysia which al-Mihdar would attend, along with Tewfiq bin Attash, the mastermind of the fatal attack on the USS Cole.13 It notified the CIA but not the FBI. In consequence [Khalid al-Mihdar’s] Saudi passport – which contained a visa for travel to the United States – was photocopied [in Qatar] and forwarded to CIA headquarters. The information was not shared with FBI headquarters until August 2001. An FBI agent detailed to the Bin Ladin unit at the CIA attempted to share this information with colleagues at FBI Headquarters. A CIA desk officer instructed him not to send the cable with this information. Several hours later, this same desk officer drafted a cable distributed solely within CIA alleging that the visa documents had been shared with the FBI.14 Lawrence Wright, reviewing this and other significant anomalies, reported in The Looming Tower the belief among FBI agents following bin Laden "that the agency was protecting Mihdar and [his companion, the alleged 9/11 hijacker Nawaz al-] Hazmi because it hoped to recruit them," or alternatively that "the CIA was running a joint venture with Saudi intelligence" using al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi.15 Wright himself speculated in a companion essay he wrote for The New Yorker that "The CIA may also have been protecting an overseas operation and was afraid that the F.B.I. would expose it."16 The Consequences of the CIA’s Withholding of Evidence As just noted, the CIA, in its teletype to the FBI of October 10, 1963, withheld the information that Oswald had reportedly met with a KGB officer, Valeriy Kostikov. Former FBI Director Clarence Kelley in his memoir later complained that this failure to inform the FBI was the major reason why Oswald was not put under surveillance on November 22, 1963.17 In other words, the withholding enabled Oswald to play whatever role he played on that fateful day, even if it was only to become a designated patsy. FBI officials are even more bitter about the consequences of the withholding of information about al-Mihdar: They didn’t want the bureau meddling in their business – that’s why they didn’t tell the FBI….They purposely hid from the FBI, purposely refused to tell the bureau that they were following a man in Malaysia who had a visa to come to America….And that’s why September 11 happened. That is why it happened….They have blood on their hands. They have three thousand deaths on their hands.18 But the CIA withheld information from the FBI about bin Attash (already the subject of a criminal investigation) as well, even when asked by an FBI agent, Ali Soufan, about bin Attash and the Malaysia meeting. According to Wright, The agency did not respond to his clearly stated request. The fact that the CIA withheld information about the mastermind of the Cole bombing and the meeting in Malaysia, when directly asked by the FBI, amounted to obstruction of justice in the death of the seventeen American sailors."19 In late August 2001, only days before 9/11, FBI agent Steve Bongardt, complaining about the CIA’s withholding of information about al-Mihdar, correctly predicted in an angry email to the CIA’s bin Laden unit that "someday someone will die."20 The CIA’s Dishonest Efforts to Cover-Up From the moment Congress, in the 1970s, began to evince an interest in the Kennedy assassination, former CIA officer David Phillips became a vigorous defender of the CIA’s performance. With respect to false information about Oswald in CIA cables both to and from Mexico City (where Phillips was in charge of Cuban affairs for the CIA station), Phillips’s first response was to dismiss Oswald as "a blip" of no interest.21 A similar defense of the CIA’s failure to act on al-Mihdar was offered to the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11 by the Director of the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center, Cofer Black: "I think that month we watchlisted about 150 people."22 The same defense was offered by Dale Watson, the FBI’s former counterterrorism chief: There were a lot of red flags prior to 9/11….So it’s a mass of information and it’s a sea of threats, and it’s like working against a maze. If you know where the end point of a maze is, it’s certainly easier to work your way back to the starting point than trying to go through the maze and sort out all the red flags.23 The problem with this excuse is that both Oswald and al-Mihdar were singled out for special CIA attention, not left floating in a sea of red flags. The cable to Mexico City which Jane Roman signed off on was not handled routinely, it was sent for signature to the CIA’s Assistant Deputy Director for Plans, Thomas Karamessines. And in the case of al-Mihdar in Malaysia, back in 2000 CIA leaders were so convinced about the potential significance of the al Qaeda meeting in Malaysia, they not only set up surveillance of it, but provided regular updates to the FBI director [Louis Freeh], the head of the CIA [George Tenet], and the national security advisor [Samuel Berger].24 That Freeh and Berger were being notified at the top about the Malaysia meeting (at the same time that the regular FBI bureaucracy was being cut out) is confirmed in accounts by Terry McDermott and Philip Shenon.25 CIA officials testified falsely to congressional committees with respect to both Oswald and al-Mihdar. James Angleton was asked by the staff of the House Select Committee on Assassinations about a memoir written by the CIA’s station chief in Mexico City, Win Scott, and later personally retrieved for the Agency after Scott’s death by Angleton himself. Angleton testified that Scott’s "manuscript was fictional and did not include a chapter on Oswald." In fact, according to Jefferson Morley, "The only surviving manuscript is clearly nonfictional and does have a chapter on Oswald."26 Both George Tenet and Cofer Black testified before the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11 that the FBI had been granted access to the information linking al-Mihdar and Tewfiq bin Attash (alias Khallad), the mastermind of the Cole bombing. The 9/11 Commission, after a lengthy review of the matter, concluded "this was not the case."27 The CIA, Oswald, and Al-Mihdar: Suppression of Vital Records That the CIA regards its relationship to the suspects Oswald and al-Mihdar as sensitive is further illustrated by its suppression of vital evidence with respect to both. Although in the 1990s all government agencies were required by law to submit their Oswald-related documents to the Assassination Records Review Board, the CIA has been vigorously resisting pressure to do this in the case of former CIA officer George Joannides. In 1963 Joannides was the case officer for AMSPELL, the CIA’s operation in support of the Cuban exile group DRE (Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil). In August 1963 the DRE was in contact with Oswald and participated with him in a radio broadcast which was later distributed with CIA help throughout Latin America.28 According to Jefferson Morley, "four decades after the fact, the most important AMSPELL records are missing from CIA archives – perhaps intentionally." Monthly reports on DRE activities were filed by CIA case officers Ross Crozier and William Kent, and these records were declassified by the ARRB for the periods September 1960-November 1962 and after May 1964. But the board was unable to locate any monthly AMSPELL reports from December 1962 to April 1964. There was a seventeen-month gap in the AMSPELL records, which coincided exactly with the period in which George Joannides handled the group.29 With respect to 9/11, all that is known about suppression so far has to do with the public record. Here it is striking that the Report of the Joint Inquiry by Congress into 9/11 has one glaring redaction of twenty-eight pages, dealing with "sources of foreign support for some of the September 11^th hijackers while they were in the United States." Press reports have specified that this refers to Saudi money which reached al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi in 2000 while they were in San Diego. According to committee cochair Senator Bob Graham, The draft contained a twenty-eight page passage that detailed evidence that Saudis in the United States – Saudi government "spies," Graham called them – had provided financial and logistical support to [al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi] while they lived in Southern California.30 Similarly the 9/11 Commission failed to deal with the information on an FBI "hijacker timeline" that al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi were met at the airport on their first arrival in the United States by Omar al-Bayoumi, the transmitter of the Saudi funds, whom Graham claimed was obviously "a low-ranking Saudi intelligence agent."31 The FBI findings were leaked in an early story in Newsweek: At the airport, they were swept up by a gregarious fellow Saudi, Omar al-Bayoumi, who had been living in the United States for several years. Al-Bayoumi drove the two men to San Diego, threw a welcoming party and arranged for the visitors to get an apartment next to his. He guaranteed the lease, and plunked down $1,550 in cash to cover the first two months' rent.32 One month later, "In January 2003, Graham and the other members of the committee were …the focus of a criminal investigation by the FBI into whether someone on the panel had leaked classified information."33 The 9/11 Commission avoided this sensitive area. It cited the FBI Chronology a total of 52 times in its footnotes, for example at 493n55, concerning al-Mihdar’s travel from Yemen to the Malaysian meeting. But it suppressed the FBI’s report that al-Bayoumi met al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi on their arrival; and it substituted what Shenon calls an "improbable tale" supplied by al-Bayoumi himself: namely, that he had run into the two men two weeks later by accident "at a halal food restaurant" near Los Angeles.34 It is clear that two members of the 9/11 Commission staff who redacted this part of the report – Dietrich Snell and Philip Zelikow – were concerned to tone down what junior staffers considered to be "explosive material" on the Saudis.35 Shenon tells how this section of the 9/11 report was rewritten by Snell and Zelikow, until the text "removed all of the most serious allegations against the Saudis."36 But Snell and Zelikow may have been protecting the CIA as well as the Saudis. We have already noted how Lawrence Wright, looking at the extraordinary CIA record on withholding information about al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi, concluded, "It is also possible, as some FBI investigators suspect, the CIA was running a joint venture with Saudi intelligence."37 Conclusion It is clear, as everyone who has studied these matters closely and impartially concurs, that there have been cover-ups of the CIA’s relationships to first Oswald and later al-Mihdar – cover-ups which in both cases have not yet been adequately resolved. A reasonable conclusion from the available evidence is that the cover-ups were in order to conceal prior CIA operational interest in the designated subjects, just as in the case of Ali Mohamed in the early 1990s. It could of course be a coincidence that people of operational interest to the CIA became designated subjects in the deep events of JFK and 9/11. Another, more disturbing possibility is that those responsible for these events knew of the CIA’s operational interest, and exploited it in such a way as to ensure that the government would be embarrassed into covering up what really happened on those days. A lot of books about 9/11, including my own, have focused on the roles played by Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld on that day. But it is clear that 9/11 involved a USG connection to at least one figure (Ali Mohamed) so sensitive that it had been covered up from the time of the Nosair murder in 1990 and the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. It is probable that Oswald’s covert USG connections also dated back to the time of his strange release from the U.S. Marine Corps in 1959, enabling him to travel to the Soviet Union.38 In short there is a substratum of covert operations underlying both events that antedates the presidencies in which they occurred. Thus one should not expect the cover-up of 9/11 in the G.W. Bush administration to dissipate simply because the Democrats take over the White House, just as the Johnson administration’s cover-up of the Kennedy assassination did not dissipate with the election of Richard Nixon.39 This is said not out of despair, but out of belief in the ultimate resilience and good sense of the American people. The analysis in this book is that America’s involvement in two disastrous wars – first Vietnam and later Iraq – was not an outcome of the people’s will, but rather in large part because of deep events that were used to manipulate that will. Thus this analysis is not an attack on America, but on that manipulative mindset that has twice succeeded in maneuvering America into war. This dominant mindset is not restricted to intelligence agencies, though it is largely rooted there. Over time it has spread into other parts of government, and has also corrupted large sections of the media and even universities. That the mindset is widespread does not however make it either omnipotent or invincible. It is important to identify the dominant mindset clearly, if we are ever going to displace it. It is important also to recognize that the dark topics discussed in this book are not representative of America as a whole. In the half century since the CIA’s first adventures in Burma and Laos, America has continued to be, as in the two centuries before it, a source of life-enhancing innovations, such as the computer and the internet. As Amy Chua has written in her book Day of Empire, If America can rediscover the path that has been the secret to its success since its founding and avoid the temptations of empire building, it could remain the world’s hyperpower in the decades to come – not a hyperpower of coercion and military force, but a hyperpower of opportunity, dynamism, and moral force.40 I have tried to suggest in this book that the key to this rediscovery is the identification and displacement of the manipulative forces that have maneuvered America, almost unsuspectingly, into two unnecessary and disastrous wars. If there is any merit to my analysis, then, to isolate those forces, we must press for the truth about both the Kennedy assassination and 9/11. NOTES 1 Transcript of Dallas Police Channel Two, 12:44 PM; cf. Channel One 12:45 PM, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/; Warren Report 5, 17 Warren Commission Hearings 397, 23 Warren Commission Hearings 916. 2 Clarke, Against All Enemies, 13-14. The list of 19 names, accepted without question by the 9/11 Commission Report, was given by the FBI to the press on September 14, 2001 (Daily Telegraph, September 15, 2001, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/15/whunt15.xml). 3 Transcript of Dallas Police Channel Two, 12:44 PM; cf. Channel One 12:45 PM, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/; Warren Report 5, 17 Warren Commission Hearings 397. 4 E.g. Dallas FBI Report from John Fain, May 12, 1960, 17 Warren Commission Hearings 704, NARA #157-10006-10213 ("Height: 5’10" Weight: 165 lbs." [inaccurate description supplied by Marguerite Oswald]); CIA HQ Cable DIR 74830 to Mexico City, 10 Oct 1963, NARA #104-10015-10048, reproduced in John Newman, Oswald and the CIA (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1995), 512 ("five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty five pounds"). 5 Fingerprint card dated "11-25-63," 17 Warren Commission Hearings 308. 6 Warren Report 5, 144; Sylvia Meagher, Accessories After the Fact (Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2006), 10-13, 78n. After seeing Oswald twice on television, Brennan picked out Oswald in a second lineup (Warren Report, 143). 7 Daily Telegraph, September 23, 2001, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml. Cf. Guardian, September 21 2001, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/21/afghanistan.september112 :" Abdulaziz Al-Omari has also come forward to say he was not on the flight from Boston that crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Centre. An electrical engineer who works in Saudi Arabia, Mr Al-Omari said he was a student in Denver during the mid-1990s, and that his passport and other papers were stolen in a burglary in the US five years ago. … `The name is my name and the birth date is the same as mine,’ he told Asharq al-Aswat, a London-based Arabic newspaper. `But I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Centre in New York.’" 8 Daily Telegraph, September 23, 2001, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml. 9 On October 4, 2001, the FBI issued a press release showing what appeared to be photos from surveillance videotape of two hijackers, Mohammed Atta and Abdulaziz Al-Omari, entering Portland Jetport on the morning of September 11, 2001 (FBI Press Release, October 4, 2001, http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/100401picts.htm ). If valid, these would constitute evidence from the event itself. However the photos are anomalous, in that they show two time superimposed stamps, one showing 5:45, the other showing 5:53. The photos are not cited as evidence in the 9/11 Commission Report. On July 22, 2004, the date of the release of the 9/11 Commission Report, CNN aired what they said was surveillance videotape of two hijackers, Majed Moqed and Khalid al-Mihdar. entering "at one of the security screening points at Dulles International" (CNN, http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0407/22/lad.04.html ). The authenticity of the videotape has been challenged, however, because it lacks the time and date and location identification normally burned into a surveillance video image (Rowland Morgan and Ian Henshall, 9/11 Revealed: The Unanswered Questions [New York: Carroll and Graf, 2005], 117-19). 10 I have argued that the conflicting messages were part of a so-called "marked card" or "barium meal" test to determine if and where leaks of sensitive information were occurring. This was a familiar technique, and was the responsibility of the CI/SIG or Counterintelligence Special Intelligence Group which drafted the two cables. See Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics II: The New Revelations in U.S. Government Files,1994-1999 (Ipswich, MA: Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2007), 17-18, 92; also Peter Dale Scott, "Oswald and the Hunt for Popov's Mole," The Fourth Decade, III, 3 (March 1996), 3; http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=519798. 11 Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics II, 30-33. 12 Jefferson Morley, Our Man in Mexico: Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA (Lawrence, KA: University Press of Kansas, 2008), 196-98. See Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics II, 30-33. 13 Lawrence Wright, The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 (New York: Knopf, 2006), 310. 14 9/11 Commission Report, 502n44. 15 Wright, The Looming Tower, 312, 313. 16 Lawrence Wright, "The Agent," New Yorker, July 10 and 17, 2006, 68. 17 Clarence M. Kelley, Kelley: The Story of an FBI Director (Kansas City: Andrews, McMeel, & Parker, 1987), 268. 18 James Bamford, A Pretext for War: 9/11, Iraq, and the Abuse of America’s Intelligence Agencies (New York: Doubleday, 2004), 224. 19 Wright, The Looming Tower, 329. In his New Yorker story (p. 70), Wright wrote that "By withholding the picture of Khallad [bin Attash]…the C.I.A. may in effect have allowed the September 11th plot to proceed." 20 9/11 Commission Report, 271; Wright, The Looming Tower, 353-54. 21 David Atlee Phillips, Nightwatch, 139; quoted in Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 184. Morley observes that in the 1970s Phillips offered a total of "four not entirely consistent versions of the story of Oswald’s visit to Mexico City." 22 J. Cofer Black testimony before 9/11 Congressional Joint Inquiry, 107th Cong., 2^nd Sess., July 24, 2003. 23 Dale Watson testimony before Joint Inquiry, 107th Cong., 2nd Sess., September 26, 2002. 24 Amy B. Zegart, Flying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11(Princeton, NJ: Princeton UP, 2007), 117. 25 Terry McDermott, Perfect Soldiers: The Hijackers: Who They Were, Why TheyDid It (New York: HarperCollins, 20050, 294n45; Philip Shenon, The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation (New York: Twelve/Hachette, 2008), 141. 26 Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 7, 294. 27 9/11 Commission Report, 267. 28 Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1998), 81-86; Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 170-77. 29 Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 177. 30 Shenon, The Commission, 50-51. 31 Larisa Alexandrovna, "FBI documents contradict 9/11 Commission report," RawStory, February 28, 2008, http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_documents_contradict_Sept._11_Commission_0228.html (met at the airport); Shenon, The Commission, 52 (al-Bayoumi). Al-Bayoumi "apparently did work for Dallah Avco, an aviation-services company with extensive contracts with the Saudi Ministry of Defense and Aviation, headed by Prince Sultan, the father of the Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar" ("The Saudi Money Trail," Newsweek, December 2, 2002, http://www.newsweek.com/id/66665). 32 "The Saudi Money Trail," Newsweek, December 2, 2002. The FBI "hijacker timeline" was released by the FBI on February 4, 2008. See Larisa Alexandrovna, "FBI documents contradict 9/11 Commission report, Rawstory.com, February 28, 2008, http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_documents_contradict_Sept._11_Commission_0228.html. 33 Shenon, The Commission, 54. 34 9/11 Commission Report, 217; Shenon, The Commission, 52-53. 35 Shenon, The Commission, 398. 36 Shenon, The Commission, 398. 37 Wright, The Looming Tower, 313. Looking at the same evidence, Christopher Ketcham has raised an alternative possibility, that "the CIA may have subcontracted to Mossad, given that the agency was both prohibited by law from conducting intelligence operations on U.S. soil, and lacked a pool of competent Arabic-fluent field officers. In such a scenario, the CIA would either have worked actively with the Israelis or quietly abetted an independent operation on U.S. soil…. When in the spring of 2002 the scenario of CIA's domestic subcontracting to foreign intelligence was posed to the veteran CIA/NSA intelligence operative, with whom I spoke extensively, the operative didn't reject it out of hand" (Christopher Ketcham, "Cheering Movers and Art Student Spies: What Did Israel Know in Advance of the 9/11 Attacks?" CounterPunch, February 7, 2007, http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=73&contentid=4253&page=2 ). 38 Oswald requested a dependency discharge from the Marines in August 1959, "on the ground that his mother needed his support" (Warren Report, 688). Accordingly Marine Lt. A.G. Ayers, Jr. signed a document for Oswald’s release to inactive duty on September 11, 1959 (19 WH 679, cf. 17 WH 762) "by reason of hardship (19 WH 678). However Lt. Ayers should have known that Oswald had no intention of staying in Texas to support his mother; he had already, on September 4, 1959, signed an affidavit in support of Oswald’s passport application "to attend the College of A. Schweitzer, Chur, Switzerland and the Univ of Turku, Turku, Finland" (22 WH 77-79). (It is a sign of some covert intrigue that the language of instruction at the University of Turku was Finnish, a language Oswald did not know.) 39 A significant symptom of this enduring substratum has been the Bush Administration’s protection of Samuel Berger, Clinton’s national security advisor. Berger pleaded guilty in April 2005 to having stolen 9/11 documents from the National Archives (Shenon, The Commission, 414). A condition of his plea bargain was to submit to a Justice Department polygraph test, to determine what documents had been stolen. Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, a long-time critic of CIA operations in Afghanistan, revealed to the House in February 2008 that he had written to the Bush Justice Department, demanding that it administer the polygraph test, and that the Justice Department had rejected his demand (Congressional Record, February 26, 2008, House, pp. H1065-H1072). We have already seen that Berger when in office was receiving regular reports from the CIA about the presence of al-Mihdar and al-Hamzi at the Kuala Lumpur meeting (Zegart, Flying Blind, 117). It is possible that these were the reports he was stealing from the Archives, and that the Justice Department refusal to administer the polygraph test is part of a cover-up to protect the CIA’s relationship to the two Saudis. 40 Amy Chua, Day of Empire: How Hyperpowers Rise to Global Dominance – and Why They Fall (New York: Doubleday, 2007), 342. Peter Dale Scott, a former Canadian diplomat and professor at the University of California, Berkeley, is the author of the forthcoming The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War, due in August 2008. This previously unpublished essay is the concluding section of the new book, which can be ordered from the Mary Ferrell Foundation Press by clicking here at http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/MFF_Store. His website is http://www.peterdalescott.net.
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Jesse C. Trentadue (#4961) 8 East Broadway, Suite 200 Salt Lake City, UT 84111 Telephone: (801) 532-7300 Facsimile: (801) 532-7355 jesse32@sautah.com Pro Se Plaintiff UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF UTAH, CENTRAL DIVISION JESSE C. TRENTADUE, Plaintiff, vs. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION and FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION’S OKLAHOMA CITY FIELD OFFICE , Defendants. :::::::::::::::: MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO CONDUCT DISCOVERY Case No.: 2:04 CV 00772 DAK Judge Dale A. Kimball Magistrate David Nuffer Plaintiff hereby submits this Memorandum in support of his Motion to Conduct Discovery, Doc. No. 97. 2 ANALYSIS OF FBI DEFENDANTS’ RESPONSE Plaintiff has previously submitted a Memorandum detailing FBI Defendants’ bad faith in responding to the Court’s Order of May 5, 2005. (Doc. No. 59.) But part of that response bears repeating in conjunction with the Court’s consideration of this pending Motion to depose Terry Lynn Nichols and David Paul Hammer and to videotape those depositions. Specifically, Plaintiff wishes to again call to the Court’s attention FBI teletypes dated April 25, 2995 and August 16, 1995, attached hereto as, respectively, Exhibits 1 and 2. Exhibit 1 is an April 25, 1995 teletype from the FBI Little Rock, Arkansas field office to Director Louie Freeh. The subject of this teletype is an undercover FBI operative who had infiltrated various militia movements, including the Michigan Militia, “Constitution Rangers” and the “Arizona Patriots.” This undercover operative is alleged to be knowledgeable about the identities of various members of these groups associated with “Timothy Jack McVeigh.” This teletype is dated within a week following the Murrah Building bombing. It is the oldest document FBI Defendants produced to Plaintiff. In other words, even though there was an undercover operative involved with McVeigh and members of various Montgomery, militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh, the FBI failed to produce any records older than this teletype! FBI Defendants would have the Court believe that there are no earlier records, but that in and of itself is incredible since no one would believe that this undercover investigation did not predate the bombing. Furthermore, according to this document the undercover operative, an individual whose name has been redacted, is discussing someone who bears “a close resemblance to unknown suspect no. 2 [John Doe 2].” Equally incredible is that an FBI agent is ordered to interview this informant, including a “detailed debriefing to be conducted by FBI at Montgomery, Alabama”1 yet, among all the documents produced, there is not one FD-302 report of an interview with this or any other informant. Exhibit 2 is an August 16, 1995, teletype from the FBI’s Albuquerque field office to Director Louie Freeh concerning an informant who is reporting that an individual whose name has been redacted “may have assisted McVeigh in the Oklahoma bombing.” This document likewise refers to the fact that this person apparently frequents Elohim 4 City and is very knowledgeable with respect to explosives, but as is typical for FBI Defendants, there is no FD-302 produced of any interview with this informant. These Exhibits clearly document that FBI Defendants had infiltrated, through a number of informants, the bombing conspiracy. That there were others involved in this conspiracy besides McVeigh and Nichols is clearly set forth in the Declarations of Terry Lynn Nichols, and David Paul Hammer. Nichols identifies in his Declaration individuals who he now suspects were FBI operatives involved in this failed sting operation. It is Plaintiff’s belief that if deposed, Nichols and Hammer could provide valuable information related not only to the Oklahoma City bombing but, more importantly, to FBI Defendants’ bad faith response to Plaintiff’s FOIA requests and this Court’s Order of May 5, 2005. THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE CASE FOR DISCOVERY Admittedly, discovery is not a common litigation tool employed in a FOIA suit. Nevertheless, discovery is appropriate in a FOIA case when there is reason to believe, as in this case, that the agency is either withholding records or did not conduct an adequate search for the materials. See Information Acquisition Corp. v. Dept. of Justice, 444 F.Supp. 458 (D.C. 1978). See also Murphy v. Fed Bureau of Investigation, 490 F.Supp. 1134 (D.C. 1980); Giza v. Sec’y of Health, Education and Welfare, 628 F.2d 748, 751 (lst 5 Cir. 1980); Niren v. INS, 103 F.R.D. 10 (D. Or. 1984); Reisberg v. Dept. of Justice, 543 F.2d 308 (D.C. Cir. 1976). Given FBI Defendants’ obvious failure to comply in good faith with their obligations under FOIA and this Court’s Order, Plaintiff respectfully submits that he should be allowed to take the depositions of Terry Nichols and David Paul Hammer, and to videotape those depositions. DATED this 16th day of February, 2007. /s/ Jesse C. Trentadue Jesse C. Trentadue
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2 reads about the taxpayer funded FBI agents who created the Oklahoma City bombing 1st read Utah lawyer can question, videotape Terry Nichols By Pamela Manson The Associated Press 09/26/2008 A judge has reaffirmed an order that a Utah attorney can conduct taped depositions of Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Nichols and a federal death-row inmate. Attorney Jesse Trentadue says the two prisoners have information about the 1995 death of his brother, who he believes was murdered in a federal prison after guards mistook him for an accomplice in the bombing. Kenneth Trentadue was found hanged in his cell in August 1995 at a federal prison in Oklahoma City, where he was being held on an alleged parole violation. Although the death was ruled a suicide, Trentadue family members think Kenneth died during an interrogation that got out of hand. To support that theory, Jesse Trentadue has filed three Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits seeking information on the bombing and the FBI's alleged withholding of relevant documents he has requested. In September 2007, U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball gave him the go-ahead to depose Nichols and David Paul Hammer, who is on death row at the federal penitentiary at Terre Haute, Ind. The judge said information from the two men might help Trentadue better identify the existence of other records pertaining to his FOIA requests. Lawyers for the FBI asked Kimball to reconsider his ruling, contending that judges in FOIA cases lack the authority to order Advertisement depositions and that a video recording would pose a threat to prison security. Kimball rejected those arguments, but on Thursday did limit the use of video recording equipment to the rooms where the depositions are taken. Both inmates already have supplied Trentadue with written affidavits concerning Timothy McVeigh, who carried out the bombing and was executed in 2001. Nichols - who is serving a life sentence at the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colo. - claims a high-ranking FBI official "apparently" was directing McVeigh in the plot. Both Nichols and Hammer, who says he had lengthy conversations with McVeigh while the two were both housed at the Terre Haute facility, say McVeigh claimed to be an undercover operative for the military. The FBI has denied any role in the bombing. 2nd read February 23, 2007 at 12:29:46 http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/genera_j_m__ber_070222_terry_nichols_allege.htm Terry Nichols Alleges FBI Played Role In Oklahoma City Bombing by J.M. Berger Terry Nichols alleged in an affidavit filed Feb. 16 that Deputy FBI Director Larry Potts was involved in plotting the Oklahaoma City Bombing along with convicted bomber Timothy McVeigh. Potts denied the allegation in published reports this week. The full text of the affidavit is available here. Please credit and link INTELWIRE.com when reporting from these documents. "From the outset, I want to acknowledge my poor judgment and culpability in having assisted Timothy McVeigh," wrote Nichols. In the affidavit, Nichols admitted helping McVeigh build a truck bomb, but said the bomb he helped build was different from the bomb McVeigh described in interviews prior to his execution. Nichols denied any connection between the Oklahoma City bombing and his frequent visits to the Philippines. Nichols activities in that country have long been the subject of speculation, because the timing and location of his visits coincided with visits to the country by World Trade Center Bomber Ramzi Yousef (INTELWIRE analysis). Nichols named gun dealer Roger Moore and Potts as "co-conspirators" in the bombing plot. Nichols has named Moore as a co-conspirator in the past. "In December of 1992, Timothy McVeigh told me that while he was serving in the U.S. Army, he had been recruited to carry out undercover missions," Nichols wrote. "McVeigh did not say who had recruited him or specify the nature of his mission. McVeigh did say, however, that he was to begin making contacts with a 'network' of people after the first of the year." The network was located "down south," Nichols wrote. Nichols claimed McVeigh threatened him and his family if Nichols did not cooperate in the bombing conspiracy. He claimed McVeigh identified Potts in "an accidental slip of the tongue." Potts told the Oklahoman newspaper the allegations were "just nonsense and ridiculous." No further documentation was offered as part of the filing which would support the allegations. Another affidavit alleging flaws in the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing was given by David Paul Hammer, who shared a cell with McVeigh prior to McVeigh's execution. The full text of that affidavit is available here. The affidavits were filed as part of a lawsuit filed by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue. Trentadue, a Salt Lake City attorney, has been involved in litigation against the U.S. government since the death of his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, in federal custody on Aug. 21, 1995. Kenneth Trentadue's death was initially declared a suicide by prison officials, but the family discovered signs of numerous injuries when preparing him for burial. The family was awarded more than $1 million after winning a wrongful death suit against the government. Trentadue's legal battle has resulted in the release of dozens of pages of previously withheld FBI documents concerning the bombing. Those documents are available here. INTELWIRE has also obtained numerous documents directly and indirectly related to the bombing and to alleged additional conspirators in the bombing, as well as documents related to Trentadue's court case. Those documents include the following: # State Dept. FOIA: Nichols-Philippines # Nichols: I Have New OKC Evidence # Nichols Affidavit and Letter # Full Text: Rohrabacher OKC Report # Informant Report: McVeigh-Strassmeir Call # FBI Interrogation: Andreas Strassmeir # 1991 Memo: 'Turner Diaries' Warning # Zawahiri Statement On OKC Bombing # Documents: Aryan Republican Army http://intelwire.egoplex.com/ J.M. Berger is a freelance reporter, researcher and producer with experience in print, television, radio and film. He also runs the terrorism Web site INTELWIRE.com (http://intelwire.egoplex.com).
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3 reads about FBI agents creating terror.................. From: Jesse Trentadue Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:16 AM To: Jesse Trentadue Subject: NEW STORIES http://riseuprochester.org/2008/10/17/jesse-trentadues-quest-for-truth/ http://www.nopc.info/forum/showthread.php?t=32286 Jesse Trentadue Attorney at Law Suitter Axland, PLLC 8 East Broadway, Suite 200 Salt Lake City, UT 84111 Telephone: 801/532.7300 Fax: 801/532.7355 jesse32@sautah.com Jesse Trentadue’s Quest for Truth 17 October 2008 October 17, 2008 New developments in the near fourteen year quest to determine the actual truth behind the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing can be attributed to the tireless work of attorney, Jesse Trentadue. Trentadue, a former Marine, began his personal mission in an attempt to uncover the cause of his brother’s death. Jesse’s brother Kenny Trentadue was murdered, or rather, “suicided” in a federal penitentiary under alarmingly mysterious circumstances, after he was mistaken for Richard Guthrie, a member of the Aryan Republican Army and Midwest Bank Robbers, whose exact role in the Oklahoma City bombing is still fully unknown. Kenny Trentadue was another forgotten victim of the OKBOMB, as the FBI liked to call it. Jesse Trentadue, since then, has become the legal and informational vanguard for other victims of the bombings, such as Jannie Coverdale, w ho lost her two young grandsons in the blast, and has herself fought the FBI, DOJ and almost every other federal agency you can think of to find the truth. Trentadue has been instrumental in having unreleased documents made public through the eroding Freedom of Information Act, as well as other litigious methods. His work is ceaseless and justifiably driven. A few of the more astounding recent breakthroughs that Trentadue has made involve the CIA, FBI and BOP (Bureau of Prisons). Talk about alphabet soup. This kind is poison. On September 25, 2008 Trentadue won a ruling, which he had sought for over a year and a half to depose, on video, federal inmates David Paul Hammer and Terry Nichols. Nichols, who was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for his still unknown role in the bombing, says he is ready to tell all. Yet, the DOJ, FBI and BOP have made this task almost impossible, claiming that such as deposition would be detrimental to prison security. Picture of the Murrah Federal Building on May 19, 1995. Image via Wikipedia This is also the claim made by these agencies about deposing Hammer. Hammer, who is currently on Death Row in Terre Haute, Indiana, was housed in a cell next to the elusive and mysterious Timothy McVeigh for the last couple years of McVeigh’s life. Hammer, who wrote the book Secrets Worth Dying For, was the recipient of some of McVeigh’s “final” confessions. These include his corroborated claims of being an agent of the government during the planning and execution of the bombing. Secrets Worth Dying for is one of the most chilling books on OKC and one which is worth reading for anyone with an interest in this case. Hammer recently told me that a new edition of the book will be released on April 19, 2009 and will contain further verified information regarding the exact role of Timothy “Lone Truck Bomber” McVeigh. Trentadue finally won his suit to depose these men on video, says that he believes the government will appeal this ruling. What do they have to hide? On October 10, 2008, Trentadue, an unbelievably brave man, filed a complaint with the US district court of Utah, against the CIA, claiming that since December of 2006, the CIA has continuously withheld information which they were compelled by law, via the FOIA, to release to Trentadue. Information which was requested but which has to this date, been withheld concern the CIA’s investigation and/or involvement in OKC, information regarding German National Andreas Strassmier’s role as an informant/ agent in the bombing, and the nature of his exact relationship with McVeigh and the Aryan Republican Army/ Midwest bank robbers. The difficulty in attaining this protected information was also previously encountered by several others, including McVeigh and Nichols own defense attorneys. Yet, Trentadue is not trying to defend these men or their actions. He is trying to find out the truth of his brothers gruesome murder. Trentadue has demanded in his filing that all information concerning “all investigations into the CIA’s role, involvement with or connection to the Murrah Building Bombing whether through employees, informants, operatives or other means” be turned over ASAP. He also has been fighting to obtain similar records from the FBI, and ATF. His last letter, written to officials at the CIA, written March 2008 concluded with the line “I hope there will be no need for me to sue in order to obtain these records.” This should be interesting, to say the least. Finally, on October 12, 2008 Trentadue filed another Freedom of Information Act to obtain records from the FBI. He has now requested copies of all surveillance video tapes which are related to OKC, including all surveillance tapes from in and around the Murrah building from the dates of April 15- April 19, which include the interior and exterior cameras of the Regency Apartments, located across from the Murrah, security camera on the west side of the Murrah and one on the south of the Journal Records building. (Anyone having 9/11 Pentagon déjà vous?) Included in these OKC surveillance video tapes is one which is mentioned in a Secret Service memo. It is stated in this memo that one of these videos contained: [s]ecurity video tapes from the area [that] show the [Ryder] truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the SUSPECTS exited the truck.” Unless the Secret Service is ill informed on the use of grammar, the word SUSPECTS clearly implies a massive cover-up or worse. Trentadue is also requesting all reports which reference the FBI’s seizure of these tapes and the chain of possession with which they were handled in their eventual disappearance from the FBI’s (and others) files. Furthermore, Trentadue is asking for all video tape and records which can illuminate the truck, known to be at the site of the bombing, which was traveling behind McVeigh when he was arrested by Trooper Charlie Hangar in Perry, Oklahoma, an hour after the blast. Hangar had dashboard video equipment in his patrol car, but somehow this was mysteriously turned off until after Hangar had actually arrested McVeigh. We wish Trentadue the best of luck. We hope he knows that all OKC researchers, as well as anyone interested in uncovering these types of governmental abuses, are holding their breaths while they wait for the eventual release of these documents and tapes. God Speed, Jesse Trentadue. Wendy S. Painting recently finished a Masters degree from the State University of New York and is currently pursuing a PhD. She is working on a book about the Oklahoma City bombing.
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The Boston FBI Crime Family has taken over the lucrative Logan Airport Terrorist Rackets as part of their expansion plan since they created 911, Oklahoma City bombing, and 1st World trade center bombing. 2 reads Logan gets anti-terror force By Donna Goodison Wednesday, October 22, 2008 A joint terrorism task force will get dedicated space at Logan International Airport under an agreement signed yesterday with the FBI that marks a first for U.S. airports. The 2,700 square feet of office space on the sixth floor of Logan’s old air traffic control tower will be used by the force, which may include personnel from the Secret Service, Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Transportation Security Administration, Federal Air Marshal program, Massachusetts State Police, and Customs and Border Protection. “Our No. 1priority is preventing terrorism attacks,” FBI Special Agent Gail Marcinkiewicz said. “Considering we have jurisdiction over crimes committed aboard aircraft, this would enable us to have a better response time at the airport.” Representatives from the FBI, Customs, TSA, the Federal Aviation Administration, airlines and other law enforcement agencies already attend daily 8:30 a.m. security briefings at Logan with Massport’s aviation operations staff, a practice that started after the 9/11 terrorism attacks. “The idea of having the JTTF space on the airport is to improve communications in a secure environment,” Massport spokesman Matt Brelis said. In lieu of paying for rent, utilities and maintenance, the FBI will cover the estimated $750,000 design and renovation of the facility, which should be ready next year. 2nd read November 22, 2006 Terry Nichols: I Have Evidence Of OKC Conspiracy by J.M. Berger http://www.opednews.com Terry Nichols has asked to meet with a Salt Lake City attorney investigating the Oklahoma City bombing. In a letter to attorney Jesse Trentadue, Nichols wrote out a detailed affidavit in which he claims to have evidence of "others unknown" -- additional conspirators in the Oklahoma City bombing who have not been brought to justice. "I do have substantial evidence and information that clearly reveals the involvement of 'others unknown' and federal government coverup," Nichols wrote. Click here for a copy of the affidavit and letter. Only Nichols and convicted bomber Timothy McVeigh have ever been brought to trial for conspiring to bomb the Alfred E. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Persistent and credible reports have identified several individuals within U.S. white supremacist groups who may have played a role in assisting the bombing. In the new letter, dated Nov. 8, Nichols made several claims about his conditions of imprisonment and attempts to disclose information about the Oklahoma City bombing. His claims could not immediately be verified, but several of Nichols' statements match known facts from other sources. Nichols claimed his attempts to communicate with journalists have been blocked, and that his mail and phone calls have been intercepted. INTELWIRE and an outside party attempted to correspond with Nichols in 2005, but received no response. INTELWIRE sent Nichols with a Freedom of Information Act privacy waiver and a request for his signature. A signed waiver would preclude the FBI from withholding documents concerning Nichols on the basis of alleged privacy concerns. Nichols said that on Sept. 8, 2004, he mailed a letter to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft stating that he had information concerning additional conspirators in the Oklahoma City bombing. According to Nichols, the letter was never acknowledged. Nichols then turned to fellow inmates Emilio Brava and Gregory Scarpa, who said he could get a message to outside investigators. Scarpa, a former mob boss, has also served as an FBI informant, most notably informing on Ramzi Yousef while both were incarcerated in a New York prison. Although Scarpa did pass Nichols' material on to investigators Stephen Dresch and Angela Clemente, Nichols grew to distrust Scarpa, who was also cooperating with the FBI. The information given to Scarpa eventually led to an FBI search of Nichols' former home in Herington, Kansas. Materials found in the house -- which the FBI neglected to find in 1995 -- closely matched the information provided by Nichols. (External link) Nichols also invited Trentadue to meet with him. Trentadue, a Salt Lake City attorney, began investigating the Oklahoma City bombing after the death of his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, in federal custody on Aug. 21, 1995. Kenneth Trentadue's death was initially declared a suicide by prison officials, but the family discovered signs of numerous injuries when preparing him for burial. The family was awarded more than $1 million after winning a wrongful death suit against the government. Jesse Trentadue's lawsuit over the FBI's disclosure stems from a belief that his brother was killed because of his resemblance to Richard Lee Guthrie, a white supremacist and bank robber who has been credibly linked to the Oklahoma City bombing by numerous reports, including those from the Associated Press, J.D. Cash of the McCurtain Gazette and In Bad Company, a 2001 book by criminology professor Mark S. Hamm. Guthrie was later apprehended by authorities. Just days before he was scheduled to testify against one of his accomplices in the bank robbery gang, Guthrie was found dead of a purported suicide in his cell. His alleged means of suicide was hanging, the same cause of death originally cited by prison officials for Kenneth Trentadue. INTELWIRE has obtained documents related to the death of Guthrie under the Freedom of Information Act. Click here to view those documents. Nichols wrote to Trentadue earlier this year. Click here for a INTELWIRE coverage and the full text of the letter. Trentadue obtained several documents from the FBI after a lawsuit resolved in his favor earlier this year. Click here for more information on those documents. http://intelwire.egoplex.com/okindex.html#trentadue http://intelwire.egoplex.com/ J.M. Berger is a freelance reporter, researcher and producer with experience in print, television, radio and film. He also runs the terrorism Web site INTELWIRE.com (http://intelwire.egoplex.com).
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Increased Tensions with Unresolved 9/11 Issues Top 25 of 2011 Several contentious issues still plague the US government and their version of the events of September 11, 2001. Those in political power along with media elites would like to see the ongoing grassroots debates surrounding unanswered 9/11 questions and discrepancies disappear, despite the mountains of evidence that suggest that American citizens were told little about the truth of the biggest single-day attack on their homeland in history. Nearly ten years after the events, many unanswered questions still exist: How did Building 7 fall? What caused the destruction of the twin towers? Where is Osama bin Laden? Are people that question the official story of 9/11 dangerous conspiracy theorists? Student Researchers: Mike Smith, Nolan Higdon, and Sy Cowie (Diablo Valley College) Mikey Hemkens, Ryan Huffman, and Colin Doran (DePauw University) Greg Bernardi (Sonoma State University) Faculty Evaluators: Mickey Huff (Diablo Valley College) Andrea Sununu and Kevin Howley (DePauw University) Rick Luttmann and Peter Phillips (Sonoma State University) The academics and intellectuals who have tried to answer these questions have been ignored or derided by corporate mainstream (and even some progressive leftist) media, political pundits, and government officials who clearly intend to silence the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement, or anyone who questions the officially sanctioned government stance on the matter. However, the questions will not go away and increasingly beg for answers. As of spring 2010, over 1,200 architects and engineers are calling for a new investigation into the events of 9/11. These building professionals and academics are motivated by the fact that the 9/11 Commission Report has been proven erroneous on multiple counts, scientific explanations have been flawed and contradictory, and the American people deserve a more fact-based explanation. At the same time, new evidence of explosives that can be used in controlled demolition has been found in the dust traces of the World Trade Center (WTC) towers and Building 7 of the WTC complex. After careful examination of the official story about 9/11 (in which the commission never even mentioned Building 7), along with the forensic data omitted from official reports, these professionals have concluded that a new independent and transparent investigation into these massive and mysterious structural failures is needed. Richard Gage, a San Francisco–based architect and founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, states, “The official Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and National Institute of Standards and Technologies (NIST) reports provide insufficient and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers’ destruction.” Gage, along with other architects and engineers, attacked NIST’s first reports such that NIST eventually changed their conclusions, addressed new evidence, and released a new draft report in 2008. In the thirty days after the 2008 draft report was released, NIST took public questions on the report. Gage’s group sent a letter that covered myriad inconsistencies and omissions in the 2008 report. However, the final report released later in 2008 addressed almost none of the concerns raised. The scientific method was not adhered to in this study. Gage and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth’s actions pushed NIST to recognize that Building 7, a forty-seven-story skyscraper that was not hit by an aircraft, did come down at free fall acceleration for more than one hundred feet. An explanation as to how or why it fell at free fall speed was not provided by NIST. NIST continues to state that looking at the thermitic materials found at Ground Zero noted in the demolition theory “would not necessarily have been conclusive.” Despite their own claim that evidence of demolition is inconclusive, they decided not to test or address it at all, as if this could not and/or did not happen (see chapter 7 of this book for more details). Again, the scientific method was not fully followed by government agencies. In other 9/11 related matters, there is the ongoing mystery regarding the whereabouts of the alleged perpetrator, Osama bin Laden. Even though bin Laden did not take credit for the incident (he in fact claimed the contrary, nor is the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) holding him as a suspect in those crimes due to lack of evidence) government officials of both parties regularly refer to bin Laden as the one responsible for the 9/11 attacks (see story #16 in Censored 2008). Furthermore, Dr. David Ray Griffin, a former professor at California’s Claremont School of Theology and author of numerous books on 9/11 issues, suggests that Osama bin Laden has been dead for nearly nine years. He argues that bin Laden died on December 13, 2001, of kidney failure or a kidney-related illness. There are records of bin Laden being treated in an American hospital in Dubai for a urinary infection, often linked with kidney disease, and a related order for a mobile dialysis machine, essential to his survival, that was shipped to Afghanistan. Griffin, along with doctors that he cites, says it would be impossible for bin Laden to survive in a cave with that machine for any substantial period of time. Griffin goes on to note that the US and British governments are aware of bin Laden’s death, and have been covering it up to continue the war on terror. (See Griffin’s book on the subject, Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive?). In other ongoing tension concerning 9/11 on the home front, President Obama’s appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, claims that the United States government should infiltrate and discredit activist groups. Sunstein’s call to discredit groups includes those who challenge the official views of the 9/11 attacks, the so-called 9/11 ‘truthers.’ Sunstein acknowledges that the US government has been involved in conspiracies in the past, but he confidently believes that this is no longer a problem. (See the Truth Emergency section of this volume for more on this issue, especially chapter 6.) He claims that groups that question the events of 9/11 are dangerous and could lead some people to violence (while presenting no concrete evidence to prove this). Sunstein maintains that refuting these groups in public is not productive. He suggests that the most effective method of refute is to infiltrate and cogitatively discredit their internal sources. Sunstein is essentially calling for a return of the Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO) from the cold war days when agents of the US government covertly infiltrated antiwar and civil rights groups with the intent to disrupt and discredit their activities—provoking violence or planning illegal acts themselves in order to bring groups up on criminal charges. Sunstein’s call for infiltration of private citizen groups plays to the very concerns of many 9/11 activists—concerns that they may be targeted or infiltrated, tried on some trumped up terrorist or criminal charges, and then may not get a fair public hearing. (For more on this, see story #6 in Censored 2009, and story #20 in Censored 2008.) Such a climate of fear and intimidation does not bode well for First Amendment rights, nor for academic freedom in the US, let alone the possibility of discovering the truth about what really happened on September 11. Update by Shawn Hamilton Over one thousand architects and engineers have signed a petition to reinvestigate the 9/11 destruction. When I went to San Francisco to cover the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) press conference, I didn’t tell the news department with which I am most closely allied; I was afraid I’d be told not to do the story. This may not surprise anyone considering mainstream media’s deafening silence on 9/11 issues, but this wasn’t an organ of mainstream media; it was an alternative radio station founded on principles that encourage coverage of underreported stories. To be fair, no news director said I couldn’t cover the story, and the story ran that weekend. The point is that I had felt constrained by the prevailing atmosphere of suspicion and fear surrounding media reception of 9/11 topics generally—including at this “progressive” station where people are sharply divided on the issue. I’ve never seen such general weirdness surrounding media coverage of an issue except for the Kennedy assassination. In the 1970s people mocked those few who suggested Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t act alone, branding them “conspiracy nuts,” just as 9/11 activists now are labeled “truthers,” which sounds like “flat earthers.” Some of these activists have embraced the “truther” tag, but I suggest they should refrain. The term is not meant to be a compliment. I asked theologian David Ray Griffin, who spoke at the conference, why he thought the media was acting so bizarrely towards 9/11 issues. Griffin pointed out how the terms “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” are manipulated to make reporters fear losing their reputations and jobs. “You know how it works. Everybody in the media knows how it works,” he said. “Nobody has to be explicitly threatened; they just know the rules.” The press conference was a newsworthy story whether or not anything the group claims is true. It’s a valid story because so many citizens are questioning the official explanations for the tragedy of September 11, 2001. The fact that over a thousand licensed architects and engineers are demanding a new investigation increases that relevance. If what they say is even partly true, the implications are profound, but either way, there’s a legitimate story. I don’t expect news agencies to endorse the views of groups like AE911Truth; that’s not their proper role. I do expect them not to run for cover when they hear those unsettling words: “9/11.” Democracy is not served by reporters fearing to cover sensitive stories. As of summer 2010, AE911Truth (ae911truth.org) has gotten more than 1,200 building professionals to sign its petition to Congress demanding a truly independent investigation, and a new group has formed called Firefighters for 9-11 Truth (firefightersfor911truth.org) that challenges official reports and public misconceptions of what occurred on September 11. A group called New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (nyccan.org) is attempting to convince the New York City Council to investigate the anomalous circumstances surrounding the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (ae911truth.org/index.php/news/41-articles/286-nyccan-ae911truth-ask-ny-city-council.html). All the Web sites I’ve mentioned have links to some of the more credible 9/11 Web sites. The AE911Truth links page is a good place to start. I will be following related issues on this Web site as well: examiner.com/x-36199-Conspiracy-Examiner. My email address is lesseroftwoevils@rocketmail.com. Update by Daniel Tencer In May 2010, the New York Times Magazine ran a comprehensive profile of Cass Sunstein, the first such profile to be found in the mainstream media since the law professor took over as head of the White House’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA). The article’s title—“Cass Sunstein Wants to Nudge Us”—is an understatement given the views Sunstein has expressed over the years, but it at least heads in the right thematic direction: that much of Sunstein’s academic writing has been focused on social control and government control over information. Not surprisingly, the article treated Sunstein with kid gloves and largely glossed over the more controversial elements of his ideas. It focused on him as one of the leading proponents of the concept of “libertarian paternalism,” a burgeoning new field of study that blends behavioral psychology with free-market economics and posits that people can be “nudged” into making the right choices (i.e., the government’s desired choices) not by laws and regulations, but by making the “right” choice seem more psychologically appealing. Writing at the Huffington Post, Russ Baker criticized the New York Times for “burying” Sunstein’s more controversial assertions thirty-five paragraphs into the story, where we are finally told that he advocated for the “cognitive infiltration” of conspiracy theory groups. The Times then quotes Sunstein suggesting that, as a government official, he would not execute the more radical or experimental elements of his academic ideas. But, as Baker points out, that comment was made in the fall of 2009—before Sunstein’s paper on conspiracy theories came to light in the media. What appears in the Times to be Sunstein backing off his more controversial ideas is, in actuality, no such thing. Understanding Cass Sunstein and his effect on government and society is made difficult by two things. The first is that he is a political chimera who has supporters and detractors on both sides of the political spectrum. Among conservative critics, the populists have come out against him, while the intellectuals appear to have thrown their weight behind him. Even as Glenn Beck declared Sunstein to be “more powerful than the Fed” and desirous of “controlling your every move,” columnist George F. Will declared that his ideas would lead to better, smaller government and would “have the additional virtue of annoying those busybody, nanny-state liberals.” In the UK, Sunstein’s works are “required reading for aspiring Conservative MPs,” reports the Daily Telegraph. The second element making it difficult to understand Sunstein is that his position inside the government deals primarily with dry, bureaucratic issues that fail to capture the imaginations of either the mainstream press or the alternative media. As head of OIRA, Sunstein is responsible for reviewing all new government regulations. Yet thus far his decisions—those that we know of—have been on a small scale and largely technical, such as his call to streamline the process of naming and writing regulations so that citizens have better access to them. Sunstein did, however, manage to anger environmentalists recently when he blocked a new Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulation that would list coal ash as a dangerous carcinogen. Environmentalists accused him of caving to the coal industry, which doesn’t want to see its coal ash disposal costs rise under the new rule. So where is Sunstein headed? Is he likely to attempt the sort of information control programs that he has advocated in the past? Even if he does, it’s likely the mainstream media will support at least some of his efforts to push the political debate towards an “acceptable” center. In a 2009 New Yorker review of his book On Rumors, Sunstein is given credit for predicting the circumstances that would lead to the rise of Internet rumors such as the “birther” claim that President Obama wasn’t born in the US, and the “death panel” allegation about health care reform. He is then cast as the hero fighting against these trends. Given the existing precedent, it’s likely that any attempt Sunstein makes at shaping the content of public information will likely find a positive hearing in the old guard media. Sources: PR News Wire, “1,000 Architects & Engineers Call for New 9/11 Investigation: Cite Evidence of Explosive Demolition at Three World Trade Center Towers,” February 19, 2009, http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/1000-architects—engineers-call-for-new-911-investigation-84768402.html. Shawn Hamilton, “Over 1,000 Architects and Engineers Have Signed Petition to Reinvestigate 9-11 Destruction,” Examiner.com, February 23, 2010, http://www.examiner.com/x-36199-Conspiracy-Examiner. Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth, “1,000+ Architects & Engineers Officially Demand New 9/11 Investigation,” Infowars.com, January 18, 2010, http://www.infowars.com/1000-architects-engineers-officially-demand-new-911-investigation. Global Research, “1,000 Architects & Engineers Call for a Real 9/11 Investigation,” January 25, 2010, http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17507. Sue Reid, “Has Osama bin Laden Been Dead for Seven Years—And Are the US and Britain Covering It Up to Continue War on Terror?” Daily Mail (UK), September 1, 2009, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212851/Has-Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-seven-years—U-S-Britain-covering-continue-war-terror.html. Daniel Tencer, “Obama Staffer Wants ‘Cognitive Infiltration’ of 9/11 Conspiracy Groups,” RawStory, January 13, 2010, http://rawstory.com/2010/01/obama-staffer-infiltration-911-groups. Similar Posts: Several Good Reasons To Have A Copy Of Censored 2011 Permanently On Your Home Bookshelf Peter Phillips and Mickey Huff Ask Activists to Boost Support at KPFA Manipulating the Public Agenda 1346 Architects & Engineers Demand a New Investigation Into The Collapse of the World Trade Centers on 9/11/2001 111 Responses for “14. 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David Headley was an informant for the DEA and FBI before he organized Mumbai terrorist attacks in India, all funded by your tax dime of course. see link for full story http://www.propublica.org/article/pakistans-terror-ties-at-center-of-upcoming-chicago-trial Pakistan’s Terror Ties at Center of Upcoming Chicago Trial by Sebastian Rotella ProPublica, May 4, 2011, 5:11 p.m. 0 Comments Republish E-mail Print Share It may be years, if ever, before the world learns whether Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI) helped hide Osama bin Laden. But detailed allegations of ISI involvement in terrorism will soon be made public in a federal courtroom in Chicago, where prosecutors last week quietly charged a suspected ISI major with helping to plot the murders of six Americans in the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Partner Some stories in this series appeared in the Washington Post. The indictment has explosive implications because Washington and Islamabad are struggling to preserve their fragile relationship. The ISI has long been suspected of secretly aiding terrorist groups while serving as a U.S. ally in the fight against terror. The discovery that bin Laden spent years in a fortress-like compound surrounded by military facilities in Abbottabad has heightened those suspicions and reinforced the accusations that the ISI was involved in the Mumbai attacks that killed 166 people. “It’s very, very troubling,” said Congressman Frank Wolf, R-Va., chairman of the House Appropriations sub-committee that oversees funding of the Justice Department. Wolf has closely followed the Mumbai case and wants an independent study group to review South Asia policy top-to-bottom. “Keep in mind that we’ve given billions of dollars to the Pakistani government,” he said. “In light of what’s taken place with bin Laden, the whole issue raises serious problems and questions.”  Three chiefs of Lashkar-i-Taiba, the Pakistani terrorist group, were also indicted in Chicago. They include Sajid Mir, a suspected Mumbai mastermind whose voice was caught on tape directing the three-day slaughter by phone from Pakistan. Mir, too, has links to the ISI. He remains at large along with the suspected ISI major and half-a-dozen other top suspects. Despite the unprecedented terrorism charges implicating a Pakistani officer, the Justice Department and other agencies did not issue press releases, hold a news conference or make any comments when the indictment was issued last week. The 33-page document names the suspect only as “Major Iqbal.” It does not mention the ISI, although Iqbal’s affiliation to the spy agency has been detailed in U.S. and Indian case files and by anti-terror officials in interviews with ProPublica over the past year.  “Obviously there has been a push to be low-key,” said an Obama Administration official who spoke in an interview last week and requested anonymity because of the pending trial. “There is a desire to make sure the handling of the case doesn’t mess up the relationship” with Pakistan.  The first public airing of the ISI’s alleged involvement in the Mumbai attack will begin on May 16 with the trial of Tahawwur Rana, owner of a Chicago immigration consulting firm. Rana was arrested in 2009 and charged with material support of terrorism in the same case in which the four suspects were indicted last week. The star witness will be David Coleman Headley, a Pakistani-American businessman-turned-militant who has pleaded guilty to scouting targets in India and Denmark. Rana allegedly helped Headley use his firm as a cover for reconnaissance. Rana’s attorney, Charles Swift, contends that Rana is not a terrorist because he thought he was assisting the ISI with an espionage operation. Swift said the U.S. indictment omits the ISI in hopes of mitigating tensions.  “The U.S. is attempting to walk a fine line between disclosure and non-disclosure,” Swift said. “What’s unusual is that the reason is to protect diplomatic relations... This indictment answers a few questions, but like everything else in this case, it raises even more.” Even before the bin Laden slaying, the Obama Administration had taken a tougher tone about the ISI’s alleged links to militants. But a U.S. official said this week that U.S. counter-terror agencies still think that any involvement in the Mumbai attacks was limited to rogue officers.  “No one is saying we can’t work with the ISI—people are just pointing out the problems that exist,” said the official, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. “I think the problems are largely with individual officers as opposed to the institution.”  Pakistani officials deny that the security forces were involved in Mumbai. A senior Pakistani official questioned the credibility of Headley, who was an informant for the Drug Enforcement Administration when he began training with Lashkar in 2002.
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Gang Stalking = COINTELPRO = STASI decomposition The FBI and all law enforcement agencies are currently using a psychological warfare protocol like "COINTELPRO" which is almost identical to the STASI "decomposition". This is what people are referring to as Gang Stalking. The earliest forms of this that I know of are from Egypt, Greece and Rome. Each of these societies had pervasive spy/informant networks that were spying on each other as well as looking for spies inside of their own empires. Anyone who did not feel that their own respective empire was the most perfect society could be considered a traitor. In other words they were looking for anyone who had thoughts beliefs and attitudes that were not approved of by the state that could instigate revolt or subversive activity or otherwise make them a danger to the empire. This obviously created a snitch culture and there were bound to be abuses. If a person was not liked by another then it was easy to persuade others to make a complaint and get that person killed or exiled. No one dare say or do anything that was politically incorrect and thus the rulers were able to maintain power and control over the people. Blatant execution or exile is common in an empire but in a democracy it is not as easy to accomplish these punishments so modern psychological operations were developed to accomplish these goals and in this way an empire can masquerade as a democracy. The STASI decomposition protocol is an excellent example of how these modern psychological operations work. The STASI decomposition is almost identical to the FBI’s COINTELPRO. Here is a link to a document that shows an overview of the STASI decomposition. · http://www.scribd.com/doc/71863415 · http://www.mediafire.com/?5w80dni99qc1c8w Law enforcement agencies in concert with government and corporations are using bribery, deception, coercion & blackmail to create an informant & saboteur network out of criminals of all kinds, extremist groups, cults, patriotic zealots, the poor, the homeless, friends, family, neighbors, repair men, fire men, police, military personnel and agents to target individuals and groups that have beliefs and attitudes (such as civil rights and animal rights.) that may cause them to commit acts of terrorism at some future time or motivate others to commit terrorist acts or incite revolt. This pre-crime approach has existed numerous times throughout American history but has reared its ugly head again due to 9/11. Unfortunately, according to former FBI agent Mike German, many post 9/11 targeted individuals are nothing more than a training exercise. · · http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO · · · · · Here is a lecture by Noam Chomsky that uncovers the root mindset in America that predicates the targeting of groups and individuals. · The real power behind gang stalking and many other terrible things is the minority of the opulent but the front group making all the policy changes these days is the neoconservatives. Neoconservatisim is a cult ideology that has been bankrolled and nurtured by the opulent just like all of the other cult ideologies created or co-opted by the opulent for their machinations. · http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century · http://www.newamericancentury.org/ · http://www.newamericancentury.org/lettersstatements.htm · http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm · http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm · http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Policy_Initiative · http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/ · http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/foreignpolicy2011 · http://www.abovetheswamp.com/articles/political-issues/74-the-neocon-mind Stalin and Hitler were fanatical leaders inspired by a gang mentality and by the concept of "historic mission." They believed that intolerance and large scale brutality were necessary ingredients of social order. Each of them was also supported by the “cult of personality.” The neocons are strikingly similar. What are the components of gang mentality? Reputation · Extreme concern with reputation both inside and outside of the ideology. Neocons are this way. Respect · Extreme concern with respect both inside and outside of the ideology. Neocons are this way. Retaliation · No challenge will go unanswered. It is so with the neocons as well. What is the concept of “historic mission”? In a well documented conversation, Adolf Hitler berated the Austrian Chancellor Schuschnigg and stated… "That is what you say!...But I am telling you that I am going to solve the so-called Austrian problem one way or the other...I have a historic mission, and this mission I will fulfill because Providence has destined me to do so...I have only to give an order and all your ridiculous defense mechanisms will be blown to bits. You don't seriously believe you can stop me or even delay me for half an hour, do you?" Prominent neocon Michael Ledeen stated… “Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our own society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity, which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace. Seeing America undo traditional societies, they fear us, for they do not wish to be undone. They cannot feel secure so long as we are there, for our very existence—our existence, not our politics—threatens their legitimacy. They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission.” What is the cult of personality? The cult of personality is explained pretty well here… · http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality The Straussian philosophy is a cult of personality and the neocons follow the Straussian philosophy · http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13145.htm If you select 1 percent of a population (Whistle blowers, dissidents, artists, those that look funny, and act or dress funny) and punish them severely for little or nothing, then you will gain the compliance of the other 99 percent either through fear or because they’ve been conned by the COINTELPRO/STASI type propaganda in to believing that the TI’s must be removed from society for the common good. Then you can implement the social, political and financial changes you want on a grand scale in a relatively short period of time. I.E. advance your historic mission. This has been done enumerable times throughout history. When the average person considers what the Nazis or Stalin did, they are naturally horrified. When a banker considers what the Nazis or Stalin did they have dollar signs in their eyes. MONEY is the real reason this is happening!!! The bankers know that a one world government is not possible. Empire building has been going on for centuries and a global empire has never been realized. But if you understand finance, history, politics and the military industrial complex, then it is clear to see that it is the EXERCISE of building empires and large scale wars that redistributes the wealth of nations into the hands of the banking elite and keeps the masses under control. Unfortunately most human beings don't understand how their own minds work nor are they well educated in multiple disciplines. Most of the people that perpetrate these crimes against humanity aren't fully aware that there is such a big conspiracy going on. It’s just that most human beings have so many inherent psychological weaknesses and such a deep lack of education that if you alter the socioeconomic landscape in just the right way, you get what you see here in America today. · · http://brainz.org/ten-most-revealing-psych-experiments/ Here are a few very credible documentaries that will help you to understand what’s really going on and hopefully survive… · http://metanoia-films.org/psywar/#watch · http://metanoia-films.org/human-resources/#watch · · · · One of the biggest mistakes people make when they become TI’s is to attempt to create a counter spy network against those that are surveilling them. This is something that the neocons and the banking elite are OK with. A global spy counter spy network is much like the cold war and the cold war was extremely profitable for the banking elite not to mention a powerful pretext to control people. The global war on terror needs a global terrorist network and since there really is not one, many targets will be manipulated into acting out in ways that can classify them as terrorists thus creating the impetus for law enforcement agencies to demand more tax payer money to fight the war on terror. Targets are all better off contacting a civil rights group and explaining that they have reason to believe they have been placed on the terrorist watch list. Do yourself a favor and learn as much about economics and finance as possible. It will help you survive. This is all the info you will need to be an educated investor. It’s not a get rich quick thing, just a solid economics and investing education. · http://www.mediafire.com/?f0ep3y537y6hlxy · http://www.mediafire.com/?7jyqc3yjoy78uqr · http://www.mediafire.com/?hrxa7ca24n7h0uk Also, listen to as many lectures by Professor Noam Chomsky as possible. They are all over the internet. He is brilliant and has been exposing the machinations of the opulent (Rothschild, Rockefeller etc) for decades. His research is very credible and will help you to separate the facts from the propaganda and give you a measure of mental clarity and peace. Utilizing his research will also help you gain some of your credibility back with others. Try to explain all of this to your friends and family. Usually when people see the mission statement of the neocons from their websites (PNAC & FPI) they start listening. According to anti-communist author Ludwik Kowalski “Mass murder occurs when brutal and sadistic criminals, to be found in every society, are promoted to positions of dominance, when propaganda is used to dehumanize the targeted population and when children are inoculated with intolerance and hatred. It occurs when victims ("inferior races" or "class enemies") are excluded from the norms of morality, when ideological totalitarianism is imposed and when freedom is suspended. Fear and violence, the preconditions of genocide, are likely to be found in societies with large numbers of thieves and informants.” Here is some info on how to take care of your physical health. · http://www.mediafire.com/?obd4zl5rrjbvwr1 Visit this YouTube channel and watch everything on it. You will gain a clear understanding of what’s really going on. · http://www.youtube.com/user/phrygian20
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British FBI' boss to direct forces see link for full story http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/british-fbi-boss-to-direct-forces-7793926.html Theo Usherwood , David Hughes Monday 28 May 2012 The boss at the so-called new British FBI will effectively become the most senior police officer in the country with the power to over-rule chief constables, the Government said today. 2nd read see link for full story http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=robert_s._mueller_iii Wall Street Journal regarding BCCI Banking Scandal coverup by FBI Director Mueller From an editorial regarding Mueller's nomination to head the FBI. The WSJ said "NO" to Mueller — Believe it or Not! EXCERPT... The BCCI scandal was the most important corruption story of the 20th century. Crooked international bankers cast a world-wide web of influence. They bought and sold politicians around the globe, ripped off depositors for some $10 billion, laundered drug money, worked with assorted spooks and trafficked with terrorists. In the U.S., they illegally bought a major Washington bank, First American, and installed Democratic Party icon Clark Clifford as its head. George H.W. Bush headed the CIA during BCCI's early days and was President when its wrongdoing first began to surface. Even George W. Bush bumped up against the outer fringes of the BCCI crowd during his tenure with Harken Energy and in his friendship with Texas entrepreneur James Bath. BCCI holds important lessons for the future. Our dawning century is one of international criminal gangs operating with increasing sophistication in a shadowy world beyond the control of fragmented national authorities. The banking and political systems are particularly vulnerable to this sort of corruption. BCCI is a prototype for this new form of global crime. As FBI Director, Mr. Freeh got a foothold on these problems; his successor will find them a major preoccupation. SNIP... Mr. Mueller also engaged in a running series of battles with the Manhattan District Attorney, Robert Morgenthau. According to news reports over the years, Justice prosecutors were instructed not to cooperate with Mr. Morgenthau's office, documents were withheld, and attempts were made to block other federal agencies from cooperating. In July 1992, both Mr. Mueller and Mr. Morgenthau simultaneously but separately indicted Mr. Clifford and his top aide Robert Altman in the BCCI scandal, with Mr. Morgenthau finally winning the right to try the men. Mr. Clifford was later dropped from the case due to infirmity and Mr. Altman was eventually acquitted. The curious and distracting fight over jurisdiction stands to be revisited. Robert S. Mueller III was a participant or observer in the following events: February 1988-December 1992: Justice Department Blocks Investigations into BCCI Edit event US Justice Department headquarters.US Justice Department headquarters. [Source: GlobeXplorer]Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) stumbles across the criminality of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) while investigating international drug trafficking as part of a congressional oversight committee. He soon starts a vigorous congressional investigation of BCCI, and New York district attorney Robert Morgenthau launches a vigorous investigation as well. [New York Times, 7/29/1991] However, Kerry’s and Morgenthau’s investigations are consistently stifled. Kerry will later say that, “with the key exception of the Federal Reserve, there was almost [no]… information or cooperation provided by other government agencies.” [US Congress, Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, 12/1992] Kerry will later conclude that the Justice Department in particular went to great lengths to block his and Morgenthau’s investigations “through a variety of mechanisms, ranging from not making witnesses available, to not returning phone calls, to claiming that every aspect of the case was under investigation in a period when little, if anything was being done.” After the Bank of England shuts down BCCI in July 1991 (see July 5, 1991), making big headlines, Under Assistant Attorney General Robert Mueller takes over Justice Department efforts on BCCI and assigns many new attorneys to the case. But Kerry will ultimately conclude that the indictments the Justice Department brings forth against BCCI after that time were narrower and less detailed than those of Morgenthau’s, and often seemed to be in response to what Morgenthau was doing. [US Congress, 12/1992] Kerry submits his report on BCCI in December 1992, and after that investigations into BCCI peter out. President Bush will appoint Mueller to be director of the FBI shortly before 9/11
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see link for full story http://www.consensus911.org/ Expert Panel Reports False Accounts of US Political and Military Leaders on 9/11 Massive National War Games on September 11th Raise Further Questions Consensus 911 - 2012-07-05 NEW YORK, June 5, 2012 -- New evidence shows that the September 11th activities of former President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld were falsely reported by official sources. The 20-member 9/11 Consensus Panel analyzed evidence from press reports, FOIA requests, and archived 9/11 Commission file documents to produce eight new studies, released today. The international Panel also discovered that four massive aerial practice exercises traditionally held in October were in full operation on 9/11. The largest, Global Guardian, held annually by NORAD and the US Strategic and Space Commands, had originally been scheduled for October 22-31 but was moved, along with Vigilant Guardian, to early September. Although senior officials claimed no one could have predicted using hijacked planes as weapons, the military had been practicing similar exercises on 9/11 itself -- and for years before it. The Panel, discovering widespread reports of confusion and delays in the defense response, looked into who was overseeing the air defenses after the second Tower was hit at 9:03 AM. Official sources claimed neither Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Joint Chiefs of Staff Acting Chairman General Richard Myers (filling in for General Hugh Shelton), nor war-room chief General Montague Winfield were available to take command until well after the Pentagon was struck about 9:37. Yet emerging documents and memoirs show that top leaders were engaged earlier -- and later discussed a shootdown of the “let's roll” Flight 93 before debris was scattered widely around its alleged Shanksville, Pennsylvania crash site. Most intriguing is the mystery of who was running the Pentagon's war-room during the critical early hours. These findings follow hard on the Kuala Lumpur Tribunal's May 15th verdict that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were guilty of torture and war crimes. The Consensus Panel has completed 25 educational studies (using a medical consensus model) offering the "best evidence" regarding specific official claims about 9/11. Its goal is to “provide a ready source of evidence-based research to any investigation that may be undertaken by the public, the media, academia, or any other investigative body or institution.” The website is being translated into French, Spanish, and other languages. Contact: E. Woodworth, 250-383-2417 Media contacts for US, Canada, Europe: http://www.consensus911.org/media-contacts/
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9/11 TIMELINE: Stand Down. Minute-by-minute chronology from 7:59 a.m. till 10:06:05 a.m by Mark Elsis see link for full timeline August 15, 2012 http://www.standdown.net/ Timeline: 9/11 Stand Down Exposing NORAD's "Wag the 911 Window Dressing Tale", using NORAD’s own Press Release and Fifth Grade Math by Mark Elsis, Lovearth.net http://www.StandDown.net May 2003. http://www.globalresearch.ca May 2003 The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ELS305A.html With a minute-by-minute chronology from 7:59 a.m. till 10:06:05 a.m., this article will dismantle the Wednesday September 18, 2001 North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) Press Release. This press release encompasses the (supposed) response times of the United States Air Force on Tuesday, September 11, 2001. This article will explain to you exactly what happened for the almost one hour and fifty-three minutes that elapsed between the time American Airlines Flight 11 lost voice contact with air traffic control and was hijacked at 8:13:31, till the time United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania at 10:06:05. NORAD Press Release: http://www.norad.mil/presrelNORADTimelines.htm AP Article On NORAD PR: http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net/8MinutesAway.htm Also, when reading this article, please keep in mind the following five very significant pieces of information. 1) The United States Government will spend more on the military in fiscal year 2003, than all the rest of the countries on Earth combined. Current expenditures are 437 billion and our past obligations are 339 billion, this equals 776 billion. 46% of our Taxes go to the Military Industrial Complex: http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm This figure doesn’t even begin to account for all of the off-budget, black projects, homeland security nor the 40+ billion the United States Government will spend on intelligence in 2003. 2) The United States Air Force (USAF) is the most technologically advanced, and the most dominate military force ever known to man. There were seven Air Stations that were armed and on full alert to protect the continental United States on Tuesday September 11, 2001. The Air National Guard exclusively performs the air sovereignty mission in the continental United States, and those units fall under the control of the 1st Air Force based at Tyndall Air Force Base (AFB) in Panama City, Florida. The Air National Guard maintains seven alert sites with 14 fully armed fighters and pilots on call around the clock. Besides Tyndall AFB, alert birds also sit armed and ready at; Homestead Air Reserve Base (ARB), Homestead, Florida; Langley AFB, Hampton, Virginia; Otis Air National Guard (ANG), Falmouth, Massachusetts; Oregon ANG, Portland, Oregon; March ARB, Riverside, CA; and Ellington ANG, Houston, Texas. http://www.af.mil/news/airman/1299/home2.htm There were at least 28 other USAF bases that were in range of the 4 airliners on 911. The following link lists the 7 bases on full alert and the 28 that were within range. http://www.StandDown.net/USAFbases.htm 3) New York City and Washington D.C. are far and away the top two cities in the United States that would be targeted by terrorists. 4) NORAD is a binational United States and Canadian organization charged with warning of attack against North America whether by aircraft, missiles, or space vehicles, utilizing mutual support arrangements with other commands. Aerospace control includes providing surveillance and control of Canadian and United States airspace. The job of NORAD is to know every inch of the skies over North America. 5) Almost one hundred and thirteen minutes elapsed between the time American Airlines Flight 11 lost contact and was hijacked at 8:13:31 till the time United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania at 10:06:05. One hour and fifty-three minutes went by and the USAF did not intercept any one of these four "hijacked" airlines. To understand all the rules, regulation and procedures that make this totally impossible to happen, please read: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Standard Intercept Procedures http://www.StandDown.net/FAAStandardInterceptProcedures.htm Stand Down 1. To end a state of readiness or alert. 2. To go off duty. 3. To withdraw, as from a political contest. Many sources for Stand Down are from the 600 articles on: http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net For Audios, Photographs and Videos of September 11, 2001: http://www.9112001.net For The Most Comprehensive Timeline On 911 http://www.911Timeline.net All times are Eastern Daylight Time. 7:59 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 a Boeing 767-223ER with a maximum capacity of 181 passengers and 23,980 gallons of fuel, lifts off from Logan International Airport in Boston, Massachusetts, bound for Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles, California. Take-off was scheduled for 7:45. There are supposed to be 92 victims on board American Airlines Flight 11, yet when you add up the official death manifest list that was published on CNN.com, there are only 86 victims. The same goes for the other three flights of 911. Add up the passenger and crew lists from all 4 flights of 911 and you have officially 265 people on board. Yet when one adds up the 4 official death manifest lists published on CNN.com, there are only 229 names. Somehow 36 people are missing from the 4 CNN.com official death manifest lists, including all 19 of the hijackers. Why? Go to: http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net -- Click on Evidence -- Scroll down till you see: AA11 Passenger List, UA 175 Passenger List, AA 77 Passenger List and UA 93 Passenger List. Click on any of these four links and count the number of passengers listed for yourself. The 4 airliners used on September 11th, 2 Boeing 767’s and 2 Boeing 757’s had a total passenger seating capacity of 762 people. How could these four flights possibly be only between 30.1% (229 passengers and crew) to 34.7% (265 passengers and crew) occupied? How could all four of these flights added together possibly be more than 65% empty? Boeing 767 Seating Charts: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/pf/pf_seating_charts.html Boeing 757 Seating Charts: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/pf/pf_seating_charts.html 8:01 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 a Boeing 757-222 with a maximum capacity of 200 passengers and 11,489 gallons of fuel, rolls from the gate in Newark International Airport, Newark, New Jersey with 44 people aboard bound for San Francisco International Airport, San Francisco, California. United Airlines Flight 93 will sit on the ground for 41 minutes before taking off. There are supposed to be 44 victims on board, yet when you add up the official death manifest list that was published on CNN.com, there are only 33 victims. 8:13:31 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 last transmission from Boston Air Traffic Control: AAL11 turn 20 degrees right American Airlines Flight 11 responds: 20 right AAL11. A few seconds later the Controller asks: AAL11 now climb maintain FL350 [35,000 feet] Controller: AAL11 climb maintain FL350 Controller: AAL11 Boston. There is no response from American Airlines Flight 11. 8:14 to 8:20 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 goes off course and is hijacked. 8:14 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 175 a Boeing 767-222 with a maximum capacity of 181 passengers and 23,980 gallons of fuel, lifts off from Logan International Airport in Boston, Massachusetts, bound for Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles, California. Take-off was scheduled for 7:58. There are supposed to be 65 victims on board, yet when you add up the official death manifest list that was published on CNN.com, there are only 56 victims. 8:17 a.m.: After 3 minutes and 30 seconds of lost voice contact with American Airlines Flight 11, the FAA should have started to implemented Standard Intercept Procedures. http://www.StandDown.net/FAAStandardInterceptProcedures.htm 8:20 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 transponder signal stops transmitting Identification, Friend or Foe (IFF) beacon signal. If a pilot loses their transponder the air traffic controllers (ATC) console immediately alerts him to this fact since he no longer has the transponder code and altitude. This causes the controllers a great deal of trouble, especially in the busiest airspace on earth, the northeastern corridor. After 6 minutes and 30 seconds of lost voice contact, and now with the transponder signal stopped on American Airlines Flight 11, there is no excuse left, the FAA should have started to implement Standard Intercept Procedures. They did for the late great golfer Payne Stewart, after only a few minutes of lost voice contact from his Lear jet. Why not now? Or did the FAA implement Standard Intercept Procedures and tell NORAD between 8:14 to 8:20? Did NORAD then sit on (Stand Down) this information for 26 to 32 minutes – till they finally tell 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts to scramble at 8:46? Somewhere between 8:13:31 and 8:20 American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked, and by 8:20 its transponder also is turned off, and NORAD doesn’t order Otis to scramble till 8:46. 8:20 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 a Boeing 757-223 with a maximum capacity of 200 passengers and 11,489 gallons of fuel, lifts off from Dulles International Airport about 30 miles west of Washington D.C. and the Pentagon, bound for Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles, California. Take-off was scheduled for 8:01. There are supposed to be 64 victims on board, yet when you add up the official death manifest list that was published on CNN.com, there are only 56 victims. 8:24:38 a.m.: The pilot of American Airlines Flight 11, John Ogonowski, or one of the hijackers activates the talk-back button, enabling Boston ATC to hear a hijacker say to the passengers: "We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you will be OK. We are returning to the airport. Nobody move." Apparently, one of the hijackers confused the aircraft's radio with its public-address system. Air traffic control responds, "Who's trying to call me?" 8:25 a.m.: Boston ATC notified several air traffic control centers that a hijack is in progress with American Airlines Flight 11. Boston air traffic control first lost communication with American Airlines Flight 11 more than 11 minutes ago. What took them so long to start to implement procedure? Why didn’t they also notify North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) at this time? Or did they? If they did follow procedure and notify NORAD at 8:25 and NORAD followed protocol and ordered the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts to scramble at say 8:26 – two F-15’s would have been airborne by no later than 8:32 – these F-15’s would have had at least 14 minutes and 26 seconds to reach the WTC before American Airlines Flight 11 impacts the north side of the North Tower (1 World Trade Center) at 8:46:26. If these two F-15’s were flying at top speed, 14 minutes and 26 seconds is exactly twice the amount of time needed to reach the WTC. These two F-15’s could have been at the WTC in just over 7 minutes, or as early as 8:39. Even a spokesperson for Otis said that their F-15’s could reach the WTC in 10 to 12 minutes, which would have them there at 8:42 to 8:44. These two F-15’s could have easily intercepted American Airlines Flight 11. If only Boston ATC, which notified several air traffic control centers that a hijack is in progress with American Airlines Flight 11 at 8:25, had also notified NORAD. Why didn’t they? Or did they follow procedure, and notify NORAD, and NORAD is lying about it. Let me state that it is NORAD’s job to know every inch of the skies over North America, so they must have known that American Airlines Flight 11 was hijacked somewhere between 8:14 and 8:20. 8:26 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 is heading westnorthwest, its location is between Albany and Lake George, New York, when it suddenly makes a 100 degree turn to the south and starts heading directly toward New York City. American Airlines Flight 11 finds the Hudson River and follows it all the way south till it impacts the north side of the North Tower of the WTC. Almost 40 miles north of the WTC on the Hudson River is by far the number one terrorist target in the United States, Indian Point and its 3 nuclear power stations, 2 of which are online. These 3 nuclear stations have accumulated 65 years worth of stockpiled highly radioactive waste. Indian Point is only 24 miles north of the New York City border. It is surrounded by the densest concentration of population in the United States, the northeast corridor. Why did American Airlines Flight 11 fly directly over the number one terrorist target in the United States, Indian Point nuclear power stations, and not hit it? (read more about this at 8:39 a.m.) 8:33:59 a.m.: Another transmission from American Airlines Flight 11, "Nobody move please. We are going back to the airport. Don't try to make any stupid moves." 8:36 a.m.: A NORAD spokesman, Major Mike Snyder, has been reported to have said, that the FAA notified NORAD of a hijacked aircraft, American Airlines Flight 11, about 10 minutes before it impacted into the World Trade Center. 8:37 a.m.: Flight controllers ask the United Airlines Flight 175 pilots to look for the lost American Airlines Flight 11, about 10 miles to the south. They respond that they can see it. They are told to keep away from it. This incident is not included in The New York Times flight controller transcript. Why? 8:38 a.m.: Boston ATC notifies NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked. 8:39 a.m. American Airlines Flight 11 flies directly over the number one terrorist target in the United States, Indian Point nuclear power stations. Indian Point has 3 nuclear power stations (1 is offline and the other 2 have been online since 1973 and 1976), which are only 24 miles north of New York City (and about 40 miles north of the WTC). If American Airlines Flight 11 hits Indian Point correctly in any of three different ways, they could have caused a meltdown and a release of vast amounts of radiation. There are also a cumulative 65 operating years worth of highly radioactive waste stored at Indian Point. Casualties could possibly be upwards of 20 million people prematurely dieing from radiation poisoning. The whole northeast corridor from New York City to Boston would instantly become a wasteland for thousands of years. Why did American Airlines Flight 11 jeopardize their mission by flying another 7 plus minutes (when they could and should have been intercepted by the USAF) down the Hudson River to hit the WTC between the 94th and 98th floors where they ended up "only" killing less than half of the 3,056 people that died, when they could have hit their enemies’ number one target? The mastermind behind these "terrorists" hijackers would have soon figured out their best and only shot against the strongest military foe in the world would have been to hit them first and hit them as hard as you can. Why didn't they hit Indian Point? If the terrorists were targeting the WTC, don't you think they would have waited until around 11:00 when these buildings were full with 50,000 plus people? And of course, to cause the most deaths and destruction isn't it elementary to strike these buildings as low as possible, which would have been around the 30th floor? So, why did this well planned "terrorist" attack kill only 3,056 people when they could have easily killed ten times that many? This reasoning also goes along with the Pentagon attack. Why was the Pentagon hit on the so-called "peaceful" west side, which was mostly under construction as opposed to the command center east side of the Pentagon? If one plane didn't do the job at Indian Point, two planes most definitely would have done the job. United Airlines Flight 175 also flew very close to Indian Point; it was literally within a couple of minutes flying time. If two planes didn’t do the job (one should and two will), a third plane, United Airlines Flight 93 a Boeing 757-222 will lift off in 3 minutes from Newark International Airport in Newark, New Jersey bound for San Francisco International Airport, San Francisco, California. Newark International Airport is within 10 minutes flying time of Indian Point. So three of these airliners could have hit Indian Point within about 13 minutes of each other, between 8:39 and 8:52, if they had wanted to. The whole northeast corridor from New York City to Boston would instantly become a wasteland for thousands of years. Jet [757 / 767] Could Wreck Three Mile Island, Nuclear Regulatory Commission Admits http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net/JetCouldWreckNuclearNRCAdmits.htm 8:40 a.m. Nasty and Duff are the code names of the two F-15 pilots from the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts who would scramble after United Airlines Flight 175. Nasty says that at this time, a colleague tells him that a flight out of Boston has been hijacked, and to be on alert. They put on their flight gear and get ready. 8:40 a.m.: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) notifies NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked. Even NORAD officially admitted that the FAA told them about the hijacking of American Airlines Flight 11 at 8:40. As mentioned earlier, American Airlines Flight 11 lost voice contact with ATC at 8:13:31 – so for 26 minutes and 29 seconds nothing has been done. American Airlines Flight 11 lost its transponder at 8:20 – so for 20 minutes nothing has been done. This doesn’t happen. OK, the FAA notifies NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked – what does NORAD do? Do they immediately scramble the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts? No they don’t, they sit on this most vital information. Stand Down. At 8:46 a.m. you will see what NORAD finally does with this critically vital information. NORAD Press Release: http://www.norad.mil/presrelNORADTimelines.htm AP Article On NORAD PR: http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net/8MinutesAway.htm 8:41:32 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 175 last communication with the New York ATC: We figured we'd wait to go to your center. We heard a suspicious transmission on our departure from BOS [Boston] sounds like someone keyed the mike and said everyone stay in your seats. 8:42 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 a Boeing 757-222 with a maximum capacity of 200 passengers and 11,489 gallons of fuel, lifts off from Newark International Airport in Newark, New Jersey bound for San Francisco International Airport, San Francisco, California. Take-off was scheduled for 8:01. There are supposed to be 44 victims on board, yet when you add up the official death manifest list that was published on CNN.com, there are only 33 victims. 8:42 a.m.: An air traffic controller says of United Airlines Flight 175, looks like he's heading southbound but there's no transponder no nothing and no one's talking to him. 8:43 a.m.: The FAA notifies NORAD that United Airlines Flight 175 has been hijacked. NORAD has officially admitted that the FAA told them about the hijacking of United Airlines Flight 175 at 8:43. So, now NORAD knows about two hijackings – and American Airlines Flight 11 has been barreling down on New York City since turning south at 8:26, and is just 3 minutes away from impacting the WTC. What does NORAD do with this new information? Do they immediately scramble the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts? Again, no they don’t, they sit on this most vital information of now two hijacked airliners. Stand Down. 8:46 a.m.: NORAD orders the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts to scramble two of their F-15 fighters. This is from the 102nd Fighter Wing's mission statement of September 11, 2001. "Our aircraft and their crews are on continuous 24-hour, 365-day alert to guard our skies. The 102nd Fighter Wing's area of responsibility includes over 500,000 square miles, 90 million people, and the major industrial centers of Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C." NORAD, by their own account, held on to the most vital information of American Airlines Flight 11 hijacking for at least 6 minutes before ordering Otis to scramble. NORAD, by their own account, held on to the most vital information of United Airlines Flight 175 hijacking for at least 3 minutes before ordering Otis to scramble. NORAD may have held on to the vital information of American Airlines Flight 11 for perhaps 8 minutes, maybe 10 minutes (see 8:36 a.m. statement by NORAD spokesman, Major Mike Snyder), possibly up to 26 minutes (see 8:20 a.m. American Airlines Flight 11 transponder signal stopped transmitting its IFF beacon signal) and let us not forget that the last voice transmission of American Airlines Flight 11 with Boston air traffic control occurred at 8:13:31, so maybe NORAD had over 32 minutes before they notified Otis to scramble their two F-15’s. How could NORAD possibly hold on to the 8:40 information of the American Airlines Flight 11 hijacking, and not immediately scrambled Otis? How could NORAD possibly hold on to the 8:43 information of the United Airlines Flight 175 hijacking, and not have immediately scrambled Otis? How could NORAD, by their own account, hold on to the most vital information of both of these hijackings for three and six full minutes, before notifying Otis to scramble? Stand Down. Knowing that New York City and Washington D.C. are far and away the top two cities in the United States that would be targeted by terrorists, don’t you think we would have also ordered Langley AFB to scramble at 8:46 a.m. to protect Washington D.C.? NORAD says they actually waited till 9:24 a.m. to order Langley AFB to scramble. Thirty-eight minutes went by before anyone bothers to order fighters to scramble to protect Washington D.C.? No way. This is the big time Smoking Gun Stand Down. NORAD Press Release: http://www.norad.mil/presrelNORADTimelines.htm AP Article On NORAD PR: http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net/8MinutesAway.htm 8:46:26 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 impacts the north side of the North Tower (1 World Trade Center) of the WTC between the 94th and 98th floors. American Airlines Flight 11 was flying at a speed of 490 miles per hour (MPH). When American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower, "it set up vibrations which were transmitted through the building, through its foundation, and into the ground," says Lerner-Lam. Those vibrations, as indicated by seismographs at Lamont-Doherty and other locations, were the equivalent of a magnitude 0.9 earthquake, one too small to be felt. 8:46 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 175 transponder signal stops transmitting IFF beacon signal. 8:47 a.m.: The FAA informed NORAD of American Airlines Flight 11 striking the World Trade Center. NORAD says it doesn’t tell the two F-15 pilots now scrambling to take-off from Otis that American Airlines Flight 11 has hit the WTC until 8:57. Why not? Especially when there is another hijacked airliner, United Airlines Flight 175, so close to New York City -- and at 8:49 it turns and heads straight on for New York City? 8:47 a.m.: NYC Fire Battalion Chief Joe Pfeiffer from the 7th Battalion puts out an emergency call stating that American Airlines Flight 11 impacting the north side of the North Tower (1 World Trade Center) was no accident. The plane's impact was clearly a deliberate attack an intentional act of mass death and devastation. As the small video crew (who shot the only video of American Airlines Flight 11 impacting the WTC – the fireman video) and firemen that had eye-witnessed the first plane hit the WTC were racing to the location, Chief Pfeiffer sounded red alerts over the radio and phone; specifically stating that what they witnessed was a "direct attack" and that the airliner was clearly being directed straight at the WTC and the incident was definitely not any kind of accident. 8:48 a.m.: The first news reports appear on TV and radio that a plane may have crashed into the WTC. 8:49 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 175 now deviates from its assigned flight path. 8:50:51 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 last radio communication, about 285 miles west of the Pentagon. 8:52 a.m.: Two F-15 Eagles have scrambled and are airborne from the 102nd Fighter Wing of Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts. An F-15 has a top speed of 1875+ MPH. Otis is 153 miles (according to The New York Times) eastnortheast of the WTC. They are airborne within 6 minutes of their 8:46 scramble orders. Good job. So, 38 minutes after American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked we finally have fighters in the air. But they still don’t know American Airlines Flight 11 has crashed into the WTC or that United Airlines Flight 175 has turned and has been heading straight toward New York City now for 3 minutes. Why not? Stand Down. 8:53 a.m.: A flight controller says to other airplanes in the sky about United Airlines Flight 175, "We may have a hijack. We have some problems over here right now." 8:55 a.m.: Barbara Olson, a passenger on American Airlines Flight 77, calls her husband, Solicitor General Theodore Olson at the Justice Department. He is watching the WTC news on TV. She tells him, ''they had box cutters and knives. They rounded up the passengers at the back of the plane.'' She asks him, "What should I tell the pilot to do?" She gets cuts off; he calls the Justice Department's command center to alert them of the hijacking. She calls back and says the plane is turning around. She appears to have been the only person on American Airlines Flight 77 to call someone on the ground. Why is she the only person who calls from American Airlines Flight 77? 8:56 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 transponder signal stops. 8:56 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 goes off course and starts making a 180 degree turn over southern Ohio / northeastern Kentucky. 8:57 a.m. The FAA formally notified the military that American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into the WTC. Until then, the two F-15’s fighters from Otis did not know the plane had crashed -- Yet at 8:47 a.m. NORAD had been notified. Why does it take over 10 minutes to inform the two F-15 pilots of this? Do the two F-15 pilots know United Airlines Flight 175 has changed course, and for the last eight minutes has been heading directly for New York City? Stand Down. 8:59 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 completes its 180 degree turn over southern Ohio / northeastern Kentucky and starts heading directly back to Washington D.C. and The Pentagon, 330 miles away. 9:00 a.m.: United Airlines systems operations transmitted a system wide message, warning its pilots of a potential "cockpit intrusion". United Airlines Flight 93, flying over Pennsylvania replies "Confirmed". 9:00 a.m.: Last radar reading on United Airlines Flight 175 is observed at an altitude of 18,000 feet, descending, with a ground speed of 480 knots. 9:00 a.m. The FAA starts contacting all airliners to warn them of the hijacking. 9:00 a.m.: The Pentagon moves its alert status up one notch from normal to Alpha. It stays on Alpha until after American Airlines Flight 77 hits the Pentagon. 9:01 a.m.: Bush later makes the following statement. "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I used to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one terrible pilot.' And I said, 'It must have been a horrible accident.' But I was whisked off from there -- I didn't have much time to think about it." Bush could not have possibly seen the first plane (American Airlines Flight 11) hit the WTC, because the only video showing this was not shown on television till later in the day. So how could he have possibly seen and said this? 9:02:54 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 175 impacts the south side of the South Tower of the WTC between the 78th and 84th floors at a speed of over 500 MPH. Parts of the plane including an engine leave the building from its north side, to be found on the ground up to six blocks away. When United Airlines Flight 175 struck the South Tower, "it set up vibrations which were transmitted through the building, through its foundation, and into the ground," says Lerner-Lam. Those vibrations, as indicated by seismographs at Lamont-Doherty and other locations, were the equivalent of a magnitude 0.7 earthquake. NORAD says that when United Airlines Flight 175 impacts the WTC at 9:02:54, the two F-15's from Otis are still 71 miles away. This means their average flight speed was only 23.9% of their top speed in trying to intercept United Airlines Flight 175. Otis is 153 miles from WTC. F-15's have a top speed of 1875+ MPH. Minus 71 miles left from 153 miles equals 82 miles covered in the 11 minutes from 8:52 take-off to 9:03. Sixty minutes divided by 11 minutes equals 5.45, times this by the 82 miles covered, equals 447.3 MPH. divided by 1875 MPH equals 23.9% of their top speed. How could these two F-15’s possibly be going less than one quarter of their top speed in trying to intercept United Airlines Flight 175? How? Stand Down. The following passages are from a BBC article published on August 30, 2002. Two of the pilots patrolling northeast America told the programme how they struggled to get to New York as fast as possible after the first plane had hit the World Trade Center. Pilots "Duff" and "Nasty" recalled they were only minutes away when the second plane hit the towers. Pilot Duff said: "For a long time I wondered what would have happened if we had been scrambled in time. "We've been over the flight a thousand times in our minds and I don't know what we could have done to get there any quicker." Perhaps if they flew a little faster than 23.9% of their top speed is how. US Considered 'Suicide Jet Missions' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2222205.stm The F-15 pilots flew ''like a scalded ape,'' topping 500 MPH but were unable to catch up to the airliner [United Airliners Flight 175], Maj. Gen. Paul Weaver said. National Guard Fighters Raced After 2 Airliners http://www.staugustine.com/stories/091601/ter_0916010027.shtml Now the only airliner left in the sky with its IFF transponder signal off -- has just made a 180 degree turn over southern Ohio / northeastern Kentucky and has been heading directly back to Washington D.C. and The Pentagon since 8:59 a.m. -- is American Airlines Flight 77. Why didn’t these two F-15’s that were 71 miles from NYC and the WTC, immediately redirect to intercept the only dangerous airliner now in the sky, American Airlines Flight 77? These two F-15’s had 34 minutes to reach Washington D.C. before American Airlines Flight 77 hits the Pentagon at 9:37 a.m. The mission of these two F-15’s from the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base is to protect the skies from Washington D.C. to the north. The F-15 has a top speed of 1875+ MPH, so they could have closed the 300 or so miles from their current position to Washington D.C. in just about 11 minutes. At top speed they could have been at the Pentagon 23 minutes before American Airlines Flight 77 hits it. Even if they were flying at the same speed NORAD says that they covered in the last 71 miles till they reach the WTC (532.5 MPH or only 28.4% of top speed) they would have beaten American Airlines Flight 77 to the Pentagon. Why didn’t these two F-15’s directly fly to intercept the only known airliner still in the sky that is hijacked, and heading directly for the nations capitol? Still, much worse, why didn’t these two F-15’s upon reaching the WTC at 9:11 and now knowing that American Airlines Flight 77 has been heading dead on for Washington D.C. for 12 minutes, finally try to intercept? The WTC is about 250 miles from the Pentagon. They still have 26 minutes to intercept American Airlines Flight 77 before the Pentagon gets hit at 9:37. All they have to do is to fly only 576.9 MPH or 30.8% of their top speed to beat American Airlines Flight 77 to the Pentagon. What do we pay these guys to do? Still, unbelievably worse, these two F-15’s could have waited in New York City till 9:26 before heading down to protect Washington D.C. and the Pentagon. By 9:26 American Airlines Flight 77 has now been heading directly back to Washington D.C. for 27 minutes, it is the only airliner in the sky with its transponder signal off, and has been off course for 30 minutes. If these F-15’s were flying at top speed, they could be at the Pentagon in less than 10 minutes. They can leave New York City at 9:26 and still beat American Airlines Flight 77 to the Pentagon by one minute. Why didn’t these F-15’s leave at any time between 9:03 and 9:26 to intercept American Airlines Flight 77, the only airliner in the sky with its transponder signal off, and also off course and heading straight do Washington D.C.? Why, NORAD? Stand Down. NORAD Press Release: http://www.norad.mil/presrelNORADTimelines.htm AP Article On NORAD PR: http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net/8MinutesAway.htm There is a very interesting video of what looks like a possible F-15 streaking by the WTC just as United Airlines Flight 175 impacts the South Tower of the WTC. Why isn’t anyone talking about this video? Take a look for yourself at: http://www.MyCountryRightOrWrong.net/F-15.htm 9:03 a.m.: Boston air traffic control center halts traffic from its airports to all New York area airspace. 9:05 a.m.: Andrew Card walks up to Bush while he is listening to a Goat Story with 16 second graders in Sandra Kay Daniels’s class at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida. Card whispers in his ear "A second plane has hit the World Trade Center. America is under attack." Bush (commander-and-chief?) keeps listening to this Goat Story with these children for at least 7 minutes, and perhaps as long as 18 minutes. Why he didn't excuse himself from these children right away, and immediately address this national emergency, is totally illogical and unexplainable. There is no way this should have happened. What of course should have happened, was as soon as the secret service found out about United Airlines Flight 175 impacting the WTC (now knowing it was a "terrorist" act), they would have immediatly grabbed Bush and brought him to an undisclosed location. There is no way the secret service leaves Bush in a place (Emma E. Booker Elementary School) where everyone knows he is. Stand Down. 9:05 a.m.: West Virginia flight control notices a new eastbound plane entering their radar with no radio contact and no transponder identification. They are not sure if it is American Airlines Flight 77. Supposedly they wait another 19 minutes before notifying NORAD about it. Why hasn’t NORAD scrambled any fighters to protect Washington D.C. by 9:05? How could they not have? Two airliners have already hit the WTC. Nine minutes ago the transponder on American Airlines Flight 77 was shut off and it made a 180 degree turn and has been heading directly for Washington D.C. for 6 minutes. Perhaps now would be a good time to remember that New York City and Washington D.C. are far and away the top two cities in the United States that would be targeted by terrorists. Why hasn’t NORAD scrambled any fighters to protect Washington D.C. by 9:05? Stand Down. 9:06 a.m.: Order to halt traffic is expanded to include the entire northeast from Washington to Cleveland. FAA's air traffic control center outside Washington D.C. notifies all air traffic facilities nationwide of the suspected hijacking of American Airlines Flight 11. 9:06 a.m.: The FAA formally notified the military that United Airlines Flight 175 had been hijacked. 9:08 a.m.: FAA orders all aircraft to leave New York area airspace and orders all New York-bound planes nationwide to stay on the ground. 9:10 a.m. to 9:20 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 was hijacked. 9:11 a.m.: The two F-15 Eagles from Otis Air National Guard station in Falmouth; Massachusetts finally make it to NYC and the WTC. So, it takes these two F-15’s, which have a top speed of 1875+ MPH, 19 minutes to cover the 153 miles from Otis to the WTC. This means their average flight speed from Otis to the WTC was only 483.2 MPH or just 25.8% of their top speed. A little math exposes these window dressing fighters for what they are. Thank you NORAD for your September 18, 20001 Press Release. Stand Down. 9:12 a.m.: The FAA formally notified the military that United Airlines Flight 175 had crashed into the WTC. 9:15 a.m.: American Airlines orders no new takeoffs in the United States. 9:16 a.m. to 9:20: The FAA notifies NORAD that United Airlines Flight 93 has been hijacked. (Reported as 9:20 a.m. in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette) No fighters are scrambled in specific response, now or later. There is the possibility the fighters sent after American Airlines Flight 77 later headed towards United Airlines Flight 93. NORAD's own timeline inexplicably fails to say when the FAA told them about the hijack. This is the only flight NORAD fails to provide this data for. Why? Stand Down. 9:17 a.m.: The FAA shuts down all New York City area airports. 9:20 a.m.: United Airlines orders no new takeoffs in the United States. 9:21 a.m.: New York City Port Authority orders all bridges and tunnels in the New York City area closed. 9:22 a.m.: A sonic boom occurs, which was picked up by an earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles away from Shanksville. This was most likely caused by a fighter jet breaking the sound barrier. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682 9:23 a.m.: Bush talks privately with Cheney, his National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, the head of the FBI, Robert Mueller and Governor George Pataki of New York. Why does Bush wait from 9:05 (when Card tells him of United Airlines Flight 175 hitting the WTC) till 9:23 to finally call? He still does not give the authority to the fighters to shoot down any hostile airliners (fighters do not need his OK to intercept – that should have of course happen automatically [but didn’t -- or it was IGNORAD ] – his orders are only needed to shoot down a commercial airliner). What is he waiting for? 9:24 a.m.: The FAA notifies NORAD that American Airlines Flight 77 has been hijacked. The FAA lost contact with American Airlines Flight 77 when the transponder signal stops at 8:56 a.m. -- Why does it take 28 minutes for the FAA to tell NORAD that American Airlines Flight 77 has been hijacked? Impossible. Stand Down. 9:24 a.m.: NORAD orders the 1st Fighter Wing from Langley Air Force Base in Hampton, Virginia to scramble two, possibly three F-16 fighters. This time NORAD does not sit on this vital information for six minutes (or more) before notifying Langley AFB (like they did before they scrambled Otis). Langley is 130 miles south of Washington D.C. and the Pentagon. The F-16 has a top speed of 1500 MPH. Why wasn’t Langley AFB scrambled at 8:20 or 8:40 or 8:46:26 or at the very least at 9:02:54? How could NORAD possibly have waited the 21 minutes from the time United Airlines Flight 175 hits the South Tower of the WTC at 9:02:54 before finally scrambling Langley at 9:24? Waiting these 21 extra minutes to finally scramble Langley is the real smoking gun Stand Down that no one can get around. Inconceivably, Andrews Air Force Base, with its two fighters wings only about 11 miles from the Pentagon never got off the ground, till after everything was over. They must have been told to Stand Down. This Stand Down that happened at Andrews AFB is the same thing that happened with the at least 35 Air Stations that were easily within distance to protect us of all of these hijackings. They were all told to Stand Down. The following link lists the 7 bases on full alert and the 28 that were within range. http://www.StandDown.net/USAFbases.htm 9:25 a.m.: Air traffic controllers inform the United States Secret Service that American Airlines Flight 77 is approaching Washington D.C. 9:26 a.m.: The FAA halts takeoffs nationwide. All airborne international flights are told to land in Canada. 9:26 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 - Passenger, Barbara K. Olson again calls her husband, Solicitor General Theodore Olson at the Justice Department to tell him about the hijacking and to report that the passengers and pilots were held in the back of the plane. Again she is the only person who makes a call from American Airlines Flight 77. Isn’t it very strange that is she the only person to call, not once but twice? 9:28 a.m. United Airlines Flight 93 -- An open microphone aboard reveals someone in the cockpit saying, "Get out of here!" 9:28 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93, "there are the first audible signs of problems, in background cockpit noise." Air traffic controllers hear the sound of screaming and scuffling over an open mike. They then hear hijackers speaking in Arabic to each other. Yet this is at least 8 minutes and maybe 12 minutes after the hijackers had taken over the cockpit and done something to cause the FAA to notify NORAD of United Airlines Flight 93's hijacking. 9:30 a.m.: Two, possibly three F-16 Fighting Falcons code-named Huntress take off from Langley AFB headed at first toward at NYC. A couple of minutes into their mission, according to General Haugen "A person came on the radio and identified themselves as being with the Secret Service" and said, "I want you to protect the White House at all costs." The F-16’s laid in a new course and vectored to Washington D.C. Since both Washington D.C. and New York City are both north of Langley, and this happened within a couple of minutes of take-off, this was not a factor in why these F-16 fighters were flying so slow. Why were these fighters headed to NYC when American Airlines Flight 77 has been headed directly for Washington D.C. for the last 31 minutes, and with their communication and transponder turned off for 34 minutes? There are no airliners headed for NYC or anywhere else with their communication and transponders turned off. Also, at 9:25 air traffic controllers have already informed the United States Secret Service in Washington D.C. that American Airlines Flight 77 is approaching them very fast. So why are these F-16’s first flying toward NYC? Stand Down. 9:30 a m.: Bush, speaking to the nation from Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida, says the country has suffered an "apparent terrorist attack" and "a national tragedy." He would chase down, "those folks who committed this act." Bush also said, "Terrorism against our nation will not stand." It was an echo of "This will not stand," the words his father, George H. W. Bush, had used a few days after Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990-in Bush's opinion, one of his father's finest moments. Also, during this address to the country Bush promised a full investigation into the attack. Well here we are 16 months later, after everything Bush could possibly do to stop an investigation, and we are finally getting a so-called 911 investigation. That Henry Kissinger and George Mitchell quit as chair and vice chair is very interesting. Of course, having appointed killer Kissinger to lead the 911 investigation in the first place was like saying, welcome to the Twilight Zone. Did Kissinger quit because some of his clients were about to be exposed and tried by him? A little conflict of interest Henry? This address to the country should have been said at least 15 to 20 minutes earlier. But of course he had much more important business to attend to, he was listening to the Goat Story with the 16 second graders from 9:05 till at least 9:12 and possibly as long as 9:23. Bush speaking to the country from Emma E. Booker Elementary School. http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net/BushAtEmmaEBookerSchool.mov 85) 9:30 a.m.: United Airlines begins landing all of its flights inside the United States. 9:32 a.m.: Secret Service agents burst into Cheney's White House office. They carry him under his arms -- nearly lifting him off the ground -- and take him to the security of the underground bunker in the White House basement. What took them so long? 9:32 a.m.: The New York Stock Exchange closed. 9:33 a.m.: According to The New York Times, American Airlines Flight 77 was lost at 8:56 when it turned off its transponder, and stayed lost until now. Washington air traffic control sees a fast moving blip on their radar at this time and sends a warning to Dulles Airport in Washington. Is it conceivable that an airplane could be lost inside United States air space for 37 minutes? Stand Down. 9:35 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 goes off course near Cleveland, Ohio where it makes a 135 degree turn, and is now headed to the southeast. United Airlines Flight 93 is 375 miles from Newark, New Jersey and 280 miles from where it was now headed, Washington D.C. Also reported about United Airlines Flight 93: ABC News has learned that shortly before the plane changed directions, someone in the cockpit radioed in and asked the FAA for a new flight plan, with a final destination of Washington. This should have been a big red flag, a problem aircraft usually diverts to the nearest field. Did the Pilot do this to signal Air Traffic Control? 9:35 a.m.: American Airlines begins landing all of its flights inside the United States. 9:36 a.m.: Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport instructs a military C130 aircraft that had just departed Andrews Air Force base to try to identify American Airlines Flight 77. The C130 reports it is a 767 and it is moving low and very fast. 9:37 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 is lost from radar screens and impacts the western side of the Pentagon. The section of the Pentagon hit consists mainly of newly renovated, unoccupied offices. The Pentagon says American Airlines Flight 77 hits them at 9:37. Other published reports have American Airlines Flight 77 striking at 9:40 to 9:43; The New York Times even published 9:45. (The photos taken before the Pentagon "E Section" collapses at 10:10 a.m. show a hole that sure does not look like a Boeing 757-223 hit it. There were no holes in the Pentagon where both jet engines would have gone through? Why?) At 9:37 NORAD says the F-16’s from Langley were still 105 miles and 12 minutes away. Incredibly, this means their average flight speed was only 14.3% of their top speed in trying to intercept United Airlines Flight 175 before it hits the Pentagon. If these F-16’s flew at top speed, they would have been there just after 9:37. Langley is 130 miles from the Pentagon. F-16's have a top speed of 1500 MPH. Minus 105 miles left from 130 miles equals 25 miles covered in the 7 minutes from 9:30 take-off to 9:37. 60 minutes divided by 7 minutes equals 8.57, times this by the 25 miles covered, equals 214.3 MPH. divided by 1500 MPH equals 14.3% of their top speed. How could these two F-15’s possibly be going one seventh of their top speed in trying to intercept American Airlines Flight 77? Even the story about first flying to NYC does not account for this unbelievably slow speed because they got the message to redirect to Washington D.C. within a couple of minutes of take-off, and NYC and Washington D.C. are almost exactly the same direction (north) from Langley. Stand Down. Three more of the 7 air stations on full alert were within range of Washington D.C. Tyndall AFB in Panama City, Florida is 800 miles from Washington D.C., from the time they scramble and flying at top speed, they could have reached Washington D.C. in 35 to 40 minutes. Homestead ARB in Homestead, Florida is 1000 miles from Washington D.C. from the time they scramble and flying at top speed, they could have reached Washington D.C. in 45 to 50 minutes. Ellington ANG in Houston, Texas is 1250 miles from Washington D.C. from the time they scramble and flying at top speed, they could have reached Washington D.C. in 55 to 60 minutes. Remember at 8:40 the FAA notifies NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked and at 8:43 a.m. the FAA notifies NORAD that United Airlines Flight 175 has been hijacked. So at 8:43 a full 54 minutes before American Airlines Flight 77 hits the Pentagon, NORAD admits to knowing about these two airlines being hijacked. With a 54 minute start -- besides of course Otis ANG who were already in the air (at 8:52) and Langley AFB fighters (finally ordered to scramble at 9:24 – airborne at 9:30), both Tyndall AFB and Homestead ARB fighters could have beaten American Airlines Flight 77 to the Pentagon and Ellington ANG fighters had an outside chance. Of course both air stations in Florida, Tyndall AFB and Homestead ARB, should have been sent to protect Air Force One in Sarasota -- but incredibly they weren’t sent there either. At 8:56 the transponder on American Airlines Flight 77 stops sending the IFF beacon. This is 41 minutes before it hits the Pentagon. Again besides of course Otis ANG and Langley AFB fighters, if ordered to scramble at 8:56 Tyndall AFB fighters could have still beaten American Airlines Flight 77 to the Pentagon. Stand Down. NORAD Press Release: http://www.norad.mil/presrelNORADTimelines.htm AP Article On NORAD PR: http://www.AttackOnAmerica.net/8MinutesAway.htm 9:38 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 completes its 135 degree turn and is headed directly towards Washington D.C. 9:40 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 transponder signal stops. 9:40 a.m.: Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta, summoned by the White House to the bunker, was on an open line to the Federal Aviation Administration operations center, monitoring Flight 77 as it hurtled toward Washington, with radar tracks coming every seven seconds. Reports came that the plane was 50 miles out, 30 miles out, 10 miles out-until word reached the bunker that there had been an explosion at the Pentagon. Mineta shouted into the phone to Monte Belger at the FAA: "Monte, bring all the planes down." It was an unprecedented order -- there were 4,546 airplanes in the air at the time. Belger, the FAA's acting deputy administrator, amended Mineta's directive to take into account the authority vested in airline pilots. "We're bringing them down per pilot discretion," Belger told the secretary. "Fuck pilot discretion," Mineta yelled back. "Get those goddamn planes down." The FAA stops all flight operations at U.S. airports and orders all planes in the air to land at the nearest airport. No civilian aircraft are allowed to lift off. This is the first time all commercial flights in the U.S. have been suspended. Only military and medical flights are allowed to fly. 9:42 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 passenger Mark Bingham calls his mother. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham," he said, nervously. "I want to let you know that I love you. I'm calling from the plane. We've been taken over. There are three men that say they have a bomb." 97) 9:45 a.m.: Bush's motorcade leaves the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida headed for Air Force One at the Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport. 9:45 a.m. to 9:48 a.m.: The Capitol and the White House are evacuated. 9:47 a.m.: Commanders worldwide were ordered to raise their threat alert status four notches to "Delta", the highest level, to defend United States facilities. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld raised the defense condition signaling of the United States offensive readiness-to DefCon 3, the highest it had been since the Arab-Israeli war in 1973. United States officials also sent a message to the Russians, who were planning a military exercise not far from Alaska, urging them to rethink their plans. 9:49 a.m.: The F-16’s from Langley AFB finally arrive over Washington, D.C. to perform Combat Air Patrol over the city. It takes these F-16’s 19 minutes to reach Washington D.C. from Langley AFB which is about 130 miles to the south. If these F-16’s were flying at top speed it should have taken them just over 7 minutes to reach the Pentagon. They should have been there at about the same time the Pentagon is hit by American Airlines Flight 77, at 9:37. By arriving in Washington D.C. at 9:49, that would mean these F-16’s average flight speed was only 410.5 MPH. This means their average flight speed was only 27.4% of their top speed in trying to protect our nations capital. Langley AFB is 130 miles from the Pentagon and F-16's have a top speed of 1500 MPH. 60 minutes divided by 19 minutes = 3.16 x 130 miles = 410.5 MPH divided by 1500 MPH = 27.4%. These F-16’s took-off at 9:30, this is 43 minutes after American Airlines 11 impacts the North Tower of the WTC and 27 minutes after United Airlines Flight 175 slams into the South Tower of the WTC. Knowing this, these F-16’s fly at only 14.3% (overall 27.4%) of their top speed in trying to intercept American Airlines Flight 77 and protect our nations capital, Washington D.C. How could that possibly be? Why were all of these ultra-sophisticated fighter jets averaging flight speeds only one quarter of their top speed when sent to intercept hostile aircraft and protect New York City and our nation's Capital, Washington D.C.? What exactly is the purpose of these fighter jets being able to go 1875+ MPH and 1500 MPH, yet when the United States is being attacked and needs them the most they are only somehow capable of doing one quarter of their top speed? Stand Down. The United States Air Force is the most technologically advanced, and the most dominate military force ever known to man, and yet we didn’t have any other fighters on routine patrols or training missions anywhere within 1000 miles of New York City or Washington D. C. that morning? I have talked to a few people in the Air Force, and this is totally impossible. There are always fighters up on routine patrols or training missions. So where were they? And lastly, why didn't the Air Force follow procedure and immediately scramble to monitor any of these 4 flights like they did for the late great golfer Payne Stewart when his Lear jet went off course? This is not Oshkosh, Wisconsin we are talking about protecting here, it is New York City and the Capital of the United States, Washington D.C., and its air defenses were left total unguarded for one hour and twenty-three minutes (from 8:14 to 9:37) (or one hour and thirty-five minutes -- F-15 arrived in DC at 9:49) by the same country who have the greatest air superiority by far ever known. What type of a preposterous wag of the NORAD tale is this?
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see link for full story http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/fbi-had-greater-role-in-jose-pimentel-terrorism-case-documents-show.html?_r=1& Documents Show Extent of F.B.I.’s Role in Terror Case By JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN Published: November 13, 2012 The police drove a young Muslim convert to a precinct station house in Harlem, where two detectives from the Joint Terrorism Task Force wanted to speak with him. In the ensuing conversation, the young man, Jose Pimentel, held little back. He defended Osama bin Laden and the American-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as great speakers and lecturers. He said the Times Square bomber and the Army major who shot dozens of people at Fort Hood in Texas were fighting for a cause, and should not be considered terrorists. He also seemed to experience hallucinations. He told the detectives that as a boy in the Dominican Republic, he was followed around by a witch. A year later, the New York Police Department arrested Mr. Pimentel on state terrorism charges, accusing him of building a pipe bomb with a confidential informer for the police. Terrorism cases are almost always prosecuted in federal court, and there was some indication that the informer’s role made the Justice Department reluctant to bring charges against Mr. Pimentel. But newly filed court papers suggest a larger degree of involvement by the federal government in the early stages of the investigation into Mr. Pimentel than was previously known. Before Mr. Pimentel’s arrest, for instance, an F.B.I. agent who investigates domestic terrorism cases, Greg Ehrie, sought a search warrant for Mr. Pimentel’s e-mail accounts, according to documents turned over to Mr. Pimentel’s lawyers. The prosecution of Mr. Pimentel by state authorities was the result of a sting operation by the Police Department’s Intelligence Division. Between 2009 and 2011, the Intelligence Division had two confidential informers and one undercover officer who monitored Mr. Pimentel. But documents show that police detectives assigned to the F.B.I.-led Joint Terrorism Task Force also interviewed the suspect themselves. Notes from their interview offer a fuller portrait of Mr. Pimentel, whom neighbors have described as a somewhat lethargic figure who was often seen sitting on a bench, with a blank look, for hours at a time. The detectives noted that Mr. Pimentel was no longer seeing witches by the time he moved to the United States, but then “started seeing spirits.” The suspect told them that the visions stopped after he converted to Islam in 2004 at a mosque in Manhattan. Mr. Pimentel told the detectives that his mother supported him, but provided an allowance of just $2 a day — not enough, Mr. Pimentel noted, for car fare to a mosque on 96th Street. Because it would take him an hour to walk there, he was unable to pray, Mr. Pimentel complained. Excerpts from hundreds of hours of recordings of Mr. Pimentel offer a glimpse of the plotting at its early stages. “I’m going to build an atomic bomb,” a confidential informer told Mr. Pimentel during a Sept. 7 conversation. “Like Einstein.” In response, Mr. Pimentel urged, “We don’t really have to do anything that crazy.” According to the transcript, which was recently filed as a court exhibit, Mr. Pimentel urged that the informer “build, like, little bombs” that could be used to “take out little areas.” “It’s still hurting the government,” Mr. Pimentel said. But at one point, Mr. Pimentel suggested that the informer take the lead in building the bomb. “I live with my parents. So, you live with your wife,” Mr. Pimentel said to the informer. “You can make your own bomb, you know.” Mr. Pimentel went on to agree to accompany the informer to place the bomb. “But as far as making it, it’s you do it in your house or let me do it with you in your house. You feel me?” A lawyer for Mr. Pimentel, Lori Cohen, said that “the totality of the tapes demonstrates that Mr. Pimentel would never had done anything without the government’s intervention.”
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see link for full story http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/11/24/why-louis-freeh-should-be-investigated-for-911/ Why Louis Freeh Should Be Investigated For 9/11 by Kevin Ryan November 24, 2012 In the summer of 2001, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent Robert Wright, a counterterrorism expert from the Chicago office, made some startling claims about the Bureau in a written statement outlining the difficulties he had doing his job. Three months before 9/11, he wrote: “The FBI has proven for the past decade it cannot identify and prevent acts of terrorism against the United States and its citizens at home and abroad. Even worse, there is virtually no effort on the part of the FBI’s International Terrorism Unit to neutralize known and suspected terrorists residing within the United States.”[1] Revelations since 9/11 have confirmed Wright’s claims. FBI management did little or nothing to stop terrorism in the decade before 9/11 and, in some cases, appeared to have supported terrorists. This is more disturbing considering that the power of the FBI over terrorism investigations was supreme. In 1998, the FBI’s strategic plan stated that terrorist activities fell “almost exclusively within the jurisdiction of the FBI” and that “the FBI has no higher priority than to combat terrorism.”[2] A number of people are suspect in these failures, including the leaders of the FBI’s counterterrorism programs. But at the time of Wright’s written complaint, which was not shared with the public until May 2002, the man most responsible was Louis Freeh, Director of the FBI from 1993 to 2001. Agent Wright was not FBI leadership’s only detractor, and not the only one to criticize Freeh. The public advocacy law firm Judicial Watch, which prosecutes government abuse and corruption, rejoiced at the news of Freeh’s May 2001 resignation.[3] Judicial Watch pointed to a “legacy of corruption” at the FBI under Freeh, listing the espionage scandal at Los Alamos National Laboratories, as well as “Filegate, Waco, the Ruby Ridge cover-up, the Olympic bombing frame-up of Richard Jewell, [and] falsification of evidence concerning the Oklahoma City bombing.”[4] Judicial Watch said that Director Freeh believed he was above the law. The group went on to say that Freeh was “a man so corrupt he destroyed the office he led, and a man so cowardly he refuses to face the music for the illegalities he has allegedly committed.”[5] To this was added a claim that the FBI under Freeh was being directed by sinister yet unknown forces. “In case after case throughout the 1990′s, the FBI seems to have tailored its investigative efforts to fit somebody’s pre-arranged script. The question is, who wrote that script — and why?” Freeh became FBI Director on July 19, 1993, just five months after the first WTC bombing, three months after the Waco siege, and one day before the alleged suicide of Hillary Clinton’s former Rose Law Firm associate, deputy White House counsel Vincent Foster. Freeh’s predecessor was William Sessions. Prior to his appointment by President Clinton, Freeh was a federal judge. He had been selected for that position by President George H.W. Bush in 1991. Before that, Freeh had been an Assistant District Attorney for the Southern District of New York and an FBI field agent. Freeh was involved with U.S. counter-terrorism efforts for many years prior to his appointment as FBI Director in 1993. As an FBI agent he worked for the New York Field Office, which led the FBI’s counterterrorism effort. It was later the lead field office for Bin Laden investigations and was the first to establish a Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) of state and federal law enforcement and intelligence personnel. Freeh worked there for seven years until he was promoted to Assistant U.S. Attorney in 1981. Throughout the 1980s, Freeh worked with or for U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani, who was mayor of New York City on 9/11. Although Clinton was a Democrat, after his appointment as FBI Director Freeh immediately began forming alliances with Republicans in Congress. This apparently caused difficulty between the FBI and Clinton’s White House. Freeh also developed a secret relationship with his former supporter, former President George H. W. Bush. He used that relationship to communicate with the Saudi royal family without Clinton’s knowledge.[6] Ignoring or facilitating domestic terrorism Just five months before Freeh’s appointment as FBI Director, the World Trade Center (WTC) was bombed in an attack that killed six people and wounded a thousand others. It was blamed on a Pakistani-Kuwaiti by the name of Ramzi Yousef, along with about half a dozen others. However, as the New York Times reported, it was clear that the FBI was somehow involved as well. Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad A. Salem, should be used, the informer said.[7] The 1993 WTC bombing was a terrorist operation that had been infiltrated by the FBI but the role that the FBI played in trying to prevent that operation, or allow it to go forward, has never been revealed. What has been revealed is that forensic data was falsified and “conclusions were altered to help the government’s case.”[8] These facts were revealed by Frederick Whitehurst, the chemist and supervisory special agent in charge of the FBI’s crime lab who became a whistleblower. The altered conclusions that Whitehurst described were made under the leadership of Louis Freeh. A similar case occurred in April 1995, when the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City (OKC) was bombed, killing 168 people including 19 children. Investigators have since learned that the FBI played a role in that bombing as well. Reasons that the OKC bombing was suspicious include the fact that there were secondary explosives found in the building that were not reported as part of the official account. And as with the events of 9/11, the FBI immediately confiscated, and refused to release, security videos that would have revealed what actually happened.[9] Freeh’s colleague and personal friend, Larry Potts, was the FBI supervisor who was responsible for the tragedies at Ruby Ridge in 1992, and Waco in 1993. Potts was then given responsibility for investigating the Oklahoma City bombing.[10] Later it was claimed by one of the convicted conspirators that lead bomber Timothy McVeigh was actually acting under the direction of Potts.[11] As an apparent reward for Potts’ performance, in May 1995 Freeh promoted him to be his number two man as Deputy Director of the FBI. Two months later, Freeh removed Potts from that position due to public outrage at the appointment. On the FBI links to the OKC bombing, author Peter Dale Scott wrote: One such case of a penetrated operation “gone wrong” in 1993 might be attributed to confusion, bureaucratic incompetence, or the problems of determining when sufficient evidence had been gathered to justify arrests. A repeated catastrophe two years later raises the question whether the lethal outcome was not intended.[12] The result of the OKC bombing in governmental terms was the passage of a new anti–terrorism law in April 1996. This was a bill that would be mirrored by the USA Patriot Act six years later, and it was described as representing an assault on civil liberties. The Houston Chronicle called the bill a “frightening” and “grievous” attack on domestic freedoms. But Louis Freeh supported it. Because many Congressional representatives opposed the bill, it was passed only after having been watered down. In Freeh’s words, it had been “stripped… of just about every meaningful provision.”[13] Freeh’s call for this legislation to be more restrictive of civil liberties must be considered with the fact that his agency was accused of facilitating the event that precipitated the legislation. One of the obstacles often cited as a root cause for the FBI not doing its anti-terrorism job effectively was “the Wall.” This was a set of procedures that restricted the flow of information between law enforcement officers pursuing criminal investigations and officers pursuing intelligence information via the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The procedures, set out in a 1995 memo from deputy attorney general (and future 9/11 Commissioner) Jamie Gorelick, were seemingly intended to prevent the loss of evidence, due to technicalities, that might be obtained via a FISA warrant.[14] Because such losses were never actually experienced, later claims about “the Wall” appear to be weak excuses to explain why information was not shared or actions were not taken.
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TWO READS 1st read http://ae911truth.org/ 2nd read http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/state-and-regional/fbi-undercover-operatives-ids-to-remain-secret/article_adff1387-ee87-50d4-9d20-742d2f0fab4c.html FBI undercover operatives IDs to remain secret November 28, 2012 A federal judge in an Oregon man's upcoming trial on a terrorism charge says the government may keep secret the real identities of two undercover FBI operatives expected to be key witnesses. In an opinion signed Tuesday, Judge Garr King found that identifying the two would be helpful to Mohamed Mohamud's lawyers preparing for a January trial. However, King also found that the government's national security interest in protecting the identities outweighs any defense interest in obtaining the names. see link for full story
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see link for full story http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/opinion/checking-the-costs-of-homeland-security.html?_r=1& Checking the Costs of Homeland Security Published: December 9, 2012 It was no surprise that a fierce budget hawk like Senator Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, pounced on ridiculous grants doled out by the Department of Homeland Security supposedly to help local police and fire departments prepare for terrorist attacks. Mr. Coburn’s recent report on the department’s decade-long, $7 billion program, called the Urban Areas Security Initiative, offers many depressing examples of locally misspent money. There was an armored car in New Hampshire whose duties included patrolling the annual pumpkin festival. Car-bomb barriers and surveillance cameras, purchased by authorities in Peoria, Ariz., to protect spring-training fans. License plate reading machines in Louisiana used to track car thieves. An $88,000 truck-mounted, piercingly loud device for crowd control in Pittsburgh. And $1,000 fees for first responders to attend a “zombie Apocalypse” demonstration at a counterterrorism conference in California to learn how to handle chaotic events, with actors playing the living dead. Beyond these items, however, the 54-page report did not say much about the bulk of the grants that the department argues really do improve urban security: setting nationwide training standards for more than four million first responders; building search-and-rescue disaster teams for the riskiest areas; improving communications among multiple jurisdictions of first responders; and upgrading bomb squads with robotic technology. The agency makes a sound argument that the considerable success of emergency responders during Hurricane Sandy and in its aftermath was the result of programs and equipment paid for by earlier homeland grants. Senator Coburn, who is expected to be the top Republican on the Homeland Security Committee next year, questions whether the grants going to 31 urban areas have degraded to political pork. Homeland Security officials insist that the money is for the most part well spent, with the agency working with the F.B.I. to focus on true risks.
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COUPLE READS
We know who the terrorists are, eh?

1ST READ

see link for full story and try to watch the important documentary SILENCED
http://www.cashill.com/silenced.htm

http://rense.com/general11/800cnn.htm

CNN Yanks WND's Jack Cashill

Jack Cashill, the man behind the stunning documentary video "Silenced: Flight 800 and the Subversion of Justice," was abruptly pulled from participating on tonight's edition of CNN's "The Point."

Hours before the broadcast, after the studio was already set up, Cashill got a call from the show's producer telling him his appearance was scrapped because Jim Hall, ex-chairman of the National Transportation and Safety Board would not go on the show with him.

"Someone upstairs told her that responsible journalism means I can't appear on the show without a counter balance," explains Cashill. "But, ironically, it's OK for Jim Hall to appear by himself."

TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747, exploded in July 1996 shortly after taking off from New York's Kennedy Airport, killing all 230 people onboard. The explosion was witnessed by 736 people. The U.S. government issued an explanation that a fuel tank had somehow exploded. Officials flatly denied any evidence existed of foul play, including the possibility that Flight 800 had been blown out of the air by a missile.

Cashill's investigation, however, reveals documented facts that fly in the face of the official explanation. His video presents compelling evidence and eyewitness testimony that Flight 800 was shot down by missile fire and that a massive government cover-up followed the tragic event.


WorldNetDaily recently ran a five-part series by Cashill that chronicles his investigative work. The WND contributing writer's latest column explains why the federal government would cover-up the truth about the Flight 800 tragedy.

Cashill points out that CNN's definition of "responsible journalism" changed from yesterday to today.

"The producer called me yesterday and asked me if I minded going on the show by myself," Cashill said. Then this morning, the producer informed him she had Hall coming on to join Cashill.

"I had an ominous feeling. It sounded too ripe," Cashill said.

Hours later, the producer called again and apologetically canceled Cashill with the explanation that Hall's publicist had insisted Cashill not go on, according to Cashill.


2nd read You know why FBI Director Mueller wants to get the documents ? To sanitize any material in them linking the FBI to the Lockerbie Bombing. see link for full story http://www.dgstandard.co.uk/dumfries-news/local-news-dumfries/local-news-dumfriesshire/2012/12/26/libyans-to-hand-over-lockerbie-bombing-files-51311-32489874/

Libyans to hand over Lockerbie bombing files

Dec 26 2012 by Sharon Liptrott, Dumfries & Galloway Standard

Libyan files relating to the Lockerbie bombing are to be released by the new government in Tripoli.

The country’s ambassador to the UK, Mahmud Nacua, said their government is now prepared to open all files and information it has on the terrorist atrocity which took place 24 years ago on Friday, killing 270 people including 11 Lockerbie residents.

Although no formal agreement has been made to the UK, he has gone on record saying it would happen but only when his government had fully established security and stability.

He believes this will take at least a year.

Libyan agent Abdelbaset al-Megrahi died this year after being released from a Scottish prison on compassionate grounds in 2009, suffering from terminal prostate cancer. He is the only person ever convicted of the bombing.

Following a revolution in Libya and the death of its then leader Colonel Gaddafi in 2011, Scottish police have sought to pursue other suspects in Libya.

Scotland’s Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland travelled to Tripoli in April with the director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, requesting co-operation after the fall of Gaddafi.

3rd read http://www.wnd.com/2007/08/43262/

FBI suppressed video of TWA explosion

Posted: August 30, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Recovered debris from TWA 800

More than six years after retired United Airline captain Ray Lahr launched his Freedom of Information Act petition into the fate of TWA Flight 800, the FBI has shown him –likely by accident – one seriously smoking gun.

The Boeing 747 blew up off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996. One of the FBI documents received recently by Lahr and his attorney details a communication that took place six days after the crash:

"On Tuesday, July 23, 1996, a representative from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) advised [the FBI] that after a visual analysis of both the videotape as well as a number of still photographs taken from various portions of the tape, the phenomenon captured by [redacted] appeared to be consistent with the exhaust plume from a MANPAD [Man-portable air-defense] missile."

"The FBI guy who looked at this must not have read it, or not have realized what it would reveal, Otherwise he would have redacted most of it as before."

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The people who gave Democracy 911 will soon
be coming to your neighborhood, eh?

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see link for how the moonbats spend your tax dime to hurt you

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/fda2051cc5ec4016bd237ada60d1c1ac/OR--Pendleton-Drones

1st read
National Guard drones in Pendleton could launch airport into new era

December 30, 2012 -

PENDLETON, Oregon — The National Guard in Pendleton expects to launch unmanned air vehicles soon out of the Eastern Oregon Regional Airport to train its 23-troop platoon.

City officials are optimistic the high-tech industry could bring jobs to Pendleton and fill properties on airport land, according to the East Oregonian (http://is.gd/N0gXJv).

Gregg Schroeder with the Oregon Army National Guard said the guard is waiting for Federal Aviation Administration approval to fly the craft — commonly known as drones or UAVs — at the airport.

Operating drones from the airport would not be restricted to Guard use.

The Oregon Fish and Wildlife Department and others could fly UAVs out of the airport to spot fires, track salmon migration, locate lost hunters and hikers and gather crop moisture information, said Fish and Wildlife commissioner Carter Kerns, who volunteered to research how UAVs could benefit the city.

The technology also could attract UAV and drone manufacturers to locate at the airport's industrial property, according to Kerns. He envisions Oregon State University and other schools partnering with state agencies to train employees to operate UAVs.

"The possibility for economic development for Pendleton, I think, would be measured in the millions rather than the hundreds of thousands," said Kerns, a retired FBI agent. "(It would be) the best thing that's happened to Pendleton in my lifetime, and I was born here."

2nd read

for the uneducated and the uneducable

high school dropout can't find work so he joins the Marines to Semper Fi
and collect some money.
High school dropout is sent to Paris Island to be all he can be. He is trained to kill women and children and a occasional freedom fighter trying to protect his wife from being raped by Mr Semper Fi.
High school dropout ships out to invade Iraq for USEmpire and US oil companies.
American oil companies are struggling with the problem of Peak Oil.
Peak oil means we no longer have a infinite supply of oil.Maybe you saw the documentary film END OF SUBURBIA see
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/previews.htm

high school drop out didn't because his high school teachers were too busy DUMBING him down
see
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/bookstore/dumbdnblum1.htm

High School dropout manages to kill a couple hundred women and children while throwing in a occasional rape. Mr Sempi Fi has now been transformed into Mr serial killer.
Mr high school dropout/serial killer now begins to experience extreme depression from his actions. Mental Wealth workers call it Post Traumatic
Stress Syndrome. But the only people who experience traumatic stress in Iraq are the Iraqi women being raped by Semper Fi's before they shot and killed them.
Good thing serial killer/high school dropout has never read the research
of Ian Stevenson MD whose groundbreaking study of 3,000 children who remember previous lives provides the science for the existence of reincarnation. see
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1542356/Professor-Ian-Stevenson.html

What this means for high school dropout is that he will be coming back
again for another life . Of course so will the people he murdered , so for practical purposes he has another couple hundred lives he has to live getting "wacked" by the life forms he semper fi'd.

The difference this time is the raped and murdered have had some time to ponder while they wait for him to pass over, how they will "do" Mr Semper Fi- the high school drop out serial killer.

Mr high school dropout comes back from Iraq out of work unless he re-enlists. There are not to many job openings for serial killers until he lands a job working with his be all you can be buddies at the local police department or the FBI.

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