So many times I have pondered the identity of the rider on the white horse from the First Seal in Revelation 6. While I knew in my spirit that he was not the A/C sent forth to conquer the world through deception as is so commonly suggested, his true identity eluded me. In early 2020 the Lord revealed his identity – he is the Servant of God, who is also known as the First-fruits Remnant and member of the 144,000.
It says that he goes forth to “conquer” which equates to Strong’s G3528, which means to “conquer, overcome, prevail, or get the victory”. We know from Revelation 12:11 that “they OVERCAME him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death”. Also Romans 8:37: “Nay, in all these things we are more than CONQUERORS through him that loved us”.
It says a “crown” was given unto him. It is the crown of righteousness and life. 2 Timothy 4:8 “Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.” And in James 1:12: “Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.”
Notice how the rider is on a WHITE HORSE in Revelation 6:2. The fact that the horse is white represents purity and righteousness. And we know from Revelation 14:4 that the servants of God are spiritual virgins meaning that they are totally dedicated to the Lord and not to the idols of this world. They have become living sacrifices (Romans 12:1-2) whose sole purpose is to do the will of God and not their own. They are those who deny themselves daily and have picked up their crosses and follow Jesus (Mark 8:34 and Matthew 16:24).
We know that the Servants of God are sealed first before the earth, seas and trees are harmed (Revelation 7:2-3). That passage suggests that the sealing of the servants must happen before the Sixth Seal since that is when “every mountain and island was moved out of its place” (Rev 6:14). And the sealing of the servants must happen before the Third Seal because it says “do not harm the oil and the wine” (Rev 6:6). Now the Second Seal describes war, which seems like it would be very destructive to the earth and people. So it seems logical to infer that the Servants of God would need to be sealed prior to that. That just leaves the First Seal.
So in Revelation 7 we are told the SEALING of God’s servants happens FIRST and in Revelation 6 it is the FIRST SEAL! So the FIRST SEAL in Revelation 6 is referring to those who are FIRST SEALED. Amazing right?
But why does the servant of God have a bow? Well I will present three possibilities, all of which suggest that the rider on the white horse is truly the servant of God.
In researching this, the first thing I did was to search on the word “bow” in the Blue letter Bible at BlueLetterBible.org. I got 2 hits – one on H7198 (77 occurrences) and the other on G5115 (only one occurrence and it’s in Revelation 6:2).
Okay let’s start with H7198:
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
I. bow
A. bow (for hunting, battle)
B. bowmen, archers
C. bow (fig. of might)
D. RAINBOW
The bow can also mean “rainbow”. According to Genesis 9:13 and Genesis 9:17, the rainbow symbolizes the COVENANT of God with His people. Amazingly, Isaiah 42:6-7 and Isaiah 49:8-9 refer to the Servant of God as being given as a COVENANT to the people!
Now I realize that the bow in Rev 6:2 equates to G5115 and not H7198. But isn’t it interesting that G5115 only occurs once and it is in Rev 6:2? If both G5115 and H7198 can refer to a physical bow, why was G5115 specifically used in Rev 6:2?
So let’s look at G5115:
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
II. a bow
III. Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
IV. τόξον tóxon, tox’-on; from the base of G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric):—bow.
Notice how G5115 is from the base of G5088. So here is G5088:
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
A. to bring forth, bear, produce (fruit from the seed)
B. of a woman giving birth
C. OF THE EARTH BRINGING FORTH ITS FRUITS
D. metaph. to bear, bring forth
Is it not amazing that the root of G5115 comes from G5088, which means “TO BRING FORTH FRUIT”, and the Servant of God is known as the “FIRST FRUITS of God”?
Here is one more possible explanation concerning the bow which I will present. Let’s assume for a moment that the bow in Revelation 6:2 actually represents a physical weapon.
So why is there a bow without arrows? Well in Isaiah 49:2 it says “And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and MADE ME A POLISHED SHAFT; IN HIS QUIVER HATH HE HID ME; 3And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
Now a polished shaft is an arrow and you put arrows in a quiver. So that passage is saying the Servant of God is the arrow in the Lord’s quiver. So the rider on the white horse doesn’t need physical weapons because HE IS THE WEAPON. Specifically, it is his mouth speaking the Word of God (“sword of the spirit”) that is the weapon.
Now I want to share a fascinating vision that the Lord shared with me on 4/25/2021. In the vision, I saw a woman get on a horse. As she was trying to steady herself, one of her boots fell off. End of vision.
I believe the woman getting on the horse refers to the First Seal but what about her boot falling off? Well, consider what it says in Ruth 4:7 “Now this was the manner in former time in Israel concerning redeeming and concerning changing, for to confirm all things; a man plucked off his shoe, and gave it to his neighbor: and this was a testimony in Israel. 8Therefore the kinsman said unto Boaz, Buy it for thee. So he drew off his shoe.”
So the act of plucking off the shoe meant “to take possession of something or to occupy it”. Notice in Luke 19 how Jesus gave his SERVANTS instructions to “OCCUPY TIL I COME”.
A couple of years ago I had a discussion with a friend of mine concerning the 144,000 servants of the Lord. Kathy insisted that the 144K were men of Jewish descent, whereas I said that they could be any nationality, race, age or sex. So she opened her bible to the passage in Revelation 7 that describes how they will be from the 12 tribes of Israel. At the time I couldn’t really explain why I thought they could be anybody and not necessarily people of Jewish descent. It was just a knowing in the spirit.
One day as I was reading Romans, the answer practically jumped off the page:
ROMANS 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Scriptures
REVELATION 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, come and see.
REVELATION 6:2 And I saw, and behold a WHITE HORSE: and he that sat on him had a BOW; and a CROWN was given unto him: and he went forth CONQUERING, AND TO CONQUER.
ROMANS 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than CONQUERORS through him that loved us
REVELATION 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
JAMES 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the CROWN OF LIFE, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
2 TIMOTHY 4:8 “Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.”
REVELATION 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
REVELATION 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads. 2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being THE FIRSTFRUITS unto God and to the Lamb. 5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
GENESIS 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the COVENANT which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
ISAIAH 42:1-7: BEHOLD MY SERVANT, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 4He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. 5Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and GIVE THEE FOR A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE, for a light of the Gentiles; 7To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
ISAIAH 49:8-9:8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, AND GIVE THEE FOR A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages; 9That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.
ISAIAH 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. 2And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a POLISHED SHAFT; IN HIS QUIVER hath he hid me; 3And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
ISAIAH 61:6-8 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves. 7For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them. 8For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting COVENANT with them.
RUTH 4:7 Now this was the manner in former time in Israel concerning redeeming and concerning changing, for TO CONFIRM ALL THINGS; A MAN PLUCKED OFF HIS SHOE, and gave it to his neighbor: and this was a testimony in Israel. 8Therefore the kinsman said unto Boaz, Buy it for thee. So he drew off his shoe.
LUKE 19:12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. 13And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, OCCUPY till I come. **Note: the pounds/minas represent authority. See Mark 13:34.
ACTS 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35But in every nation he that fears him, and works righteousness, is accepted with him.
ACTS 11:17-18 If then God gave them the same gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; who was I, that I could withstand God? 18When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then has God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
ROMANS 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
GALATIANS 3: 26 For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.29AND IF YOU ARE CHRIST’S, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM’S DESCENDANTS, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.
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So now I have received information from two people, including Dana, that the rider on the white horse is a servant of the LORD from the remnant, and is represented by a woman. So I will not discount this level of interpretation, since Bible passages many times have more than one meaning.
Another interpretation to consider, however, is how the three other riders are described. They are described as judgments: Sword (conflict), Famine (scarcity), and widespread Death (including by beasts). So where else are these judgments mentioned to pinpoint the meaning of the first rider?
“If disaster comes upon us—sword, judgment, pestilence, or famine—we will stand before this temple and in Your presence (for Your name is in this temple), and cry out to You in our affliction, and You will hear and save.” 2 Chronicles 20:9 NKJV
“So I will send against you famine and wild beasts, and they will bereave you. Pestilence and blood shall pass through you, and I will bring the sword against you. I, the Lord, have spoken.” Ezekiel 5:17
“For thus says the Lord God: ‘How much more it shall be when I send My four severe judgments on Jerusalem—the sword and famine and wild beasts and pestilence—to cut off man and beast from it?’ ”
Ezekiel 14:21
So from these verses that mention four judgments, I would have to conclude that the first rider represents conquest by Pestilence (plague). This gives more credence that the crown refers to the corona v., and the toxon (bow and arrow) means poison at the time it was written during the Roman Empire (Latin usage).
https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2019/03/in-a-word-how-english-got-intoxicated/
Christians can see how those in power are so greatly pushing the jab (poison/arrow) as a false solution to the corona, and this leads to the global mark of the beast.
Zachariah 9 vs 13-14, bears out what you say, I will bend Judah as I bend my bow and fill it with Ephraim…then the Lord will appear over them his arrow will flash like lightning etc. Dana, I love your postings and what God shows you, don’t give up!
Thank you so much Miriam for your kind words of encouragement!
Dana, might I have your email address? Your thoughts here are intriguing and plausible and I’d like to share more with you. I am at ourhopeisGod@gmail.com
Dana, I read this yesterday and related to it. The holy spirit lead me through a similar teaching with a slightly different perspective. Same basic conclusion. I woke up this morning with an urge to encourage you. It is so much fun when the holy spirit is teaching us and opening up his word. Thank you for sharing I hope everyone gets excited about what you have shared.
God bless you
Thank you Guild. You’re so right. It is a message of hope. And I greatly appreciate your encouragement.
The 144k ARE actual of jewish decent. They Bible is VERY clear and names the 12k of each TRIBE. If the Bible did not, then, yeah, you could possibly make that case. But since its so specific, we have to take what it says at face value.
Not to critique what you say because of pride, but “white m” does represent righteousness as a “virgin bride” also represents those who are righteous. And we know there were 10 virgin brides in Jesus parable, however, 5 were wise and 5 not.
Imo, the white horse with bow is a political leader fighting with words, an esteemed politicians of sorts. He has the threat of a bow, however, he does not have the physical arrows of war. He will not fight a physical battle.
Hi Ty D,
You said that since the verbiage in the bible is so specific regarding the 144K that we need to take it at face value. My response to that is that the Word of God must be spiritually discerned.
Luke 24:45 says that “He opened their understanding that they might comprehend the Scriptures.”
Why did Jesus have to open their understanding so that they could understand the Scriptures if we are to take the Word at face value?
Why does it say in Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter?”
Do you remember in Matthew 13:10 when the disciples asked Jesus why he spoke to them in parables? Jesus said “11He replied, “The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables:‘ Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.’
And finally why did the Lord say this?
Isaiah 55:8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD.
9“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so My ways are higher than your ways
and My thoughts than your thoughts.
Just something to ponder.
Yes, I am aware of all that. If you are making an absolute that the 144,000 witnesses that describe each of the “tribes” not actually being the tribes of Israel, then you can take anything we have at “face value” from the scriptures, you can contort into your own image.
My whole point was that if John, the revelator, left out the number and names of each tribe, then, yeah, we can debate based on the Roman’s verse you posted that it may not actual be “Israel.” But, since Johm was specific, we take his words what what they mean, not negate it with another “likewise” set of verses.
Do remember in Ruth 4:17 when the neighbor women said to Naomi: “There is a son born to Naomi!”?
Now did Naomi actually give birth to the baby? No, Ruth was his mom. So why did they say that? Could it be that the baby was actually a “spiritual son” to Naomi?
Or why did Jacob say to Joseph “ And now your 2 sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, who were born to you in the land of Egypt before I came to you in Egypt, are mine; as are Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mine? Did he physically father the 2 boys? No.
Could it be that Jesus’ definition of the word “son” is different from man’s? Yes it is (see Matthew 12:48 and John 1:12-13). Same is true with the word “jew”. All these things need to be spiritually discerned.
Also you said “you can take anything we have at “face value” from the scriptures, you can contort into your own image.” Actually every statement I made in my post is backed up by scripture. So if what I say is backed up by scripture, how can I be “contorting into my own image”?
No disrespect, but you didn’t back it up with scripture. You took the scripture and backed up your own interpretation.
It’s like an alcoholic justifying his drunkenness saying, “I can drink wine. Jesus turned water into wine. Paul also told timothy to drink wine because of his stomach ailments.” And people actually do this, do they not? Isnt this reckless to do such things?
This debate in the 144k is obviously not a salvation issue, that’s not what I’m alluding too. But just because you justify it with your interpretation of the word doesn’t make it an absolute as you assume. If you dont really believe the tribes of Israel are actually the various tribes of Israel, I’m curious of your interpretation of each individual tribe of these supposed “gentiles”- Reuben, Simeon, Levi, judah, Issachar, zebulon, dan, naphtali, gad, Asher, Benjamin, joseph, and manessah.
Let me have u start with Reuben. Who is reuben? And after that, please inform me of who simeon is etc….
Ty
I would encourage you to read about the 12 tribes of Israel in Genesis 49:1 – 28. The first verse says “Gather together that I may tell you what shall befall you IN THE LAST DAYS”. So that would be the place to start.
My belief on the 144K topic is supported by the following scriptures: Romans 2:28 -29 and Galatians 3:27-29. I feel we have exhausted this topic because to continue I would just need to start repeating what I have already said.
Look closer at the prophecy of Revelation 7:4-8. The tribe of Dan is not in the list. The prophecy says that there are 12,000 out of “every tribe of the sons of Israel” but Dan was a son of Israel and his tribe is missing from this prophetic list of tribes. There is something deeper than just the surface level “literal interpretation” that is going on here, because, literally, it is not “every tribe.” Also, look at the order of the tribes listed. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that everywhere else in the Bible the listings of “the tribes of Israel” are always given in the order of the oldest to the youngest. Yet, here they are mixed up.
Jesus chose Twelve Apostles because they represent the Twelve Tribes of Israel, showing a link between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant..
To the twelve apostles he said:
“You are those who have continued with me in my trials; as my Father appointed a kingdom for me, so do I appoint for you that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Lk 22:28-30)
We are a part of the new Covenant, the New Israel, from the Twelve Tribes of Israel, the 12 Apostles.
I love that Scripture at the end, Romans 2:28. Very few today understand that! Remember also that the “Jews” are not the same as the “12 tribes of Israel”. The term Jew only refers to the two (two & a half?) tribes in the southern kingdom. The 10 tribes in the northern kingdom were not Jews. Remember, the word Jew comes from “Judah” or, rather, “Yehudah”. Today, though, western Christians use “Jew” and Israelite” interchangeably and so get confused or misled about some of the Scriptures.
False peace bow with no arrows…….antichrist….and many will be deceived
Hi John the Dreamer,
Please see my response to Barbara. There is no deviation from scripture with regards to the 144K.
I think it is something bad not good, since the other 3 horsemen are bad. For me that rules out Jesus. I think it is either a fake Christ, Anti or instead of Christ figure, or a leader or leaders who seek to conquer militarily. In John’s day the distant Parthians were great horseback riding warriors who attacked with bow and arrow.
Amen Ed! Flesh and blood did not reveal that to you!
The 1st rider is none other than a counterfeit
John and Ed,
I think it’s clear that the four horsemen are symbols. None is an actual person, but symbols of God’s judgments. If it’s clear that horsemen 2 through 4 are symbols of Conflict, Scarcity, and Death, respectively, then the first horseman cannot be a person.
Jen Beebe this may be a better article on Macron & pictures @ church in Jerusalem I first replied further down in reply comments.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7916923/Furious-Emmanuel-Macron-argues-Israeli-police-visit-Jerusalem.html
Many pictures (bigger & clear what went on.)
Wow Anne! This is really interesting. that the first word of this article is furious, and Jen wrote that the man was furious when she found him out. I think of Revelation 12:12 where Satan is furious that he has little time left. I like you and John the Dreamer am keeping my attention alerted to his on-goings.
Yes Joan was going to reply earlier but I had to go to work ..in a hurry.Very revealing both articles.. if not for Jen Beebes dream I would not have mentioned it. Except this subject came up a few months ago. in another Post & comments section; same was discussed re E.M.
Yes Anne, I revisited that post/comments yesterday. Alot of good info on Macron. I also googled the economist photo of him that you mentioned. Did you see the photo of Obama beside him stating Obama used to walk on water! The link is really long but it should bring you there on first tap.
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Anne, I saw the cover story you were referring to where Macron walks on water. I immediately saw 2 snake heads next to him. They looked like cobras from afar. I thought wow how obvious is that? Upon further looking I thought oh it must be fish jumping out of the water so not to confuse the on lookers but then I looked even closer and saw it was a womans set of high heels. It was then pressed upon my spirit that the under water lady is none other then Lady Liberty herself and she represents America. We must buckle up because we are in for a hec of a ride. I know the Lord is rising up his army and we will walk in great mighty force WITH HIM and FOR HIM. Have a great day! Hugs my dear sister in Christ.
Jen- thanks to Nicks reply comment 24th May also; it was a link to a site called http://www.christianevidence.net from 2018 could E.M. be the A/C? – he said he bookmarked it for reference.
The Economist magazine each year puts out a new magazine & the front cover virtually shows the discerning reader what is coming from the global elite for that year. -Pictures form. the 2019, 2020 covers were crackers.. as is the one for 2021 with the slot machine on the front cover & pictures of Biden etc.. easy to search for.
Things are certainly ramping up in many ways, Praise the Father for spot on dreams & visions and he is warning us by his Spirit.. every part of the body is needed The Body of Christ. all coming together.
God Bless you Jen and everyone else Joan, John the dreamer, Joeh, Nick and all others on Z3 news.
Thank you Anne i receive your blessing and i say may yours continue to pour forth so as to have your cup run over that you may continue to bless others.
The economist has always served as their ” so what are you gonna do about it” publication
Not many know about their blatant arrogance
Satan knows no shame
Boldness and authority in love
As serpents as doves
Shalom
Dream last night was intense – My husband and I were in a large warehouse that reminded me of Sam’s Club. He was in line getting some things and I wandered off to grab a last minute item. I wandered back to an area I wasn’t supposed to be in but saw this man ripping apart another man’s arm. The taller man doing the ripping noticed that I saw all this and became furious and started to chase me. I ran and grabbed my husband and we ran outside. It was dark out and I saw a fake Jesus in the sky (don’t ask me how I knew he was fake but I just did) and I heard in the dream a voice say 2 Thessalonian the son of perdition is here. In the dream I saw who the man was very clearly..it was Emmanuel Macron. I woke up with an almost panic attack and looked at my phone and it was 1am. I had a hard time falling back to sleep. It’s not like me to dream of this man nor do I follow him. So I would love your thoughts. Im not saying he was the AC but this dream was very intense.
Macron may not be the little horn,good possibility he is one of the horns of the beast.was an investment banker with the Rothschild’s,according to wikipedia
I have really kept my eye on Macron since he began his campaign. He spoke of reviving the empire
He seemed charismatic. Said Napoleon was his hero
Had relations w his then high school teacher now wife. His birthday aligns w interesting astrological occurrences. He is European. According to those who have worked for him and around him he is really a homosexual and prefers young boys. Also they claim his marriage is a sham that she is just his photo op female so you dont recognize him as the pedophile reptile that he is.
Just break down his name alone and that should give it away
Pray about it
Look up his birthday then coincide that w the Dec 21 2020 last star alignment and the pieces start to fall into place.
Its all deceit its all the seeds its all to seat their savior in place of my JESUS
Like i was told… in the end the only truth from man will be the better lie
You decide
Shalom
Amazing you saw this mans face …this is confirming as I heard 2 pastors speak about 2 years ago maybe & they were discussing the name Emmanuel -being God is with us Macron.. he may be Catholic & he got angry with Jewish security guards in Jerusalem on a trip there because they were blocking Macrons entry to one of the Christian churches there .
Here is the article: https://www.timesofisrael.com/macron-yells-at-israeli-security-to-leave-french-church-during-jerusalem-visit/ 22 Jan 2020.
Mentions church of St Anne, French Territory,
Most interesting, read the article carefully- locations of significance etc ..many pictures 5 or 6 plus short video of the same.
A lady from France in another Z3 post months ago mentioned Macron had said previously he would rule like Jupiter. that was mentioned in comment section of Z3 news months ago. but cannot remember the exact post. A few of us made comments re the same on what we understood.
The 2 pastors thought he was an end time possibility/ sure .. he would play a significant part. .
The received wisdom here is BO but I noticed and bookmarked this for reference a while back:
https://www.christianevidence.net/2018/11/could-emmanuel-macron-be-anti-christ.html
Lots of revealing information here. His full name certainly reveals much also.The magazine cover – picture of him walking on water is so right in your face etc.. (Europes saviour.)
Also this one is worth noting: https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/seat_666.htm
The empty seat in the European Parliament Brussels.
Thanks for providing this great article. I noticed he also had a Jesuit education. And he sounds more of a narcissist than O! Yes, Macron is someone to pay attention to as the end time scenario plays out before us.
You know what’s interesting about O’Bummer, though, is that a few years back he interviewed at the UN for the UN Secretary General position. I live in NY and my friend works at the UN and he was there with all the other people who were interviewing for that job. I believe he will have some big position in the end times. Blessings!
Also noticed and bookmarked this around the same time – meant to post it with the other link (interesting but only sharing in passing since it’s already been noticed – not suggesting anything or claiming any insight…spotting the AC isn’t my focus)
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/oct/20/emmanuel-macron-orbiting-jupiter-emmanuel-carrere
Hi Dana-and everyone, Your post, plus the the various responses, prompted me to reexamine Rev. 6 and the 144,000, As I see it, the viewpoints that align with the word and flow with scriptural patterns are that of Margaret, Linda, and Johnny. For example, to identify who the man Child is, Margaret refers to Rev. 12 (4-5), who can only be Jesus Christ. She also states that the breaking of the seals coincides with increasing lawlessness, resulting in the judgements, This is a pattern in scripture: for example, the Jews were able to take the Promised Land because the wickedness of the nations occupying it had become so great (Deut. 9:4-5).
It’s significant that in Rev. 14:1 that the 144,00o are standing on Mt. Zion with the Lamb, which is the site of the original Jewish temple. Rev. 7:4-8 states that there are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel (universal rule of Bible interpretation: “If literal sense makes good sense, seek no other interpretation). It’s also stated in Rev. 7:13-14 that the 144,000 came out of (therefore, had been in) the great tribulation.
With regards to the white horse: colors, animals, etc. can be a negative or a positive. This principle is seen in scripture as well-a lion can represent Christ or the devil, depending on the context. (Rev5:5 and 1Peter 5:8).
Final thought: I’m wondering, is it just a coincidence that the Greek word for bow is toxon-which is the root word for poison in our language? Just asking. Nothing like an online Bible study/debate. We can all still be friends-right?
Hi Mary L,
I welcome a healthy online study/debate. You said that “If literal makes good sense, seek no other interpretation”. I feel like the Word is many layers deep and much of it must be spiritually discerned. I have found that if I rely just on the surface or the literal meaning then the true meat can be missed. I will give you an example.
In Genesis Abram presented Sarai, who was actually his wife, as his sister. Later when Pharaoh realized that she was actually his wife, he was angry because he felt he had been lied to. But Abram did not lie because it says in Matthew 12:50 “For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother and sister and mother”. So spiritually speaking Sarai was truly Abram’s sister because she did the will of the Father.
So that is just one example of literally thousands where the deeper meaning behind the Word has to be spiritually discerned. I view the Word as a giant jigsaw puzzle where the true meaning has to be pieced together from many different places in the Bible in order to be fully understood.
Thanks for responding positively. I’m going to have to disagree with you again about the Abram and Sarai situation. Abram told a half-truth, which is a lie, and was called out for it. If God hadn’t directly intervened and told Pharaoh not to touch her, it would have been disastrous. God was being merciful.
Actually the same thing happened twice – once with Pharaoh and a second time with Abimelech. In Gen 20:12 Abram revealed that she is truly his sister by blood . She was the daughter of his father but not his mother. So she was his sister by blood and also his spiritual “sister” because she did the will of the father. So he did not lie.
Mary L,
Also something that really helped me in my understanding of the Bible was Luke 24:32 and Luke 24:45. When I read those 2 passages, I realized that I could ask God to “open my understanding so that I might comprehend the scriptures”. So I starting praying that and over time the passages that I struggled with suddenly started to make sense.
Yes, I’m aware of the 2 times of similar behavior from Abram. Actually, I should have checked-the incident with Abimelech was the one in which God told him in a dream not to touch Sara. Sorry bout that. You inspired me into looking for more info. I won’t belabor the point after this, but I found a good article on this subject you might want to check out:
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/tools/ask-a-scholar/sarah-abraham-and-pharaoh
Blessings to you!
Thank you Pete for all the great information! You have confirmed that the word used in Rev 6:2 is from the Greek τόξον/toxon (bow), and not τοξικών/toxikón (poison arrow), which is perfectly in line with my belief that the rider on the white horse is the Servant of God.
If ye abide(G3306) in me, and my words(G4487) abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
For with God nothing(3756+3956+4487) shall be impossible.
(P.S. that means when it comes to His rhema, it’s an all or nothing sort of thing!)
I pushed wrong,I like the poison arrow,similar to fiery darts in eph.6
Hello 🙂
The Greek word in Strong’s Concordance is toxon – bow.
But doing a word history search you will find this concerning that word. Interesting that this
is from an anaesthetist!
Scientific Origins
According to Grant Hutchinson, anesthetist and writer for the British Medical Journal, The word Toxoplasma originated from the Greek word toxon, which meant “bow.” This became the basis for the Latin word toxicum, which meant “poison.” The original Greek meaning is the one used for the word Toxoplasma, meaning “bow shaped organism (2).”
Also this 🙂 :
tox·on , toxone (tok’sŏn, tok’sōn),
A hypothetical bacterial product, of feeble toxicity and weak affinity for antitoxin.
This is also connected to the toxon medical information. Interesting,that genes, dna and “proteins” is connected to this rabbit hole search of the the word toxon . 🙂
Significance
Toxin–antitoxin (TA) systems are pairs of genes found throughout bacteria that function in DNA maintenance and bacterial survival. The toxins in these systems function by inactivating critical cell processes like protein synthesis. This work describes a TA system found in 17% of all sequenced bacteria. A high-resolution crystal structure and an array of biochemical tests revealed that this toxin targets an essential enzyme in nucleotide biosynthesis, a unique way in which TA systems can halt bacterial growth.
I would have thought if the rider on the white horse was Jesus ,
the announcement would be mighty grande, as his birth, life, and death was!
Not silence and guesswork, just my opinion. 🙂
Crystal, I did not say that the rider on the white horse in Rev 6:2 was Jesus. It is the Servants of God who are also known as the First fruits remnant. These servants are also known as the 144K. They have to be sealed first so that they can help bring in the lost during the Tribulation.
Hi Dana, I did not mean to imply that you said Jesus was the rider of the white horse. I just know that in the Bible Study field it is assumed by some that he is. Sorry for the mis communication from me Dana 🙂
No worries. I appreciate all your feedback Crystal 🙂
Thank you Dana 🙂
We see as in a glass darkly. Interesting how in the same chapter at verse 8 that power was given to kill one fourth on earth, sounds like the depopulation agenda to me! God knows those who are his, and we are his beloved ,and his banner over US is LOVE.
He will give us all we need and he is our Comforter 🙂 Glory to his holy name.
I waited a few days to answer because I knew there would be a big response to this topic and I wanted to see what everyone said. The fact that people have different opinions means that we ALL only understand in part. We can’t be know-it-all’s. Or argue (even if we do it in a super polite way.) The end times eschatology seems to be a very divisive subject for Christians. That means we need to sit and stay at the foot of Jesus with all our questions. He is not the author of confusion. I think the mindset of “not knowing or understanding completely” is very scary to people. That’s where trusting the Lord with all our heart and leaning not to our own understanding” comes in. There will be a day when you won’t be able to look anything up except in your own personal Bible. Being able to hear God’s voice clearly will be the only thing that will get you through. If you’re on this site fishing for the latest information, you are not spending enough time with Jesus.
Beautifully stated. The only thing I would add is that I believe there will come a day when we might not even have our Bibles. I personally think that the best way to prepare for the days ahead is to devour the Word of God now, mediate on it night and day, read it, listen to it, and memorize it. Because it is life to those who find it and health to all their flesh.
Amen Dana. Much love!
The Rider on the White Horse in Jesus Christ.
According to Catholic prophecy, the man on the white horse is called the “Great Monarch” who saves Europe and the Catholic church from a Russian invasion during the World War Three. period. These prophecies cover many prior centuries and there are a lot of entries about this man on Wikipedia. Books collecting all the prophecies together have been written. More precisely, the man on the white horse includes all military leaders who are involved against Russia and her allies – the Great Monarch being the principal figure.
Kenneth, I don’t want you to sit at the bottom of a comment page feeling that 11 down voters didn’t take the time to dialogue with you about why they had disagreed with you. It can be unsettling and give one a spirit of rejection. If you want to know the truth, I think the consensus on this site is James Bailey feels strongly that the Jesuits are responsible for every evil agenda that is mapped out in the elite’s plans to take down the world. So most ideology that suggests Catholic influence is regarded as untrue. I just don’t want you walking away feeling like you were ganged up on, Hopefully some of the down voters will come forward in a loving manner to dialogue with you, so you can learn more and make a decision on wether this site aligns with your beliefs. There appears to be iboth truths and untruths posted here, as is demonstrated by this apparently erroneous article. Because none of us has all the answers, but everyone has a lot to say. I don’t think anyone has it all figured out. I can humbly say I’m more concerned about you feeling loved and welcome than anything else right now. God bless.
Very interesting interpretation of this passage. Esp in light of the man Child in Revelation 12. The Bride must grow up into maturity, and the remnant is doing so, and will call the Lord back to earth with the Spirit saying “The Spirit and the Bride say come!”. In my extensive studies of Revelation, God hands Jesus the scroll (title deed) of the earth, and Jesus begins breaking the seals to commence the end. Jesus said that sin and transgression would reach its fulness in the end times, and these seals, when you study them, are the unveiling of the fulness of man’s transgression and sin upon the earth. This is God allowing man to take his sin and his decisions upon this earth to further wickedness and humanism to its fullest lawless states before Christ’s return. This has to happen before He comes back (the wheat and the tares both grow up in to maturity in the end). Thus, the first horse and rider would be the commencement of the end. 2 Thess 2 tells us the falling away and great deception takes place before the Ant-Christ. Jesus tells us the spirit of Elijah would come before the end as well. The first horse rider then, would be the spirit of lawlessness, which is the forerunner spirit that prepares the way of the end and the anti-christ, who rules under pure deception (Just as Jesus had the the spirit of Elijah through John the Baptist to prepare His coming the spirit of lawlessness is the forerunner spirit to prepare the earth for the end/anti-christ). He is “given” a crown – He is allowed to deceive and spread lawlessness. We see this happening now. Lawlessness is increasing, and is rampant, and many are falling away. The seals after that come as a result of that lawlessness, and they appear to be results, or domino effects of each one being unveiled. The result of lawlessness is violence, and tyranny, resulting in communism, and men dying, economic collapses, pestilences, etc. etc.
Then we see cosmic disturbances taking place, which we are seeing now – volcanoes, asteriods beginning to fall from the sky, etc.
I understand your perspective and I agree that the mature Bride is rising and what you shared Biblically makes sense, but what I am sharing also fits in context of these seals that Jesus breaks that allow man’s ways and sin to reach its climax in the end days. And, we do not know how long each season of each seal being broken will be. Thus, if the first seal is lawlessness, that seal’s effects could be for 40-50 years, etc, as it unveils itself.
Another thing I wanted to mention regarding the 144,000 – these are Jewish believers, but they could be from every country, as the Jews did disperse everywhere. So they could be Jewish American, Jewish Chinese, etc.
But we have to remember that God did separate the dispensations between Jewish and Gentile seasons. Thus, in the very beginning, it was the Gentile age. Then when God made the covenant with Abraham and the Jewish nation came forth, it was the time of the Jews. Then when Jesus died and rose, it became the time of the Gentiles again. Right before the end, it will switch back to the time of the Jews once more to fulfill the final 1 week of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy. So the last week – the Tribulation period, is a Jewish dispensation that will have a Gentile remnant in it. These 144,000 are Jews that will serve and follow the Lord during this last Jewish dispensation. But I do believe that the spirit they carry of holiness and purity and not being defiled will be held by many more at that time, including the Gentile believers as well.
Hi family! I thought the 144,000 appeared much later in the tribulation period.??
Nathan Leal did a teaching on the first horseman using the original Greek interpretation of the words in the scripture regarding the first seal and the white horseman. From the blue letter Bible translation of biblical words. (Original Greek)
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search.cfm/aindex.cfm.
This is a brief synopsis of the translation he found…
We must understand the scriptures and the prophecies.
It say in Revelation: “come and see.”
If we come to him we will be able to see.
It Starts with repentance.
“And I looked and beheld…”
When we look and behold then We can discern that something is wrong. At First we just FELT that something was wrong
But if you look, you will behold.
This is the formula to “see.”
Before he broke the seal you couldn’t see what the horseman was. Once he broke the seal then the ability to see was granted.
Read Daniel 12:8-9
Daniel was shown certain things but then
It was sealed up so Daniel couldn’t know any more. It wasn’t for his time.
Only As a seal is being broken and it is happening in real time – only then can we see.
White – can indicate medical clothes, sterility, trust – white usually means good, pure. It’s a hoax. Corona conquered the whole world. This has been going on for a year now. We didn’t realize that the tribulation had started. Our traditions wouldn’t let us believe that.
“crown” – translates to “corona” in the original greek. Corona virus?
“Bow” – means “arrow dipped in poison” in the original Greek
Sounds like a modern day vaccine needle with poison in it. The lethal vaccine needle. The corona virus and the vaxx are conquering the entire world. From the translations of the Greek, it doesn’t sound like the white horseman is benevolent if he has an arrow dipped in poison and he is conquering the whole world.
2nd seal – only in real time when he opens the seal will we know what it totally means…. Then we will come and see and He will reveal…. It may be that the worldwide death from the vaxx and the plannedemic is the 2nd rider. We are killing each other by forcing the vaccine on people. Etc.
He is not making a doctrine out of this but
this is Nathan Leal’s interpretation of the words.
I am familiar with that teaching by Nathan Leal. Elizabeth Marie also echoed his teaching in part. Because multiple people are presenting different explanations, this is the time to search out the truth in the Word and by asking the Holy Spirit. I knew when I posted this Word, that it would be controversial and that it opposed what many other prophets are saying. However, I must speak what the Lord directs me to say. I sat on this word for a long, long time. And He confirmed it over and over and over again. Please seek Him directly for the truth.
Amen Dana. I always seek the Lord. Like I said, Nathan’s opinion is not doctrine but it is interesting. Blessings!!
Hi Dana- me again… I wanted to clarify something further. I go to the Lord with questions all the time. He doesn’t answer me all the time. But the Word of God is God also. So when we go to the Greek lexicon (because the New Testament was written in Greek), we are looking for what the author of the text actually said and actually mean in that specific verse. Yes the word “bow” can mean all the things you mentioned: rainbow, etc.. However in this verse the word bow is not used in the context that you think. In that verse the word bow comes from the Greek root word toxon which means arrow dipped in poison.
Would the Strongs and the Greek lexicon deceive us and give us the wrong meaning of the word? There are no errors in the word. In Greek or Aramaic or Hebrew.
When I look up G5115 in Strongs it says “bow”. Then its says “III. τόξον tóxon, tox’-on; from the base of G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric):—bow.” I also googled toxon & greek Lexicon and it said the same thing. I am not seeing where it says “arrow dipped in poison”. Now it does says that toxon (G5115) comes from G5088, which means to bring forth, bear, produce (fruit from the seed)
1a) of a woman giving birth
1b) of the earth bringing forth its fruits
1c) metaph. to bear, bring forth
So I guess I just don’t see where you are seeing that definition. Can you please provide the exact source where it says that?
Rev 6:2 – White Horse Rider – Most Christians have been taught that this is the anti-christ.
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, Come. 2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat thereon had a bow (Zech 9:13-14); and there was given unto him a crown: and he came forth conquering (Greek: nikao 3528 – subdue, conquer, prevail, to get the victory) , and to conquer. (Rev 6:1-2)
13 For I have bent Judah for me (Judah is the bow), I have filled the bow with Ephraim (Gentile Church are the arrows); and I will stir up thy sons, O Zion (Heb 12:22), against thy sons, O Greece (the world), and will make thee as the sword of a mighty man. 14 And Jehovah shall be seen over them; and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning (Mt:24:27); and the Lord Jehovah will blow the trumpet, and will go with whirlwinds of the south. (Zech 9:13-14)
For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man. (Mt 24:27)
Not true. This is the man-child ministry birthed at the start of the tribulation. In fact, Rev 5:9 shows them reigning spiritually on the earth at the start of the tribulation. They base this on the verse that says that the devil can appear as an angel of light (as in deception) (2 Cor 11:14).
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, fashioning themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel of light. (2 Cor 11:13-14)
The Book of Revelation is given to John is in the Spirit. There is symbolism, but not deception here. This is the communication of God to the saints in Revelation, not the devil trying to deceive. No book written with the engineering of the Word can be written by a Saint in direct communication with the Lord would be penning a deception, but could be writing something hidden to be revealed. These are the same write horses in Rev 19:11,14 ridden by the saints at the conclusion of the Day of the Lord (expected in 2016-2017AD).
The White Horse Rider/Man-child ministry is the first judgment on the earth. Judgment always begins at the house of God (1 Pet 4:17). The reason is that what the Saints do with the pure Word given through the Man-child ministry has effects on the judgments that follow afterward and upon whom those judgments fall. Deut 11:26 – Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse – it is the same pure Word of God which brings both. Blessing if you will follow it. The curse if you will not. When Moses, a type of the man-child, appeared before Pharoah and told him the command of the Lord, each time Pharoah refused to follow the Word, judgment fell upon Egypt. Also, when Jesus came into the world, the greatest fulfillment of the man-child to date he said:
And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil.” (John 3:19)
This is very early in Jesus ministry. What you decide to do with those in the man-child ministry will have a huge effect on the trouble you will face going forward.
For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12)
The renewed Spirit instantly believes the Word from the Lord since it is from God – it is “born from above” (John 3:3 – Greek: Anothen 509 – from above, from the beginning, from the first). The unregenerate soul does not believe and must be won over:
9 receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. (1 Pet 1:9)
12 So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure. (Phil 2:12-13)
This is a spiritual division. The verse goes on to talk about dividing joints and marrow. What body is the sword of the Lord dividing? The body of Christ. The word divides between those that believe the full word and those that do not. One comes under a blessing, the other under a curse. And so it shall be coming up. We will all be tested on our ability to stand on God’s Word even in the face of what we see with our natural eyes before us (2 Cor 5:7 – for we walk by faith, not by sight).
The rider has a bow, but no arrows. The arrows have been sent forth already (Apostle means “one sent forth”) Who are the arrows? Zech 9:13 says I have bent Judah (as a bow) (Jesus is from tribe of Judah) for me, I have filled the bow with Ephraim (“fruitfulness of nations” Gen 48:19 – Gentile church).
Zech 9:14 goes on to say his arrow shall go forth (Apostle means “one sent forth”) as lightning (much like the lighting from East to West Mt 24:27 at the falling of the latter rain all over the world). Notice the lightning comes from the East (Prov 4:18 – path of righteous like rising Sun (Son) until no shadow). Apostles would have started in one of the other assignments prophet, teacher, evangelist, pastor, (Acts 13:1-4), but are then sent forth to get up God’s government in satellite churches around the world:
1 Now there were at Antioch, in the church that was there, prophets and teachers, Barnabas, and Symeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen the foster-brother of Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 And as they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 Then, when they had fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. 4 So they, being sent forth (Greek: ekpempo 1599 – to despatch, send away, send forth) by the Holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus. (Acts 13:1-4)
As arrows in the hand of a mighty man, So are the children of youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: Ps 127:4-5
So, in type, God (mighty man) also has His children (the saints) and they are likened to arrows.
So in totality, we have Apostles from the Gentile church sent forth in the power of Jesus. That is what the bow means and it is Jesus (Note: the crown on his head) on the white horse that has sent them. These first fruits man-child people are given the authority of Jesus Christ by being caught up to the throne in Rev 12:5.
When the white horse rider goes forth conquering (Greek: nikao 3528 – overcome, prevail, get the victory), it does not mean physical war. It is the same Greek word used in Rev 2:17 that talks about the overcomers getting the hidden manna. These are those who, by the Spirit of God, put to death the deeds of the flesh – they have overcome their flesh (Rom 8:13). This riding of the white horse is another allusion to the falling of the Latter rain which enables the saints to fully overcome their flesh. In Matthew 25:21,23, Jesus expressed the concept of God rewarding those who are faithful to overcome their flesh are made rulers over many things.
His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will set thee over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy lord. (Mt 25:21,23)
That some saints are made rulers over many things is lauded in Rev 5:9-10 as the angels worship the Lord that He purchased some from the Earth and caused them to reign upon the Earth.
9 And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain, and didst purchase (Greek: agorazo 59 – to purchase, buy, redeem) unto God with thy blood men of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation, 10 and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign (Greek: basileuo 936 – to rule, reign) upon earth. (Rev 5:9-10)
This is at the event of the opening of the first of the 7 seals before the other seals are
STRONGS Entry, (G5115) toxon -bow (weapon):- bow [1].
STRONGS Entry (G4735) Stephanos’ – woven crown, wreath, victory garland; of various shapes and various materials, leaves, twigs, flowers, even metal, as a sign of victory, honor, and in some contexts, authority: – crown [15], crowns [3].
WORD CENTRAL Meriam-Webster
Entry for intoxicate-
One entry found for intoxicate.
Main Entry: in·tox·i·cate
Pronunciation: in-primarystresstäk-sschwa-secondarystresskamacrt
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -cat·ed; -cat·ing
Etymology: from Latin intoxicatus, past participle of intoxicare “to poison,” from earlier in- “put into” and toxicum “poison,” from Greek toxikon “arrow poison,” from toxon “bow, arrow” –related to TOXIC, TOXIN
1 : to affect by alcohol or a drug especially to the point where physical and mental control is much reduced
2 : to excite to enthusiasm or frenzy
Word History The Greek word toxon means “bow” or “arrow.” From this came the Greek toxikon, meaning “a poison in which arrows are dipped.” Toxikon was borrowed into Latin as toxicum, which gave rise to the Latin verb intoxicare, “to poison.” The English word intoxicate comes from this Latin verb. Intoxicate originally meant “to poison” in English, but now it is almost never used with this meaning. It is related to the words toxic, meaning “poisonous,” and toxin, meaning “a poison.” Both of these words can also be traced to the Greek toxon.
http://wordcentral.com/cgi-bin/student?intoxicate
DICTIONARY.com
Entry for “crown” (note on its origin)
ORIGIN OF CORONA
First recorded in 1555–65; from Latin corōna “garland, crown” (see crown), from Greek korṓnē “crown, curved object”; akin to korōnís “curved, beaked,” kórax “crow, raven” (see crow1)
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/corona
Now, I’ve just included the entries from my copy of the Strongest STRONGS from about 20 years ago. Of them, I have no reason to doubt. As to the online entries.. I’ve just copied. If they are incorrect, I’d like confirmation.
I did know that “corona” was Latin.. didn’t know it was derived from the Greek. But I also didn’t know that the Greek word “korōnē” is NOT the word used in this passage (Revelation 6:2); or for that matter, anywhere in the New Testament where it translates as “crown”.
Also (and just for the sake of interest), I took some Koine at Missouri Baptist College (20 years ago) and I still have my copy of the New Testament in Greek.
I just checked Revelation 6:2 in my copy and the word there is:
τόξον/toxon (bow), and not τοξικών/toxikón (poison arrow).
Thank you Pete for all the great information! You have confirmed that the word used in Rev 6:2 is from the Greek τόξον/toxon (bow), and not τοξικών/toxikón (poison arrow), which is perfectly in line with my belief that the rider on the white horse is the Servant of God.
Hi Linda, Pete has graciously provided an answer! Pete has provided documentation that confirms that the word used in Rev 6:2 is from the Greek τόξον/toxon (bow), and not τοξικών/toxikón (poison arrow), which is perfectly in line with my belief that the rider on the white horse is the Servant of God.
I’ve studied the different interpretations of this, and believe that the rider on the white horse, sent out conquering and to conquer, was the Roman Empire, whose armies rode on white horses. The Historicist view shows each step in the Book of Revelation up until the present day. This site is a good place to start to learj about this interpretation http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/the-first-seal-of-revelation-6/ blessings all
The 1st Seal of revelation has been broken. This Seal is to usher in the Tribulation and ready the world for the Mark of the Beast. All 4 horses of the apocalypse bring sorrow to the earth, not tidings of good will. “And I saw, and behold a White Horse (Pharmakia, white is the color of medicine, doctors wear white gowns) and he that sat on him had a Bow (Greek meaning of Bow is Toxin, arrows dipped in poison, Corona Virus/Vaccine) and a Crown (Corona means Crown) was given him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer. This White Horse is delivering the venom across the world at this very moment thru a needle. This snake venom contains nanobot/quantum dot technology that self assembles inside the human body and thru Quantum computers/ 5G frequencies can be relocated anywhere in the body, most likely the right hand or forehead. The Mark of the Beast must be fully functional before the Antichrist is revealed. All who take this Covid poison needle (Stigma/to stick, to prick) sign a waiver, a covenant, that is signing their soul to Satan.
Please see my response to Linda above.
Johnny,
I am sorry to say this. Yes, I agree that the vaccines are going to kill people. See medical paper called “covid-19 vaccines and the risk of prion disease” which explains how the spiked proteins will cause problems in many people starting in 3-6 months from now and some docs say that people who receive these vaccines have about 3-5 years left to live as neuro-degenerative diseases develop and spread. And the vaccine sheds from one person to another. Researchers have been working on vaccines that spread like viruses from person to person.
Your interpretation of the white horse rider is completely wrong. He is a Jesus in a corporate body of people. He is given a crown which is the same meaning as the man-child being caught up to the throne (given throne authority by God Himself).
The messenger RNA causing genetic alterations in humans is the spiritual part of the Covid Jab. Creating a hybrid human is what happened pre-flood with Nephilim and Jesus warns that these days will be like the days of Noah. The other part of the poison is Hydrogel that contains nanobot/quantum dots and a host of other nasty components. These are programed to self assemble in the human body for one reason, to control the human body/mind thru quantum computers and 5G /6G frequencies . Once assembled inside the body, these nanobots can be located, thru the bloodstream to anywhere in the body, including the brain. The human host becomes trans human,. controlled by the Beast System. The Lion from the Tribe of Judah is the only one worthy to open the seals. The 4 horses of the apocalypse are released from the seals that Jesus Christ opens. He is releasing the horses for judgement on earth, He does not ride one of these horses. I know their are many opinions on who this white horse represents but time is running out and making those opinions invalid. The Beast System is here now, and those that deny it are under a strong delusion. The very elite will be deceived by the Mark.
The King James Bible translation states that Jesus tells His disciples, that IF IT WERE POSSIBLE these false Messiahs and prophets would fool (deceive) God’s elect” Matthew 24:24
This scripture would indicate that GOD’s Elect WERE NOT fooled. And those that are not under a delusion ARE NOT deceived.
My interpretation is that if it were not possible there would be no reason to share this warning.
I always wondered about the 144,000. Is it a literal number? When Revelations speaks of thousands upon thousand as multitudes, is it because they had no concept of millions, or billions, trillions? 144 is like 12 squared. So like the 12 tribes, and the 12 disciples, I believe it is how OT and NT connected with a band of 12 brothers, and as John saw future tense-today’s age, it was to the next power-or multiplied like the kingdom of God. Also, they “did not defile themselves with women.” We’re they eunuchs? Celibate? Or just 100% faithful husbands. Probably a rare find in this age, with all of the temptations of beautiful women, homosexuality,, gender confusion, provocative fashion, pornography plastic surgery, prostitution, internet hook ups, and the film industry. , They must be out there-that throng of perfectly faithful men. Somewhere, lol. It seems these are the things that hold our culture back the most, as I perceive our present day world, lust seems to be the deadliest of the seven deadly sins that motivates the moral compass South. That goes for us women too. The most criminal thinking women use seduction as bait, I once learned in counseling. But that is why this 144,000 are so rare, set apart and holy. Maybe 144,000 is literal as the LORD’s eyelids try the sons of men on the earth, that’s all he can find. It’s probably not too late to be counted with them if you’ve fallen short. Overcoming by the Blood of the Lamb is the only thing that makes us worthy, after all. We all, ike sheep have gone astray. There is none righteous, apart from Christ., no, not one. So to be counted amongst them, all that’s required is to repent and robe yourself in His Blood and righteousness. Shalom.
Yes I believe that the 144,000 is a literal number because it says in Rev 7:4 “And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:” Notice how in Rev 7:9 it says “After these things I looked and behold, a great multitude WHICH NO ONE COULD NUMBER…” So the great multitude is not the 144K because they could not be numbered, but the 144k could be numbered. I believe the 144K will be helping the great multitude during tribulation.
When it says they did not defile themselves with women, that is not referring to their sexual virginity as we think of it in the natural. It is referring to their “spiritual virginity”. That means that they are faithful to follow the Lord and not the idols of this world. So what I am saying is they could be someone who was sexually immoral before they were saved but they repented and followed after Jesus with their whole heart. Jesus became the most important thing in their life and doing God’s will became more important to them than doing what they wanted. They have counted the cost and willingly given up whatever they were asked to sacrifice.
I believe that the 144K will be helping to bring in the harvest of the “great multitude which no one could number” during the tribulation. Matthew 10:8 says “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give”.
Yes, Dana. I’m on the same page with you, as I was saying that Christ is our only hope for cleansing, and does 100% cleanse us from pre-conversion guilt. But we still have to die daily to our struggles. I do think this 144,000 is so set apart and has overcome these temptations every day in every way. There was a reason Christ said whoever lusts in his heart commits adultery and he who is without sin cast the first stone and everyone had to walk away. When he said if your eye or right hand offend you, cut them off I think we know what he was inferring. These 144,000 men are of another caliber than your average Christian man whose dish looks clean on the outside but his thought life betrays that perfect exterior. I’m just saying that in our culture it’s going to take a very rare, set apart person, because our world puts fierce temptation in our paths. The multitude and the 144,000 are two separate things. I was musing on the possibility that it may have meant more than 144k to get to the point that it was certainly going to be difficult to even find 144,000 on this planet who could be counted worthy to be candidates for that level of overcoming. Yet overcoming is our true hope, snd only by the Lamb who is worthy. Sorry if you misunderstood my word it it came across as confusing . I was wrestling it all out to come to the same conclusion as what you were saying. God bless.
Check out Michael Heisers recent podcast on the 144,000. He is very thorough! He is currently disecting various passages in Revelations as they pertain to the Old Testiment. Find it on NAKED BIBLE podcasts.
Awesome Revelation, Thank you for sharing. I agree. The Jews are not 144k, its Gods Elite, those sold out for Him that will be sealed in these last days, which means completely protected. Its the real rapture. Everyone else will have to endure the Tribulation.
Gods elect,love the verse ROM.2:28 also in Christ there is neither Jew or Greek, praise the Lord
I’m sorry Rachel. This is incorrect. There is no pre-trib rapture at all. It is 2595 days after the covenant with “the many’ is confirmed. We can debate who “the many” are but I submit it is those christians in the outer court of the Spiritual Temple, the star glory people who have no yet advanced to the moon glory or further to the Sun glory (see isa 30:25-26 and I Cor 15: 43-51). Jesus said the end would be like the days of Noah. The short equation for the end times is
1260 days (Church in wilderness rev 12) + 1335 Days (Dan 12) = 2595 days.
7 days (noah in the ark on earth) + 40 days and nights = 7 * 365 + 40 = 2595 days.
There are 3 rules of interpreting the word “day’ in scripture. 1 day = 1000 years when locating the millennium when the end comes (lots of 3s and 7s in scripture there (7th day since the first Adam, 3rd Day since the 2nd Adam),
Then for events within that millennium, 1 day = 1 year. Then when Jesus put “Mornings and Evenings” or “Days and Nights” the number cannot be expanded beyond the normal 24-hr day.
Go to UBM1.org. God led me to these people 17 years ago and i have never been sorry. Their teachings will clear up a HUGe amount of misunderstanding about the end times.
Gordon, can you please expound on this star, moon, and sun glory that you have been enlightened on based on Isaiah 30:25-26? You obviously must study scripture more than I do,, so I am curious about how you have received this revelation on three levels of enlightenment as it aligns with scripture, as it is new to me, something I have not heard before. . I was thinking this verse to mean the light on his people would be glorious and we would shine through even the darkness, as it would be light to us, but maybe you have a “next level” word and perhaps I am missing out on something. God bless.
Hi Carolanne, I cor 15 talks about the Star, Moon, and Sun glories. And in 2 Cor 3:18 talks about christians (sorry my caps key is having trouble so i will go without that) being transformed into the image of Jesus from glory to glory. Well what are those glories They are the star, moon and sun glories.
The star glory is a Christian initiate who is not mature in the Lord. He/she has not yet grown to surrender their old lives and still want some of their old life, their own accomplishments, their own glory, the praise of men, etc. In the night sky (literary allusion is a time of great darkness or evil) they are a very small light in the sky.
The moon is big in the sky, but has no light of its own, no glory of its own.. It is a dead rock. But it is a very effective reflector of the Suns light in the night sky (time of great evil). These are the saints that have gone through major sanctification and are largely dead to self and alive unto Jesus. This is why the woman in Rev 12 has the moon at her feet. Her position is the moon glory. Christians are referred to as women because, regardless of gender, we all receive a seed (the Word – word is Sperma in Matt 13 parable of the sower. Our duty in this life is to grow Jesus in our lives much like a woman grows a baby in the womb. It is a spiritual man that is being developed this time. the DNA of an entity in the spiritual realm is the Word. Jesus Words are Spirit and they are life.
The sun glory is Jesus. Malachi 4 calls Jesus the Sun of righteousness. We do not worship the Sun, itself. it is a symbol of Jesus. (By the way, the order of planets tells have some messages. From pluto in to earth, it marks the 7 different millennia of this 7,000 epoch we are in (note: 2nd planet in is Neptune for the flood, 5th planet in is Jupiter, the king planet for the period started by Jesus manifestation on earth 2000 years ago). One message is Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth – Jesus is the messenger of love to the earth.
Now, before the beginning of the tribulation period the latter rain falls and it brings forth the man-child (Rev 12) which is Jesus walking in a corporate body of people.
This is why Isa 30:25-26. Vs. 25 talks about there being christians that are the streams of living water in every kingdom in the day (millennium) that I make when the towers fall. We had towers fall on Sept 11, 2001, at the very start of the 7th day/7th millennium..
Verse 26 goes on to declare that the moon glory saints shall shine like Jesus for 7 days (7 years of the tribulation period). This is because of the latter rain. We do not go to heaven during the tribulation period. Jesus is coming here to stand and feed his flock.
I hope this helps people understand what is about to happen better.
The tribulation period for the saints on the earth will be one of the worst times in the physical realms, but one of the best times for the saints in the spiritual sense. No Christians have walked in this much of God’s power before ever. We will do things for and use the gifts so powerfully in ways we never imagined before.
I am not always on the z3 site but I am happy to answer questions people ask. I hghly recommend downloading many of the resources, bible studies, documents, e-books, from UBM1.org. David Eells is one of the best symbolic expositors of the Word I have
ever heard.
As 2 examples from the Old Testament that demonstrate the Star, moon, and Sun glories, consider Joseph and David.
Joseph summary: has dream his brothers bow down to him. Nowhere in that dream is included the following 13 years of slavery and imprisonment to get Joseph’s character and soul ready to faithfully be the leader that his brothers bow down to. He had to go through the moon glory stage and be a little nothing for a long time before he was ready for God to exalt him properly to his position as #2 in egypt.
David: announced that he will king over israel. Samuel never mentioned the 16 years of living in caves running from Saul to get him ready to be a proper king of Israel. He had 16 years of moon glory dead rock stage before he was ready to be exalted to king of Israel.
Thank you for sharing more of what you had meant by these levels of glories,that I had not heard of before, Gordon. There is much to ponder and pray over. I hadn’t heard of the levels of glories before, so I appreciate your being patient with me while you gave me better understanding of these mysteries that were revealed to you. God bless.
I have had dreams of this latter rain, Holy Spirit had also shown me it will be the worst of times and the best of times.
There is a common thread among the church that all receive the same revelations and anyone who knows something more must be some gnostic or similar. I am very far from that. I am an engineer and businessman, hardlly one to make it up as I go along. I suppose many on this site will say I have to go to Seminary. or I have to agree with other pastors. No I don’t. I have believe these verses:
But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you. (John 14:26)
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come. (John 16:13)
Consider what I say; for the Lord shall give thee understanding in all things. (2 Timothy 2:7)
And as for you, the anointing which ye received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any one teach you; but as his anointing teacheth you; concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, ye abide in him. (1 John 2:27)
Oh how love I thy law! It is my meditation all the day. Thy commandments make me wiser than mine enemies; For they are ever with me. I have more understanding than all my teachers; For thy testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the aged, Because I have kept thy precepts. I have refrained my feet from every evil way, That I might observe thy word. I have not turned aside from thine ordinances; For thou hast taught me. How sweet are thy words unto my taste! Yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth! Through thy precepts I get understanding: Therefore I hate every false way. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, And light unto my path. (Psalm 119:97-105)
Age should speak; advanced years should teach wisdom. But it is the Spirit in a man, the breath of the Almighty, that gives him understanding. It is not only the old who are wise, not only the aged who understand what is right. (Job 32:7-9)
Remember, in John 7:15 “The Jews therefore marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?”
Jesus never went to any formal Biblical education
Well, you say, that was Jesus. Who is it that lives in you?
(Gal 2:20 – it is no longer I that live, but Christ that lives in me).
If any man willeth to do his will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of God, or whether I speak from myself. (John 7:17)
12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is from God; that we might know the things that were freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Spirit teacheth; combining spiritual things with spiritual words. 14 Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged. (1 Cor 2:12-14)
But god clearly hid things in the bible. He even spoke of the Hidden Manna. I have a gifting in literary symbolism that I even won some medal in high school for, but I had no idea how to use it until I received an anointing and God led me ultimately to Unleavened Bread Ministries and bouncing around and asking God who I should learn from . That was most of the year 2004. And then I saw on UBM1.org the same dreams I had had and what they meant and i knew then I had found the right place.
God does hide things in His Word:
Now these things happened unto them by way of example (Greek: tupos – shape, figure, type, form, manner, pattern); and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come. (1 Cor 10:11)
I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things hidden from the foundation of the world. (Ps 78:2, Mt 13:35)
And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parables. And he said unto them, Unto you is given the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all things are done in parables: that seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest haply they should turn again, and it should be forgiven them. (Mark 4:10-13)
And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it; and without a parable spake he not unto them: but privately to his own disciples he expounded all things. (Mark 4:33-34)
These things have I spoken unto you in dark sayings: the hour cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in dark sayings, but shall tell you plainly of the Father. (John 16:25-26)
It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter. (Prov 25:2)
At that season Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou didst hide these things from the wise and understanding, and didst reveal them unto babes (Mt 11:25, Lk 10:21)
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: (Dan 12:4)
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel; for the words are shut up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be refined; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand; but they that are wise shall understand. (Dan 12:9-10)
To him that overcometh, to him will I give of the hidden manna. (Rev 2:17)
I learned these things because I had a sense from the Lord that I was not getting the whole truth from the churches. and I ASKED HIM TO SHOW ME. And God answered my prayer. That’s it There is nothing special about me. I have been made nothing to this world to fulfill my role in the end times. Given what sins I had done I am happy to have any role at all.
What you are saying violates the words of Jesus:
Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
I know everyone quotes the “no one knows the day or the hour” quotes Mark 13:32, And I have not quoted either day nor hour. The problem is that the church insists that the word says that you will know absolutely nothing about the timing. According to them, it could be another 3-4 thousand years before Jesus return.
Did you know in the Hebrew culture of Jesus day, they were on the luni-solar calendar, you cannot reliably say “i will see you in 21 days on the 15th of next month”? It’s because each month is declared by the priest in Jerusalem calling it after sighting the new moon. That means lengths of months can vary.
Jesus used a well-known uncertainty in calendars to stop further questioning. He did not want to say, but the 2000 year gap is all over the old Testament and in the parable of the good samaritan. (He gave the inkeeper 2 days wages, not 1, not 3, not 4). When a parable has extra detail that is not necessary for the general storyline to move ahead., there is always a good reason for it. The word could have said “some money’ but it didn’t.
Also, why is it that in Joshua, when the people crossed the Jordan, that the Ark of the Covenant went first, the water stopped, and the rest of the people followed by about 2000 cubits? Why 2000 cubits? What do they represent? Notie it is not 3000 cubits, 5000 cubits, or 2200 cubits. They represent the 2000 year delay between Jesus, who keeps our covenant going to the promised land and the rest of us going there (now).
‘Deep calls unto deep at the sound of thy waterfalls’
When we are called to launch out into the deep – into the deeper meanings/understandings of the Word (In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God . He was in the beginning with God) should we question what we are hearing or should we question what we’ve been lead to believe for the past 2000 years ( what I’m referring to here is from the scripture) ‘…and while the bridegroom delayed His return, they (the wise virgins PLUS the foolish ones) they all slept’ !!! Don’t gloss over that last part too quickly as both you and I have been fed sooo many things by deceptive (and deceived ) pastors and teachers prior to the breaking of these first of the 7 seals of revelation that we do not want to flippantly judge what we’re hearing as being contradictory (or anti biblical) based upon our beliefs and belief systems which were laid while we were groggy and sleeping !?!
I too once believed that the constellations and/or astronomy ( notice I did Not use the word ‘astrology’ here and for a reason – that word has much negative connotation…however, God our Father placed the sun, moon and stars up there for a reason – signs and seasons, etc…. ). I have learned to look once again at the things I eschewed as evil or unbiblical with a renewed interest now ( I’m sure we’re all familiar with Jonathan Cahn’s books, THE HARBINGER & THE HARBINGER II ? ) There has been a concerted effort by satan’ to place us under this spell of fear of the stars and/or constellations (via astrology not astronomy but we get those mixed up in our comprehension of the words) and now we’re waking up
Selah my wise and awakened fellow virgin ones
Hi Thomas,
Yes, It seems Satan tried to twist in meaning and pervert everything God put in place as signs for us of His ways. I agree that we must be very careful and no I agree that astrology is absolutely unholy divination and should not even be read or heard.
There is another syndrome which is preventing people from really considering all of what God has put in place for us. it is this issue of deciding on an issue too soon and without full regard for the possibilities. We see it in the cancel culture of modern day. Once a trigger word is said, there is no further discussion of what is meant but complete dismissal and disregard of a subject further.
The Church has a huge cancel culture and many trigger words now such that you mention some terms: the law, the rapture, replacement theology, predestination, what the particular denominations think, full baptism vs sprinkling. you mention some of these phrases in a conversation and everyone “knows’ the rest of the song so they finish your sentences. Every one of these buckets of theology have some truth and some false in how they are used today as do ALL denominations. It is so difficult to just discuss what does God’s Word say. I have less regard for what some pastors told you it said. I want to know what God said.
Because people have regarded other pastors words and not been willing to look again at that which they considered to be ‘settled science’ (so to speak) the church cannot self-correct or self-reform because it’s people have “seen it all before”.
So many seem vaccinated with placebos that they can no longer receive the truth anymore. But they do have their isms. And they think their isms will set them free.
This is why Jesus said that He Himself would stand and feed His flock in the last days.
Yes I agree
And I like your analogy of being vaccinated with placebos – we’ve become so full of ourselves that we think we know something or where someone’s going with a conversation and we (mentally) shut them off before they finish the sentence… ‘knowledge puffs up but love edifies’. (however) when the perfect comes we shall know even as we have been known – – – I believe that ‘lust of flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life’ have tempted us to put ourselves up on a pedestal (mentally) and (if not also erecting a statue or other idol whether it’s our image or the image of so-and-so’s church) and we hide behind the ministry of a man rather than going directly to Jesus for His Mind and His Understanding on a subject – I like and appreciate what you said about Jesus standing and feeding His flock in these last days !!!🤗. The only other time I’ve read that Jesus ‘STOOD UP’ was when Stephen was martyred – Act 7:55 – “But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God”
One question I’ve been wondering about is : When ‘all knowledge ceases’ will that be a new ?way of thinking? or, ?the end of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? or ?’eye has not seen nor ear heard nor yet has it entered the hearts of men all the things the Lord has for those who love Him?
This is New age talk. Be careful what you believe.
Nothing wrong with the scriptures you quoted, but your interpretation sounds new age. The new ages use the words enlightening and mental awakening etc.
Linda, with all due respect, read my reply to ‘Just Another Brother’ above – there are some things which may add to your understanding of where we all are on awakening to the newness of ( really everything which we thought we knew before and now are re-evaluating since we were awakened at the midnight hour) * . Selah and blessings, Thomas
* Mat 25:5 – While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 – And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
I didnt say their is any kind of Pre Trib rapture. I dont believe in a rapture. I only believe Gods elite will be supernaturally protected.
I agree with Rachel,144k.are Gods elect during a period of time in great tribulation.I’m of the the persuasion at this time that they are part of the taking away and return to the earth with their resurrection bodies.
Then how do you explain Rev 7:5-8.?The Bible says 12,000 will come out of each tribe and names the tribes.
Amen Barabara!
Hi Barbara,
Sorry, I missed this question earlier. Rachel is correct. The 144K, which are described in Rev 7:5-8, are God’s servants, his First-fruits, those who will do great exploits in the last days. Now Rev 7:5-8 describes them as Jews from the 12 tribes of Israel.
Please understand that God’s definition of a Jew is different from man’s definition of a Jew. God’s definition of a Jew is in Roman 2:28:
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
So the thing that qualifies these people to be “jews” as described in Rev 7 is their heart condition. It has nothing to do with their geographic location. These 144K are completely sold out to God. They have circumsized their hearts and doing God’s will is the most important thing in their life. They have left homes, families, jobs, loved ones to chase after Jesus. They are truly “living sacrifices”. So that means they could be any gender, or sex, or nationality, or race. It’s their heart condition that counts.
So when it says they come from the 12 tribes of Israel, I believe these are spiritual groups that Jesus puts them into spiritually. So the sold-out ones are anointed by God and placed spiritually into one of these 12 tribes.
God’s definition of things is often very different from man’s because His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
I agree with Linda’s post from today. She is right , no one knows the answers to the things we are debating. It is good we are studying the Bible, but we need to recognize our limitations. Nothing was as people expected in Jesus first coming, and it won’t be this time either. They expected a conquering King.
I imagine most on here are experiencing dreams, visions or words. That is why we would seek a sight like this and feel it is validated. But we must be careful. Not every vision or dream is from God. And even if it is, we might misinterpret it. A good example of this, is the dreams about the antichrist. People have reported dreams about Obama and Macron . I could make a good argument
for it being either. I don’t know who is right, but I know it can’t be both.
I pray daily for discernment.
Here is one more scripture that supports what I said above . It’s Galatians 3:28: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male or female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” That passage along with Romans 2:28 both support the idea that the “Jews” described in Rev 7 can be of any gender, race, sex.
So once more, it is the person’s heart condition that will qualify or disqualify him as a “Jew” as described in Rev 7. So when you see the Servants of God/Rev 7 “Jews”/First fruits/144k (all the same thing), they may be male or female, young or old, black or white or brown, etc. Hope this makes sense. I realize now that I needed to provide a lot more explanation in my post. Just citing Romans 2:28 just was not enough detail.
The Bible does not say they are Jews. It says they are from the 12 Tribes of Israel. It is very specific.
Yes, Rev 7 does say that they are from the 12 Tribes of Israel, which refers to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who were Jews/Israelites. Some bibles have a caption above Rev 7 with verbiage pertaining to Jews. Kathy’s bible (my friend) had that verbiage. None of my bibles have that verbiage.
The point I’m trying to make is that they are from the 12 tribes of Israel. Your conjecture, dismisses this. What you say in your original article and in your response to me conflicts with the Bible. That’s a pretty big deal. I know James stresses that everything should line up with the Bible. I don’t want to be argumentative,
Please offer scripture to support your view. You have received a lot of negative votes and that is rare on here. So I think others would like a more Biblical explanation, too. Thank you.
Supporting Scriptures:
ACTS 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35But in every nation he that fears him, and works righteousness, is accepted with him.
ACTS 11:17-18 If then God gave them the same gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; who was I, that I could withstand God? 18When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then has God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
ROMANS 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
GALATIANS 3: 26 For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.29AND IF YOU ARE CHRIST’S, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM’S DESCENDANTS, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.
My response to the negative feedback:
According to US COVID-19 Vaccine Progress Tracker | Vaccinations by State | USAFacts 50% of Americans have received at least one dose of the jab. That statistic shows that people are easily deceived since they actually think the jab will help them and they believe in the “science”. So just because large numbers of people hold a certain belief, that does not mean that belief is true.
Likewise, just because many people have expressed negative votes on my story does not negate its veracity. All that matters is the TRUTH. And it is the Word of God that is the plumb line against which we can gauge all truth.
Also I would like to point out that the TRUE prophets of God in the Bible were heavily excoriated and often it was large numbers of people who came against them. One example is Elijah versus the 450 prophets of Baal. (1 Kings 18).
Another is Micaiah. Remember how 400 prophets told the king of Israel to fight against Ramoth at Gilead. Then they consulted Micaiah, who was a true prophet of God. He told the king of Israel that a lying spirit had come forth in the mouth of all his prophets to convince him to fight. (1 Kings 22) And he advised the king to not do it. The king did not listen to truth and he paid with his life.
The Bible says they come out of the 12 tribes of Jews. Read Rev. 7:5-8. These verses give the breakdown. Many believe the 144,000 along with the 2 witnesses will be here to witness to the Jews. The Church age will be over and God will be dealing with the Jews. Israel will be saved. Of course, others will be saved during this time too.
I am not one to “beat a dead horse” but after reading the many interpretations of the white horse of Revelation I will leave this thread by saying “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink”. The white horse that is giving everyone the fits, is hidden in plain sight. Maybe John the Revelator should have called it the Invisible Horse! lol
Johnny- I’m not sure if it is the virus or the vaccine, but I agree with your reasoning. The Corona virus is named for and looks like a crown. It certainly conquered those on earth for a while. It led to many getting vaccinated with whatever consequences come from that.
So maybe the first seal is broken, I don’t know. But the virus and subsequent vaccines seem to fit the description better than any other theory at this time.
Jesus chose Twelve Apostles because they represent the Twelve Tribes of Israel, thus showing a link between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.
You are totally correct in your view of the first seal and that is how Revelation 14 starts out as well. The LORD ( judges (or considers) the House of the LORD first. There is an appointed time for judging the wicked but God wants to save everyone who has a heart for God so that no one perishes. This “Man Child” will lead the Body of Christ through the tribulation. Thanks for your article.
Yes, Unleavened Bread Ministries (ubm1.org) has been teaching this about the white Horse Rider, the man-child of Rev 12 & John 16:21 for 17 years or more. The fall of the latter rain empowers these people to have Jesus walk in them fully. Jesus gave up His mortal body to live in a corporate body of people on earth. you can see in Isa 53, how He is the arm of the Lord and cut off after 62 weeks, but His life is prolonged in His hand (that’s us. When Jesus telling His disciples that He is the vine and they are the branches, it is a very similar analogy.
Hi Gordon, I tried to access ubm1.org and am getting error messages like “Security threat detected” or “the security for this site is not secure”. I tried different search engines and same result. Do you by any chance have an IP address for that site? I am definitely interested in checking it out. Thanks!
https://ubm1.org/
Its working fine for me
I had same problem. Had to use the Brave browser and disable any anti-virus extensions. UBM is getting reported as a Physhing site. Seems like someone wants it blocked.
Thanks Tim. I will try that.
Thanks Thomas. I agree with you.
This is a glorious time – sort of like the Tale of Two Cities- the best of times – the worst of times. Psalm 23 is not about uncle Fred’s funeral – It is the LORD leading His people through the tribulation and the “Man Child” is the “rod and staff” mentioned in this Psalm. So exciting as we partake in the divine nature and take authority and help to bring all things under our feet using the Bible as our sword and mixing faith with our declarations and proclamations. (Our feet being synonymous with Christ’s feet)
Thomas, Amen brother. To be a partaker of the divine nature is a privilege that I have taken for granted years ago. Now, it is the most precious of value in this life.