He was not from the west coast, he was born In New York and grew up in Baltimore. He got involved in gang culture later in life after he was already famous and died because he was trying to represent his blood set by fighting crips in a casino. The crips took revenge on him by shooting up his BMW.
I find his gang activity on par with tekashi 69. They both did not grow up involved with gangs but started to claim they were members when they were older in order to look tough.
He was also a Ballet Dancer.
And?
And what? Its pretty self explanatory.
"Toxic masculinity"
Where did you get that from? I only said he was a ballet dancer, I never said that was a bad thing, thats on you wanting to virtue signal so much you just jump on your assumptions.
Do better.
Tupac, while an extremely talented artist, is one of the most overrated musicians of all time. But only after his death, where his halfwit fans launched him into a bizarre demigod status.
They’ll legit use his words like bible quotes(with all the misspellings and shit grammar included) And totally believe he faked his death and will be returning to ... ? Do something incredible in his 70s, or something.
It's different timing as the cause ,with different decades of music come different perspective images for example biggie and Tupac's era it was the grand image to be a "rich dangerous gangster" type hence why biggie did the same as Tupac Biggie never "kicked in the door waving a 44" but he made that his image now in the 2020's artists have mostly learned that image is old and outdated and only reserved for the few who are about that life for example Freddie Gibbs,Lil Durk etc now instead of fake gangsters we now have fake rich loverboy rappers who arguably have a more dense moody and atmospheric vibe to their music anyways
Predominantly black people glorify that life of "bitches, gold chains and teeth, jail time, crimes, violence" etc. It's so so so incredibly stupid and moronic. I have heard with my own ears blacks calling other blacks "whitewashed traitors" because they DARED have a decent job, live a normal life and stayed away from all the bullshit of being "gAnGsTa". I was 23 when I heard my (black) Uni classmate ask my (also black) friend why she speaks like that outside of class. When she asked when he meant, he says "Bitch, like a damn white".
If they stopped listening and buying all this bullshit music that speaks like that, then they'll stop making it. There is a market so they keep producing it. There is so much awesome rap/hip hop etc out there, with lyrics that actually matter and give a good message instead of this "gAnGsTa" crap.
Fans and people like you are the reason why there is so many people in jail. You can't be a gangsta rapper without living that life. If you did not do certain crimes, you can't rap about them. You are not tough, you are not real. Glorifying the criminal lifestyle.
Most of these rappers are full of shit, products of powerful marketing machines who push the rappers out there to sell records.
How are fans the reason they're in jail. I'd assume they go to jail because they do crimes but that's just me.
You want to hear rappers rap about things they actually did. They lived that life. If they did not live that life and still rap about it - you call them phonies.
So we’re gatekeeping rap now? And supporting criminals because they made music
Are you annoyed when they rap about stuff they did not do or when they make themselves look tougher than they are in reality? If so, you are part of the problem.
Personally I think lyrics come second to melody and overall quality of the song, I don’t care for them
Not glorifying it. Just confused by it. He was already selling records before he claimed gang affiliation and most a lot of his music had a socially conscious theme.
I understand that 99% of the gangster rap is fake, but why would you surround your self with gang members when you are already established. He punched a crip in a casino to show the blood members how down he was to the set and it cost him his life.
To keep appearances up. Gangsta rap was huge back then.
You do realize that you can rap about other things
If I’m not mistaken, the only member of NWA who was originally gang-affiliated was Eazy E.
Cube was taking drafting classes at one point. I’d hardly call that brother a phony.
And let’s not forget that both of Tupac’s parents were Blank Panthers. That gives him more credibility in my opinion.
Agree with what you are saying. I am confused why a grown man would join a gang later in life after already selling tons of records.
His parents being in the black panthers gives him credibility and a lot of early music had was socially conscious, but he somewhat abandoned it to make gangster rap.
Ha! No argument there. Why would a grown man join a gang after he achieves success without a gang? I have no clue.
Let’s not forget that Tupac was also a member of Digital Underground as well. So he was hanging out with Humpty and performed on that song “Kiss You Back”.
Tupac was kinda all over the place in the beginning, probably trying to find his way and make money.
And all the biggest acts in Music are from Canada. Drake, Bieber,The Weeknd. Travis Scott grew up in the Houston Suburbs. Only guy id say really grew up that way and is a grammy winner recently would be K.Dot (Kendrick Lamar)
Most the artists you listed do not claim to be gangster or pretend to have gang affiliation.
The point is your post doesnt make sense when you know peoples backgrounds. Celebs say and do anything for fame. Tupac wasnt any different then the artists today. He was just before his time. He was a poet and went to great schools during his upbringing. He met Suge Knight and Deathrow records changed him and he created this fake persona..like Drake after joining Young Money. Point is KDot is a blood from Cali and that will never change. Tupac was a kid from Harlem who ended up in Cali.
To clarify, I am confused why a grown man that was an established artist would start to claim he was in a gang later in life.
I understand. He is claiming it though because he was never "real" thats the point im trying to make. As most celebs it was all a facade to gain more attention and to earn street credibility as a gangster rapper.
I agree that most celebrities are fake. The night of the Tyson fight he punched a member of the crips in a casino and they shot up his car. This doesn’t seem fake. He lost his life trying to be someone he was not.
If anything Tupac should have evolved into what K.Dot is in his own manor and flavour.
Always fun to see suburban white dudes on Reddit act like they know a lick about hip-hop and pretend as if their opinion even matters as if they’re a part of the culture.
So joining a gang is part of the culture? Get the fuck out of here.
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Tupac witnessed 2 cops beating up a homeless man and he took out his gun and started shooting at them, one of the cops was shot in the ass. He was literally willing to murder two cops just to save a stranger he had never met before.
He was shot 5 times, once in the head, and came out of the hospital in a wheelchair mocking his shooters. He literally dared them to try again.
Even on the day he was fatally shot, the first responder stated that Tupac refused to snitch. He simply told the officer “Fuck you” after the officer asked Tupac who shot him.
Tupac was a lot of things, but he was not a phony. He had more balls than anyone you think is a “real gangster”
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