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Restoration of Union CB

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Hi guys, two questions regarding Restoration of Union CB. Situation is I am playing as Spain and already completed Mission Spanish Netherlands giving me the CB on England an Austria. Also I already used it to restore with England. Questions:

England has a Mission two get Restoration of Union CB on France and hovering over the description i feel, that i could force the requirements to get met. Can I get the CB via Engalnds Mission for myself?
My CB towards Austria seems to be gone (I cannot declare right now). Can anybody explain why? My suggestions:
1. Austrias heir has strong claim.
2. Currently there is no border between me and them.
3. It's a bug because i am on 1.31.3

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grotaclas2

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you can't use the restoration of union CBs of your subjects
d. the cb is only valid for 25 years and these are over
e. you didn't get the CB in the first place, because Austria was not an indpendent christian monarchy at the moment when you finished the mission. In that case you should have gotten permanent claims on the areas Tirol, Austria Proper and Inner Austria
f. you can't declare any war on Austria, because something is blocking you(e.g. you are allied, you guarantee them, they are on your side in a war, they are the emperor and you are at war with an HRE member)

dr-142857

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Are you sure about d? That would be f*cked as the pending league war is my reason to not declare so far. The mouseover doesn’t say the cb is time limited and i also didn’t recieve the icon warning me. E and F aren’t possible. I know i got the cb and also don’t have those claims. I’m not allied, not in the hre and we are both not guaranteeing each other.

grotaclas2

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Yes, I'm sure about that. You can see that in the wiki as well: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Spanish_missions#Spanish_Netherlands

Which mouseover doesn't say that the CB is limited? The effect mouseover of the mission never says that. But the tooltip for the CB in your diplomacy interface and the casus belli list in the ledger should give the expiration date.

You should get the notification icon with the warning for the expiration of the CB unless you deactivated it. But for me it is relatively easy to miss, because I'm conditioned to ignore it, because it is almost always useless.

Edit: all restoration of union CBs are time limited, but the time is not the same for all missions

dr-142857

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I checked it ingame, you are probably right though i cannot guarantee 25 years have passed.

However: In the wiki it says the same mission gives permanent claims on holland etc. Those have disappeared as well (I remember also clicking it away). Do you know, why this has happened?

grotaclas2

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This is an error in the wiki. The claims on North Brabant, Frisia and Holland are not permanent. If you don't have them anymore, it is another indication that 25 years have passed. I'll correct the wiki

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Otosaga

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you can't use the restoration of union CBs of your subjects

But they should get free full cores on France. If you have a PU subject who has a PU mission, the mission gives cores instead IIRC. This is why getting Provence in PU is OP (Naples, Aragon, Hungary)

grotaclas2

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But they do get free full cores on France instead. If you have a PU subject who has a PU mission, the mission always gives cores instead.

This is wrong. Almost all PU mission give permanent claims if they can't give the CB. The provencal mission The Claims of King René is the exception as it gives cores. But even the other provencal missions give permanent claims and not cores.