The future monarchs of Europe
Simultaneously both more and fewer royal families left in Europe than I expected
There are a few others who are still around, but not ruling anymore (Greece and Romania come to mind, but there's at least half a dozen more). Plus Monaco and Liechtenstein at least, which are principalities. And the descendants of the guy who was [selected as the King of Finland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Finland_(1918)) in 1918 are still around, but make no claim to the title.
Nearly all the german states ex-ruling housese are around as well. Hohenzollern and so on. Bavaria even wanted to have it's King back after WWII, while beeing part of a german republic. That would have been fun.
Is there still any blood lines of royalty from the Austrian- Hungarian empire left?
There's a Habsburg racecar driver, I think.
Yes, racing in GP3
There are quite a few around. But they, like all nobility, were stripped of all titles. Descendants of the house Habsburg are still not allowed to run for president in Austria. That being said, as far as I know they are still stupid rich and doing okay.
Yep,but they don’t have any significance outside of Boulevard magazines
Some are still influental in Ban-king and finances, as well some EU structures. But all obtained by their personal merit then a inherited one.
That would be an interesting construct that as far as I know has never really existed. Like a regional monarch within a federal republic.
There are some African republics that have regional/tribal kings that are officially recognized.
Yeah also in France we have a couple old dude of two different families both claiming to be the rightful heir to the throne and arguing that it wouldn't hurt to imitate the British government.
I remember reading a story in around 2013 where one heir was retarded and his brother was trying to move above him in inheritance through the courts to be the King of France
He wasn't retarded, he was just locked in an iron mask.
The guy from Spain is actually hilarious. He can't speak proper french and claim to be our king. "Yé soui l'héritier léguitimé du Royoumé dé Francé." WTF man
Dude, so many countries were ruled by foreign kings and queens who didn't speak a word of their people's language, that he may as well have the best claim.
There are still many descendants of Wilhelm II and I believe Karl von Habsburg is the current head of the Habsburgs.
Yeah there are loads of descendants to old monarchs from countries that are no longer monarchies. I am pretty sure both italy and germany have a lot of them from all of the different regions before they turned into a unified nation.
In Portugal our legal heir has the title of “King of Portugal”, but he isn’t. He has 3 kids, and he’s called Duarte Pio.
If you count the multiple principalities you can add a few more. And the Pope, technically.
I mean you can also add significant claimants to either defunct dynasties or defunct crowns to extend it to the max.
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Boy George is going to be King?
Do you really want to hurt the King? Do you really want to make him cry?
I'm a man without conviction. I'm a man who doesn't know.
great-granny Liz. Diana would be his granny.
Bloody hell... It's weird thinking of what Diana would look like as an old lady, she'd have been 57 this year.
She’d still be beautiful.
IN OUR HEARTS ♡
But when she's gone, she's gone forever.
There's probably some commonwealth countries that whill switch to republic once she's no longer here to tie it all together.
There are 32 republics in the Commonwealth already.
As for leader of the Commonwealth, they've already elected Charles to lead if the Queen dies.
if the Queen dies
Yeah, I'm not so sure anymore, either.
I've heard that smoking kills, maybe she should try that?
Unanimously, no less.
Should be noted that the title of leader of the commonwealth means absolutely nothing. Still, there are 16 Commonwealth Realms, of which like 5 matter.
And they are all related to each other as well
Never forget the family tree of King Charles II:
That's anything but a tree.
Family circle
what the fuck
Jesus Christ it's my sister in law.
The immortal R Crumb
THE ARISTOCRATS!!
Am I on a list now?
Gotta keep the bloodlines pure. If you breed out of the family you commit Habsburgecide
It's a family shrub.
Hij die het bloed puur wil houwen, zal met zijner tante moeten trouwen!
It's already fucking processed into furniture.
I was thinking it looked like one of those dried tumbleweeds rolling through the deserts of Texas.
Pff, amateur... Look at Cleopatra's family tree!
The wikipedia entry is hilariously confusing. It's not known if Cleopatra's mother married her brother (Ptolemy XII) or her cousin (Ptolemy IX).
Either way, it seems like, instead of most normal people who have 32 great-great-great grand parents, Cleopatra VII effectively had 2.
thats a fucking circle
dosnt help that they have about 3 names to share in the entire family
The technology to create names was very undeveloped back then, so names were in short supply and had to be used until they wore out completely.
And Julius Ceasar looked at that and thought "Damn I gotta get me some inbred Egyptian ass"
Wasn't it Mark Antony?
It was both
Ptolemy 9 made children with both his sisters, wtf...
And ptolemy 10 fucked the daughter of his sister and brother...
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So she has 1 set of great grandparents, as opposed to the average 4, and since there is so much inbreeding between different generations, her great-grandparents are also her great-great-great-great-grandparents... nice
This is fucked up!
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Not sure. Though we definitely can give them credit for no parents producing new kids with their own children ;)
Charles himself suffered ill-health throughout his life; he has been described as "short, lame, epileptic, senile and completely bald before 35, always on the verge of death but repeatedly baffling Christendom by continuing to live."
Sounds like he was really adored
"Man, when is he gonna die already?"
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I like playing RPGs. I don't know why I've never seen this, though.
I'm an Elf Warlock on inbred level 5.
Its when you need that perfect IV pokemon. 6times inbred via the same Ditto.
"He baffled christianity by continuing to live"
Never forget that is a portrait and not a picture. That was painted by someone that was confident enough that after showing that to the king, he would be pleased and not insulted, imagine how bad it was in real life.
He wasn't even able to chew
I don't think the artist would have had too much to worry about with Charles II, poor fellow was totally mentally incapable so probably didn't understand it enough to BE insulted.
You probably are right, the king was the last person he had to worry about. Still, I am pretty sure that portrait is not close to reality
I'm sure they were just selectively breeding for the most magnificent chin.
Secretly they were trying to produce the crimson chin
You may not like it but Charles II is what peak Habsburg looks like.
is this the guy that defied Christendom by continuing to live?
He made it to level 5?! Awesome!
ROLL TIDE
family tree spiderweb
And to think, most of these portraits of royalty at the time were meant to be flattering while still being (somewhat) accurate. So if someone is bad-looking in a painting, guaranteed he was one really ugly motherfucker in real life.
Eh, it's just like an another long game of r/CrusaderKings
Inspired by this comment, I wrote a program to find the kin relationships between people, powered by Wikidata. Here's the results.
Prince George and Princess Estelle are fifth cousins once removed, through Queen Victoria.
Prince George and Princess Leonor are fourth cousins, through George I of Greece.
Prince George and Prince Christian are fifth cousins, through Christian IX of Denmark.
Prince George and Princess Ingrid are fourth cousins once removed, through Edward VII.
Prince George and Princess Amalia are sixth cousins once removed, through Paul I of Russia.
Prince George and Princess Elisabeth are fifth cousins, through Christian IX of Denmark.
Princess Estelle and Princess Leonor are fifth cousins, through Queen Victoria.
Princess Estelle and Prince Christian are third cousins, through Gustaf VI Adolf of Sweden.
Princess Estelle and Princess Ingrid are fourth cousins once removed, through Oscar II of Sweden.
Princess Estelle and Princess Amalia are fifth cousins, through George Victor, Prince of Waldeck and Pyrmont.
Princess Estelle and Princess Elisabeth are fourth cousins once removed, through Oscar II of Sweden.
Princess Leonor and Prince Christian are fifth cousins, through Queen Victoria.
Princess Leonor and Princess Ingrid are fifth cousins, through Queen Victoria.
Princess Leonor and Princess Amalia are sixth cousins, through Frederick Louis, Hereditary Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.
Princess Leonor and Princess Elisabeth are fifth cousins, through Queen Victoria.
Prince Christian and Princess Ingrid are fourth cousins, through Frederick VIII of Denmark.
Prince Christian and Princess Amalia are fourth cousins once removed, through Frederick Francis II, Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.
Prince Christian and Princess Elisabeth are fourth cousins, through Frederick VIII of Denmark.
Princess Ingrid and Princess Amalia are fifth cousins once removed, through William, Duke of Nassau.
Princess Ingrid and Princess Elisabeth are third cousins, through Prince Carl, Duke of Västergötland.
Princess Amalia and Princess Elisabeth are 5th cousins once removed, through William, Duke of Nassau.
The program also outputs the full lines of ancestry, here is the full output for Amalia and Elisabeth:
The most recent common ancestor is William, Duke of Nassau. He is Catharina-Amalia, Princess of Orange's 5th great-grandfather through Princess Helena of Nassau, Emma of Waldeck and Pyrmont, Wilhelmina of the Netherlands, Juliana of the Netherlands, Beatrix of the Netherlands and Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands. He is Princess Elisabeth of Belgium's 4th great-grandfather through Sophia of Nassau, Prince Carl, Duke of Västergötland, Astrid of Sweden, Albert II of Belgium and Philippe of Belgium. Catharina-Amalia, Princess of Orange is Princess Elisabeth of Belgium's 5th cousin once removed. Princess Elisabeth of Belgium is Catharina-Amalia, Princess of Orange's 5th cousin once removed.
Ever wondered how Charles and Diana were related? They are at least eleventh cousins:
The most recent common ancestor is James VI and I. He is Charles, Prince of Wales' 10th great-grandfather through Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia, Sophia of Hanover, George I of Great Britain, George II of Great Britain, Princess Mary of Great Britain, Prince Charles of Hesse-Kassel, Princess Louise Caroline of Hesse-Kassel, Christian IX of Denmark, George I of Greece, Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. He is Diana, Princess of Wales' 10th great-grandfather through Charles I of England, Charles II of England, Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond, Charles Lennox, 2nd Duke of Richmond, Lord George Lennox, Charles Lennox, 4th Duke of Richmond, Charles Gordon-Lennox, 5th Duke of Richmond, Cecilia Catherine Gordon-Lennox, Rosalind Hamilton, Duchess of Abercorn, Cynthia Spencer, Countess Spencer and John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer. Charles, Prince of Wales is Diana, Princess of Wales' 11th cousin. Diana, Princess of Wales is Charles, Prince of Wales' 11th cousin.
Clearly it is impossible to know if there are closer ancestors, as not all of them are known, but this is certainly a lower bound.
If there is some interest, I can surely publish the program as a web page.
Everyone's related.
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Must be because of his German ancestors. Oh, wait... they all have German ancestors.
And French ! Yay (I suppose?) !
edit : Not sure about Norway
Norway is same house as Denmark (Oldenburg)
Does this mean we could eventually have another personal union between Denmark and Norway?
Only if it's called Norway-Denmark this time.
Swedish house is from base entierly french.
TIL the current Swedish royal house descend from a french orphan who lost his father when 17
The main street in Oslo that leads all the way up to the palace is named after him. He fought under Napoleon, but joined the opposition and was key in defeating Napoleon and recieved Norway as a prize. At least that's what I was taught in school
His grandfather was French.
I still don't know why people seem to assume that all Danes are blondes, they've clearly never been to Denmark then. It's not like it's some novelty having brown hair in Denmark. Black hair is a clear sign that your family is from somewhere else but you see people with brown hair all the time.
We do indeed have way more blonde people than most other countries but that's more a matter of blondes being pretty fucking rare globally than it is about everyone here being a blonde.
And since the royal family is from Germany (like yours) I don't really think it says all that much about the Danish people as a group. :P
I have very black hair and i'm all danish ancestry - atleast back to the 1700s
If you visit Oslo you'll find people from all over the world, but it's also exceptionally diverse for Norway. Naturally, most Norwegians are white, but then I moved to a rural municipality. The contrast was huge! I was surprised how uncommon it was to see even slightly dark hair. The people in general look archetypal Scandinavian. The elementary school class photos are a sea of all white, blond/e children. It made me realize how different the entire country must have looked in the past. It's the only place I've ever been taken for a foreigner in my own country. I'm white with dark blonde hair.
> The elementary school class photos are a sea of all white, blond/e children.
You will see the same if you to a rural part of the Netherlands or in neighboring Germany who hasnt been impacted much by immigration. It needs to be saidd though that the hair of darkens when people get older.
That's bullshit. Brown hair has been very common for ages here. There's no village where there's only blond people.
It's a well known fact Scandinavia is the epicenter of blond hair.
Estelle is fairly dark aswell and both her parents are dark haired. I think it's fair to assume she will have darker hair as she gets older.
Ingrid has brown hair though. It looks blonde because of the light.
You forgot Prince Lennu, 7
Now that's a monarch I can support wholeheartedly.
Although he's likely going to be outlived by his younger brother, Aaro (a human, less than a year old currently I think). Plus Sauli has two older sons too, with kids of their own iirc. I'm not sure how they figure into the dynasty. ;)
I don't like foreign sovereigns. Clearly a (French?) bulldog is not suited to the post of king of Finland. That post should be reserved to the Finnish Lapphund. It's the True Finn :P
Bulldogs should just be bred out of existence. It's selfish and inhumane to keep breeding a breed with so many congenital health issues.
don't forget pugs as well
Bulldogs should just be bred out of existence.
By the look of them, that's what people are trying to do.
Oh, aren’t they gorgeous!
Omg he is so cute
Let's make them all play together a lot so that none of them hate each other in 30 years. Oh no, wait that didn't work with George, Wilhelm and Nicolas either...
TIL that France elects one of the Co-Princes of Andorra.
Not a Monarch though, at best a Diarch.
Christian loking like the kinder kid
the kid kid?
haven't seen this boy in years
Same but I'll never forget
Which is not an actual person btw. They literally stitched face parts together in Photoshop to create "him"
Is that true ? That's creepy
you should have seen it before they had photoshop.
"in Photoshop"
Real talk, who can inhale the most cocaine and make it out alive: Ozzy Osbourne or Keith Richards?
I mean, that's not fair. Keith Richards is already an embalmed lich, there's no way Ozzy could compete.
Formal contention of the crown should involve eating live bats.
They say now we're leaving the EU Britain has less options but it's good to know we could totally secure an alliance the old fashion way
We're securing an alliance with the USA.
Harry and Meghan's baby will be eligible for natural born American citizenship, making them eligible to run for President.
Well I guess we are excluded from the party...
Can't bitch when you whacked yours head off , n'est ce pas ?
She's forever young!
Well , Louis XX and his children are ready to climb back on the throne of France whenever we are
Louis Alphonse de Bourbon
Seriously, the same people you used to chop the head off ?
He's the spanish branch I think. In theory after the treaty of Utrecht he cannot claim the french throne.
That's why the orleanists (the branch of Louis-Philippe d'Orléans) are claiming that he's a fraud.
And then you have the descendants of Bonaparte.
Restoring the monarchy and putting Napoleon's descendant on it. You know you want to.
They've done it before though...
Twice.
Chopping Louis XVI's head didn't prevent brotha Big Louis XVIII and Bad Guy Carlos X from being kings.
Carlos X
haha that sounds so wrong, why don't you call him Charles X like everyone else
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If you want some more emperors, the heirs of Wilhelm are still going strong. Their Wikipedia entry is hilarious by the way, apparently Germany is ruled by them since 2006...
Edit: They must have changed it since I last checked, good.
Also, they shouldn't have gotten rid of the beards, how are you supposed to spot them?
Well, our Euro coins will look nicer with Elisabeth on them than with the face of our current king. Yeah, that's the only change in our life that it would bring.
I'd personally like something else entirely on ours. I'm not anti-royalist but those generic side portraits are so boring.
Let it be a windmill or Deltawerk for all I care, just something more unique.
>Finds the coins too boring
>Suggests putting a windmill on there instead
Screeches in Republican
REEEEEEEEPUBLICANISM
We'll arrange a polygamous marriage between Christian and Ingrid/Estelle, thus bringing the lost nations of Norway and Sweden back where they belong, under danish rule.
What actually would be the protocol if Christian and Ingrid wanted to get married? Would they be allowed to? Would their firstborn be allowed to become king of both countries?
Would their firstborn be allowed to become king of both countries?
Probably, there is no reason this couldn't happen.
Funnily enough, this cannot happen between the Netherlands and Belgium because the Belgian constitution forbids members of the house of Orange-Nassau to hold any office.
We'll just hold a referendum on a new Belgian constitution and apply some Hollandse rekenkunde during the vote.
German physics, Dutch maths, is there anything Europe can't do?
AFAIK there would be no constitutional issue with a personal union. Since the monarchy is an almost entirely symbolical institution in both countries the only real change would be that we might make fun of each other less and team up against Sweden more often.
Edit: Slightly trickier than I thought. The reigning monarch can't live outside of Norway and needs parlimentary approval (2/3rds majority) to be crowned in another country.
Good question. Our current king in Norway married a women of the people when it still was custom to arrange marriages to a certain degree. And his son (Ingrid father) as well just married who ever he wanted. Arranged marriages is a thing in the past for Scandinavian monarchs luckily
Swedish law of succession states that anyone who inherits the throne can't be a regent in a different country and loses all claim to the throne unless approved by the Riksdag (parliament)
Jag glömmer aldrig Stockholms blodbad 😤😤
Good. We did you a favour.
Yeah, you dont kill all your guests to be forgotten you kill all your guests to be remembered!!1
Yeah I am not sure about having a king called Christian again.
Gotta marry one of them
Of course it's an austrian
AEIOU
Are you the last Habsburg?
Where's Charles?
I think only kids are on that list.
It's clearly only a list of children. Crown Prince Frederik will be our king before his son (Christian) as well.
Most of these are not direct heirs, Spain, the Netherlands and Belgium are but that is mostly because they are 1 generation ahead due to previous king/queen abdicating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heirs_apparent
Yep. In the UK, you have Charles and William first, in Denmark Frederik, Norway Haakon, Sweden Victoria. Elisabeth and Amalia in Belgium & The Netherlands are the direct heirs apparent, though. Leonor of Spain is the heir presumptive, but technically if the king had a son now, that son would take precedence over her.
Basically the UK is a step behind due Liz not only not abdicating but also being freaking 92 years old and still kicking, and the 3 you mentioned are a step ahead due to abdications.
As If Liz is gonna let Charles be king.
So who is gonna bang who, place your bets here
FBI OPEN UP
George + Christian, you heard it here first
Denmark
Christian
monkaS
Interesting that the genders are the inverse of the current rulers.
Sweden, Spain, Norway, Netherlands and Belgium currently have kings. The UK and Denmark currently have Queens.
You forgot Luxembourg you knobhead.
well, the title says kings and queens of europe, and Luxembourg is merely a grand duchy, so it's perfectly coherent.
If you don't like it, you can still self promote yourself to the rank of kingdom. After all, who's going to contest it? The Holy Roman Emperor? /s
If you don't like it, you can still self promote yourself to the rank of kingdom.
Getting Luxembourg to 300 development with Ewiger Landfriede passed by the EU is gonna take a lot of modifier stacking.
Don't forget to Revoke Privilegia once you get enough support in Imperial Diet. I mean EU parliament.
That is a good point. Time for the Netherlands to become an empire.
Again*
What do you mean "again?" The Dutch Empire is forever.
Thanks Nieuw Holland, we love you too!
And Monaco
And Lichtenstein
And my axe.
SGUDA ALTID NOGET AT DET IKKE ER PRINS NIKOLAI!!!!!!!!!!!
before reading the title, I thought it is a new cast for 'charlie and chocolate factory 2' movie...
No, the real queen of Sweden will be Queen Saga
For those wondering:
-Monaco: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques,_Hereditary_Prince_of_Monaco Jacques, 3
-Luxemboug: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume,_Hereditary_Grand_Duke_of_Luxembourg Guillaume, 36, married but childless
-Liechtenstein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois,_Hereditary_Prince_of_Liechtenstein Alois, 50, and his son https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Joseph_Wenzel_of_Liechtenstein Joseph Wenzel, 23
Edit: fuck the new formatting
Germany, we need to bring back the Hohenzollerns.
Long live the monarchy!