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Hi All,

Please can I have some first time posting help! Have had a search and cant seem to see any answers to my problem.

I have just bought a Technika STBHDH2010 Freeview HD box for the bargain price of £30 Technika STBHDH2010 Freeview HD Set Top Box - Tesco.Direct

Only problem is when it starts up rather than going to first time install screen as per the user guide it just says 'no signal'.

I have tried to manually run the channel search but it asks for a pin code which I have not set. Also it only lets you enter 3 out of the 4 digits! I rang the helpline and they said they would not have a default code so it may be the usual all the zero's etc which has not worked (even when entering just 3!).

Any ideas much appreciated otherwise I think its going to be a return job.

Cheers
 
Hi and welcome to AVF.
Just to be sure - does the aerial connection that you're using for the new receiver work normally when connected instead direct to the TV?
 
Thanks logiciel, I unplugged the aerial from the existing HDD receiver that works fine so presume hopefully this is not the cause of the issue.
 
This box appears to be the same as the Alba (Argos own brand) that earned a "don't buy" from Which? when they tested it. It also appears to be the Harvard (hence the H)also marketed as a Grundig or Goodmans. All the customer review sites for these boxes note startup problems.

I suggest you return it to Tesco and get the STBHDV2010 (Note the V) which is a Vestel T8300 clone and which is being cleared in their shops (mainly the Extra ones - my local at Surrey Quays London has them) at the same price of £30

PS, I suspect your problem is that these clearance models are likely to be customer returns (hence loads of the H model for them to put on the web site but only a few V models in the shops). The original buyer has probably tuned it to their local transmitter already and changed the access code. I have the "IS" model - the second model they introduced between the V and H - and their customer service section were completely unaware of it until I told them about it and alerted them to the bugs in its original software (now fixed).
 
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hi i had the same only 3 digets held down no 2 buttonwhen pin asked for this worked as pin and fixed mine so far so good
 
I've just bought one of these from Tesco at the reduced price of £30. It does what it says on the tin, so to speak, and I'm glad it comes with an HDMI cable, but does anyone know if it contains an RF modulator and I just haven't spotted it, please?
 
Dom Robinson said:
I've just bought one of these from Tesco at the reduced price of £30. It does what it says on the tin, so to speak, and I'm glad it comes with an HDMI cable, but does anyone know if it contains an RF modulator and I just haven't spotted it, please?
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No Freeview HD boxes I know of have RF modulation as this is fairly redundant when you need HDMI for high definition and all have at least one SCART socket. Most, if not all will have RF pass through so you can daisy chain it to another box or TV that need the signal from the antenna.
 
lbear said:
No Freeview HD boxes I know of have RF modulation as this is fairly redundant when you need HDMI for high definition and all have at least one SCART socket. Most, if not all will have RF pass through so you can daisy chain it to another box or TV that need the signal from the antenna.
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Thanks for your reply. The SD Freeview box which used to sit there would include the RF signal from that box to a second TV in the same room which is as old as the hills and has RF-only. It's a 26" 4:3 Ferguson. It has its idiosyncracies but mostly works. However, it's probably time to chuck it out. I bought a 22" Technika TV for the kitchen a while back and it does okay for an occasional TV.

To be honest, the only time I switch it on is for when the snooker's on so it can play second fiddle to whatever else I'm watching on the main TV.
 
If your old Freeview box is still working, you could of course 'daisy chain' the aerial signal to it and dedicate it to your other TV.

Alternatively, does your TV have 'picture in picture'? If so you can either use the inbuilt tuner or your old Freeview box SCART in as one source and the HDMI input from your Freeview HD box as the main.
 
Does the H model has timer settings for recording only I've bought the V version and it doesn't and I only wanted it as a back up to record from?
 
i bought the STBHDV2010 model yesterday from Tesco
reading through the above posts ,
there are three models for this tchnika box all at 30
STBHDV2010 ,
STBHDH2010,
STBHDIS2010
my questions is which one out of the above 3 will have iplayer or updates in the future through the Ethernet
 
boxer29 said:
i bought the STBHDV2010 model yesterday from Tesco
reading through the above posts ,
there are three models for this tchnika box all at 30
STBHDV2010 ,
STBHDH2010,
STBHDIS2010
my questions is which one out of the above 3 will have iplayer or updates in the future through the Ethernet
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Is the IS now down to £30 as last time I checked, it was £70 in store and on their site?


OK - the basic answer is "nobody knows". The Freeview HD specs included IPTV capabilities and all of them have the ethernet connection to wire up to your router. On Freesat, a special "Red Button" MHEG5 instruction is broadcast and the software has been updated in (most) boxes to process the video files as they are received.

The BBC seemed to have gone very quiet on whether they are porting the same to Freeview HD and the much delayed YouView seems to be their new baby.

I note that the Grundig boxes are marketed as getting BBC iPlayer though I am not sure if this is in anticipation of a general BBC service or they have their own app like the Humax portal. Assuming the "H" from Tesco is a Harvard box, that becomes a good candidate.

The V from Vestel was marketed under 13 names so I suppose that stands a good chance of having the software updated if necessary.

Not sure on the IS but, unusually, it updates from a special Tesco OTA data service, not the DTG one. This is also used for ads, games, news and other "teletext" like info under the "Channel Zero" name.
 
so you are saying to stick with the V Vestel one ,,
is it better to have the freesat box then the freeview box ,,i have got sky dish which i can use as my hd sub has expired will be using it for the other room though ,cause have got sky hd box still downstairs with the main tele ,,,
do you know how to check the signal strength of this box
thanks
 
This is definitely a customer return as it has already been tuned in but not your transmitter and the PIN has been set. Was it sold to you as a customer return? If not Tesco are breaking the law. Get on to Trading Standards straight away.
 
boxer29 said:
so you are saying to stick with the V Vestel one ,,
is it better to have the freesat box then the freeview box ,,i have got sky dish which i can use as my hd sub has expired will be using it for the other room though ,cause have got sky hd box still downstairs with the main tele ,,,
do you know how to check the signal strength of this box
thanks
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If you can get an IS for £30 (WHERE??), get that or the V. My own inclination is to avoid the H. I got an IS for the bedroom when they first went to £70 and Tesco for got to take down a £20 off e-voucher from their site. ;):devil: Struggled with it at first to find the get rounds for the glitches but they fixed these with a software update.

You can continue to use your Sky box as a receiver and get the "free to view" channels that Sky scramble.
 
Anyone with the H version, the one being sold by Tesco for £30, can you tell me is it possible to delete unwanted (undesirable) channels from the channel list? Not just lock them, but actually delete them altogether?
 
lbear said:
If you can get an IS for £30 (WHERE??), get that or the V. My own inclination is to avoid the H. I got an IS for the bedroom when they first went to £70 and Tesco for got to take down a £20 off e-voucher from their site. ;):devil: Struggled with it at first to find the get rounds for the glitches but they fixed these with a software update.

You can continue to use your Sky box as a receiver and get the "free to view" channels that Sky scramble.
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sorry my mistake went to tescos today to see the IS model ,,but it scanned at 70 pounds ,,
on the box of H and IS it had pictures of some interactive things ,,like weather and stuff with the zero button ,,
i went home and checked it up but nothing on my hd box also tried channel zero but nothing on it either ,,
can you confrim that on your IS model you get those things .
im on 2.44 sw versoin
 
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boxer29 said:
sorry my mistake went to tescos today to see the IS model ,,but it scanned at 70 pounds ,,
on the box of H and IS it had pictures of some interactive things ,,like weather and stuff with the zero button ,,
i went home and checked it up but nothing on my hd box also tried channel zero but nothing on it either ,,
can you confrim that on your IS model you get those things .
im on 2.44 sw versoin
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The data service is only on the IS as far as I know. The information - and any software updates - are broadcast on Channel Zero and decoded by the appropriate boxes. To access it from the IS, you have to do an initial scan separate from the main tuning scan, which is activated when you press the special key on the remote.

After it has scanned and tuned, you leave it in standby overnight to receive the data burst. On the IS, the standby LED changes colour from red to orange once this in the memory. As far as I am aware, the V model uses the standard Vestel software updates broadcast by the DTG, which was the source of the list of 12 other "aliases" for the box.
 
lbear said:
The data service is only on the IS as far as I know. The information - and any software updates - are broadcast on Channel Zero and decoded by the appropriate boxes. To access it from the IS, you have to do an initial scan separate from the main tuning scan, which is activated when you press the special key on the remote.

After it has scanned and tuned, you leave it in standby overnight to receive the data burst. On the IS, the standby LED changes colour from red to orange once this in the memory. As far as I am aware, the V model uses the standard Vestel software updates broadcast by the DTG, which was the source of the list of 12 other "aliases" for the box.
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so what would be your first preferences ,to be future safe when hd rolls on the interactive service like i player ,,
would you stick to the IS or the V ,i know the H is a no no by the reviews
im just asking should i return the V and go for the IS is it worth paying the money ??
 
boxer29 said:
so what would be your first preferences ,to be future safe when hd rolls on the interactive service like i player ,,
would you stick to the IS or the V ,i know the H is a no no by the reviews
im just asking should i return the V and go for the IS is it worth paying the money ??
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The Vestel probably has a much larger installed base so I would have thought is more likely to have fuller software support. On the other hand, I am now even more confident that the H model is also marketed as a Goodmans, Grundig and also the Manhattan HDT-700 I think I have seen the Grundig with a flash on the box indicating it can get iPlayer but cannot remember where it was.

Although the Manhattan specs include reference to concealed buttons on the front panel, these are not mentioned in the user guide which, apart from brand differences, is the same as the Goodmans guide. This makes me wonder whether the buttons that are on the Alba, which was tested by Which? and given the bad review, have been omitted on the rest because of cost or because they caused the problems.

You can get a rough comparison of the three from the Ricability site by selecting their reviews of the Alba and any of the Vestel clones
 
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egal said:
Anyone with the H version, the one being sold by Tesco for £30, can you tell me is it possible to delete unwanted (undesirable) channels from the channel list? Not just lock them, but actually delete them altogether?
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I also attempted to delete unwanted channels without success on H version. Due to the holiday, Helpline was unable to refer to techie for an explanation.. Considered the manual entry of channels option but this is a rather labourious process so gave up. Anybody able to advise ?
 
Bastavoe said:
I also attempted to delete unwanted channels without success on H version. Due to the holiday, Helpline was unable to refer to techie for an explanation.. Considered the manual entry of channels option but this is a rather labourious process so gave up. Anybody able to advise ?
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Reading the Grundig and Manhattan manuals, there seems to be a discrepancy. On page 13 under "Channel List", it alludes to being able to delete channels. One illustraton of the Channel List page shows a row of reminders for Fav to add or delete favorites and the green button to lock. Another illustration shows the red button with "Disable" by it. Either that part of the software has been deleted or they have removed it from the display.

So try going to the channel you want to delete using the Channel List page and press the red button. I presume you will either be asked for the parental code or to confirm.

If that does not work, there is an option on the settings menu to enable parental preferences, see if setting that to on activates the deletion.

PS The IS model is now £30 on their web site and this does allow you to delete. Also the Channel Zero web page claims this will "soon" be able to access their interactive services including iPlayer
 
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Having a Sony idtv (does anyone still use that phrase? Shorter than 'built-in Freeview'...), my main gripe about the STBHDIS2010 hasn't I think been mentioned.

That's the inability to re-order the channels. So BBC1 HD can be on button 1, BBC HD on button 8 etc. I find that's more useful than deletions, in terms of clicks saved.


BTW On the DIS box (software 0133 awaiting update), you can access a useful tech info page about the channel you're on.

It tells you which transmitter, frequency, signal strength, signal quality, plus PID numbers.

My Winter Hill SD is 100%, HD quality is c40%!

It isn't in the User Guide, but is accessed by pressing 'Exit' a couple of times. Oddly, at first it only worked when subtitles were set to 'On', but now doesn't seem to need that.
 
woodface7 said:
Having a Sony idtv (does anyone still use that phrase? Shorter than 'built-in Freeview'...), my main gripe about the STBHDIS2010 hasn't I think been mentioned.

That's the inability to re-order the channels. So BBC1 HD can be on button 1, BBC HD on button 8 etc. I find that's more useful than deletions, in terms of clicks saved.


BTW On the DIS box (software 0133 awaiting update), you can access a useful tech info page about the channel you're on.

It tells you which transmitter, frequency, signal strength, signal quality, plus PID numbers.

My Winter Hill SD is 100%, HD quality is c40%!

It isn't in the User Guide, but is accessed by pressing 'Exit' a couple of times. Oddly, at first it only worked when subtitles were set to 'On', but now doesn't seem to need that.
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The latest software build has been put on the Channel Zero support page for download to a USB stick. Looks like Lee at Tesco support has come up trumps.
 

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