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Grouchy was bribed to betray Napoleon at Waterloo

An unpopular opinion that i found throughout internet, was that Grouchy and a few other Napoleon's generals ,were bribed by the Rotchilds capitalists to do whatever they could so Napoleon would lose the battle of Waterloo and lose his throne once and for all.

We talk many times about tactics and errors, but the outside factors are also vital.

Right at next, Rotchilds get the 65% of British factories and put their people inside. Up until today, they control the House of Lords

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And here I thought that anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists were all on Twitter and TikTok. Never have I ever imagined they’d spread their BS propaganda on a Napoleon subreddit 😂

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It's unpopular because it's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory and utter nonsense.

Grouchy attacked the Prussians at Wavre following his orders from Napoleon. He didn't know Blücher was on the way to Wellington at Waterloo.

And even if Napoleon had won Waterloo. He would have the survivors of the Allied army as well as massive Austrian and Russian armies approaching. As well as Spanish, Portuguese, Swedish, Bavarian, Wurttemberg etc forces to contend with.

"anti-Semitic conspiracy theory and utter nonsense"

Keep believing these families never been involved to such things.

You do realize there is a big gulf between “this was an influential and powerful family” and “this family was part of international conspiracy to control world history from the shadows”, right?

You can recognize the influence and power of the Rothschilds without playing into conspiracy theories. Case and point, the Barings and Fuggers and Medici are known to be very powerful non-Jewish banking families that also exerted power and influence across many generations.

Every capitalists and bankers take part in the overthrow and rise of any type of government. Either "democratic" or "dictatorship". Also the Austrian painter was being paid by the Rotschild banks and capitalists.

The term "influencial" is exaclty what i say. They influencing the process of the events by their interventions on anything. They rule the money, so they rule the world.

Whatever you’re reading, stop.

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Why do people like you always need “puppet masters” to lurk and rub their hands together? You do know that a conspiracy usually requires secrecy, right? The wealthy and politically influential have never had to hide anything. It’s all there to see. Not everything economic or political is an off-the-radar scheme in hidden alleyways waiting for you to find out! A conspiracy requires, I don’t know, conspiring! Most forces (whether they be political, economic, etc.) are formed “organically” and over time, not some diabolical secret control plan set in motion on purpose three centuries ago with a blueprint and a guiding shadowy hand.

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u/Future-Studio-9380 avatar

Guess I'm old fashioned but I think you need to prove your accusation for it to be taken seriously

u/Napoleons_Peen avatar

Shocking, there is absolutely zero evidence in either of your assertion and your first link admits it in the second paragraph. Clown shit.

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He literally followed Napoleons order lol, after Ligny Napoleon waited 10 hours and he didnt know exactly where the Prussians went because Napoleon did not have the Calvary scout immediately after the battle. It was Napoleon's fault mostly with some of the blame to Grouchy sure. Certainly not the Jews lol

u/elmartin93 avatar

Fuck off with that Nazi bullshit

u/DifficultSquash533 avatar

Tell me where he talked about Jews?

u/elmartin93 avatar

Rothschild is an anti-Semitic dogwhistle. It's basically a way of saying "Jew" without actually saying "Jew"

u/DifficultSquash533 avatar

By that logic you’re accusing this guy of saying Jews bribed Napoleons Marshals 😂 get the fuck outta here

u/elmartin93 avatar

That's exactly what he's saying

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Oh, for expletive sake. No one in their right mind believes any of that conspiracy anti-semitic crap.

Did the Rothschilds also make your crush reject you and delayed your commute so you were late to work? /s

Fuck off with this antisemitic bs

The thing with conspiracy theories such as this is that you can pretty much connect everything if you try hard enough, but it doesn’t make it true.

You can easily say that Marmont turned his back on Napoleon in 1814, or that all the marshals at Fontainebleau recommended Napoleon to abdicate on the basis that they were all bribed for the same reason.

Or that Alexander disobeyed the Continental System…

Or that General Moreau returned from his exile in America to assist the allies because he received a lump sum because of this as well…

Or that General Dumouriez defected to the coalition because he received an offer he couldn’t refuse (and then we can make a few stretchy reasons why Kellermann, Moreau, Jourdan or Napoleon remained faithful to the Republic).

See my point?