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  • ElanorElanor Posts: 13,326
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    Iphigenia wrote: »
    Who's Queen Philippa?

    (Exits to google/wiki)


    I can't find anything anywhere suggesting any of the possible Queen Philippas have been even in any way Asian.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,275
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    Well, mixed race ala Obama. Of course all it would take is an heir to marry a black person and have a mixed race child who could inherit the throne.

    How do you think it would be received by Royalists? Would they have to accept it due to our liberal society but secretly have misgivings about the purity of the bloodlines/traditions? Do you think there is/would be any pressure from within the family itself?

    No one bats an eye lid at mixed race relationships nowadays (thankfully) but I wonder how these attitudes may change if it meant that our Royal family may not continue to be anglo-saxon white.
    Well we already have a mix of German and Greek lined up for the throne so why not.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,225
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    It might have happened eventually but I doubt the Monarchy will be around long enough for that to occur.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,304
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    I seem to have a special relationship with black monarchs. They're always having trouble with their bank accounts. Are bankers racist or sumfink? I'm going to write to my MP
  • IphigeniaIphigenia Posts: 8,109
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    Elanor wrote: »
    I can't find anything anywhere suggesting any of the possible Queen Philippas have been even in any way Asian.

    She's listed in a 100 Great Black Britons site. Daughter of a Belgian Lord and an umentioned mother.

    My English/British history is appalling, I don't know whether there's any link to the current monarchy, or if it's totally German, with a touch of Greek.
  • neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    Elanor wrote: »
    I can't find anything anywhere suggesting any of the possible Queen Philippas have been even in any way Asian.
    Iphigenia wrote: »
    She's listed in a 100 Great Black Britons site. Daughter of a Belgian Lord and an umentioned mother.

    My English/British history is appalling, I don't know whether there's any link to the current monarchy, or if it's totally German, with a touch of Greek.

    I never heard anything about her racial origons at school but it is a facinating notion
  • Bom Diddly WoBom Diddly Wo Posts: 14,094
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    No chance whatsoever. Thats why we have concrete tunnels and Mercedies.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,225
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    Iphigenia wrote: »
    She's listed in a 100 Great Black Britons site. Daughter of a Belgian Lord and an umentioned mother.

    My English/British history is appalling, I don't know whether there's any link to the current monarchy, or if it's totally German, with a touch of Greek.

    I thought her mother was Joan of Valois? If it's the one who married Edward III, that is.
  • MetalManMetalMan Posts: 939
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    No chance whatsoever. Thats why we have concrete tunnels and Mercedies.

    The people who say no chance whatsoever are the same people who said that about a black president 5 years.

    The likelyhood is that people in charge then wont be the same people in charge now. The human race is destined to become biracial and anyone who opposes it is a flat out bigot and a liar.
  • ElanorElanor Posts: 13,326
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    Iphigenia wrote: »
    She's listed in a 100 Great Black Britons site. Daughter of a Belgian Lord and an umentioned mother.
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    Ah, I see! Thanks.

    This one?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippa_of_Hainault

    That says her mother was Joan of Valois, who's brother was the king of France. From what I can see, she seems to be French, with some Spanish blood (Isabella of Aragon was her granny). I can't see anything that says she wasn't Caucasian/European.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,225
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    Elanor wrote: »
    Ah, I see! Thanks.

    This one?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippa_of_Hainault

    That says her mother was Joan of Valois, who's brother was the king of France. From what I can see, she seems to be French, with some Spanish blood (Isabella of Aragon was her granny). I can't see anything that says she wasn't Caucasian/European.

    Even if he did get a black/asian woman pregnant I can't see he and his wife taking in the child to raise as their own. Unless people mean that Joan was of that extraction.
  • jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    Iphigenia wrote: »
    Who's Queen Philippa?

    (Exits to google/wiki)

    I'm impressed you knew who charlotte was - I had to look them both up.

    I can't see any problem with a future queen or consort being black or asian; and at least it would stop the bl**dy in-breeding.
  • jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    Elanor wrote: »
    Ah, I see! Thanks.

    This one?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippa_of_Hainault

    That says her mother was Joan of Valois, who's brother was the king of France. From what I can see, she seems to be French, with some Spanish blood (Isabella of Aragon was her granny). I can't see anything that says she wasn't Caucasian/European.

    You didn't read far enough down. About 140 years earlier, one of her indirect ancestors was asian.
  • culturemancultureman Posts: 11,669
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    Well it's currently more likely than the heir to the throne marrying a Catholic partner.
  • HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    Wiki on Queen Phillipa;
    She was matrilineally descended from Elizabeth the Cuman (born before 1241), a daughter of Kuthen, Khan of the Cumens, thus bringing Central Asian blood into the English royal line.
  • KarlSomethingKarlSomething Posts: 3,529
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    I see it as much more likely that the monarchy ends with Charles or William.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,225
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    Interracial royal relationships were also discussed on this forum.

    http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f161/interracial-royal-couples-5602.html
  • GlowbotGlowbot Posts: 14,847
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    Morgan Freeman would be an excellent king.
  • SkycladSkyclad Posts: 3,946
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    As a staunch royalist I would be more than happy to have a black, or mixed race king/queen.

    Why do you think it would be a problem? Are you assuming all royalists are racists? :(
  • Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    Glowbot wrote: »
    Morgan Freeman would be an excellent king.

    Well he knocked off playing the president without breaking sweat.
    Could see him as grand father to the bride, stentorian tone and all.

    Anyway there was some mention of Sheila Ferguson (Ex 3 Degree's) daughters in connection with the Princes, years and years ago, friends of Diana according to some tabloid I read.
    Probably a load of balls on reflection :)
  • Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    MetalMan wrote: »
    Of course there will be.

    Ethnic minorities are growing in this country and could near a majority sometime this century. It's inevitable stuff like this would happen.

    I shouldn't, but I will.

    Would you like to show your working out here, current figures, your end point and what growth you're expecting.
    Not sure how this 'inevitable' just based on numbers either.
  • TheEricPollardTheEricPollard Posts: 11,582
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    William will live another 50, 60, maybe 70 years, and his first born child would probably be on the throne for maybe 30 or 40 years after him, and seeing as William's about to marry a white woman, his first born child will probably be white too. Assuming no one dies young or doesn't have kids, that's nearly 100 years before there's really any possibility of a mixed-race monarch. And I hope we're not stuck with the monarchy for that long; as much as I love Princess Michael of Kent and that, they are a bit rubbish really aren't they?
  • BakezBakez Posts: 427
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    MetalMan wrote: »
    Of course there will be.

    Ethnic minorities are growing in this country and could near a majority sometime this century. It's inevitable stuff like this would happen.
    Do you ever shut up with your racist shit?
  • AndrewPdAndrewPd Posts: 6,718
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    It is possible.

    But I don't agree with having a monarchy.

    Maybe we should elect a monarch like a president?
  • neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    Bakez wrote: »
    Do you ever shut up with your racist shit?

    What was racist about the post? Or was you comment not related to it?
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